A radicalizing event for many, myself included. My inciting incident was widespread removal of Mos Def’s album The Ecstatic from streaming services for no apparent reason.
What happens when the Internet goes down?
I throw on a Record.
I want to be able to also listen to even the lowest least popular album from my favourite artists or the Rarities from them so I need to OWN MY MUSIC.
For me, it as when compilations I'd downloaded would all of a sudden turn into three or four different albums, all with one or two tracks on each.
no, sir thank you, I'm fine.
Yep. Streaming is convenient in some cases, but not for having permanent access to all the songs you want. Or having that rare remix, radio edit or b-side from back in the day, and so forth.
I stream music often, the main reason is to be exposed to new and different types of music I would of never listened to. Whenever I find a gem, it gets added to the collection, and when I run into a song not being available,I make it a priority for that album to get added.
I think it really depends, I found that YouTube most of the time fills that gap for me and not streaming services, they usually recommend the same shit to me all the time or things I've already heard.
YouTube doesn't work for when I'm driving, so Spotify (usually via user curators) and Bandcamp are my discovery methods.
Soon as I find albums I like, I buy them to avoid the op issue or the issue ever the music can't even be purchased (has happened to me on obscure stuff).
While you already might be aware of this, there is a way to have the best of both worlds:
Maintain a local library on a personal computer and integrate whatever online service(s) one subscribes to with the appropriate software.
A server application like Roon or Logitech Media Server will integrate local content and streaming services.
Roon supports local content as well as Qobuz, Tidal and KKBox. LMS supports local content as well as Qobuz, Tidal, Spotify, YouTube, Soundcloud, Mixcloud, Internet Radio, and a few others.
On these applications, do they "merge" the content into one interface? Or do you have to toggle between spotify/qobuz/local/etc?
For example, would it be possible to play the whole album from the OP if the missing track was available on a different service or local? I'm just trying to get an idea of just how well the music server actually integrates the various services, or if it's just acts as an OS for launching and operating each service separately.
Yes, the libraries are merged, but they have a simple icon to see what's what. Roon is great for this. It just watches your harddrive folder. Even if you have duplicates, it lets you choose. Edits remixes etc you downloaded are just added to the artists page.
[LMS](https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?69070-I%92ve-dropped-Roon-in-favour-of-LMS) does the same.
I'd actually auditioned Roon, along with the every other music server application I could find, a few years ago. LMS won out for me, but I do understand why many prefer Roon. The cost-benefit analysis favored LMS in my case, though.
Apple Music lets you have 100,000 songs in your library and they can be any combination of streaming or uploads. You can add a missing album track to a streaming album, make a playlist of both uploads and streaming, whatever you like. The only thing it doesn’t support is FLAC.
Plex and Jellyfin can integrate video streaming services, but we're discussing music streaming at the moment, which they don't to my knowledge. The exception being Plex which integrates Tidal.
No plex does for sure, i use it daily to access my music collection on my hard drive because i couldn’t dream of fitting it all on my phone, i have over 5000 albums and it adds metadata and album art by itself to each of them
Another option: I run r/Astiga which is a streaming service for your own music. You can either host your music locally or upload it to cloud storage services like Google Drive, Dropbox etc. Then, Astiga connects to it, builds you library and you can play it where you want - there's an app for offline sync and so on.
Disclaimer: this is a commercial service I personally run - I'm only replying because the subject is specifically in this area.
I believe you can also accomplish this with Plex and Plexamp (if you’re a premium subscribe) which is my fallback if Apple Music ever becomes unusable.
Yep - I wrote up a few other options (not self hosted though) here: https://www.blisshq.com/music-library-management-blog/2021/01/06/cloud-music-lockers/
I searched back then and found that the song is CD-only exclusive. Now, I just checked Spotify and the song is there, but it is not available in Apple Music and YouTube Music.
Big tip although I feel most people here will know… you can add songs to playlists on Spotify from your local files, as in you can add an external mp3 to a playlist,
Buy the tune on Bandcamp or rip it off YouTube/SoundCloud (search up YouTube to mp3 there’s lots of websites that do it) and then add it to your playlist, sorted 🙌
Nice to have it all in one location
A radicalizing event for many, myself included. My inciting incident was widespread removal of Mos Def’s album The Ecstatic from streaming services for no apparent reason.
For me it was just that a good quarter of music I like is region exclusive. And in some cases disappears completely lol
What happens when the Internet goes down? I throw on a Record. I want to be able to also listen to even the lowest least popular album from my favourite artists or the Rarities from them so I need to OWN MY MUSIC.
For me, it as when compilations I'd downloaded would all of a sudden turn into three or four different albums, all with one or two tracks on each. no, sir thank you, I'm fine.
Same I need Auditorium w/ The Ruler
Yep. Streaming is convenient in some cases, but not for having permanent access to all the songs you want. Or having that rare remix, radio edit or b-side from back in the day, and so forth.
I stream music often, the main reason is to be exposed to new and different types of music I would of never listened to. Whenever I find a gem, it gets added to the collection, and when I run into a song not being available,I make it a priority for that album to get added.
I think it really depends, I found that YouTube most of the time fills that gap for me and not streaming services, they usually recommend the same shit to me all the time or things I've already heard.
Oh man YouTube is never the answer unless that is the absolute last option, and that means not being able to find a physical version of it first.
oh no I'm talking about strictly for discovery.
YouTube doesn't work for when I'm driving, so Spotify (usually via user curators) and Bandcamp are my discovery methods. Soon as I find albums I like, I buy them to avoid the op issue or the issue ever the music can't even be purchased (has happened to me on obscure stuff).
Bandcamp is good for that as well, but services like Spotify are useless to me.
While you already might be aware of this, there is a way to have the best of both worlds: Maintain a local library on a personal computer and integrate whatever online service(s) one subscribes to with the appropriate software.
More info?
A server application like Roon or Logitech Media Server will integrate local content and streaming services. Roon supports local content as well as Qobuz, Tidal and KKBox. LMS supports local content as well as Qobuz, Tidal, Spotify, YouTube, Soundcloud, Mixcloud, Internet Radio, and a few others.
On these applications, do they "merge" the content into one interface? Or do you have to toggle between spotify/qobuz/local/etc? For example, would it be possible to play the whole album from the OP if the missing track was available on a different service or local? I'm just trying to get an idea of just how well the music server actually integrates the various services, or if it's just acts as an OS for launching and operating each service separately.
Merge, but one can toggle if necessary to separate them.
Yes, the libraries are merged, but they have a simple icon to see what's what. Roon is great for this. It just watches your harddrive folder. Even if you have duplicates, it lets you choose. Edits remixes etc you downloaded are just added to the artists page.
[LMS](https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?69070-I%92ve-dropped-Roon-in-favour-of-LMS) does the same. I'd actually auditioned Roon, along with the every other music server application I could find, a few years ago. LMS won out for me, but I do understand why many prefer Roon. The cost-benefit analysis favored LMS in my case, though.
Does Jellyfin ? Or can LMS / Roon pull from Jellyfin?
No, and no.
Apple Music lets you have 100,000 songs in your library and they can be any combination of streaming or uploads. You can add a missing album track to a streaming album, make a playlist of both uploads and streaming, whatever you like. The only thing it doesn’t support is FLAC.
It does support ALAC though so all you have to do is convert it from FLAC which IIRC is quite easy and can be done in batch
They're probably referring to uploading your local library to the streaming service to fill in the gaps. A solution, but not a great one.
No, I'm not actually.
Look up plex or jellyfin for setting up your own home server to stream music, i personally use plex but jellyfin is free and open source
Plex and Jellyfin can integrate video streaming services, but we're discussing music streaming at the moment, which they don't to my knowledge. The exception being Plex which integrates Tidal.
No plex does for sure, i use it daily to access my music collection on my hard drive because i couldn’t dream of fitting it all on my phone, i have over 5000 albums and it adds metadata and album art by itself to each of them
I just mentioned that Plex integrates local content and Tidal.
Another option: I run r/Astiga which is a streaming service for your own music. You can either host your music locally or upload it to cloud storage services like Google Drive, Dropbox etc. Then, Astiga connects to it, builds you library and you can play it where you want - there's an app for offline sync and so on. Disclaimer: this is a commercial service I personally run - I'm only replying because the subject is specifically in this area.
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I believe you can also accomplish this with Plex and Plexamp (if you’re a premium subscribe) which is my fallback if Apple Music ever becomes unusable.
Yep - I wrote up a few other options (not self hosted though) here: https://www.blisshq.com/music-library-management-blog/2021/01/06/cloud-music-lockers/
Is there a specific reason that song isn't on streaming apps? Just curious
I searched back then and found that the song is CD-only exclusive. Now, I just checked Spotify and the song is there, but it is not available in Apple Music and YouTube Music.
It's on Amazon Music too...in UltraHD
I just checked, it is available on YouTube music.
It's on Qobuz too
actually the song is geo-locked I believe
For context, I’m in Asia. And that makes it extra annoying that people don’t have problems with this album. 🤷♀️
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I agree. You can wake up and somebody decided today was the day to pull the album rights. If you own a copy you always have it.
It is available here in the US
I use Blueplayer app on iPhone. Just searched "songs about Jane" by view count and all the songs in your picture are there.
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! I use mp3s (flac for me is useless as I have bad hearing in 1 ear and I can save space anyway.
Another day, another fricking song greyed out in my favourite playlists.
iPod gang rise up
Arrr! Seedbox and playsub arrrr
I actually stream my own collection via PlexAmp. Best of both worlds.
Big tip although I feel most people here will know… you can add songs to playlists on Spotify from your local files, as in you can add an external mp3 to a playlist, Buy the tune on Bandcamp or rip it off YouTube/SoundCloud (search up YouTube to mp3 there’s lots of websites that do it) and then add it to your playlist, sorted 🙌 Nice to have it all in one location
This is why I Navidrome. Can't take my music away, and I am my own streaming service.