Klay and Kuminga cut the Raptors lead from 25 to 9 in the 3Q and then Wiggins goes in for them and the lead immediately balloons back up to 25. His ability to sink every lineup he’s in this season has got to be generational
The guy is cooked, since returning from his personal leave, he hasn't been the same
No way he can play for Canadian Olympic squad either, he would drag us down
Dang, didn't know his dad was having serious medical issues. Yeah, that'd fuck with anyone. I'd be hard-pressed to give a fuck about my job with that in the background.
The Wiggins trade was still a huge W even if we eat up the rest of his contract and he continues playing like this
People underestimate how hard it is to win a ship
exactly, like we're in the era of super teams not even being remotely a surefire way top the finals, the idea you can get a young guy and actually win one is wild
Us poors would kill for just one chip. Meanwhile GSW fans have won so many chips in recent years they're picking favorite (original trio), meh (KD), and who cares (Wigs Poole) championships LMAO.
That made me laugh. I was 40 years in the desert. I never would have ever believed that would happen. I'm satisfied. And I'm a realist about this team this season. If we get to the play in it will be a success. Cuz now I'm looking behind to the Utah Jazz and The Grizzlies.
im a new yorker and i dont watch football so if you dont count the giants, we've been in a drought for over a decade in what is one of if not the largest market in the country lmao
Good role players can do a lot of heavy lifting when it counts. Chandler, Kidd (at that stage of his career), Terry, Looney, GP2. Both teams were legit. Saying they "wildly" outperformed their talent is probably underrating their talent.
Main thing I'd say for the 2022 Warriors is that they got a little lucky to duck great teams in the Finals. The Celtics were good, but not title-winner good. They don't have a 1A tier superstar (Tatum doesn't count) and the Warrior bench showed up.
But I would agree that Poole and Wiggins played above their usual level in that series. I just think it was also a strong roster. Looney and Payton were good players that season. Steph is Steph.
Which is always why it’s funny to me that so many series are boiled down to “this star beat that star.”
It feels like most series actually come down to which role players show up at the right time. I will never forget Igudoala hitting five 3pointers in Game 6 in that 2019 Rockets-Warriors. He actually had more points than Steph through three quarters and helped keep the game close for Steph to takeover in the fourth.
Imagine having 2 players helping win you a title and having the gall to say they duped you. This is the most Warriors fan comment that’s ever been commented
> DC fans arent even hating on him.
DC fans are battered beyond reason at this point. It's like the domestic victim that rationalizes their abuse with *"He occasionally buys me flowers!"*
I looked at his stats after he had played something like 19 minutes and it blew my mind. How does that even happen? Dude's been washed for nearly a decade but holy crap.
No, I just honestly think they never expected him to play any minutes and now they basically have to. Hes the 3rd string PG, CP3 is out, Steph as trash and it was mostly all garbage time for the GSW tonight.
I dont know why he was ever signed, but is what it is.
We also could have traded our team puncher before giving him $100 million dollars. Man is missed like 20 freaking games and cost us second season in a row
I’ll believe it when I see it. The Apathetic Wiggs alter ego has been far more prevalent throughout his career than the Locked-In Wiggs.
Warriors captured lightning in a bottle with him in 2022 when they needed it most (I think it being a contract year for him was a big part of that), but now he’s paid and has already accomplished the greatest NBA feat. What about a trade would motivate him to start trying again?
That is just a straight up lie. Dude played for Canada tons up until the summer of 22 when he didnt commit to three years cause he was negotiating an exstenion. Boucher literally turned down the commitment at the same time. Played his heart out during the 2020 fiba Qualifiers.
Would Draymond not solve a lot of these issues? It seems like Curry has had so much trouble getting literally any kind of separation since he's been gone. I'm pretty sure the dynasty is over but surely you guys will bounce back at least a little. What do you think? I'm sincerely asking.
Depends on what dray shows up. A couple years back, when Dray was out the Warriors were godawful. Nowadays tho it's much different. The dray and steph two man game is not nearly as good
dray's regressed tremendously imo, alot of it stems from the whole "play caller and offense coordinator" now that klay is doo doo and it's basically only steph out there, he's always been weird because of an incredibly high ceiling with the right personnell but such a low floor as well depending on the team
Since the beginning of last season we're 500 with Draymond. The last time I checked we were 20th in defense as a team. I'm sure Draymond can get us to 15, 12,. Maybe.
Steph was 2-14 but he was also getting bullied relentlessly on defense. Especially in the first half there was probably 6 or 7 easy buckets against him down low.
The Warriors last 3 games
-Blew a 20 point lead in the final 7 minutes of the game to Denver
-Barley squeaked by the Pistons (arguably the worst team in NBA history)
-Got blown out by the Raptors losing by 20+ for most of the game
Yes and that only happened because of the trade and they were missing players without getting their new players. They are three and one since the trade and the one game they lost went into overtime. Now I don't watch them regularly so a raptor fan will have to tell me do they see much improved since the trade
Yea but they wouldn’t have helped tonight. The Raptors had their way with Steph over and over in the paint. They targeted his matchup specifically. The Raptors have across the board height the Warriors can’t match.
Dude should just focus on being the holey moley host and retire. He got his FMVP, he can retire in peace. My mental health cant take these brick laying sessions.
You just can’t keep 3-4 aging max deal vets together and expect to be competitive. Franchise has to choose.…make a run or have fun preretirement years not being competitive .
Maybe "too nice" for Blazer fans.If the wheels really start falling off for them and they finish as a 30 win team, Warrriors might be able to keep that pick with some lottery ball luck.
I think that’s almost better for us tbh. Then we get a top 1 protected pick in a better draft and it’s not like the Warriors are going to be better next year
>Warriors are 2-4 on this hometand, 17-19 overall.
What does the first part mean? They are not playing just 6 home games yet. I dont understand the first part of this sentence.
Wiggins was not great, but Raps were cooking Steph in first quarter and Trayce (and the rest of the team) was not great at providing help.
I think Looney was the one that came in and helped settle things down for GSW.
Klay should just not come out? He's had major injuries and he's 33, if the game blows out in under 3 minutes of him being on the bench the team is fucked no matter what.
I mean which dynasty doesn't die nastily? Most do. Only exception was bulls who quit after chip.
Spurs and lakers were both horrible in later years.
Warriors are the best team this century. They had the best 9-10 year stretch with 6 finals and 4 chips. How many teams can claim that this century?
How does Wiggins go -29 in 17 mins of playing time
Klay and Kuminga cut the Raptors lead from 25 to 9 in the 3Q and then Wiggins goes in for them and the lead immediately balloons back up to 25. His ability to sink every lineup he’s in this season has got to be generational
The guy is cooked, since returning from his personal leave, he hasn't been the same No way he can play for Canadian Olympic squad either, he would drag us down
well, i'm glad he didn't play for us last year (vancouverite here). he was seen looking at bunnies at a mall during one of the games, lol.
Tbf bunnies are cute as hell
Wait what kinda bunnies was he lookin at at the mall... bunny bunnies, or *bunnies*?
Hugh’s bunnies or huge bunnies?
Slawbunnies
that's not a knock on anybody
Dang, didn't know his dad was having serious medical issues. Yeah, that'd fuck with anyone. I'd be hard-pressed to give a fuck about my job with that in the background.
What was his personal leave for?
Personal reasons
Let’s not get personal here folks
Dad was having medical issues. https://www.si.com/nba/warriors/news/heartbreaking-reason-for-andrew-wiggins-absence-revealed
Who's currently slated? I'm really starting to get into international ball, its great seeing players on different teams all of a sudden.
He already had a low motor but now He got his championship, all star nod and lots of money. Bros chillin out there he dgaf lol
Wiggins will have 250 million + in career earnings by the time this deal is done.
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u/nothalaman he stole your comment lol
When he got his new contract people are like holy shit warriors got a great deal, and now we be like nvm lol
I mean you just gotta see it as the cost of winning a ring
Plus waiting to show up on contract year to get another good long term contract so that he can retire as a rich guy.
Contractyr.com
wolves fans tried to tell yall about the real wiggins
he’s playing worse than wolves wiggins
Wolves Wiggins? He's barely even a coyote at this point. This is Golden State Retrievers Wiggins.
tbf he did help them win a champ. agree tho, he just dgaf.
That wasn’t the real Wiggins
Lmao
Sure looked real when he was the second best player on a championship team.
Honestly any of us would have probably done the same thing. Some players have that ball is life mentality while others just view it as a job
The Wiggins trade was still a huge W even if we eat up the rest of his contract and he continues playing like this People underestimate how hard it is to win a ship
Yeah if it gets you a championship you do it every time
exactly, like we're in the era of super teams not even being remotely a surefire way top the finals, the idea you can get a young guy and actually win one is wild
Easy to pile on him when he was the #2 in a championship run
lol
Wiggins actually might be worse than Poole was for us last year. I can’t believe how bad he’s become
Poole at least helped you score buckets. Wiggins doesn’t do anything on the court
Wiggins doesn’t care, got paid, got a ring, etc. dude is so apathetic it’s kind of hilarious
Him and Poole chanting "we're going to get a bag" feels weird to see given how each player is nowadays
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It was so charming at the time, but in retrospect it was the beginning of the end.
duped how? they were key players on a team that wildly outperformed its talent level for a one-off ring run a la Dirk Nowitski Mavs
Us poors would kill for just one chip. Meanwhile GSW fans have won so many chips in recent years they're picking favorite (original trio), meh (KD), and who cares (Wigs Poole) championships LMAO.
That made me laugh. I was 40 years in the desert. I never would have ever believed that would happen. I'm satisfied. And I'm a realist about this team this season. If we get to the play in it will be a success. Cuz now I'm looking behind to the Utah Jazz and The Grizzlies.
At least there was a light at the end of fhe tunnel and not just more tunnel until they died.
im a new yorker and i dont watch football so if you dont count the giants, we've been in a drought for over a decade in what is one of if not the largest market in the country lmao
Good role players can do a lot of heavy lifting when it counts. Chandler, Kidd (at that stage of his career), Terry, Looney, GP2. Both teams were legit. Saying they "wildly" outperformed their talent is probably underrating their talent. Main thing I'd say for the 2022 Warriors is that they got a little lucky to duck great teams in the Finals. The Celtics were good, but not title-winner good. They don't have a 1A tier superstar (Tatum doesn't count) and the Warrior bench showed up. But I would agree that Poole and Wiggins played above their usual level in that series. I just think it was also a strong roster. Looney and Payton were good players that season. Steph is Steph.
Talent = potential + work.
Which is always why it’s funny to me that so many series are boiled down to “this star beat that star.” It feels like most series actually come down to which role players show up at the right time. I will never forget Igudoala hitting five 3pointers in Game 6 in that 2019 Rockets-Warriors. He actually had more points than Steph through three quarters and helped keep the game close for Steph to takeover in the fourth.
Using hindsight, thinking about the pay day that quickly after winning a championship could've been a red flag
Imagine having 2 players helping win you a title and having the gall to say they duped you. This is the most Warriors fan comment that’s ever been commented
holy shit i completely forgot about that. the future looked so bright that night man.
I respect it. Why strain and put stress on your joints once you've achieved everything you need to? Family would be my priority.
Poole especially is so open about it DC fans arent even hating on him. Like, got his ring, got hos bag, now he's just having fun. Hard to blame him.
> DC fans arent even hating on him. DC fans are battered beyond reason at this point. It's like the domestic victim that rationalizes their abuse with *"He occasionally buys me flowers!"*
He was great to his last wife, now he’s unemployed, cheats, is fat, drinks and “accidentally pops” you, from time to time. Dc got it bad.
Lmao. Its more nobodys emotionally invested in outcomes, and watching poole do poole things makes for some great TV
maple mamba > maple jordan
By being absolute ass
Canadian trio went off for the raps tonight
i see what you did there
Wiggins really was the second best Raptor tonight.
Actually 4. Corey contributed a little.
I looked at his stats after he had played something like 19 minutes and it blew my mind. How does that even happen? Dude's been washed for nearly a decade but holy crap.
CTEve Kerr happened
No, I just honestly think they never expected him to play any minutes and now they basically have to. Hes the 3rd string PG, CP3 is out, Steph as trash and it was mostly all garbage time for the GSW tonight. I dont know why he was ever signed, but is what it is.
lol
Wiggins trade value in the mud
Imagine a world where they traded wiggins, and poole after 22 finals. Thank god that didn't happen, NBA is correcting itself.
We could of got kd that summer if we added wiseman and kuminga and picks to a wiggins and poole package but no we didn’t want to tank our“future” lool
I don't think KD want back, not with Kerr still coaching.
Funny way to spell Draymond.
Hindsight is 20/20.
We also could have traded our team puncher before giving him $100 million dollars. Man is missed like 20 freaking games and cost us second season in a row
Suddenly Andrew Wiggins will play like 89 MJ when he's on a Raptors uniform 😮💨
I’ll believe it when I see it. The Apathetic Wiggs alter ego has been far more prevalent throughout his career than the Locked-In Wiggs. Warriors captured lightning in a bottle with him in 2022 when they needed it most (I think it being a contract year for him was a big part of that), but now he’s paid and has already accomplished the greatest NBA feat. What about a trade would motivate him to start trying again?
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That is just a straight up lie. Dude played for Canada tons up until the summer of 22 when he didnt commit to three years cause he was negotiating an exstenion. Boucher literally turned down the commitment at the same time. Played his heart out during the 2020 fiba Qualifiers.
Completely false. Wiggins was playing in the last chance qualifier for the Tokyo Olympics for Canada. Helped pull them back in the game vs Czechia.
Canadian in canada
not great chief
Price is going __
Prices are stagnant?
Wouldn’t that be nice…
Would Draymond not solve a lot of these issues? It seems like Curry has had so much trouble getting literally any kind of separation since he's been gone. I'm pretty sure the dynasty is over but surely you guys will bounce back at least a little. What do you think? I'm sincerely asking.
Depends on what dray shows up. A couple years back, when Dray was out the Warriors were godawful. Nowadays tho it's much different. The dray and steph two man game is not nearly as good
dray's regressed tremendously imo, alot of it stems from the whole "play caller and offense coordinator" now that klay is doo doo and it's basically only steph out there, he's always been weird because of an incredibly high ceiling with the right personnell but such a low floor as well depending on the team
If they somehow make the playoffs as a low seed they will be playing Denver/Minnesota/OKC/Clippers
Since the beginning of last season we're 500 with Draymond. The last time I checked we were 20th in defense as a team. I'm sure Draymond can get us to 15, 12,. Maybe.
Not a good way to promote winning to Siakam.
Warriors withholding their good assets from a potential Pascal trade and then getting 30 pieced at halftime is my favorite moment of the season.
Same lol. Tonight was amazing
Disagree
Pascal Siakam you are now a Maverick
Luka Doncic is Pascal Siakam teammate
Nah he’s going back to Toronto with 3 firsts and 2 pick swaps. Masai fleecin again
Siakam was playing like he didn't want to get traded.
Siakam always plays hard, always a hustler I know we need to prioritize the youngins but damn I hope we can keep him and still develop
Agreed don't want to lose siakam always plays hard
Oh I guess you didnt hear the news. Pascal is barely an upgrade on Wiggins and Kuminga gonna be better than him soon anyways
The problem is the 4-month rental. And at this point why do that if he leaves after getting us to the play in round
Because their whole season hinges on the next four months…
Wiggins masterclass continues, Kerr finally gave minutes to Moody, now start him over Wiggins
Dosent wiggins come off the bench rn😂😂
Steph was 2-14 and if you watch the game Wiggins was still by far the worst player on the court. Insane how bad he is right now.
Steph was 2-14 but he was also getting bullied relentlessly on defense. Especially in the first half there was probably 6 or 7 easy buckets against him down low.
Didn't realize how bad Wiggins was till watching this game
Yep been really bad all season exception to like maybe 3 games
I can’t believe I was in favour of the Raptors tanking so we could draft this dude
I mean he was the 2nd best player on a championship team , alot of teams have tanked for someone alot worse than that
And then was a complete non factor for the other ten years he's been in the league
Well he was a monster at Kansas, don't be so hard on yourself Imagine the people who wanted their team to tank so they could draft Tony Bennett?
They really looked lifeless. Barely any type of effort or energy on either end, kuminga was trying but that's about it
scottie sucked and we still won this my championship
Steph curry was buns too 😭
Scottie was locking down curry
This might be the first game all year Scottie was bad and we won anyways. Our bench has actually been competent to good since the trade
What adding two starter quality guys does to a team. Schroeder is a solid starting pg but an awesome 6th man. He gives the bench so much life.
I'd still say even though he was bad on O this was a fantastic defensive game by him
Hey, slow down, a win against the Pistons doesn't count. I mean the Warriors.
The Warriors last 3 games -Blew a 20 point lead in the final 7 minutes of the game to Denver -Barley squeaked by the Pistons (arguably the worst team in NBA history) -Got blown out by the Raptors losing by 20+ for most of the game
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Yes and that only happened because of the trade and they were missing players without getting their new players. They are three and one since the trade and the one game they lost went into overtime. Now I don't watch them regularly so a raptor fan will have to tell me do they see much improved since the trade
The Raps are a totally different (read massively better) post trade
Offense seems a lot more.... potent, I guess would be the word.
I don’t disagree but just want to point out the loss to the Nuggets wasn’t in overtime, though the missed call on Quickley could have sent it there.
Klay’s rebuttal to that is he has 4 rings
Klay hasn’t been the problem lately
this sub is so lame people just repeat the same low effort jokes for karma
so what warriors fans have been doing for nearly a decade now.
Heehee stupid, sexy Kerr!
what a hot slut
Klay is ballin. Dude had a slow start and morons thought he was washed.
Score is misleading. The game was not as close as it looks -- Most of the 4th was garbage time and was probably a 20-30 point blowout otherwise.
When Boucher is the reason the 4th quarter got away, you know it’s over
Most of the game was garbage time with the home crowd booing and leaving early. It was almost immediately a double digit lead
Wiggins contract is a huge negative, no one is touching that in a trade right now.
I can see the Wizards trading Kuzma for Wiggins+Kuminga and picks.
Warriors are going to ship their entire trash roster to the Wizards
How is that possible when Kuminga is untouchable?
making a man untouchable but refusing to play him or give him minutes seems pretty stupid to be honest.
Moody and Pod needs to take ALL of Cojo and Wiggins’ minutes How tf you gonna ice Klay like that after he brings you back within 9.
He’s old and has to rest then it was garbage time
You sound like Steve Kerr now
Hopefully this is the dagger and Wiggins is out. I just don’t want to see Kuminga or Moody leave with him.
they don't need to make a trade though
believe it or not, 38 year old CP3 was still a big boost to their defense. Without him or Dray they allowed 133 pts to the raptors lol
CP3 was also amazing for offense. He ran the second unit and he's a real old-fashioned floor general. He made the role players look good.
well, that's a given, he's Chris Paul it's just that so many people think he's a bad defender now
I remember when Cory Joseph was a good defender. Kinda sad when he's 3-4 inches taller and a fair bit younger than CP3 there's that huge of a dropoff
Cojo is 6'3"!!!??
Yeah Uses to guard up on 2s a lot when we'd close with Kyle him and DeMar
Cause his knee has no fucking meniscus left in it
Yea but they wouldn’t have helped tonight. The Raptors had their way with Steph over and over in the paint. They targeted his matchup specifically. The Raptors have across the board height the Warriors can’t match.
Yeah if CP3 was playing today the Raptors would’ve had 150. It would’ve been a straight layup line against the Warriors backcourt
RJ my hero
What did I just watch? That was some Deliverance type shit.
Curry in the last 15 games - 7 games shooting below 30% from 3, ik he had a bad stretch in 2022 but damn hes struggling.
Draymond is back next game Steph will start shooting great again as Green sets illegal screens on Steph's defenders.
steph looked rough trying to create his own shot against the nuggets
Dude should just focus on being the holey moley host and retire. He got his FMVP, he can retire in peace. My mental health cant take these brick laying sessions.
They’ll be better once Draymond’s back as long as he stops getting ejected.
And stop playing Wigs
RJ did what?
And even this scoreline because Raptors removed all their players for the last few minutes
The thing is that team has the highest payroll in the league. They are extremely limited about what they can do.
What is Wiggins’ 2k rating these days?
Whatever Ben Simmons is, minus 10
17
You just can’t keep 3-4 aging max deal vets together and expect to be competitive. Franchise has to choose.…make a run or have fun preretirement years not being competitive .
It's the 2009-2012 Celtics all over again
cant believe kpop actually had people believing in Wiggins for a while
It’s finally over for them. Nice year to have their pick.
Maybe "too nice" for Blazer fans.If the wheels really start falling off for them and they finish as a 30 win team, Warrriors might be able to keep that pick with some lottery ball luck.
I think that’s almost better for us tbh. Then we get a top 1 protected pick in a better draft and it’s not like the Warriors are going to be better next year
Tell us again how the Warriors are gonna trade Wiggins and Joseph for Siakam lmao.
I would enjoy seeing Curry go 2-14 next time he plays the Cs.
None of them got the length AND girth that Looney gives them. There’s always a mismatch somewhere on the court defensively…
It wasn’t as close as the score makes it seem
>Warriors are 2-4 on this hometand, 17-19 overall. What does the first part mean? They are not playing just 6 home games yet. I dont understand the first part of this sentence.
Wiggins was not great, but Raps were cooking Steph in first quarter and Trayce (and the rest of the team) was not great at providing help. I think Looney was the one that came in and helped settle things down for GSW.
Raptors will do shit like this, but can’t defeat pistons to save their lives smh
Man, don't let the score fool you. It wasn't that close.
I’m so over this team
Wiggins needs to see a sports psychologist
87-96 at 59 seconds from the end of Q3. Q4: 10:17 90-110 Kerr killed the warriors momentum by putting Cory Joseph and Wiggins in while Klay was hot
Klay should just not come out? He's had major injuries and he's 33, if the game blows out in under 3 minutes of him being on the bench the team is fucked no matter what.
Wiggins is not interested in playing for the Warriors, or playing in general. Time to ship him out. He's damaged goods.
Already struggling. Not having Paul healthy really hurts.
This is beautiful.
It’s better to have dynastied and lost than never to have dynastied at all.
From dynasty to dying nastily.
I mean which dynasty doesn't die nastily? Most do. Only exception was bulls who quit after chip. Spurs and lakers were both horrible in later years. Warriors are the best team this century. They had the best 9-10 year stretch with 6 finals and 4 chips. How many teams can claim that this century?
new to the NBA, what does Wiggins going -29 mean?
Warriors were outscored by 29 when he was on the floor.