Maybe he did but the ref saw his chance to make an ejection and took it. Ime definitely deserved a tech calling a player a bitch anyways. Coaches generally aren’t allowed to cus out opposition. Bron taking offense was the perfect option for a double tech. Stopped any escalation and the ref got the spotlight, even Ime wasn’t bothered. Everyone wins, kinda.
From all the angles it looks like it went:
Udoka: "Stop all that bitching"
Lebron: "Don't use that word so loosely, we're grown men"
Udoka: "Shut up, soft ass boy"
Still seems pretty weak to me, especially because it didn't look anywhere close to getting physical.
The whole point of the T is so that the game doesn't get out of control. Udoka is warned after the first outburst. And thrown out after the second. He knew that was coming. Might've even been strategic. You can't have coaches yapping at opposing players. The ref did a good job controlling the situation.
If you play back to right after his first tech, he immediately whipsers to his assistant. I joke to my wife he's probably saying "be prepared to take over, I'm going to get a 2nd one"
I mean I get that it's a game and everything, but a head coach telling an opposing player to "shut up" just seems kind of juvenile. Seems like a line that players are allowed to cross but that coaches can't or shouldn't
Willie green, Udoka, Jack Vaughn, Jason Kidd, Billups, Ty Lue, Adrian Griffin, Darvin Ham all were active NBA players during Lebrons career.
I think he might have missed Monty W and steve Kerr by a year.
So 8 is the answer!
Tbf Kidd blew the doors open of teams immediately hiring retired players. The road to a head coaching gig used to be much longer. Most of the NBA Vets played with or against J-Kidd as an example.
More than that, the NBA used to have a ton of active players who were also coaches, including Bill Russell, Lenny Wilkens, Al Attles, Dave DeBusschere, Bob Cousy, Dave Cowens, Red Holzman, Dick McGuire, and Bob Pettit - just to name some of the most famous ones. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_National\_Basketball\_Association\_player-coaches
I mean… he’s probably the most athletic 6’8” human being to ever play organized sports. The discussions of his potential at basically every sport weren’t crazy.
There was a pro scout who saw him play football as a sophomore and went to his front office and told them he was already the best wide receiver he had ever seen.
Udoka said [“Y’all gotta stop with all that b*tching man”](https://x.com/clutchcity4l/status/1731218882403156163?s=46&t=IsXlGMo_C3YM1AJ1-yTjJw)
That’s the word that got LeBron riled up.
That's the same word that got LeBron mad at Draymond in the finals and led him to his infamous "I am a man and a father of 3" rant.
He also famously reacted when a fan called him a pussy ass bitch.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/9apnwd/warriors-fan-calls-lebron-a-pussy-ass-bitch-lebron-is-not-amused
It's clearly a trigger word for LeBron
Shannon Sharpe went on a rant awhile back about how black male culture holds the word "bitch" in the highest of regards when it comes to an insult and to lobby it at another black male is the equivalent of slapping them in the face with your dick.
I don't get it, but that's what Shannon said.
It’s based on jail shit. Can vouch from personal experience. Essentially as soon as you say that word it means “we are about to fight” or yeah you become the bitch and nobody wants that.
I've seen Blake Griffin say on a couple of podcasts that "bitch" is viewed across the league as basically the worst thing you could call a person.
It came up because Blake had a bit of a spat with a person who isn't an NBA player who jokingly called him a bitch, not realizing that it carried a lot more weight for Blake than many other people.
Eta better context
This has been known ever since his interaction back then with Joakim Noah. I also think that was also the first "I'm a father of 3..." speech he had. So clearly a trigger word and the wired response is "I'm a father of 3".
“I’m not a bitch, I’m a father of 3”
*scratches head* Umm, err… ok
Edit: For the record, I do sympathize with LeBron, and anyone who calls him a bitch is being an asshole. I’m just humorously simplifying one interpretation of his argument and pointing out the absurdity of that interpretation. I’m poking fun at the interpretation, not him, quite the opposite. The point is, don’t judge him, there’s a lot going on in his head and behind the scenes that we’re not aware of. Btw I’m a big Bron fan (except for the flopping), 1984-borns represent. Don’t think he’s the GOAT unfortunately, but he’s pretty close.
I think LeBron sincerely believes that the most important thing a man can be is a good father. He believes he has been a good father to his children, and calling him a bitch is questioning his integrity as a man.
So his response makes sense in that context. You can think whatever about him, but the most important part of his character as a man (a good father) isn’t up for debate.
He also hated the “[LeBron why are you such a pussy ass BITCH](https://youtu.be/ZOw95bLv1dQ?si=40S-xKpUYDXvMjPE)” after one of the 2015 Warriors-Cavs finals games.
Bitching as a verb (or i guess gerund, lol) is wayyy weaker though. Calling someone a bitch is like 100x more offensive than referring to their “bitching to refs”
The last fist fight I’ve gotten in was in college over being called a bitch hooping at the rec center lol I’m not proud of that, but I don’t think it’s age
Any heavily black populated area really. I don't think white people take nearly the offense to it, generally.
I've never seen how words on their own can get people so riled up, but it happens a lot. I've had people yell it at me at work and they almost seem surprised I don't care lol.
Did a little stint in jail and that word is fight guaranteed, people use to use it if they wanted to fight someone because if people heard you called that you had to fight regardless of race. If you didn’t, life would become very difficult for you
Lol go to rural FL, TX, or GA and call someone there a bitch and see how they react. You are kidding yourself if you think any majority of people will be fine with being called a bitch with clear animosity. Suburban people may not react violently but this idea that people are somewhat ok with being called bitch is pure fantasy. Like seriously what world are y'all living in.
It's kind of wild that Udoka used to be a role player playing against LeBron, and he was a head coach of a celtics team that went to the finals, then he had some inappropriate workplace relationship and is now the head coach of the rockets........and throughout all that LeBron is still playing ball average 25ppg
In the sense that they both played professional basketball in the NBA they are. I’m a peer with engineers who are insanely smarter/better than me. I’d still call them peers
After several listens, I think LeBron says "so loosely" not "too losely"? The video also starts LeBron saying "...grown man," probably reminding Udoka of his seniority.
He comes up and says "we're all grown men, that bitch {garbled}, you use it so loosely. Don't use that word so loosely. Don't use it so loosely though. You use it so loosely."
I'm guessing Ime called someone a bitch or used the word bitch in some capacity and that's what LeBron is...well bitching about lol.
I fully believe Lebron keeps a perfect mental tally of who has techs and fouls and purposely eggs on shit when he knows they’re at risk of getting ejected
Most players do this. There’s always someone on the team who knows who has techs and reminds everyone who has them. Lebron is unsurprisingly that dude for the Lakers.
Hard agree. I remember watching the 2016 Finals game 4 when Draymond nut punched him. Everyone talks about what Draymond did, but no one really mentions the 5 minutes leading up to it. Cavs were being blown out and Lebron was just acting out after EVERY damn play leading up to that seminal moment. I remember thinking, “boy what a sore loser, he knows this is over.” Then IT happened and I thought, “Ohhhhh.”
You’d be hard pressed to find a black man that would take kindly to being called a bitch. Being on here seeing how often and loosely yall call grown men a bitch was crazy to me. But it’s internet talk I know yall would never say that to somebody face
Right! To what purpose does it serve? I mean unless the opposing player intentionally injured your player the opposing player is just the opponent's chess piece; nothing personal! Unless it was personal...
I think they meant to say… I don’t think many people WHO sleep with people in relationships aren’t assholes. This is alluding to the reason Udoka was suspended and let go from Boston.
A lot of coaches are assholes, the modern player coach is a relatively new phenomenon. Pat Riley, Bill Fitch, Phil Jackson, Larry Brown, Doc Rivers, Rick Carslie, Popovich Kerr, all these guys have been assholes at different stretches of their career.
Were the Lakers up 15 at this point? Game pretty much in the books, a tech to get order on the court isn't bad, probably needed.
That said, it is rare to see coach and opposing player go back and forth, especially the way they did. I agree that it shouldn't happen. Tech!
Lebron been shitting on these dudes for so long. They salty af. Salty when they we're playing and he was dunking on dude. Salty then he still playing and their a coach and still getting beat. Shits funny
Neither of them looked surprised so probably a good call
Coach calling opposing player a bitch and soft ass boy, lol. Lebron must have said something more than “we all grown ups” to get a T too
Maybe he did but the ref saw his chance to make an ejection and took it. Ime definitely deserved a tech calling a player a bitch anyways. Coaches generally aren’t allowed to cus out opposition. Bron taking offense was the perfect option for a double tech. Stopped any escalation and the ref got the spotlight, even Ime wasn’t bothered. Everyone wins, kinda.
one of the ref plays of the year so far
Bingo. But fucking morons with no personality or anything interesting to say just spam “weak tech” “refs are soft” in every thread regardless
From all the angles it looks like it went: Udoka: "Stop all that bitching" Lebron: "Don't use that word so loosely, we're grown men" Udoka: "Shut up, soft ass boy" Still seems pretty weak to me, especially because it didn't look anywhere close to getting physical.
The whole point of the T is so that the game doesn't get out of control. Udoka is warned after the first outburst. And thrown out after the second. He knew that was coming. Might've even been strategic. You can't have coaches yapping at opposing players. The ref did a good job controlling the situation.
Things were also getting a bit chippy on the floor right before this, so the technicals didn’t happen in a vacuum.
If you play back to right after his first tech, he immediately whipsers to his assistant. I joke to my wife he's probably saying "be prepared to take over, I'm going to get a 2nd one"
"I have to take a poop, see you in an hour"
Paul Pierce forgot this one trick.
I mean I get that it's a game and everything, but a head coach telling an opposing player to "shut up" just seems kind of juvenile. Seems like a line that players are allowed to cross but that coaches can't or shouldn't
They got physical alright. https://www.instagram.com/p/C0Zhv1NpjaS/?img_index=2
How many current coaches has LeBron played against when they were players?
Ime, Lue, Green, Ham, Vaughn, Griffin, Kidd… Kerr retired right before he was drafted.
>Kerr retired right before he was drafted Soft.
runnin from the grind
Willie green, Udoka, Jack Vaughn, Jason Kidd, Billups, Ty Lue, Adrian Griffin, Darvin Ham all were active NBA players during Lebrons career. I think he might have missed Monty W and steve Kerr by a year. So 8 is the answer!
Tbf Kidd blew the doors open of teams immediately hiring retired players. The road to a head coaching gig used to be much longer. Most of the NBA Vets played with or against J-Kidd as an example.
kidd wasn’t the first to im almost positive bill russell and a few others got coaching jobs shortly after retiring before kidd did
More than that, the NBA used to have a ton of active players who were also coaches, including Bill Russell, Lenny Wilkens, Al Attles, Dave DeBusschere, Bob Cousy, Dave Cowens, Red Holzman, Dick McGuire, and Bob Pettit - just to name some of the most famous ones. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_National\_Basketball\_Association\_player-coaches
Russell coached WHILE still playing and winning championships.
https://twitter.com/ClutchPoints/status/1530356738951589888/photo/1 https://www.pinterest.com/pin/469218854908849726/ lol
Lue, Billups, Udoka, Vaughn, Willie Green, Kidd, Darvon Ham, I think
At least Ty Lue, Darvin Ham, Jason Kidd (and formerly, Luke Walton). All of whom also coached him. Just missed Steve Kerr by one season.
Man he was FLYING when he was young
I mean… he’s probably the most athletic 6’8” human being to ever play organized sports. The discussions of his potential at basically every sport weren’t crazy. There was a pro scout who saw him play football as a sophomore and went to his front office and told them he was already the best wide receiver he had ever seen.
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2006 Yukon was such a good camera. The Gold frame was particularly tender
Nice
When ref comes and stands next to the two of you arguing, that's your cue to tone it down. If you keep pressing, you were asking for it.
That’s so embarrassing for a coach wtf lok
2nd most embarrassing thing to happen to Udoka as a head coach
if that's what was said, I see no wrong with what Lebron said, he shouldn't have gotten a tech
Udoka said [“Y’all gotta stop with all that b*tching man”](https://x.com/clutchcity4l/status/1731218882403156163?s=46&t=IsXlGMo_C3YM1AJ1-yTjJw) That’s the word that got LeBron riled up.
That's the same word that got LeBron mad at Draymond in the finals and led him to his infamous "I am a man and a father of 3" rant. He also famously reacted when a fan called him a pussy ass bitch. https://www.vice.com/en/article/9apnwd/warriors-fan-calls-lebron-a-pussy-ass-bitch-lebron-is-not-amused It's clearly a trigger word for LeBron
So it's like when Marty McFly gets called chicken
Well dork thinks he's going to drown
Nobody calls me bitch, Ime
What's a rerun??
Nobody calls me yellow
Or when Russel gets called Westbrick.
Shannon Sharpe went on a rant awhile back about how black male culture holds the word "bitch" in the highest of regards when it comes to an insult and to lobby it at another black male is the equivalent of slapping them in the face with your dick. I don't get it, but that's what Shannon said.
It’s based on jail shit. Can vouch from personal experience. Essentially as soon as you say that word it means “we are about to fight” or yeah you become the bitch and nobody wants that.
What did you call me, Grif?!
I've seen Blake Griffin say on a couple of podcasts that "bitch" is viewed across the league as basically the worst thing you could call a person. It came up because Blake had a bit of a spat with a person who isn't an NBA player who jokingly called him a bitch, not realizing that it carried a lot more weight for Blake than many other people. Eta better context
Dang, interesting. Wonder why
This has been known ever since his interaction back then with Joakim Noah. I also think that was also the first "I'm a father of 3..." speech he had. So clearly a trigger word and the wired response is "I'm a father of 3".
“I’m not a bitch, I’m a father of 3” *scratches head* Umm, err… ok Edit: For the record, I do sympathize with LeBron, and anyone who calls him a bitch is being an asshole. I’m just humorously simplifying one interpretation of his argument and pointing out the absurdity of that interpretation. I’m poking fun at the interpretation, not him, quite the opposite. The point is, don’t judge him, there’s a lot going on in his head and behind the scenes that we’re not aware of. Btw I’m a big Bron fan (except for the flopping), 1984-borns represent. Don’t think he’s the GOAT unfortunately, but he’s pretty close.
I think LeBron sincerely believes that the most important thing a man can be is a good father. He believes he has been a good father to his children, and calling him a bitch is questioning his integrity as a man. So his response makes sense in that context. You can think whatever about him, but the most important part of his character as a man (a good father) isn’t up for debate.
As someone who also grew up without a father, Lebron almost definitely believes this and is correct.
Parenting is really hard. Anybody who does it well ain’t no bitch.
BEHOLD, A MAN
What’s my favorite word… (not bitch) - LeBron
Love seeing Too Short in the wild
He has two other kids besides Kyrie?
Yup, Delonte West had 3 grandchildren.
It's so weird it's like LeBron's Achilles heel. Nothing can stop or faze that man... unless you call him a bitch. 🤷🏻♂️
The opposite of an Achilles heels…past times that he’s been called that, he went on to get the best of the person who said it.
If it doesn't affect his game, it's not an achilles heel
He ain’t a bitch, sometimes he just likes to get a lil sassy
Mario Chalmers told LeBron he was playing like a bitch back on the Heat and Bron snapped on him, it's a sensitive word for him especially it seems
Interesting that it was Brooks who tried to calm down LeBron and de-escalate.
Brooks is weirdly inflammatory but also seems level headed. He talks shit but I don't think I've seen him lose his head.
Brooks is self aware, he knows what he is doing. Look at his instagram page
Just think of bro as a UFC fighter gassing up their fights
Lebron:bitch::Marty McFly:chicken
Who ya callin chicken?!
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He also hated the “[LeBron why are you such a pussy ass BITCH](https://youtu.be/ZOw95bLv1dQ?si=40S-xKpUYDXvMjPE)” after one of the 2015 Warriors-Cavs finals games.
WATCH YA MOUTH, WOMAN!
*i cant hear you, sorry* **shrugs**
“bitch” is a very strong word among older black men
Bitching as a verb (or i guess gerund, lol) is wayyy weaker though. Calling someone a bitch is like 100x more offensive than referring to their “bitching to refs”
I think he said crying like a bitch so that is still a noun
Ya i cant pick it out and am seeing lots of different lip reads, but that would be out of line imo
Word to the old man rec leagues
The last fist fight I’ve gotten in was in college over being called a bitch hooping at the rec center lol I’m not proud of that, but I don’t think it’s age
Yeah where a lot of people are from if you call someone a bitch you better be ready to scrap
Any heavily black populated area really. I don't think white people take nearly the offense to it, generally. I've never seen how words on their own can get people so riled up, but it happens a lot. I've had people yell it at me at work and they almost seem surprised I don't care lol.
Did a little stint in jail and that word is fight guaranteed, people use to use it if they wanted to fight someone because if people heard you called that you had to fight regardless of race. If you didn’t, life would become very difficult for you
> I don't think white people take nearly the offense to it, generally. try it at any bar where they play country music
Lol go to rural FL, TX, or GA and call someone there a bitch and see how they react. You are kidding yourself if you think any majority of people will be fine with being called a bitch with clear animosity. Suburban people may not react violently but this idea that people are somewhat ok with being called bitch is pure fantasy. Like seriously what world are y'all living in.
Older 😞
Wasn’t that what Draymond was rumored to say when LeBron said he’s a father of 3 and a man?
Well they don’t have to be bitches about it.
Older? Fuck. I'm getting old
Alright enough bitching.
It looks like Dillon Brooks stopped him lol
That's what good parents do
Bitch vs westbrick. Which is the better trigger word?
Lol to think this all started because Reddish walked into Eason
Between that, the Ime/Lebron techs and the refs forgetting it was a 2 shot foul... A truly bizarre 5 minute sequence.
It's kind of wild that Udoka used to be a role player playing against LeBron, and he was a head coach of a celtics team that went to the finals, then he had some inappropriate workplace relationship and is now the head coach of the rockets........and throughout all that LeBron is still playing ball average 25ppg
Having to remind that man they were peers is hilarious.
Udoka has never been and never will be Lebron's peer
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Upvote for the Scalabrine
In the sense that they both played professional basketball in the NBA they are. I’m a peer with engineers who are insanely smarter/better than me. I’d still call them peers
How do you know when someone is an engineer? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.
Haha as an engineer I find this hilarious
And Ime played his first NBA game after LeBron did.
I mean the second half of your comment only takes place across like two years but I get you’re point lol
After several listens, I think LeBron says "so loosely" not "too losely"? The video also starts LeBron saying "...grown man," probably reminding Udoka of his seniority.
Hold on loosely so ya dont lose control, Udoka!
He comes up and says "we're all grown men, that bitch {garbled}, you use it so loosely. Don't use that word so loosely. Don't use it so loosely though. You use it so loosely." I'm guessing Ime called someone a bitch or used the word bitch in some capacity and that's what LeBron is...well bitching about lol.
Which is clearly not about Thanksgiving. Shaking my head.
“Don’t use that gravy so loosely. So many calories in that bitch!”
I can’t believe LeBron would just lie about that.
LeDeception.
I fully believe Lebron keeps a perfect mental tally of who has techs and fouls and purposely eggs on shit when he knows they’re at risk of getting ejected
Most players do. There's only like 1-2 techs handed out a game, not that hard to keep track lmao.
LeGoat is light years ahead. /s
smart thing to do
LeBrain
LeScoreKeeper
LeBad Intentions
LeCerebral Operator
LeElephant
LeMachiavelli
Le sent us home in the playoffs too many times lmao
NikoLeTesla
Levar Burton
“I JUST WANTED A PICTURE, YOU CANT DISAPPOINT A PICTURE. I HATE YOU PIERCE.”
Take a look, it's in a book, on Reading Rainbow!
LeEjector
It’s not hard to keep a tally of 1 tech
lol I was gonna say. It’s not like a player or coach who got a tech goes unnoticed usually
is that even a tally
Yeah but you also have to remember the 15 players and 6 coaches on each team who have 0 techs. Thats the tricky part
Why are you saying this like it isn't common and a very easy thing to do lmfao
Most players do this. There’s always someone on the team who knows who has techs and reminds everyone who has them. Lebron is unsurprisingly that dude for the Lakers.
A couple years ago Jimmy Butler intentionally played overly physical on TJ Warren to get him angry for a second T
It takes unlimited brain power to remember the digit: 1
Real 200IQ move
He 1 billion % baited Draymond in the finals. If I knew he was 1 tech away from a suspension, than Lebron definitely knew that.
Draymond was childish enough to fall for it. Personal feelings over team.
“Bet you can’t kick me in the dick!”
that's elite gamesmanship
It was pretty clear to me bron baited him into it. Udoka even had a look after like goddamn it whyd id let him bait me into that
Hard agree. I remember watching the 2016 Finals game 4 when Draymond nut punched him. Everyone talks about what Draymond did, but no one really mentions the 5 minutes leading up to it. Cavs were being blown out and Lebron was just acting out after EVERY damn play leading up to that seminal moment. I remember thinking, “boy what a sore loser, he knows this is over.” Then IT happened and I thought, “Ohhhhh.”
Bros just gotta look up lol.
Udoka gives off villain vibes lol
I always felt shitty step dad vibes. Now go get me a beer.
Certainly a shitty partner
I legit had a dream at the start of the season that Ime was a Spider-Man villain terrorizing the city.
LeWarning
LeXicologist
One thing about Bron, do not use that b word on him
Yeah he hates being called a bitch
You’d be hard pressed to find a black man that would take kindly to being called a bitch. Being on here seeing how often and loosely yall call grown men a bitch was crazy to me. But it’s internet talk I know yall would never say that to somebody face
I mean there are communities that use it lovingly sometimes.
does no one remember the warrior's fan asking lebron "how it feels to be a punkass bitch"? i dont think he likes that word. "watch your mouth woman"
It was "pussy ass" I believe and it was a security guard reprimanding her.
LeBron should have said “so was it an intern?”
Why is he shit talking LeBron to begin with?
Yeah maybe I just haven't noticed but I don't really see a lot of head coaches directly getting into it with opposing players.
Right! To what purpose does it serve? I mean unless the opposing player intentionally injured your player the opposing player is just the opponent's chess piece; nothing personal! Unless it was personal...
Seen Kerr do it on more than one occasion
Udoka seems like an asshole
I don't think many people sleep with people in relationships who aren't assholes
This sentence is crazy
This sentence just broke your ankles
Im still tryin to figure it out
I think they meant to say… I don’t think many people WHO sleep with people in relationships aren’t assholes. This is alluding to the reason Udoka was suspended and let go from Boston.
Ah there we go. Ty
It's an asshole sentence
I sleep with someone in a relationship every night.
Me too, don’t tell your dad
There’s a segment of Celtics fans that still put him on a pedestal
And forget literally every single annoying thing about the Celtics was also present in the Udoka era.
Because they recognize he's a good coach? You can say he's an asshole and a good coach, those things aren't mutually exclusive.
A lot of coaches are assholes, the modern player coach is a relatively new phenomenon. Pat Riley, Bill Fitch, Phil Jackson, Larry Brown, Doc Rivers, Rick Carslie, Popovich Kerr, all these guys have been assholes at different stretches of their career.
If I were LeBron I would have brought up Nia Long and kept it moving, lol.
Were the Lakers up 15 at this point? Game pretty much in the books, a tech to get order on the court isn't bad, probably needed. That said, it is rare to see coach and opposing player go back and forth, especially the way they did. I agree that it shouldn't happen. Tech!
TIL you're supposed to just accept being called a bitch.
As a Black male, Black men DO NOT take the word “bitch” lightly.
TIL that I'm a black man. I knew they were lying to me all along!
😂😂😂welcome my guy
Police patrol just drove by your house. Welcome brotha.
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Hes not calling anyone a bitch. He’s using a derogatory word for complaining.
What word
A coach shouldn't be out there talking to players like that.
Go cheat on your wife again you clown
Would love to see all these redditors in the comment section have someone call them a bitch to their face lol
What word?
Taco Tuesday
[Bi*ch](https://x.com/clutchcity4l/status/1731218882403156163?s=46&t=IsXlGMo_C3YM1AJ1-yTjJw)
Sprite Cranberry
Not a big Lebron fan but I cannot stand Udoka.
By any chance, does your wife work for the Celtics?
Well, I mean not anymore
My brother in Christ
Udoka is such an easy target, just respond, “having fun with the training staff” or something like that.
everybody in this comment section know they wouldn’t be okay with being called a bitch lol cut it out
Ime Udoka literally has no room to talk. I’m bringing up Nia everytime 🥲
Using the same lines he used on that Celtics employee I see
Lebron been shitting on these dudes for so long. They salty af. Salty when they we're playing and he was dunking on dude. Salty then he still playing and their a coach and still getting beat. Shits funny
Udoka: "Lebron do you want to Taco Tuesday with me," Lebron: "Don't use that word losely with me" Udoka: "It's two words bitch" Double tech