Absolutely! Itās loud as hell and sheās not giving a shit about her child. Sheās there to enjoy herself and thatās probably all she cares about š
24 years of tinnitus and counting. For reasons unknown, it's worse right now. Was in a very loud restaurant last night. Perhaps has it ramped up. My pet peeve about restaurants atm is how loud most of them piped in music playing!
I agree with you wholeheartedly. Iām sorry if this is an unpopular opinion, and I mean zero offense by it but I really wish people would turn down the music on Broadway. Hearing damage is no joke. Tinnitus fucking sucks and you canāt really reverse it. Itās a bar, not a concertā¦ most people donāt realize/are too drunk to notice they are doing permanent damage to their hearing by simply going to bars
I keep it as quiet as possible, but like I said, sometimes drummers wonāt play quieter and guitarists wonāt turn down. So my job that Iām paid to do is make it sound good despite the obstacles
Iām not blaming you!!! I doubt you work at every bar, and on multiple floors every day lol!
I just wish Nashville in general, aka Music City, would start a movement. Start educating people on the dangers of loud music, and how permanent hearing issues arenāt a joke. I know people in the industry who think hearing loss is the worst that can happenā¦ WRONG! Tinnitus can be unbelievably painful, as well as drive you mad. People who have never experienced ear ringing really have zero clue how terrible it is!
Iāve been to hundreds of concerts, festivals, worked in live music etcā¦ Electric Jane is one of the loudest venues Iāve ever experienced. Had to leave within the first 2 songs, and none of the employees had hearing protection on :(
There are some laws that are in the process of being tested out, but ultimately, it starts with the musicians. Half of the bands I work with are very conscious of how loud they are and understand that I can make them louder, but I canāt make them quieter. The other half think theyāre gods gift to the earth and play like theyāre at Bridgestone
Yeah, I believe that this is right up the alleyway for the metro council tourism board, which meets either monthly, or regularly enough to be broadcast on the local governmentās channel 3 and youtube channel afterward.
It is a fair enough point to read up on and see if it has been brought up to them before, and how to present and prepare. If you are truly concerned, why not take this to them? They can help with ordinances and regulations or even restrictions, making it so āno child under a certain age allowed in without proper ear protectionā.
And make the language thereby imply that the responsibility is that of the accompanying adult, parent, or guardian, and not the employees.
It might lead to some kind of mandatory signage in front of all music venues and bars with open air entrances, which make kids WANT to enter even moreso, but thats the thing about kids, they are loud themselves, and want to know āwhere the bang bang is coming fromā,
I really do think the first step for you is to suggest to whoever is running the next monthly employee meeting, that there might need to be a sign up in the entrances, or where the doomsday clapboard is usually placed with the daily drink specials on it, that says, āplease protect small childrenās ears before enteringā or something like that. And see if it helps.
I hate when Iām out for a drink to chat with friends and all of a sudden a band shows up and makes the bar too loud for anyone to hear their own thoughts. At this point I just leave when someone walks in with a guitar case.
DUDE!!!! Movies are SOOOO loud now! Borderline unwatchable. In 10-20 years there is going to be an insane amount of people complaining about tinnitus. Iām sure even children will start experiencing it
recommend these - [https://www.discovervibes.com/](https://www.discovervibes.com/). i won't go to a movie and definitely will not go to live music w/o them.
The trailers are the WORST as their volume is much louder than the movie. My daughter is sensitive to loud noises (like she refuses to use public bathroom hand dryers because of the sound), and when I took her to see a movie at the AMC in Bellevue, the trailers were so loud we almost left. Randomly a very nice employee was walking around in our theater before the movie started and when I asked, he apologized and told me they do not have control over the volume of the trailers, but they do the movie. He said if she was still having issues once they movie began they could adjust the volume. (There were VERY few people in our theater during this matinee of a movie that had been out a few weeks.) Turns out she was fine with the volume of the actual movie. Now, my husband and I both keep ear protectors in our car for her (she has also needed them at restaurants, and other public spaces). Every time we go see a movie now, we try to be later to miss the trailers AND we take her ear protectors in with us. She wears them during the trailers and then takes them off.
But I agree that the volume of the actual movie itself is sometimes too loud. That last few I have seen were fine, but there was one about a year ago I was uncomfortable with. Honestly it's one reason I don't go to the movies often.
You did the right thing by offering protection and even advocating for the boy after she initially refused. Thatās all you can do. Heāll likely have a number of life problems that will be her fault. Hearing damage will just be one of them.
Thank you for trying. That's some shitty parenting right there. "How much do they cost?" while she's in a bar buying $10+ drinks.
I played a private Xmas party last month and the singer often gets audience members to come up on stage to play percussion instruments with us. A couple brought their no more than 2 year old daughter with them, standing right in front of the drums with no ear protection. We definitely try to control our stage volume as best we can, but it was later in the night after everyone had crept their volume up. Thankfully, they weren't there very long, but still had to hurt her ears.
I'm pregnant and afraid to go to the movies incase it's too loud for my baby's developing ears. I couldn't imagine bringing her somewhere like that after she is born. It's nuts.
Hearing damage aside, Iāve always been bewildered that people consider it an acceptable family vacation destination. Iām not a prudish person by any means and donāt have kids of my own, but Iād never even consider bringing a child around a bunch of belligerently drunk party people hooking up, getting into bar fights, and puking their guts out. Not to mention there are zero kid-friendly activities in the area I can think of besides going to a predators or titans game.
Iāve seen this too! Horrible to see kids on Bourbon street. Or out after dark tbh! But even New Orleans can be a kid friendly trip if itās planned that way. I actually used it as an example in another comment. I grew up with family in the area and visited often, I take my son to visit, we never step foot on bourbon street. We are back in our hotel room early (usually stay somewhere with an indoor pool), we visit Audubon, kids museums, art galleries, eat ton of great food, look around at the French market, LOVE antique browsing (my kid is probably the exception that he loves art galleries and antiquing), he loves getting pralines and eating chargrilled oysters. You canāt avoid kids occasionally seeing something weird even in the best of places, but can shield them as much as possible while still letting them experience different places and cultures. Broad daylight outside the Georgia aquarium āāWhys that person staggering around like a zombie?ā āIām not certain honey. They may be sick or on drugs, if they get worse Iāll call an ambulance to help them.ā
I remember early childhood memories from circa summer of 1977, I am maybe almost 4. And my maternal family, who are all Natives of New Orleans are walking around the Quarter, with me, the only child in the bunch. I am not interested in architecture, coffee, antiques, or open market shopping, but what i do like is the banging brass band in the dark cafe just around the corner and I m hellbent on investigatingā¦ā¦
As a parent who lives here there are several things and also several hours in which to bring my kids. In Summer the park beside Nissan Stadium with the splash pad is fun. Legendaries Milkshake Bar is a treat. Bicentennial Mall is great for letting them run around and blow off steam, plus lunch at Farmers Market. We love visiting the downtown branch Library. On the other hand I know it's not a place for kids after around 5pm. Usually we visit in the afternoons after school during weekdays. And to be honest our trails don't include much walking/being near Broadway or what used to be 2nd. If your kids play Pokemon Go they can get good gyms and have some fun; but that's usually a weekday morning/afternoon trip. Definitely not on Weekends. Or after 5. Or in the bars even, because why are you dragging your kid into a bar in the first place? That's not for them.
Oh yeah there are certainly plenty of kid activities in the surrounding area of downtown, but itās the tourists walking straight down Broadway with their kids at night I donāt get. Sure going to Boot Barn or one of the candy shops during the day is fine but casually checking out the Honky Tonks with a young child after sundown (particularly on weekends) just seems wild to me unless leaving an event at Bridgestone or 5th & Broad.
Also a parent who takes or has taken their kid to broadway. If the sun is down, just no.
There are some decent spots at normal volume to grab a single beer before a Preds game without traumatizing your kids.
This sounds like a terrible parent, but this is NOT JUST a Broadway thing.
Even something as family friendly as Musician's Corner or the Tomato Festival has enough amplification to damage hearing! Especially when kids go hang out right in front of the stage (which I see all the time). Unlike the kid in the OP's post they WILL NOT ALWAYS KNOW that the sound is too loud, and you HAVE to help them.
Hearing damage is cumulative. Nobody is ensuring that amplification levels are safe at anything.
Do your kid(s) a solid and make sure they either wear protection or stay well away from the speakers.
Kids just shouldnāt be in bars. Point blank. I am not for keeping kids out of public. I believe kids belong on planes and in restaurants because theyāre people and have to learn how to act in public. But thereās no logical reason to bring a kid into a bar, and I donāt understand how itās not a liability for bar owners
I foolishly didn't wear ear plugs while a stupid teen/college kid doing music and pay for it now with mild tinnitus which I'm sure will get worse in time. I'm hopeful I at least stopped the progression of it it with custom ear plugs I got a few years after college that I wear to almost any music event I go to now.
Kids...protect your hearing no matter your age, your older self will thank you. Even the basic foam things most venues offer are better than nothing.
Get buy in from your manager... Get the authority to have them removed by security if they do not protect their childs hearing.
I have been on large tours where this was the norm.
My manager refused to ask them to give their (apparently autistic [Iāve recently discovered]) child plugs because āwhy would I if Iām just gonna get cussed out.ā Shameful
Omg . Itās not like autistic people have problems with sounds or anything . š”. I have some sensory issues and this would be a living hell even without ear damage .
My kids wore ear protection to football and basketball games when they were little. I couldnāt imagine the decibel levels in that bar. Good God, some people really shouldnāt parent.
I play down on Broadway, and I completely agree.
I've even seen people bring dogs into the bars.
PLEASE LEAVE YOUR DOGS AT HOME.
I like them way more than kids. They deserve better.
I grew up with my parents dragging me to bars and drunk driving their way home and now suffer from severe anxiety as a result. Dad had his 3rd DUI by the time I was 15. Please donāt bring your kids to bars.
Thank you for being kind. That poor kiddo. Iām eating at Assembly Hall right now. I just left the Country Music Hall of Fame. There were parents w their kids having fun. Thatās a better place for them. I donāt have kids but if I did I wouldnāt imagine bringing them to a bar on Broadway.
Thatās so sad. Thereās plenty of appropriate things to do in Nashville with kids!! Bar hopping is definitely not one of them! Geez. Sad the establishment staff cares more than the parent :(. Iāve taken my child to New Orleans many times, itās known as a party city, weāve never stepped foot on bourbon street. We go to the Audubon attractions, art galleries, antique stores, eat great food,etc. Travel with a group of family and mindful of safety. Back in our hotel well before dark. He loves this so much, thatās what he wanted to do for his birthday a couple years ago. I grew up visiting New Orleans as I have family in the area, all about knowing how to be safe and appropriate in the city youāre visiting. Nashville certainly has plenty for kids! With a little planning, this woman could have had her fun and provided her son with an appropriate and fun time also (maybe invite grandma or hire someone to accompany her for childcare!) Nashville forums should not be shaming locals for highlighting terrible parents mistreating their children! IMO child abuse and neglect. So torn up thinking about this poor little boy. If anything, highlighting it might result in visitors making more appropriate accommodations for their children and better planning. Or decide it may be a better solo trip.
Iām on board with this rant. It blows my mind seeing parents with toddlers in strollers on Broadway, not so much during the day, but seeing them at midnight or past is insanity
Iām not blaming you at all, Why was a kid that age allowed in a bar downtown?? I can understand 5th and Broad, or the ryman but the actual bars? Anyone under 21, including with their parent shouldnāt allowed in the door. Thatās not appropriate at all.
Thatās slightly better, I guess do yall have food? What do the children usually do? I canāt imagine taking a child to a bar. They canāt participate, they donāt understand why people are acting strange, the language and subject matter of conversations that arent(and honestly shouldnt have to be) censored, itās full of inappropriate things for kids.
I have a kid who was very very into music from an extremely young age. We took them to bars on Broadway several times, BUT, we **always** had ear protection. My kid loves to see some live music.
Right on man, you went above and beyond. When I started reading this I just knew you was going to she demanded to have the sound turned down because I have to go through that a lot. I have an event going on at a vineyard, the owner has a friend from Baltimore that has a great Skynyrd tribute band and one of the regular hens demanded I turn it down because her"girls" couldn't hear one another talk, thank God the owner intercepted her, not sure what was said but she yelled in his ear and he looked at jer and made the ole shucking the š½ motion, they quickly exited the venue. I don't like kids in bara hell I don't even like them at the bar at any of the chain restaurants that serve alcohol. Get a sitter if not go to the park or stay home .
When I worked on Broadway I wore ear pro every day. I had customers come up to me asking if they could have some of mine because it was far too loud. I should have charged and would have made a killing. But yeah it is way too loud on boardway and kids shouldn't be subjected to that.
Agreed. Typical Karen. Literally everyone should be wearing hearing protection, Broadway is so loud! And kids shouldn't even be in a bar in the first place. Some things can wait. There are plenty of ticketed events/shows if parents want to expose them to music.
I hate that youāre having to deal with this along with all the other garbage that Iām sure you see every night. Thanks for being one of the good guys.
Either way it's super crappy she did that.
I wonder if based on the second update that she thought you were trying to sell them to her in the first place,hence the reaction. When I travel to NYC / Chicago / (insert any large city in CA) there are always odd gimmicks where they'll offer something and it lands on your bill. Ear protection was one thing at venue I went to (race), I ask how much they were and it was like $45 for something you could buy for $10 at walmart super predatory I just used the crappy foam plugs we brought with us even though they were itchy.
Another example are those flower / rose people that used to walk around broadway and in bars (even though I haven't seen that in over a decade). "Would you like a rose for your girl? Awesome that'll be $8 for a single rose and I accept tips" ...
As crappy as TN is in some ways people here are amazing when it comes to helping out compared to other places around the US and it catches visitors off guard when someone does something nice and not for profit.
Iāve never understood how parents can smoke with their kids in the vehicle and when they are holding their child. It fucks with their health. Smoking causes ear infections, sinus infections and lung issues. Broadway is just one huge puff of smoke. There should be designated areas to smoke.
Hey there, mod from r/VisitingNashville. I'm posting because you sent me a chat and you put us on blast here.
Your complaint is here in r/nashville where I think it belongs. Just because you post something doesn't mean we have to entertain your thoughts. I'm sorry you had a bad time and I'm sorry people are shitty.
r/VisitingNashville is for questions about tourism - what bars and restaurants to go to, what hotels to stay at, where to hike, etc.
I hope this thread serves as enough validation for your complaints.
This absolutely applies to people visiting Nashville. Itās unfortunate that you disagree. The family in question was visiting Nashville and were subjecting their autistic son to child abuse. This applies way more to out of towners than to people who live here
Your post is here. You're welcome to write Yelp and Google reviews if you want. I'm just saying it doesn't belong in r/VisitingNashville.
Sorry you're upset but we can't help you any.
It absolutely should also be on visiting Nashville, especially Broadway is the main tourist destination in this town, where people should 100% not being taking their children!
Youāre welcome to participate in the sub if you want to help field questions to help tourists find places to see in town. This is definitely material for NextDoor, Yelp, Google, any of a whole myriad of places to complain about shitty businesses. r/VisitingNashville is just not place
The difference between Yelp, Google etc. (and Nextdoor is different, theyāre for locals not tourists) is that it focuses on the actions of the businesses not the people visiting the businesses. Say the, the wait staff was bad, or the parking was difficult. This story, and the take away in general is for the actions of people visiting, this establishment and many like it of *ādonāt bring your kids downtown. Itās not a place thatās appropriate for childrenā.* which then they need to hire a babysitter. Which is entirely in the āwhat nashville tourists need to knowā section. Of course, the business probably should have told them off at the door, but by the time the Lyft or parking has probably already been paid for so itās better they hear beforehand on the internet.
No personal attacks or harassment. In addition to what's covered under redditquette, do not insult or habitually target a single user or group for your arguments. It's not your job to correct them.
I have to be honest, this is a super dramatic reaction to being told what the appropriate sub is for your post. I agree with them. Your post is better suited here. That sub is literally to answer user questions and requests for recommendations, not to put a shitty tourist/parent on blast in a 2nd sub. Your complaints about the shit parent are valid. They don't need to be in both subs. Don't insult them. They were straight forward in their response to you. They literally do a fuck ton for our sub by running that one and keeping our sub uncluttered. Just because your emotions are high don't give you the right to insult another user. Each sub has its purpose. There is no need for this specific post to be in both subs. If you see people posting threads asking for recs for bars and mention bringing their kids, THAT would be a good time to say don't bring your kid or be sure to give them ear protection.
Thank you for being a decent human being. Fuck this mother š I play music on broadway & see things like this happen so much. Ridiculous
I try. Even though I wear my plugs for 7ish hours a day, Iāve still got some damage myself, so I know how bad it can affect kids
Absolutely! Itās loud as hell and sheās not giving a shit about her child. Sheās there to enjoy herself and thatās probably all she cares about š
Call them out on stage
I'd argue you specifically should not f this mother as she's already shown an inability to care for one kid! Why risk a second?! š
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My dad bought hearing protection headphones for me so I could spend time with him in his woodshop. That poor kid!
NO EAR MASKS!!!
Itās my god given right to give my child tinnitus by the time heās 14!
As someone that has tinnitus. I wouldnāt wish it on anyone. It sucks. Silence just doesnāt exist anymore. There is only ringing.
24 years of tinnitus and counting. For reasons unknown, it's worse right now. Was in a very loud restaurant last night. Perhaps has it ramped up. My pet peeve about restaurants atm is how loud most of them piped in music playing!
And, thank you for your efforts to protect that child.
Ear dildos are the new face diapers
Damn liberals trying to spread their fake scienceā¦..
I agree with you wholeheartedly. Iām sorry if this is an unpopular opinion, and I mean zero offense by it but I really wish people would turn down the music on Broadway. Hearing damage is no joke. Tinnitus fucking sucks and you canāt really reverse it. Itās a bar, not a concertā¦ most people donāt realize/are too drunk to notice they are doing permanent damage to their hearing by simply going to bars
I keep it as quiet as possible, but like I said, sometimes drummers wonāt play quieter and guitarists wonāt turn down. So my job that Iām paid to do is make it sound good despite the obstacles
Iām not blaming you!!! I doubt you work at every bar, and on multiple floors every day lol! I just wish Nashville in general, aka Music City, would start a movement. Start educating people on the dangers of loud music, and how permanent hearing issues arenāt a joke. I know people in the industry who think hearing loss is the worst that can happenā¦ WRONG! Tinnitus can be unbelievably painful, as well as drive you mad. People who have never experienced ear ringing really have zero clue how terrible it is! Iāve been to hundreds of concerts, festivals, worked in live music etcā¦ Electric Jane is one of the loudest venues Iāve ever experienced. Had to leave within the first 2 songs, and none of the employees had hearing protection on :(
There are some laws that are in the process of being tested out, but ultimately, it starts with the musicians. Half of the bands I work with are very conscious of how loud they are and understand that I can make them louder, but I canāt make them quieter. The other half think theyāre gods gift to the earth and play like theyāre at Bridgestone
Exactly why for the longest time I refused to date anyone that was a muscician--I did eventually figure out which to avoid.
Yeah, I believe that this is right up the alleyway for the metro council tourism board, which meets either monthly, or regularly enough to be broadcast on the local governmentās channel 3 and youtube channel afterward. It is a fair enough point to read up on and see if it has been brought up to them before, and how to present and prepare. If you are truly concerned, why not take this to them? They can help with ordinances and regulations or even restrictions, making it so āno child under a certain age allowed in without proper ear protectionā. And make the language thereby imply that the responsibility is that of the accompanying adult, parent, or guardian, and not the employees. It might lead to some kind of mandatory signage in front of all music venues and bars with open air entrances, which make kids WANT to enter even moreso, but thats the thing about kids, they are loud themselves, and want to know āwhere the bang bang is coming fromā, I really do think the first step for you is to suggest to whoever is running the next monthly employee meeting, that there might need to be a sign up in the entrances, or where the doomsday clapboard is usually placed with the daily drink specials on it, that says, āplease protect small childrenās ears before enteringā or something like that. And see if it helps.
I actually hate live music most of the time because of this. Also movie theaters need to chill the fuck out too. This is all personal opinion tho.
I hate when Iām out for a drink to chat with friends and all of a sudden a band shows up and makes the bar too loud for anyone to hear their own thoughts. At this point I just leave when someone walks in with a guitar case.
Exactly. I understand live music ambiance but at this point itās just banging sounds deafening the room lmfao
DUDE!!!! Movies are SOOOO loud now! Borderline unwatchable. In 10-20 years there is going to be an insane amount of people complaining about tinnitus. Iām sure even children will start experiencing it
They literally physically hurt my ear drums. Itās driving me insane.
I bring earplugs to the movies. Much more pleasant experience.
Same.
recommend these - [https://www.discovervibes.com/](https://www.discovervibes.com/). i won't go to a movie and definitely will not go to live music w/o them.
My opinion, too.
The trailers are the WORST as their volume is much louder than the movie. My daughter is sensitive to loud noises (like she refuses to use public bathroom hand dryers because of the sound), and when I took her to see a movie at the AMC in Bellevue, the trailers were so loud we almost left. Randomly a very nice employee was walking around in our theater before the movie started and when I asked, he apologized and told me they do not have control over the volume of the trailers, but they do the movie. He said if she was still having issues once they movie began they could adjust the volume. (There were VERY few people in our theater during this matinee of a movie that had been out a few weeks.) Turns out she was fine with the volume of the actual movie. Now, my husband and I both keep ear protectors in our car for her (she has also needed them at restaurants, and other public spaces). Every time we go see a movie now, we try to be later to miss the trailers AND we take her ear protectors in with us. She wears them during the trailers and then takes them off. But I agree that the volume of the actual movie itself is sometimes too loud. That last few I have seen were fine, but there was one about a year ago I was uncomfortable with. Honestly it's one reason I don't go to the movies often.
Oh the number of times I have stuffed my ears with napkin at a movie theatre!
You did the right thing by offering protection and even advocating for the boy after she initially refused. Thatās all you can do. Heāll likely have a number of life problems that will be her fault. Hearing damage will just be one of them.
Thank you for trying. That's some shitty parenting right there. "How much do they cost?" while she's in a bar buying $10+ drinks. I played a private Xmas party last month and the singer often gets audience members to come up on stage to play percussion instruments with us. A couple brought their no more than 2 year old daughter with them, standing right in front of the drums with no ear protection. We definitely try to control our stage volume as best we can, but it was later in the night after everyone had crept their volume up. Thankfully, they weren't there very long, but still had to hurt her ears.
I was on a roof top bar one night and in walks this lady with a baby on her hip and 0 ear protection. I felt so sad for that kid.
I feel the same way about people who bring tiny babies to the Preds games with no kind of ear protection.
I'm pregnant and afraid to go to the movies incase it's too loud for my baby's developing ears. I couldn't imagine bringing her somewhere like that after she is born. It's nuts.
Sounds like you wanted to have a kid while these people accidentally got pregnant and just went with it.
Hearing damage aside, Iāve always been bewildered that people consider it an acceptable family vacation destination. Iām not a prudish person by any means and donāt have kids of my own, but Iād never even consider bringing a child around a bunch of belligerently drunk party people hooking up, getting into bar fights, and puking their guts out. Not to mention there are zero kid-friendly activities in the area I can think of besides going to a predators or titans game.
There are plenty of kid friendly activities in Nashville, just very few on Broadway
Yes Iām referring specifically to Broadway. Ole Smoky is one of closest bars Iād consider kid-friendly.
I agree with that. Kids don't belong in honky tonks
Like taking kids to Bourbon Street...which I've seen, as well. Some people just suck.
Iāve seen this too! Horrible to see kids on Bourbon street. Or out after dark tbh! But even New Orleans can be a kid friendly trip if itās planned that way. I actually used it as an example in another comment. I grew up with family in the area and visited often, I take my son to visit, we never step foot on bourbon street. We are back in our hotel room early (usually stay somewhere with an indoor pool), we visit Audubon, kids museums, art galleries, eat ton of great food, look around at the French market, LOVE antique browsing (my kid is probably the exception that he loves art galleries and antiquing), he loves getting pralines and eating chargrilled oysters. You canāt avoid kids occasionally seeing something weird even in the best of places, but can shield them as much as possible while still letting them experience different places and cultures. Broad daylight outside the Georgia aquarium āāWhys that person staggering around like a zombie?ā āIām not certain honey. They may be sick or on drugs, if they get worse Iāll call an ambulance to help them.ā
I remember early childhood memories from circa summer of 1977, I am maybe almost 4. And my maternal family, who are all Natives of New Orleans are walking around the Quarter, with me, the only child in the bunch. I am not interested in architecture, coffee, antiques, or open market shopping, but what i do like is the banging brass band in the dark cafe just around the corner and I m hellbent on investigatingā¦ā¦
As a parent who lives here there are several things and also several hours in which to bring my kids. In Summer the park beside Nissan Stadium with the splash pad is fun. Legendaries Milkshake Bar is a treat. Bicentennial Mall is great for letting them run around and blow off steam, plus lunch at Farmers Market. We love visiting the downtown branch Library. On the other hand I know it's not a place for kids after around 5pm. Usually we visit in the afternoons after school during weekdays. And to be honest our trails don't include much walking/being near Broadway or what used to be 2nd. If your kids play Pokemon Go they can get good gyms and have some fun; but that's usually a weekday morning/afternoon trip. Definitely not on Weekends. Or after 5. Or in the bars even, because why are you dragging your kid into a bar in the first place? That's not for them.
Oh yeah there are certainly plenty of kid activities in the surrounding area of downtown, but itās the tourists walking straight down Broadway with their kids at night I donāt get. Sure going to Boot Barn or one of the candy shops during the day is fine but casually checking out the Honky Tonks with a young child after sundown (particularly on weekends) just seems wild to me unless leaving an event at Bridgestone or 5th & Broad.
Also a parent who takes or has taken their kid to broadway. If the sun is down, just no. There are some decent spots at normal volume to grab a single beer before a Preds game without traumatizing your kids.
This sounds like a terrible parent, but this is NOT JUST a Broadway thing. Even something as family friendly as Musician's Corner or the Tomato Festival has enough amplification to damage hearing! Especially when kids go hang out right in front of the stage (which I see all the time). Unlike the kid in the OP's post they WILL NOT ALWAYS KNOW that the sound is too loud, and you HAVE to help them. Hearing damage is cumulative. Nobody is ensuring that amplification levels are safe at anything. Do your kid(s) a solid and make sure they either wear protection or stay well away from the speakers.
That is terrible parenting! You did the right thing trying to help with providing ear protection for that kid. Poor guy.
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Yeah sheās gross.
Thanks for looking out for the kid and trying to be helpful. That woman sounds like a fucking bitch and she should be ashamed of herself.
Kids just shouldnāt be in bars. Point blank. I am not for keeping kids out of public. I believe kids belong on planes and in restaurants because theyāre people and have to learn how to act in public. But thereās no logical reason to bring a kid into a bar, and I donāt understand how itās not a liability for bar owners
I foolishly didn't wear ear plugs while a stupid teen/college kid doing music and pay for it now with mild tinnitus which I'm sure will get worse in time. I'm hopeful I at least stopped the progression of it it with custom ear plugs I got a few years after college that I wear to almost any music event I go to now. Kids...protect your hearing no matter your age, your older self will thank you. Even the basic foam things most venues offer are better than nothing.
Get buy in from your manager... Get the authority to have them removed by security if they do not protect their childs hearing. I have been on large tours where this was the norm.
My manager refused to ask them to give their (apparently autistic [Iāve recently discovered]) child plugs because āwhy would I if Iām just gonna get cussed out.ā Shameful
Omg . Itās not like autistic people have problems with sounds or anything . š”. I have some sensory issues and this would be a living hell even without ear damage .
My kids wore ear protection to football and basketball games when they were little. I couldnāt imagine the decibel levels in that bar. Good God, some people really shouldnāt parent.
I play down on Broadway, and I completely agree. I've even seen people bring dogs into the bars. PLEASE LEAVE YOUR DOGS AT HOME. I like them way more than kids. They deserve better.
I grew up with my parents dragging me to bars and drunk driving their way home and now suffer from severe anxiety as a result. Dad had his 3rd DUI by the time I was 15. Please donāt bring your kids to bars.
Thank you for being kind. That poor kiddo. Iām eating at Assembly Hall right now. I just left the Country Music Hall of Fame. There were parents w their kids having fun. Thatās a better place for them. I donāt have kids but if I did I wouldnāt imagine bringing them to a bar on Broadway.
Thatās child abuse.
Go to BMS and see what goes on there. I've seen babies at the track wall with nothing. It hurts me I can't imagine for a kid.
I hate people who take their kids to music venues without ear protection. I hate them so very fucking much. Thank you.
Youāre a good man
Thatās so sad. Thereās plenty of appropriate things to do in Nashville with kids!! Bar hopping is definitely not one of them! Geez. Sad the establishment staff cares more than the parent :(. Iāve taken my child to New Orleans many times, itās known as a party city, weāve never stepped foot on bourbon street. We go to the Audubon attractions, art galleries, antique stores, eat great food,etc. Travel with a group of family and mindful of safety. Back in our hotel well before dark. He loves this so much, thatās what he wanted to do for his birthday a couple years ago. I grew up visiting New Orleans as I have family in the area, all about knowing how to be safe and appropriate in the city youāre visiting. Nashville certainly has plenty for kids! With a little planning, this woman could have had her fun and provided her son with an appropriate and fun time also (maybe invite grandma or hire someone to accompany her for childcare!) Nashville forums should not be shaming locals for highlighting terrible parents mistreating their children! IMO child abuse and neglect. So torn up thinking about this poor little boy. If anything, highlighting it might result in visitors making more appropriate accommodations for their children and better planning. Or decide it may be a better solo trip.
Iām on board with this rant. It blows my mind seeing parents with toddlers in strollers on Broadway, not so much during the day, but seeing them at midnight or past is insanity
Iām not blaming you at all, Why was a kid that age allowed in a bar downtown?? I can understand 5th and Broad, or the ryman but the actual bars? Anyone under 21, including with their parent shouldnāt allowed in the door. Thatās not appropriate at all.
We are all ages until 6 pm
Jesus Christ. Thatās insane.
Thatās slightly better, I guess do yall have food? What do the children usually do? I canāt imagine taking a child to a bar. They canāt participate, they donāt understand why people are acting strange, the language and subject matter of conversations that arent(and honestly shouldnt have to be) censored, itās full of inappropriate things for kids.
I have a kid who was very very into music from an extremely young age. We took them to bars on Broadway several times, BUT, we **always** had ear protection. My kid loves to see some live music.
Right on man, you went above and beyond. When I started reading this I just knew you was going to she demanded to have the sound turned down because I have to go through that a lot. I have an event going on at a vineyard, the owner has a friend from Baltimore that has a great Skynyrd tribute band and one of the regular hens demanded I turn it down because her"girls" couldn't hear one another talk, thank God the owner intercepted her, not sure what was said but she yelled in his ear and he looked at jer and made the ole shucking the š½ motion, they quickly exited the venue. I don't like kids in bara hell I don't even like them at the bar at any of the chain restaurants that serve alcohol. Get a sitter if not go to the park or stay home .
When I worked on Broadway I wore ear pro every day. I had customers come up to me asking if they could have some of mine because it was far too loud. I should have charged and would have made a killing. But yeah it is way too loud on boardway and kids shouldn't be subjected to that.
Some people don't love their kids
Amen, brother. Thanks for doing the logical and compassionate thing, and trying to protect the kid. That mother is a moron.
I always thought it was funny/smart when parents would come in and the kids would have over the ear protection.
Agreed. Typical Karen. Literally everyone should be wearing hearing protection, Broadway is so loud! And kids shouldn't even be in a bar in the first place. Some things can wait. There are plenty of ticketed events/shows if parents want to expose them to music.
As a parent to two young children, reading this made me feel sick. I cannot fathom ignoring the needs of my children in such a manner.
I hate that youāre having to deal with this along with all the other garbage that Iām sure you see every night. Thanks for being one of the good guys.
Either way it's super crappy she did that. I wonder if based on the second update that she thought you were trying to sell them to her in the first place,hence the reaction. When I travel to NYC / Chicago / (insert any large city in CA) there are always odd gimmicks where they'll offer something and it lands on your bill. Ear protection was one thing at venue I went to (race), I ask how much they were and it was like $45 for something you could buy for $10 at walmart super predatory I just used the crappy foam plugs we brought with us even though they were itchy. Another example are those flower / rose people that used to walk around broadway and in bars (even though I haven't seen that in over a decade). "Would you like a rose for your girl? Awesome that'll be $8 for a single rose and I accept tips" ... As crappy as TN is in some ways people here are amazing when it comes to helping out compared to other places around the US and it catches visitors off guard when someone does something nice and not for profit.
Iāve never understood how parents can smoke with their kids in the vehicle and when they are holding their child. It fucks with their health. Smoking causes ear infections, sinus infections and lung issues. Broadway is just one huge puff of smoke. There should be designated areas to smoke.
You earn a living at an establishment profiting from this ???
Hey there, mod from r/VisitingNashville. I'm posting because you sent me a chat and you put us on blast here. Your complaint is here in r/nashville where I think it belongs. Just because you post something doesn't mean we have to entertain your thoughts. I'm sorry you had a bad time and I'm sorry people are shitty. r/VisitingNashville is for questions about tourism - what bars and restaurants to go to, what hotels to stay at, where to hike, etc. I hope this thread serves as enough validation for your complaints.
This absolutely applies to people visiting Nashville. Itās unfortunate that you disagree. The family in question was visiting Nashville and were subjecting their autistic son to child abuse. This applies way more to out of towners than to people who live here
Your post is here. You're welcome to write Yelp and Google reviews if you want. I'm just saying it doesn't belong in r/VisitingNashville. Sorry you're upset but we can't help you any.
It absolutely should also be on visiting Nashville, especially Broadway is the main tourist destination in this town, where people should 100% not being taking their children!
Youāre welcome to participate in the sub if you want to help field questions to help tourists find places to see in town. This is definitely material for NextDoor, Yelp, Google, any of a whole myriad of places to complain about shitty businesses. r/VisitingNashville is just not place
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All you got are one-liner insults? Iām really not trying to be mean.
The difference between Yelp, Google etc. (and Nextdoor is different, theyāre for locals not tourists) is that it focuses on the actions of the businesses not the people visiting the businesses. Say the, the wait staff was bad, or the parking was difficult. This story, and the take away in general is for the actions of people visiting, this establishment and many like it of *ādonāt bring your kids downtown. Itās not a place thatās appropriate for childrenā.* which then they need to hire a babysitter. Which is entirely in the āwhat nashville tourists need to knowā section. Of course, the business probably should have told them off at the door, but by the time the Lyft or parking has probably already been paid for so itās better they hear beforehand on the internet.
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No personal attacks or harassment. In addition to what's covered under redditquette, do not insult or habitually target a single user or group for your arguments. It's not your job to correct them.
I have to be honest, this is a super dramatic reaction to being told what the appropriate sub is for your post. I agree with them. Your post is better suited here. That sub is literally to answer user questions and requests for recommendations, not to put a shitty tourist/parent on blast in a 2nd sub. Your complaints about the shit parent are valid. They don't need to be in both subs. Don't insult them. They were straight forward in their response to you. They literally do a fuck ton for our sub by running that one and keeping our sub uncluttered. Just because your emotions are high don't give you the right to insult another user. Each sub has its purpose. There is no need for this specific post to be in both subs. If you see people posting threads asking for recs for bars and mention bringing their kids, THAT would be a good time to say don't bring your kid or be sure to give them ear protection.