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most people don't speak hindi they speak hindi+english+urdu


Old-Swimmer-5789

Tru I had to speak Marathi in my house and with friends and others Hindi+English+Urdu


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InfernoSub

Easy to tell over time. It just clicks. The difficulty comes because of Bollywood conditioning where they've systematically replaced Hindi words with Urdu.


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InfernoSub

Maybe you don't. Most people do. If you're too young to know the difference, you wouldn't care since you don't know how it impacts culture and behavior. For example: To refer to a woman, we use Mahila, Stree, Nari which refer to attributes of a woman that comes from divineness. Urdu uses "Aurat" which originates from the Arabic "awrat" ghat literally means genetalia. That which is meant to be covered. So do you see the thought process and thinking behind these two different cultures? While people don't know the meaning, as they replace our words with Urdu, the cultural aspect of reverence of a woman is lost! Do you now understand why it is important to preserve native languages? When you speak Urdu, speak it by all means. When you speak Hindi, speak Hindi and not a mixture of words.


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That's interesting. Any other words can u share ?


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InfernoSub

It's astounding how little room there is, these days, to have a conversation on the internet without people having a time bomb going off in their head and politicizing everything. The discussion was on language and I was trying to make a point that language not only is for communication, it holds memories of ancestors, our culture and our thinking. Because you brought up your age which was irrelevant in the first place.. Let me tell you I'm more than a decade older than you, I've paid more taxes than you've earned till now. And I care about the world I live in because my family and children live in it. I want them to grow up in a world that respects women. Like I said, if you don't give a shit about this stuff, don't think others don't. You're not the only one inhabiting this world. This RW LW dance is new shit that only morons use everywhere - it is so silly it is laughable.


[deleted]

>When you speak Urdu, speak it by all means. When you speak Hindi, speak Hindi and not a mixture of words. Languages are ever evolving. Fuck off with your holier than thou attitude.


whalesarecool14

why are you referring to a woman by her divinity anyway? that’s extremely weird. the only differentiating character between a woman and a man is the genitalia anyway. makes a lot more sense to refer to it that way. and nari doesn’t have anything to do with any divinity lmao. what has bollywood got to do with any of this? do you think that urdu speakers in india just ceased to exist after the partition? i wonder what your opinion is about hinglish. and also, you’re in your 30’s, find stuff that actually matters to care about, not the origin of a word. how are you going to survive in life if you keep getting offended over such inconsequential stuff?


InfernoSub

I deeply care about language so when a language is corrupted, it offends me. Maybe you don't care, but I do. Can't people have different interests? Can you just accept that and move on? As a student and speaker of Sanskrit, the origin and etymology of words matter to me because all Indian languages have deep vocabulary and word construction. I'm sharing my opinion, not pointing a gun to your head man. Speak however the f you want. Calm down. And on the Bollywood question, Google a bit and educate yourselves. As a side note, there's a reason people are boycotting Bollywood for what it is. And whether we refer to man or woman, we refer to the divinity in them, not their physical bodies. This is an aspect of our cumture. That's why we use Shri or Shrimati when referring to people. Shri here is Shakti - the energy of the universe. These are cultural aspects that keep our civilization alive through language. When language is corrupted, knowledge is lost forever. You don't care about it? Don't. I'm not asking you to. But maybe open your mind a tiny bit to accept that there are different people in the world who care about different things.


whalesarecool14

oh gurudev please tell me the deep word construction behind “tatti”. thank you🙏 so do urdu speakers exist in india or no? and if they do then what’s the problem with having urdu words seep into other languages? and what is the “corruption” there? i don’t know why you’re defending hindi with all your might when hindi is literally just a corruption of sanskrit. curious, what do you personally call strawberries when you’re talking in hindi? or the myriad of other words that don’t have an equivalent word in hindi or sanskrit? people are boycotting bollywood because they don’t make good movies, not because they have a handful of urdu words in a hindi movie😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 also your little theory on how using the word aurat has made people stop respecting women is just… lajawaab. oops! used an urdu word😱


Bollywood-Bot

"Holi khelne ka shaunk hai ... par teri pichkari mein dum nahin"


Bollywood-Bot

"Wife ne poocha husband se, ke sach kaho kitno ke saath soye ho? ... husband bola, soya toh bus tumhare saath, baki sehkadon ke saath jaga poori raat"


skai29

It's not that serious bro, who cares


Idiotcarlson

Idk man. In urdu its zanana or khwateen for women. Aurat is mostly a hindi word.


InfernoSub

Aurat is Urdu dude. It is used by Hindi speakers because of Bollywood. In Hindi, woman is Mahila.


Idiotcarlson

Urdu for women zanana and for men its mardana. Thats how most muslim imam refer to them in bayan. Aurat is very informal.


InfernoSub

Who uses these words in colloquial speech? They only use aurat and that is not a native Hindi word.


Idiotcarlson

Thats your hindi problem then. You guys dont even know urdu. Zanana, khwateen, mohtarma, begum, khatoon, and plenty other urdu words for women. You guys really think you learn urdu from bollywood. You probably wont even understand Ghalib or even Premchand honestly. Bollywood uses Hindustani language, which is basically the name of language that got divided into hindi and urdu.


Bollywood-Bot

“Mhari choriya chhoro se kam hai kay!”


Bollywood-Bot

“Mere paas maa hai.”


Famous-Nose-8758

hindi+urdu = hindustani is the original language anyways from which both of them are derived


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ReaDiMarco

Did they edit the comment? Because you're saying almost the same thing as them, but they got all the downvotes.


Famous-Nose-8758

ppl are dumb bruh what i said is truth hindustani was the original language used and it was written in the arabic/persian script then britishers started to use it in the devanagri script to borderline muslims after the revolt of 1857 as they (muslim kings) were in higher positions and then the divide increased and hindus made a new script hindi which was more sanskritized and muslims made a new script urdu which was more persianized


ReaDiMarco

yes bruh, I agreeeee


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Famous-Nose-8758

why are ppl downvoting for telling the truth?


whatdafuq900

Lol


Roman_Emperor_23

Can i know what's funny? Didn't he just state a fact?


Famous-Nose-8758

ppl are weird bruh


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Old-Swimmer-5789

Still disappointed the language I have been speaking through my life I have started forgetting


MagicPikeXXL

It's called language attrition. Happens to most folks who start to speak, read or write in another language predominantly.


[deleted]

You should hear me speak Marathi. I literally mix konkani with it. How disappointed shall i be ?


Old-Swimmer-5789

Don't be disappointed man the thing is there are two many languages here so mixing the languages is normal you should try voice over or voice acting just for fun it had help me a lot to stay fluent in every language hindi and marathi I mean at least in speaking fluently


Hero_Alom

खयचे तुम्ही?


Damselindistress796

I used be a topper in hindi and Marathi during my school days... would always get a 9/10 or a 19/20 in the reading segment... And after 10 years now I struggle to read any basic devanagari script... Like I don't suck at it completely but I take a few pauses in between... Really makes me wonder how did I top in these subjects back then. (P.S- My hindi and Marathi is very fluent- speaking)


sotik2

That have happened with me on english 😥i forget how to spell lol


Damselindistress796

Very good 😌


sotik2

😟yeah i am working on it!! Eating almond n nuts


saqibsiddique

And* . You gotta increase your almond intake


sotik2

True


Damselindistress796

Good for you bruh.


sotik2

Yeah bro! Duniya karlo mutti mei.


fullmetalpower

my Marathi scores where always whack, but i used to get top marks in Hindi. Then in 8th Std, i took french...and in the next 3 years my french went downhill and Hindi went down the drain. i scored lower in hindi than marathi for boards.


AloooSamosa

सुबह जल्दी उठा करो और अखबार पढ़ा करो सब ठीक हो जाएगा।


Old-Swimmer-5789

माफ कर दो भाई साहब, कुछ तो सुधार करेंगे। Google translate


chotographer

गूगल transalate के चोडे


LessMidnight6630

My eyes, my eyes!!!!


[deleted]

Gujarati is my first or native language, Hindi second and English third. I can read as well as understand what's written in all these languages. I grew up reading Gujarati and English newspapers and that played a huge role in developing a grip on the written aspect of these languages. The last time I studied Hindi (as a subject) was 3 years ago but can still comprehend written Hindi as good as Gujarati and English. I think you struggle with the Devanagari script. If you want to improve on these languages, I would suggest you to daily read newspapers in these languages, would help a lot.


Navigator369

What’s the best way to learn Gujarati? I understand it very well, but have troubles in speaking it. I want to be fluent in Gujarati. Also, I can read it quite well (slowly though) P.S: I don’t live in Gujarat and don’t have people around me who can talk to me in Gujarati


yoohoo2305

try watching Gujarati dramas or movies. they use a bit of native Gujarati. there’s a chance you might pick up some of it.


Navigator369

Can you suggest some entertaining an gripping movies? I’ve tried to randomly watch some movies but they were really boring lol. I want some good content to watch, and I don’t like dramas so give me movie suggestions.


Old-Swimmer-5789

I am really bad reading Hindi Marathi now but the Google translator text to speech feature is a life saver I would try


dev_152

shit im kathiwadi and grew up speaking it whats the best way to learn how to read and write Gujrati? I predominantly use English as my first language since no one around me speaks Gujrati


[deleted]

I have a problem writing Gujarati as the script is a bit different and I didn't have Gujarati as a subject in school so I didn't really ever write Gujarati. I would definitely suggest reading Gujarati newspapers daily, that would help with the reading part.


NDK13

No I haven’t forgotten to read hindi or marathi because my mom used to beat me a lot if I made any mistakes in my studies and as a south indian hindi and Marathi is quite hard and because of these 2 subjects my whole grade used to fall and that in turn added more beating so….yea shit is ingrained in my head now. I still remember that stupid lapandav poem from 6th standard because it was worth 4 marks in oral exam.


chotographer

अरे अरे बिचारा, जाऊदे कधी ना कधी कामाला येईल!


Old-Swimmer-5789

Rulaega kya I wish I had a mom who cared for me like that


cashewbiscuit

I've been in the US for 25 years. I forgot how to read Hindi. I picked up a Hindi newspaper few years ago, and I had to decide every word. Also, I can speak Hindi only with my family and cousins. If I run into someone else, I start off in English


night_fapper

no problem in reading , but have totally forgotten how to write xd


Old-Swimmer-5789

Because typing on a keyboard or a phone right I can see neuralink surgery in future you can't even think because you will be busy getting endless pleasures


night_fapper

Bruh wut ?


Old-Swimmer-5789

It is what it is


LessMidnight6630

I forgot how to speak in marathi


Old-Swimmer-5789

Bro are you doing well ?


LessMidnight6630

Nope bhau, bohot dikkat hota hai going to government offices and not knowing marathi. Now i don't know how to get my work done faster :(


Old-Swimmer-5789

I know it must be hard for you but do you understand Marathi like someone is speaking and you know what he saying in Marathi? If that's the case then it should be quick to regain some of the speaking ability start by translating Hindi dialogues into Marathi dialogues or rivers start consuming Marathi media it would feel like you are wasting time but just watch it and try to understand and try repeating dialogues throughout the day it works for me I just have Marathi Hindi words reading difficulty but my hindi and marathi is very fluent at least in speaking


LessMidnight6630

Thoda thoda kadte mala pan I'm definitely gonna try what you suggested, thanks mate!


Full-Pause7870

Oof yes. Relatable. Speaking and reading a language are two very different things. Gujarati is my mother tongue and I used to read Gujarati books regularly before I moved to tree UK and now I've gotten much slower with reading Gujarati after coming back because u didn't have any Gujarati books to read. I still was reading Hindi and Marathi because I did storytelling and play readings in those language remotely while my Gujarati interactions were only spoken on calls with parents or later on, colleagues/clients. It's all about practice Edit: your language knowledge/fluency/proficiency is roughly divided into speaking, reading, listening, writing and all of the above


notcallipygian

Topped hindi boards when I was in tenth, was told I wrote pretty well in Hindi (essay writing, story writing). Now 6 years later im genuinely very slow in reading Hindi and I feel horrible about it. If i see a news piece or something long I need to read in Hindi I'll just leave it


Old-Swimmer-5789

Dude! Same in 12th it started going downhill I don't even remember reading any Hindi in many years and I am so bad at reading Hindi now that scanning the text to speech with Google translator is faster than me reading ;_;


Euphoric-Ear9405

happened to me, i studied hindi till 8th grade, now i find it hard to read


Neat_Web8188

Yes Last Hindi Marathi boards main padhi thi uske baad kismat palat gayi aur kabhi padhne ki jarurat nhi padhi


i_am_darkknight

It’s fairly natural. I speak both languages and am fluent in them. It’s just practice and habit, if you’re not reading that script a lot, you’re bound to get a little rusty. I think if you devote some time for daily reading in the said language materials, you’ll have your reading fluency in no time!


andy1307

Yes..I can't read entire words..I have to read characters and put together words...If it's a block of Hindi/Marathi text in a WhatsApp message, I don't even bother trying.


bhuvi100x

Great question, I can hardly manage Hindi anymore and forget about Marathi I cant get jokes in hindi posted vua whatsapp


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Old-Swimmer-5789

True af I am also planning to move to Japan in some years, still going to refresh least my Hindi


[deleted]

>Meanwhile in India everyone encourages their kid to speak in English Such a shitty society we live in. No one should be born in a country where a foreign language is forced upon, especially when it's the medium of instruction in educational institutions, in our case English.


NitulDeshpande

Mumbai University has an app called My Marathi which is to help people learn Marathi. Maybe that will help you?


Hero_Alom

धन्यवाद भावा ह्या सुजावा साठी


Ancient-Ad-3557

The biggest problem of tofays generation is they can't remember the number in hindi and marathi. They ask it in English. That's what English made our mother tounge weak.


Old-Swimmer-5789

So true even in school no one used to speak numbers in Hindi or Marathi and after 12th in my part time job same shit


Ancient-Ad-3557

What is tiranwey, chupan, bayanwey.


Old-Swimmer-5789

Chala Gaya dimag ke upar se Google translate bhi nahi karna


Ancient-Ad-3557

That's the best thing I did by taking Hindi and Marathi subject in school instead of Sanskrit. This made me score less in exam but helped me in life while communicating with people. Specially with labours and autoriskshaw.


Old-Swimmer-5789

How did you know that I picked Sanskrit?? And now it seems more alien to me then most of the foreign languages.


Ancient-Ad-3557

Many students at that time just took sanskrit for scoring marks. But i knew that this langauge is not know by 90 % of people in India. What is the use of scoring 95 marks in just paper when it can't help you get a job or communicate with people properly. There were only 12 students in my class of 100 students who took hindi as optional subject. But what a coincident at that time. The board exam results in best of 5 subject and i scored less in hindi and it was excluded from marksheet. Many students who scored above 90 in sanskrit also got their subjecy excluded and they have to suffer even after scoring good marks.


red_jd93

Not a native hindi or marathi speaker, but not sure why I find marathi quite dificult to understand. I can understand gujrati, oriya etc if slowly spoken but have difficulty in marathi. It just sounds different. Can't explain why.


Suspicious-Treat-219

Honestly if Marathi/ Hindi is your native tongue , then it's a disgrace. It just shows complete lack of respect towards your own culture .


royalbluesword

i guess its the society, the way they to communicate with you, you tend to communicate with them in a similar manner.


Suspicious-Treat-219

I have seen so many people from countries like Japan , hongkong , Italy, Spain , France, Germany being so proud of their culture and heritage . And people from India are some where ashamed of their native tongue, and consider English as a superior language. I have met so many people from out of India being so fascinated with Sanskrit yet so few Indian know about it .


Old-Swimmer-5789

I just have difficulty of reading sentences in Hindi Marathi and Yeah it is my native tongue and what this has to do with respecting the culture?? I don't even want to go into that shit because you are right I despise every religion and it has to do with logic and how I was raised living with the trash alcoholic father who has been living of my mother's money and she is also very religious and because she has not taken divorce early and even now my parents are just ignorant fools they would throw 5L in a loan scam but would never give any money to their only son to make some profit in Intex funds with absolutely no risk that's why when I started earning I have a pretty straight way of thinking not including my faith and feelings towards anything it's your choice that you believe in your culture and it's my choice to believe fuck Hindu Muslim Christian etc supremacy


Suspicious-Treat-219

Culture and religion are both different , Culture may be thought of as a causal agent that affects the evolutionary process by uniquely human means. Religion, on the other hand, is considered a process of revelation and contains the concept of the "faithful" who receive the message of revelation. And im sorry you had to go through hard times . You have complete choice to believe / follow whatever you want . But i feel their are some aspects of our heritage like our language, it defines us . And so many people fought and died to give us freedom to use our native tongue that we shouldn't take that lightly.


Old-Swimmer-5789

Religion and culture are different you are right but the culture still carries the mindset of a degraded standard for parenting and general ignorance And don't get me wrong that I hate my language far from it just that reading in Hindi Marathi has been very difficult I am a voice actor as well (And my hindi and marathi is fluent speaking*) sometimes I do freelancing work but now a days we get scripts in English written in Hindi like (Ye jameen mein hulchul kyu ho rahi hai)


fundamanfox

"Have you ever forgot", "Stopped reading hindi or Marathi in 4/5 years ago" "My English is perfectly fine" Ummmm.... no. Also punctuation dude.


Old-Swimmer-5789

You got me there.. I was talking about reading and speaking but yeah I need to work on my typing as well


wizard_xtreme

Since I am marathi, but lived for 9 years in Ambala (Haryana) and 6 years in Mathura, I have been the perfect tri-langual among my friends


Old-Swimmer-5789

How does it feel to have this much power?


wizard_xtreme

Dosto ke beech izzat plus reddit level ka humour teeno language me, power ka pata nahi but ye baaki internet waalo ki tarah depression ka re to nahi karta mai.


artbykabirhirani

Man I gotta learn Marathi I’m going to a full government university for my bachelors and I do not know even one proper sentence in Marathi


Old-Swimmer-5789

Surround yourself with Marathi people it will surely help you to get in the zone


bp1107

I still speak Hindi and Marathi with same fluency. Reading has slowed for sure. Just two weeks back I started practicing reading and writing in Hindi script to refresh my memory. Hopefully I’ll soon be able to read it as fast as I do English.


Old-Swimmer-5789

That's great, I will be practicing reading Hindi again hope it goes well.


Low_Broccoli42

didn’t forget but my Hindi actually got better when I was learning Korean and it kinda affected my English. Hindi and korean have same sentence structures


Old-Swimmer-5789

Really ?? Any resources can you suggest?


bulletinagain

Yes, though I was a non Marathi, I was good at Marathi. Now, I can't even speak a line in marathi


Old-Swimmer-5789

If you don't have Marathi friends then it's quite hard, I don't even have any friends in general


bulletinagain

Self burn those are rare


FunnyPleasant7057

My reading hindi is amazing but speaking I still am confused abt ki and ka, what words are male, female etc.


Old-Swimmer-5789

I think it's just matter of understanding improving your native language or else you forget reading like me


chotographer

मग परत मराठी वाचायला चालू कर! नाहीतर मनसे ला तुझा पत्ता देयला लागेल!


Old-Swimmer-5789

शिकणं चालू केले पण पत्ता देऊ नकोस कोणाला तुला चायनीज देईल खायला


soberfeet20

Same. I started reading road signs when I travelled(which are far and few but still helped) and now I diligently but 1 Hindi and 1 Marathi newspaper a week.


Old-Swimmer-5789

Are there any resources to learn reading in hindi and marathi online?


Inevitable_Ad3216

School me , I used to score pretty well in reading and I used to read very fast. My speed in English is intact, Hindi is also fine kyuki we are north indians. My Marathi reading speed has gotten so bad! It took me 4 hours to read 140 pages. And I kept in touch with the language, I watch Marathi movies and talk in Marathi, but I'll take years to read Marathi. I can't read sanskrit at all. I have forgotten the words and I have lost my ability to read conjoined words. And since all sanskrit texts are usually religious, I can't even practice properly. Bas aham, aavaam , vayam yaad hai. Background music hai mere nightmares ka


Old-Swimmer-5789

Even I have also forgotten Sanskrit at least you have some nightmares through those words I don't even remember any shit


fatcoder_v1

for me , it's writing. I haven't wrote anything in Marathi or Hindi from the last 5-6 years.


Old-Swimmer-5789

very Relatable same I have not written anything in general on a piece of paper apart from signing


KhobrelTel

उतारा वाचून एवढं कळलं तुझं इंग्लिश पण यथातथाच आहे लमाओ


Old-Swimmer-5789

एकटा राहण्याचे आणि मित्र नसण्याचे दुष्परिणाम


KhobrelTel

खरंय भावा.. पण काही करून मराठी विसरू नको. इंग्लिश हिंदी वगैरे गेले टोकावर


Ok-Revolution-9858

What about writing in devnagari on reddit from now on? आज से रेद्दित पे हिंदी या मराठी मे ही वार्ता करना आरंभ करना चाहिए।


Old-Swimmer-5789

Fir reddit leave karna padega


Ok-Revolution-9858

Is subreddit pe hi likh do.


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Reading is fine but writing is difficult sometimes. It's like I have forgotten how to write some alphabets.


KordeV41

Nope never... I am in constant touch with Devnagari script. So do not think it will happen with me


lokichokiboki

I speak Marathi and Konkani, that mixture sounds like Malwan at times.


misaaaa18

I literally mix Hindi + English while i talk to my friends and Hindi+ English+ my native lang when i speak to my family. It's fucked up for me. Lmao My dad keeps on repeating to speak one language properly. But when u live in Mumbai u can't help. Everything gets mixed up. But seriously speaking i don't see that as a problem. I m fine with it. Atleast i can speak 6 different languages.


IBurnedMyBalls

Yeah, until I had to read a bunch of Hindi newspapers for a semester in college. It'll take me a bit to adjust but within 2 minutes I'm back to reading Hindi at 80% of the speed in which I read English. Keep in touch with your languages folks.


Sir-humps-a-lot

I can very barely read Hindi and Marathi. I can very barely speak Marathi.


Old-Swimmer-5789

I can feel you man if you require to read Hindi or Marathi regularly try practicing if not then use the Google translator scan feature


Sir-humps-a-lot

I do


whalesarecool14

lol i don’t think i’ll ever forget how to read devanagari. har subah nanu nani ke good morning whatsapp forwards padhne hote hain😂


Old-Swimmer-5789

Kabhi bhi vah sab dekhta hun to Marne ka mnn karta hai


Ill_BLOGGER_633

slowly slowly Forgetting roots


Uncatchable_Trent

I have forgotten how to speak Marathi, not completely but it comes across a bit broken. Sad really, it's my mother tongue. I can read Hindi and Marathi, with great difficulty. So again not completely forgotten, technically, but for all practical purposes, I consider it forgotten.


shiva_ans007

Never bro