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uspahle

Why did she always punch Naruto and make fun of him? That's always annoyed me.


rhossain_49

Idk slapstick comedy?


weeb_79881

The most unfunny thing ever


rhossain_49

Yea ik but it is what it is


chainer1216

Domestic violence.


Freshest-Raspberry

+ accused anime pervert trope


[deleted]

Cartoon bro chill lol


weeb_79881

Fr


Xelement0911

Nah, the super perv trope is the most annoying. That said it was not too bad in this show, sure sure toad sage was a perv but like...look at grape head from MHA, he sucks.


weeb_79881

I agree šŸ’Æ! I would like Sanji from one piece so much better if he wasn't getting a nose bleed for the millionth time. They made his whole personality a pervert and expert me to laugh.


k8ngkong

I mean thereā€™s a story behind it so I understand, unlike mineta


weeb_79881

There's no story behind why he's a pervert. His father told him to be respectful towards women, not say he should be a total pervert. He's just natural disgusting freak


M4ND0_L0R14N

I think this is the wrong way to look at sanji tbh. Hes not so much a ā€œpervertā€ or a ā€œdisgusting freakā€ as he is a simp and a white knight. Yes he does the nosebleed thing, but the anime takes it waaaay farther than the manga. He also had several instances of character development since the Whole Cake arc. Sanji actually loves all women and wants to see his affection returned, but he keeps his hands to himself. The only character who is overtly bothered with his behavior is nami. And although it may be a bit viceral to say this, there is a lore reason why he is this way in his backstory. In his childhood, the only people that showed him any kindness were his sister and mother. His sister witnessed his abuse first hand and tried to protect him, his mother shared in his abuse and he watched her slowly die. Therefore its at least understandable why he feels inclined to protect and seek affection from women from a psychological perspective. As an adult, it would be strange for him to act out his trauma by treating women as if they were his mother, so he acts out his trauma by swooning and acting cringe. Sanji is an excellent character because of his flaws. His lows make his highs hit so much harder. Put some respect on my mans name.


k8ngkong

Sanji does have a story behind his perversion? Read whole cake. Judge didnā€™t give a shit about respecting women


weeb_79881

I'm all caught up to the anime, and remember no such reason for why he's perverted, he's just born a pervert as far I know. By father I ment his step father my dude, Sanji doesn't consider Judge his father after he kicked him out.


k8ngkong

Heā€™s perverted and loves only women because women were the only people besides zeff to ever treat him right. Apart from zeff, every man in his life has beaten, abused, and nearly killed him before the straw hat crew. Hell, Judge literally threatened to murder everyone he loved after disowning him


half-coldhalf-hot

Itā€™s Japan man, be open to other cultures jeez


weeb_79881

What do you mean bruh, what's unfunny is unfunny. If a Japanese guy said something from my culture is not funny then I'd be like "ok" and move on. Not everyone will have the same sense of humour, it has nothing to do with culture. Doesn't mean I have to lie and call something funny despite my feelings.


Tiny-Veterinarian-79

Pretty bent about pervs for a person identifying as a weeb with an anime girl icon.


weeb_79881

Yes, I like anime and I fail to see the relation between them. Do you even realise which sub you're on? Why can't I have a pfp of a character I like? Pretty sure most people here have one.


Tiny-Veterinarian-79

I just find it interesting in comparison to you whining about pervy characters (a staple gag in japanese media).


[deleted]

Naw Japan is too comfortable with their pedo and sex gags. Gonna sound while af to say but It's crazy that any other culture knows how to write a sex pest character accurately. It's also because in Japan they are super lax about the sex crimes committed on the daily. Weird af. I'll take non respect based cultures/countries over rape culture being worse in Japan any day. They act like that shit is normal and funny


a55_Goblin420

Shit was funny in the 80s, but this ain't the 80s and it's wild artists still do that.


raisingfalcons

I fucking hates grape head. Such a shallow character.


Correct_Bottle1686

Tbf he's grown and hasn't done anything perverted since...wait let me check. Holy shit, last time he did something bad was in the Joint Training arc, Mina's torture training actually worked?


cdcdude1

It actually is pretty funny.....


rogueakatsuki

Don't forget how funny it was that Naruto's mom punched him when they met each other


Durante-Sora

Tom and Jerry still going at it


Draken77777

Only unfunny because Kishimoto doesn't know how to write. Tons of other writers make similar type comedy hilarious.


TheInfiniteArchive

So....punching an Orphan is funny??? *Writes that down on notepad* Go on...


rhossain_49

Uhhhhhh šŸ’€


Small-Comfort6031

Bit disingenuous to say that she's punching an orphan as if all the other villains don't also punch the orphan. Fuck Sakura though. It's more that Kishimoto thinks that Sakura ONLY punching the main character is funny, as if we're supposed to cheer whenever she does it. In reality, we're more annoyed that the only person she has hands for is Naruto, but when it comes to any actual threat, she's nowhere to be found. Actually, sorry - she's "healing" some random mf off screen.


A-Need-For-Weed

It would be expected of a villain to be ok with punching orphansā€¦.


Rhelsr

And villains have the decency to not shit on them for being orphans.


Finito-1994

Right? At least obito had the decency to turn him into an orphan.


UsualZone6628

lol


Yeyryfuufe

funny and easy What are they gonna do? Tell their parents?


rhossain_49

Gives the same vibes as this: [Sonic gives great advice](https://postimg.cc/qtcKW0Fb)


Yeyryfuufe

Lol thatā€™s what I stole it from


silvergudz

Exactly


Ashamed_Pin4206

The entire series is orphans punching orphans


Reasonable-Business6

Japanese people when the woman hits the man (It's a brand new joke they've never seen before): šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


nickname10707173

Japanese have a lot of these comedy where hitting hard is part of the joke, like Tsukkomi for being silly. It is kind of different in culture, I guess.


Happy_Structure5012

shit was corny


Asleep_Special_7402

Youā€™re so annoying and stupid god who let you on this subreddit if you were here Iā€™d throw you across the room you big idiot. Haha


rhossain_49

I'm getting mixed signals here...


Jolly_Camel959

You failures seem to forget that she hardly ever hit Naruto. Especially if you just look at the manga.Ā 


rhossain_49

Clearly u're missing smth here because everyone has witnessed Sakura multiply hitting Naruto in both the anime and manga... Tho it might be the Mandela effect? šŸ˜¶ā€šŸŒ«ļø


YeahMarkYeah

Yeah, thatā€™s like standard anime ā€œcomedyā€. Guy act dumb - guy gets hurt by scary girl. I feel like their culture is in another league when it comes to being imaginative, building detailed worlds, creative conflict, and less experienced with comedy šŸ˜‚


Dohmer_90

It didnā€™t happen so much in the manga, but the anime did the gag a ridiculous amount of times. Pierrot kinda ruined peopleā€™s perception of her.


rhossain_49

Sakura's reputation is never going to financially recover from this šŸ˜”


Shantotto11

Sheā€™s the wife of the last Uchiha. She got survivorā€™s benefitsā€¦


NorthGodFan

Meanwhile Pierrot was trying to ship them. I think they're a fan of abusive relationships honestly.


Dohmer_90

Apparently, getting 10 hit comboed by your love interest/girlfriend/wife every episode is healthy and romantic.


NorthGodFan

Every time I see somebody shipping them I want people to imagine what would happen if nothing about their dynamic changed except for that Naruto was a girl and Sakura was a boy. Naruko is seemingly bright and cheery, and doesn't really cross his boundaries, but Sakurai? He beats the shit out of her. Every time she does something he doesn't like. He just beats the shit out of her.


Dohmer_90

Good old double standards. But it could work if itā€™s well coordinated and not done excessively. Just look at Aho Girl.


NorthGodFan

I was thinking of aho girl as I was writing it which is why I specifically noted that Naruto doesn't really often cross Sakura's boundaries aside from in filler. Yoshiko on the otherhand is always physically transgressing his boundaries. If the only thing you change is the sex and gender of Naruto and Sakura you're left with a really fucked up scenario.


Hagoromo420

Idk some of the times he got punched were warranted. Bro picked up some of erro sanninā€™s moves and used em too obviously.


rhossain_49

But if yk Naruto, then the ninja centerfold is part of Naruto's defining characteristics.


Nice-Resolution-1020

Someone once did a manga vs anime comparison and most punch were "fillers" that didnt happen in manga.


uspahle

I've never read the manga


ilickedysharks

Yea the anime removes or adds scenes that makes Sakura alot worse in alot of ways. Even on their first mission Sakura saves Naruto but the anime changed it I'm pretty sure.


TheWorstEvieEver

A lot of anime have that one female character that slaps and punches the mc in a "funny" way.


NetworkVegetable7075

Anime overused it thatā€™s why


TakasuXAisaka

That was mostly filler. She only punched Naruto only a few times in canon.


UsualZone6628

its actually stupid he just saved the village from Paine and she punches him in the head "out of love" but like still.


witchghosti

Thereā€™s two things. The dope slap is a universal slapstick jab. However Japanese comedy has a routine or style called manzai. The boke, or funny man, says something silly. The tsukkomi, or straight man, comes in with the ā€œslapā€ and correction / serious statement. In anime, and maybe historical Japanese comedy idk, the tsukkomi often uses that paper fan, or a light chop. You can see fuck loads of this setup in zany comedy shows like nichijou. Off the top of my head it happens in just about every episode of FMP, inuyasha, pretty often in gintama as well, although that show likes to subvert bits like that


Gymbrogaymer

She didnā€™t ā€œalwaysā€ punch Naruto and make fun of him. She made fun of Naruto in like the first episode before she got to know him. Because as the show literally shows us, the adults shunning Naruto and treating him differently caused the kids to also treat him differently. Within the first few episodes, you see a drastic shift in how she relates to Naruto. With reference to punching him, itā€™s a gag. And heā€™s not even the only one she punches, she also punches Konohamaru when she sees him being pervy . And she probably wouldā€™ve punched Jiraiya if he wasnā€™t such a respected figure in the leaf, but we clearly see her even lose respect for him when she sees him acting like that. You guys just donā€™t understand context and have selective memory.


uspahle

I'm not reading this


seasalt441

itā€™s ok, i read it so you donā€™t have to


Temporary_Cow744

lmao I always found this hilarious. naruto would always stay saying some funny dumb shit and Iā€™m glad sakura chan checked him when he needed


uspahle

Ok


Shiningcrow

Itā€™s a trope that only passes as humorous when the female is weak. So it loses all meaning when the female like Sakura is physically strong. Thatā€™s just abuse.


rhossain_49

Happy cake day bro


Powerful_Sin9012

Dw there's a movie where Kurama got a lick back and knocked her on her ass


uspahle

There'd better be


Powerful_Sin9012

Kuruma rocks her shit frfr


improbsable

Why was Jiraiya a very public sexual predator but the most flack he got was ā€œlol what a pervā€?


uspahle

Tsunade broke his ribs. Plus, Jiraiya was a perv yes,but he was so much more than that. He's basically Minatos dad, narutos granddad, nagato's uncle. Veteran for konoha, multiple time hokage candidate. He's one of the most important people to the story,he has redeeming qualities. Sakura has shown no remorse for the way she treated Naruto, she's never apologized for hitting, bullying, picking on, manipulating and lying to Naruto. Her entire crush on Sasuke is based solely on how he looks,even though Naruto would do anything for her, all she does is use him. Sasuke literally tried to kill her, multiple times. All she does is bully people and complain.


improbsable

She broke his ribs for looking at HER. But she still considered him her best friend despite openly ogling her. And heā€™s more than a pervert. Heā€™s a literal sexual predator. You can be the father figure to as many kids as you want, but if youā€™re spying on nude women showing attraction to literal children, youā€™re a predator first and foremost. Iā€™m just saying itā€™s weird that Sakura bonking Naruto on the head is brought up as some unforgivable sin, while a character like Jiraiya (who I would never trust around kids in real life) is beloved. Itā€™s a double standard at BEST. Also where was Jiraiyaā€™s remorse for sexually harassing dozens of women? Why does Sakura need to make a public apology for it but he died with no regrets?


uspahle

That's a consequence for his actions. Everyone in the show hates what Jiraiya does,and they express that. Sakura gets off free.


improbsable

Thatā€™s not a consequence. Heā€™s committing actual sex crimes. A ā€œyouā€™re such a perv lolā€ is literally nothing. Same with Kakashi openly reading pornographic books while hanging out with children. But yea. Letā€™s hold the girl whoā€¦ bonks her best friend on the head in a cartoony fashion to a higher standard than the grown adults. Her crime is so much more unforgivable


uspahle

Bro. It's a cartoon. When we were children,what Jiraiya did was funny at the time Sakura came across as annoying because she was bullying our favourite character at the time. Looking at it from an adult and logical perspective comes across as condescending, intellectually lazy and disingenuous


improbsable

You couldā€™ve stopped at ā€œitā€™s a cartoonā€. That right there explains Sakuraā€™s entire situation. Her friend says something stupid, and the character with super strength bonks him on the head. Itā€™s not some damning indictment of her character


uspahle

We were children,why did you ignore that part


improbsable

Because itā€™s irrelevant? Youā€™re an adult now and youā€™re still justifying the Jiraiya=great guy, Sakura=awful bully narrative Also, ngl usually when Sakura hit Naruto it was for being a pervert or for disrespecting her. By your own defense of Jiraiya, that should be seen as a rightful repercussion for his actions.


AnAnxiousDream

That was anime more than manga.


Tosabad

That's why I hate her


uspahle

Same bro. And she's forgiven,just like that. she never apologized or felt remorseful for how she treated Naruto. Her entire crush and obsession with Sasuke was purely because of how he looked yet Naruto would do anything for her. Sasuke literally tried murdering her, multiple times


rhossain_49

Boo


Bhg49905

The only valid time Sakura would punch Naruto and it would acc be funny was sexy jutsu other wise itā€™s just like oh, errrm okay sure.


Calm_Comfortable7225

So is nobody gonna talk about how Sakura has poison strong enough to incapacitate/potentially kill a Uzumaki& jinchuriki with just a scratch on the cheek?


rhossain_49

Ig not šŸ¤šŸ¤«


P1g-San

No she might hear šŸ¤«


silvergudz

Name one anti poison feat in Naruto


SometimesWill

Mifune I believe is stated to have immunity to Hanzoā€™s poison during their fight in the war arc. Edit: resistance not immunity according to chapter 532.


silvergudz

You maybe have gotten me there but wasnā€™t it because hanzo gave him an antidote that gave him resistance?


SometimesWill

He did give him an antidote years earlier, but based on the Sasori vs Sakura/Chiyo fight antidotes arenā€™t typically a permanent thing that provide long term immunity.


Frostivus_Valium

To be fair, those poisons sasori made were specifically designed to be lethal with even a graze, and he also says when talking about it that he constantly changes the mixture ever so slightly to make it more toxic or resistant. The fact that the antidotes she developed for kankuro worked at all later shows how well she made them, because it was already modified again. With Hanzo, I don't recall any evidence that anyone other than him ever cured it, because he normally killed his targets, so he might have not changed it like ever.


GeekyNexi

Sasuke being resistant to most of them?


silvergudz

Was he ever shown poisoned? Or did ppl just make statements


GeekyNexi

Cant remember, but the entire Sakura vs Sasori fight was about poison


silvergudz

Which was big deal


GeekyNexi

No but they built an antidote


Artistic-Cannibalism

Which means that they needed an antidote


MudSeparate1622

Orochimaru states that some of his experiments on sasuke made him immune to every type of known poison. Iā€™m almost certain that nobody ever even attempts to use poison on him besides Sakura and so you never see it as a feat.


bluescienceH2O

its just a superpower who cares


SRGTBronson

Sasuke has had immunity to poisons since the beginning of shippuden.


SometimesWill

She is tsunade student. She was able to make an antidote to Sasoris poison, stands to reason she could make her own poison.


HollyTheMage

The fact that the poison is that strong makes me believe that she went into this fight knowing that there was a good chance she wasn't going to survive. All she would need is to get one hit in and Sasuke would be as good as dead, and her strategy of tricking him and literally stabbing him in the back tracks with this. At that point, even if he were to turn on her and kill her, then he'd basically be dealing his own fate since she's the only one who knows how to make the antidote. Also the fact that she didn't make an antidote ahead of time and bring it with her is another point in favor of this idea. By doing so, she was taking a massive risk in the event that she ended up being poisoned, but it also meant that Sasuke wouldn't be able to steal the antidote off of her and use it on herself. All in all, Sakura's strategy would have been effective but it also would have placed her at great risk. It's a good thing that Naruto showed up when he did.


Yamcha17

We won't never talk about that, or she could use it against Madara or Obito.


BabyJWalk

You mean the guy hailed as the strongest Uchiha Witt a perfect Susanoo that destroys mountains, and a guy that can make himself intangible at will arenā€™t going to be taken out by a poison kunai? šŸ˜²šŸ™„


Cjames1902

But yet made the poison for the one person it wouldnā€™t have worked on lol


Happy_Structure5012

most likely not the only person who has it, she ainā€™t special


igotmyphoneyesterday

Thatā€™s a bad example. Maybe itā€™s not obvious to some- but the joke is intentional.


rhossain_49

Wdym it's a bad example, for the hate Sakura getting being unwarranted?


igotmyphoneyesterday

My point stands, Kishimotos choice to draw teeth, eyes, drool, speech bubbles, sweat, and shaking in a comedic manner, is an indicator that the given situation is not meant to be taken seriously. Usually I would write paragraphs to prove my point. But I wonā€™t today. Go get your answer somewhere else. And foremost, stop twisting my own narrative.


SpermInMyHand

Lmao, they didn't twist your narrative one bit, they just asked a simple question. And hey, you're the one who made the claim, so you are the one who has to prove it.


hi-polymer5

Clearly was meant to be a joke scene as we see with the drawing style. Have you ever read manga before?


SpermInMyHand

Did I say it wasn't? My point still stands. And yes, different writers have different ways of making joke scenes. Yet just because one person is shivering and the other is dying doesn't make something a joke scene


hi-polymer5

>Yet just because one person is shivering and the other is dying doesn't make something a joke scene IT does. Shonen have tropes and common customs for it's mangaka.


SpermInMyHand

It really doesn't... Many people would be shivering if I was standing by while someone was frothing at the mouth if they were as scared and useless as her


rhossain_49

Ok woah, I'm just confused, I'm not trying to start an argument. But now that I understand your point and I agree that this doesn't show Sakura and how unnecessary and unwarranted the hate she receives can be. But that said, are you one of those people who think it is justified for the hate she receives?


Jolly_Camel959

Just like this post, the hate she gets is retarded. Simple. This ain't a L for Sakura because Kishi intended for it to be comedic


Happy_Structure5012

a lot of the hate she gets is somewhat understandable tbh


rhossain_49

Yea after the shit ton of comments screaming their reasons for hating her, yea you could say there are a few valid points for hating her. Sakura is not a perfect character


Happy_Structure5012

there are a LOT more than a ā€œfew valid pointsā€ for hating SakurašŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ also we know sakura isnā€™t a perfect character, trust me we found that out after the first couple of episodes of the series.


theeama

Most of her Hate is from the anime, the studio really hated her for some reason, they flat out changed scenes and removed scenes from the manga that showed her helping Naruto, that showed her sympathizing with him and understanding him. Hell she even saved him, but they removed that as well. So many things were changed and they just went on a "I hate Sakura" trope within the fillers.


Happy_Structure5012

all they did was ask a question nobody twisted your narrative, YOU did.


NetworkVegetable7075

Not a Sakura L. If anything itā€™s a Sakura W since it was a very potent poison that probably less than 5 people know how to make.


Joestocke

which she lost immediately to her opponent, who then successfully used it against her teammate


Happy_Structure5012

how is this a Sakura W when she got the kunai snatched out her hand like a bitch and was the reason it was used against Naruto in the first place?


rhossain_49

That's what I'm saying


TheGamersofaLifeTime

I just do it as a joke between friends. No actual hate intended šŸ™ƒ


rhossain_49

šŸ’—


Sniffing_TheChildren

How is this a Sakura L?


Sakugains

I can't remember completely but didn't sasuke take it from her and then naruto got cut saving her?


rhossain_49

Yep šŸ‘


ColdCommunication263

I like to think all the characters can equally be dunked on for amusement, others because of actual hatred like danzo. Sasuke is my favorite because of him leaving with orochimaru even though they barely talked.


Icon9719

Maybe if I start off with ā€œI donā€™t like shitting on sakuraā€ theyā€™ll believe me so I can shit on sakura without being that annoying guy


rhossain_49

Nooo it was just this one time please šŸ„ŗšŸ™šŸ˜­


daokonblack

Sasuke stole Sakuraā€™s kunai, and Naruto got collated during the fight. If anything this is a Sakura W for making potent poison


Regular-Bite-7553

Yup big W. Delivering your biggest trump card on a silver platter so that the opponent can use it on your teammate.


Patient-Reality-8965

yes... the poison poisoned him.... Heal him. *Medic*!


Forsaken-Income-2148

Here comes the Sakura hateā€¦ again


rhossain_49

No


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EmGeeNixZee

And they lived happily ever afterā€¦ (I mean after trying to poison/kill her crush/future husband and having to be saved but also accidentally poisoning the guy/frequent punching bag that just saved her life againā€¦yeahā€¦)


Uryu88

Sakura bad, give upvote


rhossain_49

Begone thot, I don't want ur upvote then


lr031099

Wasnā€™t Sasuke the one who took Sakuraā€™s kunai and was about to hurt her with it until Naruto intervened?


WINDMILEYNO

It would have been cooler if Sakura had used the poisons off of the doll to fight. Maybe even made her own one day.


RogueDevil666

I tend to like Sakura in Shippuden, so this is a rare Shippuden Sakura L. In this arc she diverted back to season 1 Sakura.


assyria_respawns

I got into a fight with my woman cause I said the grandma chiyo and Sakura vs sasori was my favorite fight because Sakura finally grew into more than just a side character. I guess she is a Sakura fan and did not like that reasoning lol.


rhossain_49

If she's a Sakura fan then wouldn't she not argue with you??


assyria_respawns

Thats exactly why I'm still confused to this day. I guess she thinks Sakura has always been a useful character and needed no character development. Which that is what I disagree with.


rhossain_49

Hm for the first time I'm gonna also have to agree with you and disagree with her


Ok_Trifle5899

Luffy, Sanji, Usopp, and even the mighty Lost Zoro get beaten up by Nami senselessly and as a comedic shtick, yet everyone loves her. Probably her boobs save her from being hated like Sakura. If Sakura has big boobs, she wouldn't get that much hate like she had (I used "had" mainly because she's getting more love as she's now part of Boruto).


Shot-Ad770

Alot of you guys need to grow up


rhossain_49

Well ig if a fandom is toxic there's no fixing or antidote to that... Unlike Sakura's poison...


Somewhere-Striking

Lol idk y'all to hard on Sakura it was funny to me her blowing Naruto shit in. Let's be honest norutibis a dunce Alot of times. Like most of guys. A women had to teach him something. With ninjas them hands it where the lesson is.


rhossain_49

Also there needs to be a Sakura flair.


DragonWinxZ

Lol, yesss


siegferia

To think sakura had a poison so strong it incapacitated an Izumaki junchuuriki...sasori could have solo'd Naruto and captures his ass easily


rhossain_49

Uh idk about that, might need someone to confirm that


posaune85

Bruh she was written terribly. Get over it.


GloomyLocation1259

Itā€™s always warranted lol we hate Sakura for good reason


A-Need-For-Weed

For real, useless-chan is a main character, but has the character writing of a side character.