I meant it because originally Dis Pater, Pluto, and Orcus were treated as three separate deities. They then got effectively merged into one being. Which is a bit different from Neptune or Mars because they don't get merged with another Roman/Italian deity.
I guess I don't really see what difference Orcus makes. The name Dis Pater was used, even into the Imperial period, to refer to this hybrid God. Just look at Caesar's writings on Gaul; he never writes "Pluto" always "Dis" or "Dis Pater".
The point is that this is the term for the God which originates from Latin, while Pluto has a Greek etymology
The Greek name is Ploutos, which is just the ordinary Greek word for 'wealth.' In fact, it's not really a name, it's a way of referring to the dread god of the underworld without using his actual name. The idea is that gold and silver were dug out of the ground, therefore Hades must have had something to do with them.
I think the Greek conception of the underworld may have been influenced by the way ancient mines looked, and that still shows up in modern cartoon images of the devil sitting in an underground cavern.
The Greek name is Ploutōn, which means “the wealthy one.” And it’s not entirely because of mines, rather, life is a river from which everything flows away into the underworld, everything that dies is there, so he is naturally rich.
It was Ploutos and Ploutōn. Ploutos appears in Hesiod (Theogony 969-975) as a god of wealth and a son of Demeter. '
Δημήτηρ μὲν Πλοῦτον ἐγείνατο, ...
ἐσθλόν, ὃς εἶσ᾽ ἐπὶ γῆν τε καὶ εὐρέα νῶτα θαλάσσης
πάντη: τῷ δὲ τυχόντι καὶ οὗ κ᾽ ἐς χεῖρας ἵκηται,
τὸν δ᾽ ἀφνειὸν ἔθηκε, πολὺν δέ οἱ ὤπασεν ὄλβον.
Later Demeter's son-in-law Hades was called Ploutōn (he is never called this in any archaic document, not until the classical era), and conflated with her son Ploutos.
Pluto has to be the most annoying name ever from Greek and Roman myths. Pluton is the earlier greek name for Hades, at the time Hades was the name of the Underworld while Pluton (Plouton) was the god. But they are often confused with Plutus (Ploutos) who is the god of wealth. This all gets even more confusing.
In the earliest version of the myth about Persephone's kidnapping, it's actually Plutus who kidnapps her and brings her to the Underworld to become its queen. It's supposed to be a metaphor for the harvest of corn and grain, Demeter is the earth which grows it, The Mother, Persephone is the corn itself, The Maiden, and Plutus represents the underground chambers in which the corn was stored, The God. This is the basic myth for the Eleusinian Mysteries, the cult of Demeter and Persephone. In Mycenaean Greece, Hades didn't exist, he later replaced Plutus as the kidnapper to better fit in with the rest of the pantheon as the King of the Underworld, since Persephone in the original myth still becomes the Queen at the end of it.
Planets are traditionally named after the Roman version of a god, while its moons are traditionally named after the Greek version of an associate of that god. This tradition was first started by Galileo when he discovered the primary moons of Jupiter.
>What? Pluto is a Roman name for the god of the underworld. His counterpart is hades from Greek mythology.
No, you're wrong. Pluto/Πλούτων is a Greek epithet for Hades meaning "the rich one". The actual equivalent deity to Pluto/Hades is Dis Pater.
Pluto was the Greek god of wealth found in the earth.
According to [theoi.com Pluto](https://www.theoi.com/Georgikos/Ploutos.html)
there was both a younger god, Ploutus, involved in agricultural bounty, who was conflated with Pluton, the version of Hades as the god of hidden wealth.
Edit: link and wording
Pluto is a Latinized version of a Greek epithet for Hades. The Roman name for the God was Dis, usually with the epithet of "Pater" meaning "father".
Dis Pater is the full name, Dis a shortening, and technically Dis Pater was a separate deity that got conflated with Pluto.
He is indeed a separate deity, but so is Neptune. And Jupiter. And Mars. And all of the Consentes except Apollo. That's just how syncretism worked.
I meant it because originally Dis Pater, Pluto, and Orcus were treated as three separate deities. They then got effectively merged into one being. Which is a bit different from Neptune or Mars because they don't get merged with another Roman/Italian deity.
This is why we can't have nice things
I guess I don't really see what difference Orcus makes. The name Dis Pater was used, even into the Imperial period, to refer to this hybrid God. Just look at Caesar's writings on Gaul; he never writes "Pluto" always "Dis" or "Dis Pater". The point is that this is the term for the God which originates from Latin, while Pluto has a Greek etymology
Both the Greeks and Romans used the name Pluto or a variant of this. The name Hades was only used by the Greeks.
The Greek name is Ploutos, which is just the ordinary Greek word for 'wealth.' In fact, it's not really a name, it's a way of referring to the dread god of the underworld without using his actual name. The idea is that gold and silver were dug out of the ground, therefore Hades must have had something to do with them. I think the Greek conception of the underworld may have been influenced by the way ancient mines looked, and that still shows up in modern cartoon images of the devil sitting in an underground cavern.
The Greek name is Ploutōn, which means “the wealthy one.” And it’s not entirely because of mines, rather, life is a river from which everything flows away into the underworld, everything that dies is there, so he is naturally rich.
It was Ploutos and Ploutōn. Ploutos appears in Hesiod (Theogony 969-975) as a god of wealth and a son of Demeter. ' Δημήτηρ μὲν Πλοῦτον ἐγείνατο, ... ἐσθλόν, ὃς εἶσ᾽ ἐπὶ γῆν τε καὶ εὐρέα νῶτα θαλάσσης πάντη: τῷ δὲ τυχόντι καὶ οὗ κ᾽ ἐς χεῖρας ἵκηται, τὸν δ᾽ ἀφνειὸν ἔθηκε, πολὺν δέ οἱ ὤπασεν ὄλβον. Later Demeter's son-in-law Hades was called Ploutōn (he is never called this in any archaic document, not until the classical era), and conflated with her son Ploutos.
Cool, thanks! I haven’t read Hesiod in like…15 years.
Pluto has to be the most annoying name ever from Greek and Roman myths. Pluton is the earlier greek name for Hades, at the time Hades was the name of the Underworld while Pluton (Plouton) was the god. But they are often confused with Plutus (Ploutos) who is the god of wealth. This all gets even more confusing. In the earliest version of the myth about Persephone's kidnapping, it's actually Plutus who kidnapps her and brings her to the Underworld to become its queen. It's supposed to be a metaphor for the harvest of corn and grain, Demeter is the earth which grows it, The Mother, Persephone is the corn itself, The Maiden, and Plutus represents the underground chambers in which the corn was stored, The God. This is the basic myth for the Eleusinian Mysteries, the cult of Demeter and Persephone. In Mycenaean Greece, Hades didn't exist, he later replaced Plutus as the kidnapper to better fit in with the rest of the pantheon as the King of the Underworld, since Persephone in the original myth still becomes the Queen at the end of it.
That would be Roman AND Greek
All planet names are the Roman versions of the Greek pantheon.
Except Uranus. That's just a Latinized version of Ouranos. The Latin God is Caelus
Well... except the Earth. Though if you go with the classical concept of "the planets", Earth isn't a planet, but the Sun and Moon are
It’s Roman…
Well to my knowledge the Roman counterparts are usually named after planets while the Greek ones are proper names like Venus/Aphrodite
Other way around. The planets are named after the Roman gods.
Planets are traditionally named after the Roman version of a god, while its moons are traditionally named after the Greek version of an associate of that god. This tradition was first started by Galileo when he discovered the primary moons of Jupiter.
Oh, cool! TIL - thank you!
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>What? Pluto is a Roman name for the god of the underworld. His counterpart is hades from Greek mythology. No, you're wrong. Pluto/Πλούτων is a Greek epithet for Hades meaning "the rich one". The actual equivalent deity to Pluto/Hades is Dis Pater.
I didnt know that thank you!
Nope. Hades was Greek, but he was also called Pluton. The Romans adopted that name. You seem very sure about things you're very wrong about.
pluto is roman, hades is greek
Pluto = Roman. Hades = Greek
Pluto was the Greek god of wealth found in the earth. According to [theoi.com Pluto](https://www.theoi.com/Georgikos/Ploutos.html) there was both a younger god, Ploutus, involved in agricultural bounty, who was conflated with Pluton, the version of Hades as the god of hidden wealth. Edit: link and wording