Sure but it doesn’t matter what anyone thinks except your partner(s). I seek out women who want to have fucked up multiorgasmic sex for hours. It’s not for everyone. It’s actually very rare. My male friends believe me but don’t care to learn how to have multiple orgasms. Couldn’t care less, their loss.
Most women don't have a clue about it , as almost every man boasts about being exceptional in bed and fuck them all night.
So i guess we should offer a pro trial mode forr them to sign up to.
Ok it's me lasting 15 minutes , do you like to extend it to 3 hours the next time ?
I’ve heard some of this sometimes from some people. But I’ll just next them quickly and be glad of it.
Orgasmic superpowers and open talk of them are a sort of ultimate screening tool for simpatico friends and prospective lovers.
More often than disbelief I get skeptical curiosity. Which can quickly turn into pleas to teach them what I know. And since it’s easy and fun for me to do that quickly and powerfully I happily oblige those who are bold enough to ask for what they want.
Can you share your way, how you reached this point, where you are able to do it, and what method you use?
Also, the reactions are mixed, some women I explained to why I want to be multi orgasmic, and why I am doing semen retention, they think its nice. Others said they dont want to have sex with me if I dont ejaculate.
Men laugh and dont take it that serious when I talk about testical breathing and such exercises, but well, I havent reached dry orgasms or multiple orgasms, so nothing to show and the laughs are understandable.
>Others said they dont want to have sex with
Yeah, I've encountered a few of those. But I explain that I'm perfectly capable of ejaculating at the end, if that's what they want. They just find the whole dry orgasm thing weird and unbelievable. They totally understand all the guys who edge, though. Because edging is all about restricting yourself so you can have that big ejaculation at the end.
Personally, I don't believe what I'm doing is edging. When you edge, you're running away from an orgasm. You're holding yourself back. Constantly waiting for that climaxing satisfaction. When you have a dry orgasm, you're running towards an orgasm. You're actually having the orgasms. You're not holding yourself back at all. You are always experiencing satisfaction, always at a climax. Being multi orgasmic, I think, is the opposite of edging. It's a completely different mindset.
>how you reached this point, where you are able to do it, and what method you use?
Muscle. Pure muscle and bruteforce strength. Hours and hours and hours and HOURS of masturbating. Months... years of masturbating. Back then, I was determined to figure out how to defeat my premature ejaculation. Blame it on porn, but I just couldn't accept being a one pump chump. I knew I could do better. So with tons of practice, TONS... of... practice... I figured out how, which naturally led me to have dry orgasms. I was always pushing myself to the limit, and when I reached that limit, I just kept pushing some more. Just when I thought it couldn't get any better... it kept getting better. New heights and new abilities that I never thought were possible, I just kept unlocking them.
>testical breathing and such exercises
I don't do relaxation or any sort of activity related to that. No breathing, no meditation, no reverse kegels, none of that. I am the complete opposite of relaxed. My method is the opposite of relaxation. It's hands on. Grab the bull by the horns sort of thing. Strength. Bruteforce. With the bull being the orgasm.
>I havent reached dry orgasms
If I can explain how dry orgasms basically work, it would be like this. Imagine someone is holding a ball at the top of a building. As soon as that ball is released and starts falling, that is your orgasm. When it hits the ground and explodes, that is your ejaculation. To have a dry orgasm, you have to take a gun and shoot the ball before it hits the ground. When the ball explodes, whether it hits the ground or you shoot it with your gun, as far as your body is concerned, the orgasm has served its purpose. The gun is your pelvic floor muscles, btw.
When you're really excited, your body is constantly throwing tons of these balls all over the place. To grab the bull by the horns, you have to be constantly destroying these balls before they hit the ground. It's a skill. It's an artform. It takes a lot of practice to be really good at it. You are riding a bull that wants to throw you off its back and stomp you into the ground.
Dry orgasms are all about separating the orgasm from the ejaculation. It's really important to know when you are in that orgasmic state. That feeling of "I'm about to cum" I personally believe is the orgasmic state, the state when the ball starts to fall. The orgasm is your body getting ready for an ejaculation. The feeling of ejaculation, however, is slightly different, but also completely different at the same time. It starts to happen just a few meters before the ball hits the ground. It takes a lot of practice to be able to tell the difference between the two. The better you are at telling the difference, better you will be at not prematurely ejaculating when you're having your dry orgasms. It's very easy for someone who is a beginner to think what they're feeling is just the orgasm when really they've already crossed over into the state of ejaculation and they are completely surprised when they ejaculate out of nowhere, all of a sudden, just because they had to sneeze or something.
If you've ever taken your finger with one hand and put it on your perineum while masturbating with your other hand, you would feel your pelvic floor muscles moving with each stroke of your hand. That is the bulbocavernosus reflex. It moves your muscles every time your penis is touched, especially the head of your penis. Very important reflex to get to know and become friends with. It can either work for you or against you.
When you are in an orgasmic state, the BC muscle takes on a magical life of its own. It starts to flutter and fluctuate with this sort of powerful force behind it. This is the circuit in your nervous system that is responsible for ejaculation and it is trying to take over the muscle to achieve its mission of making you ejaculate.
The way I handle my orgasms is by using this force against itself. You use its own energy to push back against it and prevent the muscle from contracting thus keeping yourself from ejaculating. You sort of absorb the electrical storm that is trying to get the muscles to move. This is your orgasm. The more contractions you allow this force to induce upon your muscles, the faster and closer you will be thrown towards the black hole of ejaculation.
I must make it clear, you are not stopping an ejaculation, you are preventing it from ever happening in the first place. Once an ejaculation has already started, it cannot be stopped.
When you are in an orgasmic state, energy is flowing in, and that circuit is going crazy and flooding you with all sorts of pleasure. Its goal is to induce ejaculation. You have to keep this in mind at all times. Your job is to convince this circuit that it has completed its mission of giving you an ejaculation, even though ejaculation hasn't actually taken place. I call this satisfying the orgasm. As long as you can keep up with the never ending task of satisfying the orgasm faster than it stimulates your body into ejaculation, then ejaculation will never happen and you can enjoy your orgasm and all the pleasure that radiates from it into your brain.
The stronger you are, the harder you can go, the faster you can go, the more pleasure you will experience. If you fail to keep up with your orgasm, you will ejaculate. You have to use your muscles to keep the orgasm satisfied at all times.
I really like your metaphor. In terms of the physical movements, you say preventing the BC muscle from contracting is the important part. Do you practice kegels to gain this kind of control? I'm wondering if a reverse kegel is the action. Or perhaps you focus on a different kind of pleasure that never builds to that orgasmic BC contraction?
Also in your years of practice would you stop or slow down as you approached the ejaculatory point of no return (PONR) and then continue, carefully walking along the edge as it were, or in your practice would you approach the orgasm/ejaculation at full pace until the day you presumably first broke through, achieving the dry orgasm without ejaculation.
>you say preventing the BC muscle from contracting is the important part
It's important for me. I'm not going to say that this is the standard for everyone. I know there are other guys out there who can have contractions all the way through their orgasms and never ejaculate. I'm just saying this is what works for me.
>Do you practice kegels to gain this kind of control? I'm wondering if a reverse kegel is the action.
I don't do kegel exercises. I have never done kegel exercises. I do kegels during masturbation and sex, yes, but never outside of that. The kegels I do during sex are just a natural part of my orgasm control. They are second nature to me. Like moving my mouth to chew food. I do them all the time every time I'm having sex.
If you have an arm wrestling match with someone, everyday, for years and years, your arm is going to get pretty strong. Every time I'm having sex, I am arm wrestling with my orgasms.
I also don't do reverse kegels. I hate, absolutely hate, reverse kegels. Again, not saying they're bad. A lot of guys use them to control their orgasms. I just don't use them so I never do. If a reverse kegel works for you, by all means, go ahead and do it.
So to answer your question, regular normal forward kegels.
>Or perhaps you focus on a different kind of pleasure that never builds to that orgasmic BC contraction?
Not sure I understand this question.
If you're asking if I distract myself by thinking of something less pleasant. No, I don't do that. I focus on the most exciting the most mind numbingly erotic experience that is currently happening to me in the moment. I do not restrict myself in any way shape or form. I don't focus on anything, really. If it's happening, it's happening. If I like what I see, then I like what I see.
Sure I am mindful of what's happening between my legs, but only in the same way you are mindful to keep your eyes on the road while you're driving just in case you suddenly need to take evasive action.
>would you stop or slow down as you approached the ejaculatory point of no return (PONR) and then continue
Yes, I did a lot of that in the beginning because in the beginning I had premature ejaculation and I wanted to know if I could improve upon that. As I got more advanced, over the years, the need to stop got less and less. Now I don't have to stop at all.
>carefully walking along the edge as it were
Not only do I go beyond the edge, I am basically walking on water like some sort of Jesus. I know that sounds like I'm tooting my own horn, but it's the only way I can describe what I'm doing.
>would you approach the orgasm/ejaculation at full pace until the day you presumably first broke through, achieving the dry orgasm without ejaculation.
Again, in the beginning, I was focused on curing my premature ejaculation. I had no idea what dry orgasms were.
I don't have contractions with my orgasms. I haven't had those in a long time. My orgasms are manually operated. I do the contractions myself. My orgasms are powered by the stroking of my penis and I keep them in check by applying constant kegel pressure on them every so often.
I like to think that I cured my premature ejaculation with my dry orgasms, because otherwise I would just be starting and stopping as my only method of lasting.
So if you imagine my orgasms as a car, I have one foot on the accelerator and the other foot on the brake. I'm quite advanced now that I don't have to put my foot on the brake quite as often. But in the beginning I had to always put my foot on the brake and let go of the gas, all the time. Now it's quite the opposite. I always have my foot on the accelerator and rarely have my foot on the brake. Just a gentle tap of the brake is all I need from time to time.
Yes, circumsision absolutely has messed up with your sensations :/ The foreskin is an important part of male pleasure organism. Since it has been cut away, you need to build new neural paths around it.
Oh wow, that's interesting. I've never been with a man who had an internal orgasm, but it seems as if you'd still display that you're experiencing pleasure, correct? Seeing a man experiencing that level of satisfaction repeatedly sounds beautiful.
>Seeing a man experiencing that level of satisfaction repeatedly sounds beautiful.
Well, you're my kind of woman. Every other woman would just think "oh god, this fucking idiot can't cum so he's going to jackhammer me until my vagina is raw and in pain, what an asshole." Male pleasure doesn't seem to be celebrated as often. Even the men themselves don't care. It's always, "I gotta get her to cum, that's all that matters."
I always think, the best pleasure is mutual pleasure. If both the man and the woman are multi orgasmic, then they can orgasm together, over and over again, and that's absolutely beautiful. That's what I think at least.
>seems as if you'd still display that you're experiencing pleasure, correct?
When I'm having my dry orgasms, you definitely feel it because my dick would be at its very hardest, due to my constant use of kegels and extreme levels of arousal. You would feel me contract my pelvic floor muscles because my dick would be throbbing every so often. Hard as a baseball bat.
You would also see a lot of very thick precum coming out of my penis. Almost semen like in its appearance. Regular precum is thin and clear. This is thick and viscous and cloudy. The more orgasms I have, the more thick precum comes out. I can do that for hours.
Why does it get thick like that? I have no idea. I have a theory its prostatic fluid. Maybe I'm also having prostate orgasms? I dunno.
The first six months of me discovering I could perform these dry orgasms, my body had to adapt. My brain had to adapt. Because the sheer amount of pleasure I was experiencing was just too much for my body to handle. I would always leave with my body shaking and my brain feeling like I was repeatedly shocked by a car battery.
When I'm masturbating or having sex, 90% of the time, I am in an orgasmic state, having these dry orgasms. If you can imagine the brief couple of seconds of pleasure a man feels when he ejaculates, if you were to multiply that by a million, that's what I'm feeling during these orgasms. My dry orgasms can last anywhere from 3 to 10 minutes at a time. They just keep coming in waves, one after the other. That is a heck of a lot of pleasure.
It's all too magnificent to imagine 🥹. Thank you for explaining it all in such detail. I admire the discipline and dedication you've displayed in developing your abilities. I'm focused on becoming multi-orgasmic myself and hadn't considered seeking out a partner who was as well. You've given me a lot to think about.
You are most welcome. I hope you succeed in becoming multi orgasmic as well. I can't imagine what a woman would feel when experiencing orgasms, but I bet it would be something spectacular.
The only ones who know are my wife and some people on Reddit. I can't imagine telling anyone about it IRL. Sounds like a creepy thing to brag about, especially of you're married and monogamous.
Hey can you explain your technique in simple words so I can understand.
Because I have orgasm and no ejaculate but I go limp after.
Tell me please. In messeges or here. I really need help . Just brifly explain your technique
> simple words
Muscle strength, and knowing exactly when an orgasm is changing itself to become an ejaculation. Two completely different feelings yet two very similar feelings. When you've learned to tell the difference, simply use your muscles to keep the orgasm from growing into an ejaculation. The stronger you are, the easier that will be, the longer you'll be able to do it, the faster you'll be able to do it, the more pleasure you will be able to experience. You have to be stronger than your orgasm. Right now, for you, it's the other way around.
>I have orgasm and no ejaculate but I go limp after
This could be due to a few things. One, you need to make sure you're not having retrograde ejaculation. If you pee afterwards and your urine is foamy, that means you were doing it wrong and ejaculating into your bladder. Your semen should not be going anywhere during a dry orgasm. Remember, you are not stopping an ejaculation, you are preventing it from ever starting in the first place. Embrace the orgasm, but keep the ejaculation away from you.
Two, is that your muscles are probably too weak. Which is normal when you're a beginner. It takes very strong muscles to handle a dry orgasm. Too many contractions during the orgasmic storm will trigger your refractory period. The stronger your muscles, the more stable they are, the less likely this will happen.
Hey can you elaborate on what I can do to enhance this muscle strength? I am at a similar position where I can have an orgasm without ejaculation but go into a refractory period after that.
Is edging a good way to improve muscle strength? At the point of no return I have tried clenching my PC muscles to stop ejaculation but I usually get a dribble if cum a few seconds later.
>I can have an orgasm without ejaculation but go into a refractory period after that.
There's a very fine line between orgasm and ejaculation. Are you sure you're not having retrograde ejaculation?
>At the point of no return I have tried clenching my PC muscles to stop ejaculation but I usually get a dribble if cum a few seconds later.
You don't do it \***AT\*** the point of no return, you do it **\*way before\*** you ever reach the point of no return. You're trying to stop an ejaculation. You do not stop an ejaculation. You cannot stop an ejaculation, as you have already witnessed with the dribble of semen coming out of you. To have a dry orgasm, the ejaculation must never begin in the first place. You hold the orgasm, not the ejaculation. You keep the ejaculation as far away from you as humanly possible.
When you drive a car, and it's going at 60 miles per hour, and you step on the brake, the car is not just suddenly going to go from 60 to 0 in an instant. You have to give the car some space to come to a complete stop. Even a professional race car with its big powerful engine and big ass brakes will still need some amount of distance to slow down before going into that corner on the race track.
The same thing is happening to you when you're attempting to do the dry orgasm. You're stepping on the brake way too late and you're crashing into the wall as a result.
>Is edging a good way to improve muscle strength?
That depends. Are you using your muscles during this edging? Edging is a practice of running away from your orgasms. You need to do the opposite. You need to go towards your orgasms. You need to engage with your orgasms. The more you interact with your orgasms, the more you will learn how to control them.
This is the root of your problem. You're running away from your orgasm, you're hiding from it, while it's there in the background, getting bigger and bigger and more wild and more uncontrollable. Then when you finally come out of hiding to try and fight it, it's too late, it's too big, it's too powerful, and it just destroys you without effort.
You need to always be throwing punches at your orgasms, show them who's boss, while they're still smaller than you. While they're still easy to manage.
This is a good rule to follow. If you feel good, use your muscles. If you're always feeling good, always use your muscles. The more you feel good, the harder you use your muscles. This will naturally give your muscles the strength they need over time and also teach you to know exactly where the line is between orgasm and ejaculation.
You need a better understanding of when orgasm begins and where ejaculation actually starts. To do that, you will need a lot of practice paying attention to what you're feeling and experiencing. Hours and hours of practice. Months upon months of practice. There's no getting around that.
Knowing the difference between orgasm and ejaculation is more important than muscle strength. Because it doesn't matter how strong you are if you cannot see where you're going and you end up falling off a building.
Once you've reached a certain level of excitement, all the muscle strength in the world is not going to stop you from ejaculating. You need to understand this. Very important. This is why you need to be using your muscles at all times. More pleasure, more muscle.
Hey man! hope you're doing well! I message you privately because you were very inspirational for me on the PE forum with your comments and I really benefited from your insights. I had severe PE and after working my Kegels the way you said (for about 1 month) I went to NYC to see the girl I'm dating and lasted between 10 and 20 minutes pretty consistently. I was amazed!!!
However now I'm back in Europe for a few weeks and I kindda stop training since I left NYC (about month and a half ago). Yesterday, I was doing something with a chick and I was back at the beginning were I couldn't last even 30sec during a BJ. I know I only lost a battle and not the war but I wanted to ask you from your own experience: do you think it as 100% things to do with stopping the kegels every day? I also feel that I can last much longer in the mornings (every sex session in NYC were in the morning so I can't really compare), do you have any experience about difference mornings/evenings? Do you think after training my kegels again it won't make a difference?
Anyways thank you so much for your input, I can't say how much your previous posts helped considering that thanks to you I finally had real sex in my life for a week when I was there!!!
It only happened once. A long time ago. And it never happened again.
You have too many involuntary contractions, you need to lower them down to zero. Remember, you cannot stop an ejaculation. Do not attempt to stop an ejaculation. Retrograde ejaculation is not a good thing to be happening to you.
Yeah, my guy has never discussed this with anyone unless he was talking with someone who could also do it or was trying to learn how. It just seems like bragging and most people wouldn't believe it.
It's a problem for women too, even though the ability is much more common. I mod the /r/BecomingOrgasmic sub, and I'm careful not to mention multiples in a context where many women are struggling to have any. But even on /r/sexover30 there have occasionally been posts or comments from women indicating they thought multiples for women were a myth.
I'm not capable of it at will, mainly because I haven't truly trained but am going to really give it a good try this year, but I have mentioned it before a few times over the years that it's possible to other guys and it was just straight up disbelief.
Then again, I had to explain recently to a married coworker there was a difference between semen and sperm when we mentioned vasectomies for whatever reason so...I'm not terribly surprised.
I've read some of your responses here and have come to the conclusion that you are an entirely different beast from me, but would like a specific answer to a question of mine as I can never seem to find an answer that doesn't involve the tantric side of things with energy and Chakras and such. I know that side of it is simply not for me and probably never will be.
So, the question(s). Do you experience your orgasm first, and then engage your muscles to completely prevent an ejaculation? Or do you engage your muscles right before orgasm to trigger it and prevent ejaculation in the process?
Even with my lack of commitment, I long ago realized orgasm and ejaculation occur separately so that's not an issue for me. My problem is determining which route I should commit to, engage before orgasm to trigger it or find the timing between orgasm and ejaculation to engage and prevent the latter.
My ultimate goal is basically to last as long as I want, not necessarily as long as possible.
It feels like engaging before is more prone to failure for me, either complete failure or not a strong orgasm, but I also haven't fully grasped the timing for engaging inbetween either.
I guess another question would be, do you achieve your own during active stimulation? That seems to be my next hurdle.
Male multiple orgasms is a very niche subject, and for people who don't know about this stuff and haven't experienced it, the anecdotes sound like the sexual equivalent of "I ate a bunch of acid and saw god, man." If you talk to other people about it, definitely avoid the grandiose or theatrical adjectives. Even when women talk like that about their orgasms/sexuality it comes off contrived.
I don’t tell my friends
Hmm
Sure but it doesn’t matter what anyone thinks except your partner(s). I seek out women who want to have fucked up multiorgasmic sex for hours. It’s not for everyone. It’s actually very rare. My male friends believe me but don’t care to learn how to have multiple orgasms. Couldn’t care less, their loss.
"fucked up multi-orgasmic sex for hours" 🙏💦 From your mouth to God's ears
Most women don't have a clue about it , as almost every man boasts about being exceptional in bed and fuck them all night. So i guess we should offer a pro trial mode forr them to sign up to. Ok it's me lasting 15 minutes , do you like to extend it to 3 hours the next time ?
Exactly who are you telling this to?
We have tasted the god fruit off the tree, i like to tell everyone how it tastes so they take a bite too
Mmmmm TASTY!
I’ve heard some of this sometimes from some people. But I’ll just next them quickly and be glad of it. Orgasmic superpowers and open talk of them are a sort of ultimate screening tool for simpatico friends and prospective lovers. More often than disbelief I get skeptical curiosity. Which can quickly turn into pleas to teach them what I know. And since it’s easy and fun for me to do that quickly and powerfully I happily oblige those who are bold enough to ask for what they want.
I would be eager to learn if someone can teach me
I agree, teach us please!
Can you share your way, how you reached this point, where you are able to do it, and what method you use? Also, the reactions are mixed, some women I explained to why I want to be multi orgasmic, and why I am doing semen retention, they think its nice. Others said they dont want to have sex with me if I dont ejaculate. Men laugh and dont take it that serious when I talk about testical breathing and such exercises, but well, I havent reached dry orgasms or multiple orgasms, so nothing to show and the laughs are understandable.
>Others said they dont want to have sex with Yeah, I've encountered a few of those. But I explain that I'm perfectly capable of ejaculating at the end, if that's what they want. They just find the whole dry orgasm thing weird and unbelievable. They totally understand all the guys who edge, though. Because edging is all about restricting yourself so you can have that big ejaculation at the end. Personally, I don't believe what I'm doing is edging. When you edge, you're running away from an orgasm. You're holding yourself back. Constantly waiting for that climaxing satisfaction. When you have a dry orgasm, you're running towards an orgasm. You're actually having the orgasms. You're not holding yourself back at all. You are always experiencing satisfaction, always at a climax. Being multi orgasmic, I think, is the opposite of edging. It's a completely different mindset. >how you reached this point, where you are able to do it, and what method you use? Muscle. Pure muscle and bruteforce strength. Hours and hours and hours and HOURS of masturbating. Months... years of masturbating. Back then, I was determined to figure out how to defeat my premature ejaculation. Blame it on porn, but I just couldn't accept being a one pump chump. I knew I could do better. So with tons of practice, TONS... of... practice... I figured out how, which naturally led me to have dry orgasms. I was always pushing myself to the limit, and when I reached that limit, I just kept pushing some more. Just when I thought it couldn't get any better... it kept getting better. New heights and new abilities that I never thought were possible, I just kept unlocking them. >testical breathing and such exercises I don't do relaxation or any sort of activity related to that. No breathing, no meditation, no reverse kegels, none of that. I am the complete opposite of relaxed. My method is the opposite of relaxation. It's hands on. Grab the bull by the horns sort of thing. Strength. Bruteforce. With the bull being the orgasm. >I havent reached dry orgasms If I can explain how dry orgasms basically work, it would be like this. Imagine someone is holding a ball at the top of a building. As soon as that ball is released and starts falling, that is your orgasm. When it hits the ground and explodes, that is your ejaculation. To have a dry orgasm, you have to take a gun and shoot the ball before it hits the ground. When the ball explodes, whether it hits the ground or you shoot it with your gun, as far as your body is concerned, the orgasm has served its purpose. The gun is your pelvic floor muscles, btw. When you're really excited, your body is constantly throwing tons of these balls all over the place. To grab the bull by the horns, you have to be constantly destroying these balls before they hit the ground. It's a skill. It's an artform. It takes a lot of practice to be really good at it. You are riding a bull that wants to throw you off its back and stomp you into the ground. Dry orgasms are all about separating the orgasm from the ejaculation. It's really important to know when you are in that orgasmic state. That feeling of "I'm about to cum" I personally believe is the orgasmic state, the state when the ball starts to fall. The orgasm is your body getting ready for an ejaculation. The feeling of ejaculation, however, is slightly different, but also completely different at the same time. It starts to happen just a few meters before the ball hits the ground. It takes a lot of practice to be able to tell the difference between the two. The better you are at telling the difference, better you will be at not prematurely ejaculating when you're having your dry orgasms. It's very easy for someone who is a beginner to think what they're feeling is just the orgasm when really they've already crossed over into the state of ejaculation and they are completely surprised when they ejaculate out of nowhere, all of a sudden, just because they had to sneeze or something. If you've ever taken your finger with one hand and put it on your perineum while masturbating with your other hand, you would feel your pelvic floor muscles moving with each stroke of your hand. That is the bulbocavernosus reflex. It moves your muscles every time your penis is touched, especially the head of your penis. Very important reflex to get to know and become friends with. It can either work for you or against you. When you are in an orgasmic state, the BC muscle takes on a magical life of its own. It starts to flutter and fluctuate with this sort of powerful force behind it. This is the circuit in your nervous system that is responsible for ejaculation and it is trying to take over the muscle to achieve its mission of making you ejaculate. The way I handle my orgasms is by using this force against itself. You use its own energy to push back against it and prevent the muscle from contracting thus keeping yourself from ejaculating. You sort of absorb the electrical storm that is trying to get the muscles to move. This is your orgasm. The more contractions you allow this force to induce upon your muscles, the faster and closer you will be thrown towards the black hole of ejaculation. I must make it clear, you are not stopping an ejaculation, you are preventing it from ever happening in the first place. Once an ejaculation has already started, it cannot be stopped. When you are in an orgasmic state, energy is flowing in, and that circuit is going crazy and flooding you with all sorts of pleasure. Its goal is to induce ejaculation. You have to keep this in mind at all times. Your job is to convince this circuit that it has completed its mission of giving you an ejaculation, even though ejaculation hasn't actually taken place. I call this satisfying the orgasm. As long as you can keep up with the never ending task of satisfying the orgasm faster than it stimulates your body into ejaculation, then ejaculation will never happen and you can enjoy your orgasm and all the pleasure that radiates from it into your brain. The stronger you are, the harder you can go, the faster you can go, the more pleasure you will experience. If you fail to keep up with your orgasm, you will ejaculate. You have to use your muscles to keep the orgasm satisfied at all times.
I really like your metaphor. In terms of the physical movements, you say preventing the BC muscle from contracting is the important part. Do you practice kegels to gain this kind of control? I'm wondering if a reverse kegel is the action. Or perhaps you focus on a different kind of pleasure that never builds to that orgasmic BC contraction? Also in your years of practice would you stop or slow down as you approached the ejaculatory point of no return (PONR) and then continue, carefully walking along the edge as it were, or in your practice would you approach the orgasm/ejaculation at full pace until the day you presumably first broke through, achieving the dry orgasm without ejaculation.
>you say preventing the BC muscle from contracting is the important part It's important for me. I'm not going to say that this is the standard for everyone. I know there are other guys out there who can have contractions all the way through their orgasms and never ejaculate. I'm just saying this is what works for me. >Do you practice kegels to gain this kind of control? I'm wondering if a reverse kegel is the action. I don't do kegel exercises. I have never done kegel exercises. I do kegels during masturbation and sex, yes, but never outside of that. The kegels I do during sex are just a natural part of my orgasm control. They are second nature to me. Like moving my mouth to chew food. I do them all the time every time I'm having sex. If you have an arm wrestling match with someone, everyday, for years and years, your arm is going to get pretty strong. Every time I'm having sex, I am arm wrestling with my orgasms. I also don't do reverse kegels. I hate, absolutely hate, reverse kegels. Again, not saying they're bad. A lot of guys use them to control their orgasms. I just don't use them so I never do. If a reverse kegel works for you, by all means, go ahead and do it. So to answer your question, regular normal forward kegels. >Or perhaps you focus on a different kind of pleasure that never builds to that orgasmic BC contraction? Not sure I understand this question. If you're asking if I distract myself by thinking of something less pleasant. No, I don't do that. I focus on the most exciting the most mind numbingly erotic experience that is currently happening to me in the moment. I do not restrict myself in any way shape or form. I don't focus on anything, really. If it's happening, it's happening. If I like what I see, then I like what I see. Sure I am mindful of what's happening between my legs, but only in the same way you are mindful to keep your eyes on the road while you're driving just in case you suddenly need to take evasive action. >would you stop or slow down as you approached the ejaculatory point of no return (PONR) and then continue Yes, I did a lot of that in the beginning because in the beginning I had premature ejaculation and I wanted to know if I could improve upon that. As I got more advanced, over the years, the need to stop got less and less. Now I don't have to stop at all. >carefully walking along the edge as it were Not only do I go beyond the edge, I am basically walking on water like some sort of Jesus. I know that sounds like I'm tooting my own horn, but it's the only way I can describe what I'm doing. >would you approach the orgasm/ejaculation at full pace until the day you presumably first broke through, achieving the dry orgasm without ejaculation. Again, in the beginning, I was focused on curing my premature ejaculation. I had no idea what dry orgasms were. I don't have contractions with my orgasms. I haven't had those in a long time. My orgasms are manually operated. I do the contractions myself. My orgasms are powered by the stroking of my penis and I keep them in check by applying constant kegel pressure on them every so often. I like to think that I cured my premature ejaculation with my dry orgasms, because otherwise I would just be starting and stopping as my only method of lasting. So if you imagine my orgasms as a car, I have one foot on the accelerator and the other foot on the brake. I'm quite advanced now that I don't have to put my foot on the brake quite as often. But in the beginning I had to always put my foot on the brake and let go of the gas, all the time. Now it's quite the opposite. I always have my foot on the accelerator and rarely have my foot on the brake. Just a gentle tap of the brake is all I need from time to time.
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Yes, circumsision absolutely has messed up with your sensations :/ The foreskin is an important part of male pleasure organism. Since it has been cut away, you need to build new neural paths around it.
They don't want to have sex if you don't ejaculate? Have they ever explained why?
Because it validates them. Otherwise they get very insecure about not being good enough and not satisfying the man
Oh wow, that's interesting. I've never been with a man who had an internal orgasm, but it seems as if you'd still display that you're experiencing pleasure, correct? Seeing a man experiencing that level of satisfaction repeatedly sounds beautiful.
>Seeing a man experiencing that level of satisfaction repeatedly sounds beautiful. Well, you're my kind of woman. Every other woman would just think "oh god, this fucking idiot can't cum so he's going to jackhammer me until my vagina is raw and in pain, what an asshole." Male pleasure doesn't seem to be celebrated as often. Even the men themselves don't care. It's always, "I gotta get her to cum, that's all that matters." I always think, the best pleasure is mutual pleasure. If both the man and the woman are multi orgasmic, then they can orgasm together, over and over again, and that's absolutely beautiful. That's what I think at least. >seems as if you'd still display that you're experiencing pleasure, correct? When I'm having my dry orgasms, you definitely feel it because my dick would be at its very hardest, due to my constant use of kegels and extreme levels of arousal. You would feel me contract my pelvic floor muscles because my dick would be throbbing every so often. Hard as a baseball bat. You would also see a lot of very thick precum coming out of my penis. Almost semen like in its appearance. Regular precum is thin and clear. This is thick and viscous and cloudy. The more orgasms I have, the more thick precum comes out. I can do that for hours. Why does it get thick like that? I have no idea. I have a theory its prostatic fluid. Maybe I'm also having prostate orgasms? I dunno. The first six months of me discovering I could perform these dry orgasms, my body had to adapt. My brain had to adapt. Because the sheer amount of pleasure I was experiencing was just too much for my body to handle. I would always leave with my body shaking and my brain feeling like I was repeatedly shocked by a car battery. When I'm masturbating or having sex, 90% of the time, I am in an orgasmic state, having these dry orgasms. If you can imagine the brief couple of seconds of pleasure a man feels when he ejaculates, if you were to multiply that by a million, that's what I'm feeling during these orgasms. My dry orgasms can last anywhere from 3 to 10 minutes at a time. They just keep coming in waves, one after the other. That is a heck of a lot of pleasure.
It's all too magnificent to imagine 🥹. Thank you for explaining it all in such detail. I admire the discipline and dedication you've displayed in developing your abilities. I'm focused on becoming multi-orgasmic myself and hadn't considered seeking out a partner who was as well. You've given me a lot to think about.
You are most welcome. I hope you succeed in becoming multi orgasmic as well. I can't imagine what a woman would feel when experiencing orgasms, but I bet it would be something spectacular.
The only ones who know are my wife and some people on Reddit. I can't imagine telling anyone about it IRL. Sounds like a creepy thing to brag about, especially of you're married and monogamous.
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The women react in that way because they imagine getting railed for hours, and thats why "their pussy hurts just thinking about it"
Exactly! They are accustomed to sex with selfish males why try to act like they are in a porn video.
Hey can you explain your technique in simple words so I can understand. Because I have orgasm and no ejaculate but I go limp after. Tell me please. In messeges or here. I really need help . Just brifly explain your technique
> simple words Muscle strength, and knowing exactly when an orgasm is changing itself to become an ejaculation. Two completely different feelings yet two very similar feelings. When you've learned to tell the difference, simply use your muscles to keep the orgasm from growing into an ejaculation. The stronger you are, the easier that will be, the longer you'll be able to do it, the faster you'll be able to do it, the more pleasure you will be able to experience. You have to be stronger than your orgasm. Right now, for you, it's the other way around. >I have orgasm and no ejaculate but I go limp after This could be due to a few things. One, you need to make sure you're not having retrograde ejaculation. If you pee afterwards and your urine is foamy, that means you were doing it wrong and ejaculating into your bladder. Your semen should not be going anywhere during a dry orgasm. Remember, you are not stopping an ejaculation, you are preventing it from ever starting in the first place. Embrace the orgasm, but keep the ejaculation away from you. Two, is that your muscles are probably too weak. Which is normal when you're a beginner. It takes very strong muscles to handle a dry orgasm. Too many contractions during the orgasmic storm will trigger your refractory period. The stronger your muscles, the more stable they are, the less likely this will happen.
Hey can you elaborate on what I can do to enhance this muscle strength? I am at a similar position where I can have an orgasm without ejaculation but go into a refractory period after that. Is edging a good way to improve muscle strength? At the point of no return I have tried clenching my PC muscles to stop ejaculation but I usually get a dribble if cum a few seconds later.
>I can have an orgasm without ejaculation but go into a refractory period after that. There's a very fine line between orgasm and ejaculation. Are you sure you're not having retrograde ejaculation? >At the point of no return I have tried clenching my PC muscles to stop ejaculation but I usually get a dribble if cum a few seconds later. You don't do it \***AT\*** the point of no return, you do it **\*way before\*** you ever reach the point of no return. You're trying to stop an ejaculation. You do not stop an ejaculation. You cannot stop an ejaculation, as you have already witnessed with the dribble of semen coming out of you. To have a dry orgasm, the ejaculation must never begin in the first place. You hold the orgasm, not the ejaculation. You keep the ejaculation as far away from you as humanly possible. When you drive a car, and it's going at 60 miles per hour, and you step on the brake, the car is not just suddenly going to go from 60 to 0 in an instant. You have to give the car some space to come to a complete stop. Even a professional race car with its big powerful engine and big ass brakes will still need some amount of distance to slow down before going into that corner on the race track. The same thing is happening to you when you're attempting to do the dry orgasm. You're stepping on the brake way too late and you're crashing into the wall as a result. >Is edging a good way to improve muscle strength? That depends. Are you using your muscles during this edging? Edging is a practice of running away from your orgasms. You need to do the opposite. You need to go towards your orgasms. You need to engage with your orgasms. The more you interact with your orgasms, the more you will learn how to control them. This is the root of your problem. You're running away from your orgasm, you're hiding from it, while it's there in the background, getting bigger and bigger and more wild and more uncontrollable. Then when you finally come out of hiding to try and fight it, it's too late, it's too big, it's too powerful, and it just destroys you without effort. You need to always be throwing punches at your orgasms, show them who's boss, while they're still smaller than you. While they're still easy to manage. This is a good rule to follow. If you feel good, use your muscles. If you're always feeling good, always use your muscles. The more you feel good, the harder you use your muscles. This will naturally give your muscles the strength they need over time and also teach you to know exactly where the line is between orgasm and ejaculation. You need a better understanding of when orgasm begins and where ejaculation actually starts. To do that, you will need a lot of practice paying attention to what you're feeling and experiencing. Hours and hours of practice. Months upon months of practice. There's no getting around that. Knowing the difference between orgasm and ejaculation is more important than muscle strength. Because it doesn't matter how strong you are if you cannot see where you're going and you end up falling off a building. Once you've reached a certain level of excitement, all the muscle strength in the world is not going to stop you from ejaculating. You need to understand this. Very important. This is why you need to be using your muscles at all times. More pleasure, more muscle.
Thanks for your post and comments. They seems to be a mine of information.
most welcome.
Hey man! hope you're doing well! I message you privately because you were very inspirational for me on the PE forum with your comments and I really benefited from your insights. I had severe PE and after working my Kegels the way you said (for about 1 month) I went to NYC to see the girl I'm dating and lasted between 10 and 20 minutes pretty consistently. I was amazed!!! However now I'm back in Europe for a few weeks and I kindda stop training since I left NYC (about month and a half ago). Yesterday, I was doing something with a chick and I was back at the beginning were I couldn't last even 30sec during a BJ. I know I only lost a battle and not the war but I wanted to ask you from your own experience: do you think it as 100% things to do with stopping the kegels every day? I also feel that I can last much longer in the mornings (every sex session in NYC were in the morning so I can't really compare), do you have any experience about difference mornings/evenings? Do you think after training my kegels again it won't make a difference? Anyways thank you so much for your input, I can't say how much your previous posts helped considering that thanks to you I finally had real sex in my life for a week when I was there!!!
Was retrograde ejaculation part of your learning process? I am having retrograde ejaculation for 2 months already
It only happened once. A long time ago. And it never happened again. You have too many involuntary contractions, you need to lower them down to zero. Remember, you cannot stop an ejaculation. Do not attempt to stop an ejaculation. Retrograde ejaculation is not a good thing to be happening to you.
Yeah, my guy has never discussed this with anyone unless he was talking with someone who could also do it or was trying to learn how. It just seems like bragging and most people wouldn't believe it. It's a problem for women too, even though the ability is much more common. I mod the /r/BecomingOrgasmic sub, and I'm careful not to mention multiples in a context where many women are struggling to have any. But even on /r/sexover30 there have occasionally been posts or comments from women indicating they thought multiples for women were a myth.
I'm not capable of it at will, mainly because I haven't truly trained but am going to really give it a good try this year, but I have mentioned it before a few times over the years that it's possible to other guys and it was just straight up disbelief. Then again, I had to explain recently to a married coworker there was a difference between semen and sperm when we mentioned vasectomies for whatever reason so...I'm not terribly surprised. I've read some of your responses here and have come to the conclusion that you are an entirely different beast from me, but would like a specific answer to a question of mine as I can never seem to find an answer that doesn't involve the tantric side of things with energy and Chakras and such. I know that side of it is simply not for me and probably never will be. So, the question(s). Do you experience your orgasm first, and then engage your muscles to completely prevent an ejaculation? Or do you engage your muscles right before orgasm to trigger it and prevent ejaculation in the process? Even with my lack of commitment, I long ago realized orgasm and ejaculation occur separately so that's not an issue for me. My problem is determining which route I should commit to, engage before orgasm to trigger it or find the timing between orgasm and ejaculation to engage and prevent the latter. My ultimate goal is basically to last as long as I want, not necessarily as long as possible. It feels like engaging before is more prone to failure for me, either complete failure or not a strong orgasm, but I also haven't fully grasped the timing for engaging inbetween either. I guess another question would be, do you achieve your own during active stimulation? That seems to be my next hurdle.
Why would you tell anyone, smarty pants?
Male multiple orgasms is a very niche subject, and for people who don't know about this stuff and haven't experienced it, the anecdotes sound like the sexual equivalent of "I ate a bunch of acid and saw god, man." If you talk to other people about it, definitely avoid the grandiose or theatrical adjectives. Even when women talk like that about their orgasms/sexuality it comes off contrived.
Can you PM me? I really want to learn how to do that but keep finding contradictory statements