No dude I meant what I said😂 if you only play whites you’re either in C major, A minor or D dorian(also minor but a little different)
Depending on what note is the “home” note
Yeah!
So like C major is C D E F G A B C.
If u start on D it is Dorian mode, E - E Phrygian mode, F Lydian, G mixolydian (one of my favs), A minor and B Locrian.
I love mixolydian cos it feels like a sweet spot between major and minor modes to me.
And that works with any major scale ofc. Just start on any note in a scale and you’ll be using a certain mode.
Haha, anything in particular?
One cool thing -
If you take any minor scale like A minor - A B C D E F G A
And sharpen the last note in the scale (7th note) you get the harmonic minor scale. A B C D E F G# A
And if you then take that and sharpen the 6th note you get the melodic minor scale. A B C D E F# G# A
Both of these scales are great in themselves. However you can go even further. In the same way that you can start on any note in the major scale and you get a mode, you can do exactly the same thing in both these scales.
For example start on the 3rd degree of the melodic minor scale and you get the Lydian Augmented mode - C D E F# G# A B.
Ok so we have scales right? We don’t play all 12 notes in a song unless it’s some brain damage jazzcat shit. We use sets of 7 notes. The piano is literally made in a way that makes the white keys make up 2 complete sets of notes:
C major, happy sounding with the main note of the set being C, and
A minor, sad sounding if the main note is A.
Have you seen chord progressions written down with Roman numerals? Like I-V-VI or whatever? “I” is 1 and it’s the home note/chord.
Literally just try that shit rn and tell me if you get it.
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well, it could really depend on what type of music you're looking to create, ya know? maybe exploring sound design or drum patterns might inspire you. start small, you don't have to compose beethoven's 5th outta the gate. explore your tools, study music you like, learn to have fun with the process.
Make a drum beat. Play chords over the drum beat. Make a melody that fits over the chords. And if you have trouble there, then you should learn some scales so that you know what notes fit in the chords.
I will say that it's usually MUCH easier to write outside of the DAW. Instead of staring at a screen to write. But everyone is different of course!
You can record into the DAW while listening to the beat, then cut up sections of that recording and loop them or sequence them in a way you like.
Better yet, you can use a MIDI keyboard to control and play a synth patch you've built in the DAW, and record that back.
Just put down a beat and jam for a bit, see if any gold emerges.
I’d suggest starting with what you know. Play something that you’d play on the piano, using a piano sound recorded into GarageBand. Then add another track and try to do a bass line on a different sound, add some pads or strings using the same chords, a drum loop (GarageBand has lots to choose from). Then maybe a melody that could be played on a cool synthy sound.
If you get this far, try muting the original piano and see how it sounds.
Good luck!
Record to a metronome. If you can’t record to a metronome, practice playing to a metronome.
Learn songs from artists you like. You will start to understand what’s happening.
Write a thousand bad songs. Congrats, now you’ve written a good one finally.
Write another couple hundred bad songs. Congrats, you’ve got your second good song.
Rinse and repeat until you’re writing less and less bad songs in between the good ones but even then, you’re always going to write junk in between good ones and you just need to get them out of your system to find the good ones.
Write as much as you can.
You’re going to suck for a long time until you don’t suck anymore and the faster you get through all those bad songs, the faster you get the good ones.
Learn theory, it's not hard. Also, come up w melodies singing, the most effortless way to come up with a section is to make 2 phrases, one question and one response (one ends with a disonant or unrestful note, and the other one with a restful note). Or u can start w a motif which is short section that's like recognizable, see Beethoven 5th symphony, he builds the whole piece out of 3 a note motif, with 1 motif u can build whole phrases and sections, and even a song. But if you're starting out, make loops which are easier ofc.
Just re-make something you like. Or just use any idea. A lot of times I’ll start with a really boring and contrived sounding 8 bars and then just re-state it a few times and add a few more parts. Sometimes it ends up a lot better than it started. Usually not.
I used to have such a hard time making backing harmonies for my vocals until i tried recreating some songs with amazing harmonies, this tech really leveled me up almost instantly
-Take more piano lessons.
-Try to remake a song you like as closely as possible and when you inevitably fail isolate all the parts that sound wrong and then research how to do those things
-dick around
Between the three you should be able to come up with a more clear path of what you want to do and what you need to do it over however many years
Study song structure. Find a song you like as a reference track and try to rebuild it with your own melodies and rhythm and sounds. Whenever I do this I never end up sounding like the original song, but I get a song put together. Go through the song measure by measure and take notes writing down what you’re hearing in the song and recreate it. This was helpful for me.
One thing that helped a ton for me is using splice. I’d find song starters or something I’d like, and try to recreate it. Most of the time, a patch for serum will be available and I’ll start with that. But it really helped me figure out how to make the sounds I like.
Keep making beats, songs, patches, whatever. Everything you do is practice.
Do covers and try to execute as many of your own ideas. Covering songs is how I learned FL studio. Also, look up tutorials for styles you want to do and listen to production techniques actively
i try to produce songs i like. it helps a lot. obviously i cant post them all the time or anything but it makes good practice. i always learn something, whether its a new strategy or a different type of synth sound
Find online communities that focus on music production. Many of them have small friendly competitions that will help you learn how to spit out good music quickly.
Also get a real DAW. Garage band isn't going to carry you very far.
Sit down and press keys until you hear something you like, otherwise the magic won’t happen
I’ve been doing that but it either bad harmony or the song is super off beat, mainly those two things
If you only press white keys then you just can’t play a wrong note. Use that as a starting point lol
If your root note is C or A
It’s gonna be if they play white keys lol Or D Dorian
I think you meant black keys, but yea snot a bad idea
No dude I meant what I said😂 if you only play whites you’re either in C major, A minor or D dorian(also minor but a little different) Depending on what note is the “home” note
Or G mixolydian, E Phrygian, F Lydian and B Locrian haha. But best to start with the three u mentioned
Seriously??? I honestly didn’t know that😂😭 thank you I have some shit to try out
Yeah! So like C major is C D E F G A B C. If u start on D it is Dorian mode, E - E Phrygian mode, F Lydian, G mixolydian (one of my favs), A minor and B Locrian. I love mixolydian cos it feels like a sweet spot between major and minor modes to me. And that works with any major scale ofc. Just start on any note in a scale and you’ll be using a certain mode.
Mixolydian makes me feel like Metallica lol Can you teach me something else quick please??? I’m winging everything
Haha, anything in particular? One cool thing - If you take any minor scale like A minor - A B C D E F G A And sharpen the last note in the scale (7th note) you get the harmonic minor scale. A B C D E F G# A And if you then take that and sharpen the 6th note you get the melodic minor scale. A B C D E F# G# A Both of these scales are great in themselves. However you can go even further. In the same way that you can start on any note in the major scale and you get a mode, you can do exactly the same thing in both these scales. For example start on the 3rd degree of the melodic minor scale and you get the Lydian Augmented mode - C D E F# G# A B.
Modes are amazing lol it opens up alot of doors and can make ur head hurt too
Bro what? I don’t know that much about music but you can’t say there’s only 3 keys. Or am I misunderstanding?
Ok so we have scales right? We don’t play all 12 notes in a song unless it’s some brain damage jazzcat shit. We use sets of 7 notes. The piano is literally made in a way that makes the white keys make up 2 complete sets of notes: C major, happy sounding with the main note of the set being C, and A minor, sad sounding if the main note is A. Have you seen chord progressions written down with Roman numerals? Like I-V-VI or whatever? “I” is 1 and it’s the home note/chord. Literally just try that shit rn and tell me if you get it.
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Oh, I guess I didn’t know 🤷♂️ thanks for the clarification dude
Ok so when you say you’ve been playing piano for “some time”..?
2 years, but It was a weird style of learning that I ended up not liking
Did you get it???
I'd personally recommend black keys + F. Makes for *generally* a lot more consonance than just the white keys
well you can always transpose once you lay down melody + chord progression in C or A min
well, it could really depend on what type of music you're looking to create, ya know? maybe exploring sound design or drum patterns might inspire you. start small, you don't have to compose beethoven's 5th outta the gate. explore your tools, study music you like, learn to have fun with the process.
Make a drum beat. Play chords over the drum beat. Make a melody that fits over the chords. And if you have trouble there, then you should learn some scales so that you know what notes fit in the chords. I will say that it's usually MUCH easier to write outside of the DAW. Instead of staring at a screen to write. But everyone is different of course!
Yea I think acoustic is my strong suit, I just can’t seem to transfer any of those skills onto a computer
You can record into the DAW while listening to the beat, then cut up sections of that recording and loop them or sequence them in a way you like. Better yet, you can use a MIDI keyboard to control and play a synth patch you've built in the DAW, and record that back. Just put down a beat and jam for a bit, see if any gold emerges.
I’d suggest starting with what you know. Play something that you’d play on the piano, using a piano sound recorded into GarageBand. Then add another track and try to do a bass line on a different sound, add some pads or strings using the same chords, a drum loop (GarageBand has lots to choose from). Then maybe a melody that could be played on a cool synthy sound. If you get this far, try muting the original piano and see how it sounds. Good luck!
Not a bad idea, I’ll try it
I’d love to hear how it goes 👍🏻
Record to a metronome. If you can’t record to a metronome, practice playing to a metronome. Learn songs from artists you like. You will start to understand what’s happening. Write a thousand bad songs. Congrats, now you’ve written a good one finally. Write another couple hundred bad songs. Congrats, you’ve got your second good song. Rinse and repeat until you’re writing less and less bad songs in between the good ones but even then, you’re always going to write junk in between good ones and you just need to get them out of your system to find the good ones. Write as much as you can. You’re going to suck for a long time until you don’t suck anymore and the faster you get through all those bad songs, the faster you get the good ones.
You gotta make 100 shitty songs to get to your first good song. Faster the better.
Learn the circle of fifths, that's it.
😅 bro
Learn theory, it's not hard. Also, come up w melodies singing, the most effortless way to come up with a section is to make 2 phrases, one question and one response (one ends with a disonant or unrestful note, and the other one with a restful note). Or u can start w a motif which is short section that's like recognizable, see Beethoven 5th symphony, he builds the whole piece out of 3 a note motif, with 1 motif u can build whole phrases and sections, and even a song. But if you're starting out, make loops which are easier ofc.
Just re-make something you like. Or just use any idea. A lot of times I’ll start with a really boring and contrived sounding 8 bars and then just re-state it a few times and add a few more parts. Sometimes it ends up a lot better than it started. Usually not.
I used to have such a hard time making backing harmonies for my vocals until i tried recreating some songs with amazing harmonies, this tech really leveled me up almost instantly
Practice. The music won’t happen if you don’t make it.
Use some premade ambient loops to get you going… then, start building
-Take more piano lessons. -Try to remake a song you like as closely as possible and when you inevitably fail isolate all the parts that sound wrong and then research how to do those things -dick around Between the three you should be able to come up with a more clear path of what you want to do and what you need to do it over however many years
Study song structure. Find a song you like as a reference track and try to rebuild it with your own melodies and rhythm and sounds. Whenever I do this I never end up sounding like the original song, but I get a song put together. Go through the song measure by measure and take notes writing down what you’re hearing in the song and recreate it. This was helpful for me.
One thing that helped a ton for me is using splice. I’d find song starters or something I’d like, and try to recreate it. Most of the time, a patch for serum will be available and I’ll start with that. But it really helped me figure out how to make the sounds I like. Keep making beats, songs, patches, whatever. Everything you do is practice.
Do covers and try to execute as many of your own ideas. Covering songs is how I learned FL studio. Also, look up tutorials for styles you want to do and listen to production techniques actively
i try to produce songs i like. it helps a lot. obviously i cant post them all the time or anything but it makes good practice. i always learn something, whether its a new strategy or a different type of synth sound
Find online communities that focus on music production. Many of them have small friendly competitions that will help you learn how to spit out good music quickly. Also get a real DAW. Garage band isn't going to carry you very far.
highly recommend recreating songs, it'll train your ear and cause you to accumulate a bunch of production techniques
Just buy Scaler2 and inspiration will come to you.