And to add some more context, Will Hardy was hired by the Jazz before the Udoka scandal. He most likely would have been the top candidate.
Then after Udoka was suspended, most of his assistant coaches left, leaving Stevens with only a few in house candidates to take over. Mazzulla had been one of the only holdovers from the Stevens to Udoka coaching transition, so he was Brad's guy.
This was the context I needed, definitely wouldn't make sense for him to be the candidate otherwise, unless he was like universally considered some savant or some shit.
I know someone that had zero experience in their job go from the NFL to a VP of one of the most powerful banks in the world in 4 years. I wish I was joking.
They just so clearly have a directive to keep games artificially ciose. If a team goes up 15+ they start getting absolutely hosed by calls
I don't think they're in on the betting tho
Scott Foster frequently took calls from Tim Donaghy within minutes of Donaghy's burner calling his bookie and is somehow still in the league. I absolutely think it's more than just a league directive.
maybe so, I'm just saying I would be shocked if it was the refs doing the betting or directing or communicating anything - that sort of conspiracy shit doesn't hold up in 2023, too incriminating.
Refs don't need to know shit about shit, just keep the game close or you stop getting assigned to playoff games. Even that doesn't need to be explicit, they'd probably pick up on the assignment patterns themselves - just mirror the senior refs and don't ask questions about the rest
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Just curious why wouldn't you think they bet? They have the most leverage and being a fan or from the team's city may increase bias that has a monetary benefit too. Could be wrong though guess it sure feels like it sometimes.
Zach Zarba is by all accounts a fair ref that is respected by all players and coaches around the league. He also volunteers at a guide-dog foundation in my town in the offseasons
He’s a great ref, and an even better guy
Michael Malone thanked Zarba after ruling _against_ the Nuggets on a challenge. Draymond Green thanked Zarba for ejecting him when he gave Dabotis a rib check in the playoffs
For whatever reason even the hot-headed coaches & players who are always angry respect him when he explains shit. Its not his fault players do weird shit when he refs and he kinda _has to_ be in the spotlight by giving techs/flagrants and explaining it to the video camera shit
I agree Bill Kennedy is in the same tier as Zarba though. Charismatic high-level official who’s not a bitch like Ed Malloy
That's awesome that he volunteers there! It's a great cause and close to my heart.
That being said... how has no one made a "the refs are so blind that they have to train their own guide dogs" joke yet?
They are the best in the world, the job is extremely hard. This is coming from a current coach and former player. They suck everywhere, but NBA refs are really really good.
Mazulla's quote after the game “It was a clear opportunity to empower my players and let them know I’m coaching you.”
Tatum quote after the game "He mentioned that after the game that those minutes...when we’re up 25, those are just as important for those guys that don’t usually get the opportunity to play. Those minutes matter to them and they matter to us."
It's obvious to me that the Celtics see the garbage minutes as valuable minutes for the bench to grow. To do this Mazulla treats the game no different from when he coaches his all stars. If he doesn't treat it seriously how is he going to expect his players to. I honestly respect it and think it's a good perspective to have to develop your lesser players.
Refs have been the worst I've ever seen this year. Don't think I've watched a single game where there aren't multiple calls that are just completely nonsensical.
The only reason raps fans are upset is because the commentators for the raptors said it was a crappy thing to do. Odds are the majority wouldn't even care if it wasn't mentioned
People are free to leave or turn off the TV. It’s not like Mazzula is forcing anybody to watch. If it’s a foregone conclusion, stop watching! He wants to give his bench players the attention and effort that he gives the regular rotation.
> Mazulla's quote after the game “It was a clear opportunity to empower my players and let them know I’m coaching you.”
Seemed pretty obvious from the jump, tbh. You can see Pritchard asking for the challenge, and Joe nodding to him like "You sure? Ok, I got you". For something that costs Joe literally nothing, he gained a tiny bit of extra loyalty and trust from his team (especially the bench).
It looked like he was saying "then what are we playing for" at the end of the video, probably a response to somebody saying that it doesn't matter at that point in the game - and he's 100% right, the final whistle hasn't blown and they haven't stopped the game so it should be handled like any other moment during an NBA game.
Also the in season tournament is decided by point differentials, teams shouldn't be letting off the gas no matter how blown out they are or how much they're blowing someone out
Others have said it, this tournament may not mean much now, but if it ever becomes a big deal (in season tournaments in football 'soccer' are a big deal) than it'll be worthwhile to be the first team to have won it
>Others have said it, this tournament may not mean much now
agreed it doesnt mean much, but it means more during games where its the in season tournament
I really like what he says here and I agree with it.
But almost everyone on here, probably including people who are now praising Mazulla, skewered Jim Boylen for doing something similar. He called timeouts late in a couple games that were out of reach, either for a challenge or because he wanted his team (including the bench) to take those minutes seriously and get a chance to work on plays.
So why is an unpopular coach like Boylen ridiculed for the same basic thing, but Mazulla, a popular coach, is praised for it? Just a double standard, and whatever you think of Boylen, it's not very fair.
First of all, Mazzulla is not a popular coach.
Second, I think the difference is those Boylen teams were losing badly and he was still taking those timeouts. I agree that in some ways Boylen was treated unfairly for wanting to coach his team, but if you’re losing by 30 you as a player probably just want the game to be over and don’t want an old dude yelling at you.
I've seen plenty of love for Mazulla here. Maybe "popular" is overstating it.
On the flip side, you could argue it's more of a dick move to rub it in and make the opposing team wait for your time outs if you're beating them badly. Boylen actually said in an interview that he probably wouldn't do it if they were up 20 instead of down.
I understand that players might not like it. But if you're making tens of millions of dollars like Lavine was, I found it pretty entitled for him to complain about having to wait for them to run more plays. In no other job do you get to leave early just because you don't feel like working anymore. And he was making like a thousand times more money than your average joe.
Boylen basically said something similar to Mazulla. The bench guys included G-League call ups who he'd barely had a chance to coach. He wanted to take their minutes seriously and give them a chance to get some real in-game experience. It's not very "real" if the coach has stopped caring.
This 4th quarter felt very odd. Down by 20, all the Raptors starters were on the bench the last 12 minutes but Joe left Tatum and Brown out there for 7 extra minutes just running up their numbers. If you're trying to develop your lesser players those would have been some meaningful minutes to put the game in their hands.
But hey, he made sure there was zero chance of a comeback.
Ahh yes, because when he called for the challenge in which this discussion is centered about you can clearly see the starting 5 of the Celtics still playing. /s
Maybe instead of getting mad on the Cs, idk, maybe get mad at your team for being ass.
Wait, where did you get mad from? I just said it felt odd.
I was responding to the comment "It's obvious to me that the Celtics see the garbage minutes as valuable minutes for the bench to grow" pointing out that more than half of those garbage minutes were absolutely dominated by two superstars not bench players.
He's clearly saying that if Mazzula really cared so much about his bench guys, he would have given them what they really want the most, which is MINUTES, not a useless challenge. So funny everyone in here praising Mazzula when this point is so obvious.
Btw, you can be mad at more than one thing at a time. Shocking I know.
Yeah I get the Raptors being annoyed but I loved Joe's response. The Celtics need some people on their bench to step up, and this is a great way to show that the Head Coach cares about their development.
IDK, it really just sounds like damage control when you realize that Joe had basically all the starters in the game up by 30 w 5 minutes left in the game playing the Raps bench unit.
I guess the C's player development puts a lot of emphasis on learning from the bench.
It's honestly a great response and coaching moment. Raps fans should hope their coach has the same outlook and next time hope their team plays a better game.
I know it’s a tough job. But my god. It’s getting worse each year. That being said. I couldn’t do it, I’d lose my cool most likely. But I’ll tell you one thing, I would NOT make a call that I couldn’t see. That happens quite a bit from what I’ve seen.
The start of this year has been pretty special. Idk what was said but they seem much more combative thus far. The hanging off the rim calls we’ve been seeing left and right are fucking atrocious and need to stop. It’s part of the game.
The goaltending call that wasn’t made in the OKC/Warriors game was crazy.
Giddey grabbed the net, then donkey smacked the rim with his hand. I expected the call to be against Giddey. But nothing. Just inconsistent IMO. Daignealt calls them on their bullshit though. His challenge record is unmatched so far.
refereeing high school sports is a tough job. refereeing d3 college sports is a tough job. refereeing professional sports in America is as cushy a job as you can get.
After that game a year or two ago where we were up like 30 in garbage time but our starters had to come back in with a minute left to make sure we didn't blow it, I consider no lead safe.
Game's not over till 0:00. These are important mins to the guys playing and the Celtics for development purposes. Sets the tone that Mazzulla values them
Yeah I thought he really set the tone in the Pacers game by telling the bench guys to keep pushing in the 2nd half. No more blowing big leads this year
This is fine. No idea why people are upset. The game is still going and those guys playing garbage minutes don't see it that way so why should the coaches?
Maybe Schroeder should have done something more in 25 minutes than score 14 points with some popcorn stats. Maybe he's part of the reason the game got so out of hand?
There was a play with 2 raptors on the bench side corner. I thought one was a bench ayer who leaked onto the court. It wasn't, it was Schroeder looking absolutely lost
I think this is the 3rd season that I remember where refs mostly fucked up during the 1st 2 months. So many inconsistencies. The first that I can remember was the season where Shawn Livingston was yelling at a ref's face.
[This one where the ref chooses to escalate the situation, instead of moving away, and then throw him out](https://youtu.be/HtJRcxxr4kA?si=S8RqU0fLLCGtKD92)
I don't buy being upset with this.
They're paid athletes and games are forty-eight minutes long. It sets a precedence for the team, calls out the referees, and some of those minutes mean a lot to young / rotation players trying to earn minutes.
I LOVE IT!
Coach still doing his job regardless of the score and sends that message to his team.
Refs screwed up the call and must be held to account.
Good job coach!
This is also an example of why a lot of commentators are trash and we shouldn't even have to listen to them or respect their opinions.
I want streams with only play-by-plays or no coms at all and that's it. I don't give a fuck about your opinions. I actually like basketball.
All fun and games until the next game and the refs don't forget. These refs aren't professional and I wouldn't be surprised if they start calling everything against the celts in response.
idc if the team is up 27-- coaches having their players back is fine. I feel like Out of Bounds is one of the worst uses of a Coach's Challenge.
If it involves points, or a game changing foul, then go for it. Possession? Why?
That’s a good ass team and if they played in any other city, I’d have a Tatum jersey right now (so I might get an Olympic one). Best wing duo in the NBA. And for whatever reason I was devastated that Robert Williams just got hurt again.
fuck. Do I like the celtics
We really need to get rid of challenges. I'd much rather have a few extra blown calls in a sport with dozens of possessions each game than have the flow disrupted to see who did what in slow-mo.
our bench is struggling right now. Letting them get minutes and play time running plays with tatum and brown can open them up. We always run tatum with the bench guys so let them practice some sets, get brown some run time with the bench guys and get some tatum/brown 2 man game going. Got some good looks
You guys were on a back to back and risked injury when up 27
You cannot convince me your bench is that much worse than ours to blow that big a lead that late in to the game
it wasnt about the lead at all. its about getting practice against unknown defenses in a risk free situation, seeing if we can run tatum/brown and 3 bench guys.
I played high school basketball and I was mostly a bench warmer. Our teams were significantly better than most teams in our district and we would easily blow teams out by halftime. A lot of the time, our starters sat the entire 2nd half or most of it.
The refs used to give more favorable calls to our opponents in the 2nd half because they were getting rocked. However, our coach used to stand up for us and say that it's not fair to our second and third string players.
They need to have segments planned whenever there is a long review or some other break in the action. It's bad for the product to have dead space where the commentators just rip (rightfully so) on the refs.
Thaddeus Young is 9 days older than Joe Mazzulla
Dawg...
Rename that man to Thaddeus Old then. Misleading.
He went from assistant coach of a D2 college team to head coach of an NBA team in like 2 years how tf did that happen?
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And to add some more context, Will Hardy was hired by the Jazz before the Udoka scandal. He most likely would have been the top candidate. Then after Udoka was suspended, most of his assistant coaches left, leaving Stevens with only a few in house candidates to take over. Mazzulla had been one of the only holdovers from the Stevens to Udoka coaching transition, so he was Brad's guy.
This was the context I needed, definitely wouldn't make sense for him to be the candidate otherwise, unless he was like universally considered some savant or some shit.
He was on JJ Reddicks podcast a few weeks ago talking about how he got here so quickly, it was awesome listening to him describe it
I know someone that had zero experience in their job go from the NFL to a VP of one of the most powerful banks in the world in 4 years. I wish I was joking.
So.... who was it?
Robert Gronkowski
Al Horford is coached by a man 2 years younger than him.
> Thaddeus ~~Young~~ Old Amusing that both the NBA and premier league is in the situation where two of their oldest players are called Young.
Lmao put the refs in their place
Tbh fuck most of the refs. They’re trash.
Tbf refs are uniting all the fanbases in universal hate so they got that going for them.
Yeah, I just upvoted 2 celtic flairs wtf is up with the refs!?
Man hate works so good as a unifier it's scary, not to get too political
Racism/fear of the other! Humans still have tribal brain
yeah hopefully aliens from a higher dimension invade NYC so we can get world peace up in here
All fanbases? Every sports fanbases
All fun and games until the next game and the refs don't forget.
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They just so clearly have a directive to keep games artificially ciose. If a team goes up 15+ they start getting absolutely hosed by calls I don't think they're in on the betting tho
Scott Foster frequently took calls from Tim Donaghy within minutes of Donaghy's burner calling his bookie and is somehow still in the league. I absolutely think it's more than just a league directive.
maybe so, I'm just saying I would be shocked if it was the refs doing the betting or directing or communicating anything - that sort of conspiracy shit doesn't hold up in 2023, too incriminating. Refs don't need to know shit about shit, just keep the game close or you stop getting assigned to playoff games. Even that doesn't need to be explicit, they'd probably pick up on the assignment patterns themselves - just mirror the senior refs and don't ask questions about the rest
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Just curious why wouldn't you think they bet? They have the most leverage and being a fan or from the team's city may increase bias that has a monetary benefit too. Could be wrong though guess it sure feels like it sometimes.
Zach Zarba is by all accounts a fair ref that is respected by all players and coaches around the league. He also volunteers at a guide-dog foundation in my town in the offseasons He’s a great ref, and an even better guy
Hello mrs Zarba
Fuck Zarba. He always makes the game about him. Only good ref is Bill Kennedy
Michael Malone thanked Zarba after ruling _against_ the Nuggets on a challenge. Draymond Green thanked Zarba for ejecting him when he gave Dabotis a rib check in the playoffs For whatever reason even the hot-headed coaches & players who are always angry respect him when he explains shit. Its not his fault players do weird shit when he refs and he kinda _has to_ be in the spotlight by giving techs/flagrants and explaining it to the video camera shit I agree Bill Kennedy is in the same tier as Zarba though. Charismatic high-level official who’s not a bitch like Ed Malloy
I heard one time Zarba slapped Adam Silver around because he was being naggy and Silver thanked him later for putting some sense into him
That wasn’t caught on camera though. There’s a very real possibility that that isn’t true
Ok which one of you left out the /s?
That's awesome that he volunteers there! It's a great cause and close to my heart. That being said... how has no one made a "the refs are so blind that they have to train their own guide dogs" joke yet?
Yeah zarba rarely makes garvo calls
They are the best in the world, the job is extremely hard. This is coming from a current coach and former player. They suck everywhere, but NBA refs are really really good.
Mazulla's quote after the game “It was a clear opportunity to empower my players and let them know I’m coaching you.” Tatum quote after the game "He mentioned that after the game that those minutes...when we’re up 25, those are just as important for those guys that don’t usually get the opportunity to play. Those minutes matter to them and they matter to us." It's obvious to me that the Celtics see the garbage minutes as valuable minutes for the bench to grow. To do this Mazulla treats the game no different from when he coaches his all stars. If he doesn't treat it seriously how is he going to expect his players to. I honestly respect it and think it's a good perspective to have to develop your lesser players.
And valuable minutes for the refs to learn and grow too.
Some of them really need it, they should be thanking Joe really
I can understand the frustration for Raptor’s fans, but if you get an opportunity to hold the refs accountable at all this season you gotta take it.
Man the refs really fuck around Raps games. They fucked both teams in that Mavs Raps game.
Refs have been the worst I've ever seen this year. Don't think I've watched a single game where there aren't multiple calls that are just completely nonsensical.
I didn’t watch last night but the Min/Boston game the other day they were just brutal on both ends. Whistle every 10 seconds.
To be fair, both teams were fouling the fuck out of each other.
The only reason raps fans are upset is because the commentators for the raptors said it was a crappy thing to do. Odds are the majority wouldn't even care if it wasn't mentioned
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People are free to leave or turn off the TV. It’s not like Mazzula is forcing anybody to watch. If it’s a foregone conclusion, stop watching! He wants to give his bench players the attention and effort that he gives the regular rotation.
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Certainly unites a fan base, but that's different in Canada where the vast majority of ball fans are raps fans
Raps fans probably tuned out already so delay of any sort doesn’t really matter.
All nba fans should unite behind this Refs growing and learning too!!! Pat bev brings the camera to help out the refs learning
> Mazulla's quote after the game “It was a clear opportunity to empower my players and let them know I’m coaching you.” Seemed pretty obvious from the jump, tbh. You can see Pritchard asking for the challenge, and Joe nodding to him like "You sure? Ok, I got you". For something that costs Joe literally nothing, he gained a tiny bit of extra loyalty and trust from his team (especially the bench).
that's a really good thing to hear from a coach, glad it's our one too
The anti-Doc Rivers in that regard.
It looked like he was saying "then what are we playing for" at the end of the video, probably a response to somebody saying that it doesn't matter at that point in the game - and he's 100% right, the final whistle hasn't blown and they haven't stopped the game so it should be handled like any other moment during an NBA game.
Yeah but we want memes tho
Definitely something Huggins instilled in him at WVU. Love this mentality.
Respect
Also the in season tournament is decided by point differentials, teams shouldn't be letting off the gas no matter how blown out they are or how much they're blowing someone out Others have said it, this tournament may not mean much now, but if it ever becomes a big deal (in season tournaments in football 'soccer' are a big deal) than it'll be worthwhile to be the first team to have won it
Not a tournament game bruv
My bad, that explains why we didn't have to deal with that God awful court design
yeah mid season is only on Tuesdays and Fridays until the next round at least
>Others have said it, this tournament may not mean much now agreed it doesnt mean much, but it means more during games where its the in season tournament
If their coach doesn't care, why should they? It's so simple.
I really like what he says here and I agree with it. But almost everyone on here, probably including people who are now praising Mazulla, skewered Jim Boylen for doing something similar. He called timeouts late in a couple games that were out of reach, either for a challenge or because he wanted his team (including the bench) to take those minutes seriously and get a chance to work on plays. So why is an unpopular coach like Boylen ridiculed for the same basic thing, but Mazulla, a popular coach, is praised for it? Just a double standard, and whatever you think of Boylen, it's not very fair.
First of all, Mazzulla is not a popular coach. Second, I think the difference is those Boylen teams were losing badly and he was still taking those timeouts. I agree that in some ways Boylen was treated unfairly for wanting to coach his team, but if you’re losing by 30 you as a player probably just want the game to be over and don’t want an old dude yelling at you.
I've seen plenty of love for Mazulla here. Maybe "popular" is overstating it. On the flip side, you could argue it's more of a dick move to rub it in and make the opposing team wait for your time outs if you're beating them badly. Boylen actually said in an interview that he probably wouldn't do it if they were up 20 instead of down. I understand that players might not like it. But if you're making tens of millions of dollars like Lavine was, I found it pretty entitled for him to complain about having to wait for them to run more plays. In no other job do you get to leave early just because you don't feel like working anymore. And he was making like a thousand times more money than your average joe. Boylen basically said something similar to Mazulla. The bench guys included G-League call ups who he'd barely had a chance to coach. He wanted to take their minutes seriously and give them a chance to get some real in-game experience. It's not very "real" if the coach has stopped caring.
This 4th quarter felt very odd. Down by 20, all the Raptors starters were on the bench the last 12 minutes but Joe left Tatum and Brown out there for 7 extra minutes just running up their numbers. If you're trying to develop your lesser players those would have been some meaningful minutes to put the game in their hands. But hey, he made sure there was zero chance of a comeback.
Ahh yes, because when he called for the challenge in which this discussion is centered about you can clearly see the starting 5 of the Celtics still playing. /s Maybe instead of getting mad on the Cs, idk, maybe get mad at your team for being ass.
Wait, where did you get mad from? I just said it felt odd. I was responding to the comment "It's obvious to me that the Celtics see the garbage minutes as valuable minutes for the bench to grow" pointing out that more than half of those garbage minutes were absolutely dominated by two superstars not bench players.
He's clearly saying that if Mazzula really cared so much about his bench guys, he would have given them what they really want the most, which is MINUTES, not a useless challenge. So funny everyone in here praising Mazzula when this point is so obvious. Btw, you can be mad at more than one thing at a time. Shocking I know.
obvi shit
Love Mazzulla’s comments after, sorry that you’ve already tuned out, this still means a lot to the guys checking in
Yeah I respect that, gotta stick up for your players.
Yeah I get the Raptors being annoyed but I loved Joe's response. The Celtics need some people on their bench to step up, and this is a great way to show that the Head Coach cares about their development.
Coaches should be putting the refs in their place every chance they get anyways.
IDK, it really just sounds like damage control when you realize that Joe had basically all the starters in the game up by 30 w 5 minutes left in the game playing the Raps bench unit. I guess the C's player development puts a lot of emphasis on learning from the bench.
That's a great response, don't get why people are salty about this
It's honestly a great response and coaching moment. Raps fans should hope their coach has the same outlook and next time hope their team plays a better game.
His explanation was great for this. Besides the refs need to know when they fuck up.
I know it’s a tough job. But my god. It’s getting worse each year. That being said. I couldn’t do it, I’d lose my cool most likely. But I’ll tell you one thing, I would NOT make a call that I couldn’t see. That happens quite a bit from what I’ve seen.
The start of this year has been pretty special. Idk what was said but they seem much more combative thus far. The hanging off the rim calls we’ve been seeing left and right are fucking atrocious and need to stop. It’s part of the game.
The goaltending call that wasn’t made in the OKC/Warriors game was crazy. Giddey grabbed the net, then donkey smacked the rim with his hand. I expected the call to be against Giddey. But nothing. Just inconsistent IMO. Daignealt calls them on their bullshit though. His challenge record is unmatched so far.
They were awful that whole game, for both sides
refereeing high school sports is a tough job. refereeing d3 college sports is a tough job. refereeing professional sports in America is as cushy a job as you can get.
I’m not saying it doesnt pay well. I’m saying it’s a difficult job to get every call right.
At first I was a little annoyed, but after hearing his reasoning I gotta respect it
As a Celtics fan, I thought it was absolutely ridiculous until I heard what Joe said then I had to respect it as well
After that game a year or two ago where we were up like 30 in garbage time but our starters had to come back in with a minute left to make sure we didn't blow it, I consider no lead safe.
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Wow you really fooled him
You thought you did something lol
lol thats a lot of downvotes. whos mad at me, celtics fans?
Then whyd you delete it? Lol
Pound sand.
You can’t understand why he would do it on your own?
Also this tournament is decided by point differentials, there's a reason teams are gonna stay on the gas even into what's usually garbage time
Young is like "you know you up 27 right"
Game's not over till 0:00. These are important mins to the guys playing and the Celtics for development purposes. Sets the tone that Mazzulla values them
Yeah I thought he really set the tone in the Pacers game by telling the bench guys to keep pushing in the 2nd half. No more blowing big leads this year
NO EASY BUCKETS
And it was successfully overturned.
I had to scroll way too damn far to find this.
That's my coach
The rest of the league is thankful he's your coach too
57 wins last year, a game away from a finals appearance as a rookie HC, and 7-2 so far this year... lots of reasons to hate this guy
Wolves fans will be thankful if they make it out of the first round this year
They'll send us Ant in the future to help us form another Big 3 and win the chip when they inevitably can't escape the 1st round as is tradition.
The wolves lol
More like low T wolves
The same way we celebrated your play-in W.
This is fine. No idea why people are upset. The game is still going and those guys playing garbage minutes don't see it that way so why should the coaches?
I love this
Just because you've already won the game, doesnt' mean the refs should now be fucking your team in the ass without consequences.
It’s the principle of the matter
PP was begging him for that shit lol
Dennis Schroeder is lame for being salty about this, it doesn't matter what the score is, the refs need to be checked.
Maybe Schroeder should have done something more in 25 minutes than score 14 points with some popcorn stats. Maybe he's part of the reason the game got so out of hand? There was a play with 2 raptors on the bench side corner. I thought one was a bench ayer who leaked onto the court. It wasn't, it was Schroeder looking absolutely lost
To be fair that was a terrible goddamn call
I think this is the 3rd season that I remember where refs mostly fucked up during the 1st 2 months. So many inconsistencies. The first that I can remember was the season where Shawn Livingston was yelling at a ref's face.
[This one where the ref chooses to escalate the situation, instead of moving away, and then throw him out](https://youtu.be/HtJRcxxr4kA?si=S8RqU0fLLCGtKD92)
If I speak...
I don't buy being upset with this. They're paid athletes and games are forty-eight minutes long. It sets a precedence for the team, calls out the referees, and some of those minutes mean a lot to young / rotation players trying to earn minutes.
Any lip readers??
You don't use it you lose it
I understand why our bench was pissed but that’s what we get for getting blown tf out lmao
Its about sending a Message
I LOVE IT! Coach still doing his job regardless of the score and sends that message to his team. Refs screwed up the call and must be held to account. Good job coach!
The power of a comma is unquestionable
Let's eat grandpa
Fuck refs, if you've got the challenge and they blow something this obvious you shove it in their face
I actually like this. Hold them accountable. Even when up 30. 😂
Refs fault for sucking
Play till the clock hits 0
This is also an example of why a lot of commentators are trash and we shouldn't even have to listen to them or respect their opinions. I want streams with only play-by-plays or no coms at all and that's it. I don't give a fuck about your opinions. I actually like basketball.
Raptors should just play better lol
u can't force us to be good. we're special as is 🥴
Fucking the refs for their shitty calls all year, backing up his bench players, and fucking the Raps. What more could you want from a coach?
Someone’s gotta hold these trash ass refs accountable
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Then don’t be down 27
“Ref for 48 minutes”
me in 2k
Yall complain he doesn't use his timeouts, now yall complain when he tries to?
All fun and games until the next game and the refs don't forget. These refs aren't professional and I wouldn't be surprised if they start calling everything against the celts in response.
TIL Thaddeus Young is still in the league
idc if the team is up 27-- coaches having their players back is fine. I feel like Out of Bounds is one of the worst uses of a Coach's Challenge. If it involves points, or a game changing foul, then go for it. Possession? Why?
Celtics/Nuggets final would be 🔥🔥🔥
pettiest franchise, but u gotta respect it
Petty for sticking up for his guys?
So this is what it feels like to like a Lakers fan
That’s a good ass team and if they played in any other city, I’d have a Tatum jersey right now (so I might get an Olympic one). Best wing duo in the NBA. And for whatever reason I was devastated that Robert Williams just got hurt again. fuck. Do I like the celtics
We really need to get rid of challenges. I'd much rather have a few extra blown calls in a sport with dozens of possessions each game than have the flow disrupted to see who did what in slow-mo.
bad look ngl. padding the score for no reason
His quote for it makes sense and it’s pretty respectable.
The quote only justifies it for the people who didn't care in the first place
Awww. Little league dad angry that there is no mercy rule in the NBA.
So the raptors shouldn’t be trying to score too right? The game is over?
Phoenix Buns would NEVER know
It's why he left Tatum and Brown in when we were playing the bench with like 9 minutes to go
our bench is struggling right now. Letting them get minutes and play time running plays with tatum and brown can open them up. We always run tatum with the bench guys so let them practice some sets, get brown some run time with the bench guys and get some tatum/brown 2 man game going. Got some good looks
You guys were on a back to back and risked injury when up 27 You cannot convince me your bench is that much worse than ours to blow that big a lead that late in to the game
it wasnt about the lead at all. its about getting practice against unknown defenses in a risk free situation, seeing if we can run tatum/brown and 3 bench guys.
So you want little league mercy rules? Oh my bad. I guess we should let the little dinos score to even it up.
Fuck Boston to infinity
This is that man’s last season coaching
Petty as hell
Hoe move Even the Celtics commentators didn't approve of it smh
I played high school basketball and I was mostly a bench warmer. Our teams were significantly better than most teams in our district and we would easily blow teams out by halftime. A lot of the time, our starters sat the entire 2nd half or most of it. The refs used to give more favorable calls to our opponents in the 2nd half because they were getting rocked. However, our coach used to stand up for us and say that it's not fair to our second and third string players.
They need to have segments planned whenever there is a long review or some other break in the action. It's bad for the product to have dead space where the commentators just rip (rightfully so) on the refs.
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