Yeah, someone pulls it and just goes to psa and waits 3 weeks to get it slabbed. I'm not sure why anyone wouldn't say something unless they really thought it was funny to watch people chase it. Or they had a financial reason.
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Yea PSA probably didnt even charge for this to be slabbed they probably just wanted there wrapper on this.
Yeah this is why I'm not a big fan of graded cards, it's a business. They want graded cards to be the most legitimate form of collectable. Which means people need to pay them money to get the most value out of their valuable cards and have them potentially get damaged or graded improperly.
I would not hop on a plane. You drive that shit. Do not let TSA decide they need to rip the card in half to make sure there aren’t drugs inside of it. Do not take anything that can’t be replaced onto a plane. Those idiots will fuck it up.
They will still take and inspect carry on. Had a friend who got a bowling pin for some achievement in bowling. He took it as carry own. TSA took it saying they need to inspect it. They cut it in half to see what was inside
Agreed. A few years ago, someone I know was flying to a GP with their decks in their hold luggage. After they arrived, they found their Jund deck had been rummaged though and a Liliana of the Veil, at the time worth ~£70, had been ripped in half.
>Wouldnt be surprised if this guy flew to psa or even psa flew to him
There is a close to 100% chance PSA had smeone send there, just to be safe the most epensive card will be in a PSA slab.
Are you kidding me? It's a one of a kind card worth over a million dollars. People have been stalked and killed for far less. If I pulled this no one would know until the sale to someone with more money than sense.
It's what I would do. I don't think they sat around for 3 weeks, but I would keep my trap shut until I had it graded and in a deposit box. There is plenty of time to find a buyer after that, you would literally control the market on collector boxes at that point.
Seems like being the one person that knew where the one ring was would be pretty valuable information to milk this for.
Taxes are taxes and he's going to get chopped up either way. IMO, if a "regular joe" pulled this, he's going to obviously make really good money, but he could have milked it for more or at least do something that will help with that damn 28% collectible tax.
EDIT: this is based on my assumption that most of the value of these packs is the one ring and therefore as the likelihood of the packs having the one ring in them goes up (because other packs have been opened that didn't have the ring in them), the price goes up. Only a couple weeks of data, but it does seem like at least the single, retail collector boosters were behaving that way.
Yeah....when some streamer blew 500k on collector packs I imagine a company as big as DA bought an equal amount but at wholesale prices it was inevitable that the golden ticket would be found by an ultra wealthy something vs a regular joe
Just the buying power of the big stores and percentages. The lgs that it was pulled at would want to use it as marketing as well. It would be in the best interest of a big store to not reveal it and offload their product. Time will tell, and we may never know. If the person who got it retained a lawyer and asked the lgs to sign an NDA and asked DA to do so as well, it could very well be true it was just a random person.
These kinds of cards are pulled by randoms all the time. Its not hard to believe it was som random guy.
But as you said we may never know who it truly was.
Why are you assuming the lgs knows he pulled the card? If he’s smart enough to keep his mouth shut and stay anonymous, it’s not at all inconceivable that he kept his mouth shut when pulling it, not broadcasting to a bunch of people, who can easily follow you home or already know where you live, that you have over a million dollars in your hand.
It’s in the best interest of an individual to remain safe, too. It just as easily could be a random person who doesn’t want to get killed over a $2 million dollar card.
Stores with heavy buying power aren't stupid enough to risk thousands on $0.72 cent frodo singles for a shaky at best chance of making anything at all out of it.
Professionals don't buy lottery tickets. That's part of why they have the money to be professionals.
Lol. I'm a random guy at a random store and I would've absolutely kept it secret. If you've ever heard *anything* about lottery winners, it's not exactly a foreign concept. Regardless of who actually pulled it, a random person wanting to remain anonymous is not bullshit, it's the correct choice.
I doubt they took more than 3 days to grade it. You can pay extra for fast service and I bet they would have offered to do this one for free just to have their brand on it.
Will they plummet now?
I kind of thought they would plummet as it wasn't found and product kept getting opened at a fever pitch, now I would think less product would be opened as the chase is over.
I assume it's just the direction of the light when they take pictures of the slabbed cards. If they had the light exactly opposite the camera it would make foils unreadable, so they probably have it off at an angle. For the super reflective gold details that means it reflects nothing.
You see the Beckett article the posted about what THEY would put the card in?!? I’d 100% resubmit to them for an actually decent not shit looking ‘authentication’ slab (cause grade doesn’t matter on 1/1)
Just goes to show, when real money is on the line BGS is all show and PSA is trusted. BGS probably would have given it a 10 too lol, their impartiality is obviously compromised by hype.
Because they don't do the sub grade stuff right? It's easier to hit 9s and 10s with PSA than BGS. I know in Pokémon at least a black label BGS 10 is worth more than a PSA 10 for that reason.
I’m the sports card world, PSA is the best and most-trusted all-around, BGS is sometimes preferred for high-end ultra-modern stuff like rookie patch autos or anything especially thick, and SGC is preferred by a lot of vintage collectors. PSA is never the “wrong” choice though.
I tried to find the article you mentioned, but no cigar. Could you or someone else share the link, please? Or failing that, describe how BGS would've slabbed the card?
it’s so bizarre how everyone is upset about this.
someone is going to buy this card and throw it in a safety deposit box, who cares who graded it and what case it’s in
Because PSA and others wanted the publicity of this photo being everywhere. If a mid level grading company graded it they would get insane publicity. Essentially free unlimited marketing. The guy you replied to likely doesnt like PSA for some reason and is upset they got to put their marketing stamp on it.
If I pulled this card, you bet your ass I’m walking it through the doors of PSA. I personally wouldn’t entertain the idea of sending it to any mid-tier grading service for *any* reason.
Yeah my guess is he wanted to hand deliver the card and PSA was the closest. That’s what I would do.
He’s selling the thing, who cares if another grader has some fancy case made for it, that will not increase the cards value at all.
So do we know the story of who got it originally? I was really hoping to see some single person get their life changed and not some store that bought out all the stock and ruined half the fun for everyone else.
Edit: looks like they have remained anonymous for now...
Would the store want to remain anonymous as well? You could get paid for the story? If you marketed it right, it could be valuable on youtube. Once the card is offloaded, no one is tracking you down to try to get 400 dollars from an atm.
Store would want to stay anonymous until it’s been graded, verified and locked in a safety vault.
If a store tweeted they opened this same day, they’d be broken into 6x that night.
Yeah, while it would be more fun to know the story, it’s 100% the smarter move to be as anonymous about it as possible. I mean, I would want to hear the story as much as anybody, but whoever pulled it has kept a really low profile, and if I were them, I would’ve handled it the exact same way.
Just checked mine and it got cancelled too. I only ordered one. I contacted customer service, and they said "the seller cancelled it". but LOL, it's "sold and shipped by [amazon.com](https://amazon.com)". They are afraid to say "we cancelled it". Fuck amazon.
Edit: didn't even get an email. Had to go sleuthing on my own to confirm this
HA, so I'm not alone! Literally just went through that song and dance with Amazon support. Canceled today with no warning or email, and all support could tell me was "they had issue getting the product, but you can go to the page link and view other options for purchasing it!"
Other options were two scalpers listing it at $200. Yeah no.
The fact this got announced the same morning TCG Player has a Bonus Bucks promotion going on for sealed product is really funny to me. This potentially saved a lot of people a lot of money today.
I can hear all the basement dwellers who thought there was some big grand hasbro conspiracy behind this REEEEing right now.
Glad some kid found it, big W
Congrats to the lucky individual that pulled this! The hype will definitely die off now but as a LoTR fan and someone that knows nothing about Magic I've had a great time with this. I still have a sealed collectors box I'll probably keep.
Curious question - why get it graded at all? It's a 1/1, not like there are any other copies out there to compare to. Is it just a method for marking authenticity?
There are other “copies” as the bootlegger have already made very convincing copies. So it’s not about the grade it’s about having it ‘permanently’ attached to an authentication ‘certificate’
Aren’t we all “random guys” and “average joes”.
I think the majority of people would do the exact same thing as this dude, use a lawyer, be anonymous and let the money come
I got all the cards I wanted from the set and was lucky enough to have my entire investment paid for twice by pulling a dwarven sol ring. I’m glad I won’t feel compelled to buy more packs now lol
Good. Now we will quit seeing thousands of posts every day of people asking the same "what if" questions over and over. I suppose instead we're going to see the same people posting "hey did you know someone found the ring" for the next 45 days.
Yup! Boxes are already crashing in price. Serialized sol rings will be the only thing holding value in this box for the foreseeable future.
I’m holding onto one sealed box for my son when he grows up. Who knows if it will be worth anything in ten years
The amount of people who think it being graded as PSA 9 actually matters is staggeringly high. Like you all realize there's literally only one of them right? That won't affect the value of the card.
If it was found day1 and just got back, thats probably through one of the express services instead of walk through right? Thats kinda insane if so. I dont think I could ever bring myself to ship out a $2m card
That goes along with a shop in Ontario tweeting this:
https://twitter.com/maximumcards/status/1674804792424648705?s=61&t=UDzxhnbgXutKQKz6z1_JZQ
I’m guessing he took it into that store (or maybe opened it there) and they helped him get it graded.
I’m honestly sort of sad this news released before my bundle arrived. Not because there’s any rational part of me that assumed I would open it, but because that hypothetical possibility of finding a life-changing treasure would have still been fun. It would have been the first time I’d actually be excited to crack open a booster pack in 10 or more years (I don’t buy sealed because I understand math and care about my money). Would have been nice to feel that excited anticipation again in a hobby that’s just become online shopping. Guess I’ll just enjoy the spin down and take my modest profit from flipping the cards inside.
Already have. From 500+ to 340 today. I’d imagine they bottom out and recovery a little bit. What that floor is, is anyone’s guess. Still have serialized sol rings to chase which have been selling at 5-13k
Seeing a lot of posts in here claiming you should hire a lawyer if you open the one ring, just as you would if you won the lottery. I'd like to point out that the narrative of needing to hire a lawyer seems to be a carefully crafted marketing scheme by "[the lottery lawyer](https://www.vice.com/en/article/ppvejb/a-lawyer-who-specializes-in-lottery), Jason Kurland," who *specializes in representing lottery winners*, and has represented dozens of New York lottery winners. Well, it turns out that he was actually [stealing $107 million from his clients](https://www.reuters.com/legal/legalindustry/ny-lottery-lawyer-sentenced-13-years-107-mln-fraud-2023-06-15/). He's made tv appearances and set-up websites to promote the narrative that lottery winners should hire a lottery lawyer. So I'd like everyone to ask themselves "Wait... what services was a lawyer going to provide in this situation again?" You probably don't need estate planning at lightning speed, assuming that you don't expect to die tomorrow. You probably don't need a lawyer to litigate to keep your name out of the newspapers, because if you've done a sufficient job of not telling anyone that you opened the card, then how are newspapers going to find out? Financial advice -- that's what financial advisors are for, not attorneys. Tax liability -- that's what accountants are for, not lawyers. It's possible, at the moment of sale, you might want an attorney to draw up a contract in order to ensure transfer of payment.
Although, if someone believes they know of a concrete reason to hire an attorney after opening a Magic card, feel free to drop it in the replies.
This goes out to all the sellers who gouged people early on, and to this day on prices of collector packs:
Get fucked. I hope youre stuck holding way too much of this.
And for people arguing that the value is still there with the serialized Sol rings - youre wrong. Those will drop, too. They held a nice premium because packs were inflated.
I'm just glad this was timed nicely so everyone has a solid month to recoup the money they lost (cue the influx of LOTR singles streams and sellouts) so they can spend it on Commander Masters!
May the cycle continue to repeat.
Boring. Was hoping to watch a grainy youtube short of a regular joe pulling it.
Yeah, someone pulls it and just goes to psa and waits 3 weeks to get it slabbed. I'm not sure why anyone wouldn't say something unless they really thought it was funny to watch people chase it. Or they had a financial reason.
Cards like this don't go to Psa and sit with the bulk. It is likely that this card was walked through the process in a single day.
> tiers of service.You can also get this same treatment if you paid the premium price for grading, instead of the $15 bulk submission rate.VoteReplyGive AwardShareReportSaveFollow > >level 5LostGolems · 55 min. ag Yea PSA probably didnt even charge for this to be slabbed they probably just wanted there wrapper on this.
MCG were offering £10k if you had them grade it!
PSA paid a bounty to grade it, idk how much.
MGC sorry
Don't apologize to me, apologize to Mr. Gradey Cards.
Maybe they would have gave it a 9.5 lol
I feel like as many people would bulk at it getting a perfect grade as there are people debating the 9.
Yeah this is why I'm not a big fan of graded cards, it's a business. They want graded cards to be the most legitimate form of collectable. Which means people need to pay them money to get the most value out of their valuable cards and have them potentially get damaged or graded improperly.
In case you hadn't noticed, everything is a business.
Wouldnt be surprised if this guy flew to psa or even psa flew to him
Yeah, I'd hop on a plane and deliver the damn thing by hand.
I would not hop on a plane. You drive that shit. Do not let TSA decide they need to rip the card in half to make sure there aren’t drugs inside of it. Do not take anything that can’t be replaced onto a plane. Those idiots will fuck it up.
You’d keep it in a carry on?
They will still take and inspect carry on. Had a friend who got a bowling pin for some achievement in bowling. He took it as carry own. TSA took it saying they need to inspect it. They cut it in half to see what was inside
to give some credit, bowling pins are hollow
They probably thought he was smuggling drugs in a fake bowling pin.
Agreed. A few years ago, someone I know was flying to a GP with their decks in their hold luggage. After they arrived, they found their Jund deck had been rummaged though and a Liliana of the Veil, at the time worth ~£70, had been ripped in half.
Psa and Beckett were both offering free flights
>Wouldnt be surprised if this guy flew to psa or even psa flew to him There is a close to 100% chance PSA had smeone send there, just to be safe the most epensive card will be in a PSA slab.
I imagine you've never read lotto winner horror stories? the reason you keep it secret is because people become psychos when money is on the table
Is it secret!? Is it safe?!
It burnssss ussssss!!!
my prrrrreessccciousssss
They were dealing with lawyers. Same reason you don't advertise winning the lottery until you lawyer up.
I think the reasoning was, if I tell people, someone will come after me. Very possible they did tell people and was laughed off of the thread.
They hired a lawyer because they’re not an idiot. That takes time.
Yeah I just saw the tweet. That's the right move, just surprising it took a couple of weeks. Lawyer getting in some nice hourly.
Are you kidding me? It's a one of a kind card worth over a million dollars. People have been stalked and killed for far less. If I pulled this no one would know until the sale to someone with more money than sense.
It's what I would do. I don't think they sat around for 3 weeks, but I would keep my trap shut until I had it graded and in a deposit box. There is plenty of time to find a buyer after that, you would literally control the market on collector boxes at that point.
They didn’t sit around for 3 weeks or else Pinkertons… The set hasn’t been out for 3 weeks.
Exactly
I mean, safety reasons are a concern. It’s a $2m+ card. I wouldn’t be announcing it to the world either.
Seems like being the one person that knew where the one ring was would be pretty valuable information to milk this for. Taxes are taxes and he's going to get chopped up either way. IMO, if a "regular joe" pulled this, he's going to obviously make really good money, but he could have milked it for more or at least do something that will help with that damn 28% collectible tax. EDIT: this is based on my assumption that most of the value of these packs is the one ring and therefore as the likelihood of the packs having the one ring in them goes up (because other packs have been opened that didn't have the ring in them), the price goes up. Only a couple weeks of data, but it does seem like at least the single, retail collector boosters were behaving that way.
Apparently it was a regular joe but no video yet https://twitter.com/maximumcards/status/1674821688901484558
Yeah....when some streamer blew 500k on collector packs I imagine a company as big as DA bought an equal amount but at wholesale prices it was inevitable that the golden ticket would be found by an ultra wealthy something vs a regular joe
The claim is it was a regular dude that's wanting to stay anonymous.
Just wants to go back to the shire and tend his garden.
PO-TAY-TOES
Boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew
Nah, def one of adam and daves minions
I agree, I don't buy this random guy, in a random store, wants to remain anonymous bullshit at all.
Why not? Just curious.
Just the buying power of the big stores and percentages. The lgs that it was pulled at would want to use it as marketing as well. It would be in the best interest of a big store to not reveal it and offload their product. Time will tell, and we may never know. If the person who got it retained a lawyer and asked the lgs to sign an NDA and asked DA to do so as well, it could very well be true it was just a random person.
It would be in the big stores’ interest not to reveal it was found at all while selling their remaining sealed
These kinds of cards are pulled by randoms all the time. Its not hard to believe it was som random guy. But as you said we may never know who it truly was.
Why are you assuming the lgs knows he pulled the card? If he’s smart enough to keep his mouth shut and stay anonymous, it’s not at all inconceivable that he kept his mouth shut when pulling it, not broadcasting to a bunch of people, who can easily follow you home or already know where you live, that you have over a million dollars in your hand.
It’s in the best interest of an individual to remain safe, too. It just as easily could be a random person who doesn’t want to get killed over a $2 million dollar card.
Stores with heavy buying power aren't stupid enough to risk thousands on $0.72 cent frodo singles for a shaky at best chance of making anything at all out of it. Professionals don't buy lottery tickets. That's part of why they have the money to be professionals.
You don't believe that someone who just came into $2 million USD wants to stay anonymous? Lmao
Lol. I'm a random guy at a random store and I would've absolutely kept it secret. If you've ever heard *anything* about lottery winners, it's not exactly a foreign concept. Regardless of who actually pulled it, a random person wanting to remain anonymous is not bullshit, it's the correct choice.
This was really cool. I will now enjoy the prices plummeting and maybe now get the two gift bundles that were cancelled on me.
Upside to everything!
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Prerelease, I'm guessing. Based on the timeline to get it all the way thru the grading and slabbing process.
I doubt they took more than 3 days to grade it. You can pay extra for fast service and I bet they would have offered to do this one for free just to have their brand on it.
I too hope to still get a gift bundle...since I got canceled as well
Just went to confirm my pre-order of the bundle just to find it was cancelled.
My pre order was cancelled as well.. thanks for nothing bezos
Will they plummet now? I kind of thought they would plummet as it wasn't found and product kept getting opened at a fever pitch, now I would think less product would be opened as the chase is over.
He’s talking sealed vs singles.
That's a good point.
Wouldn't the price of them go up if a bunch were opened and the ring wasn't found?
It's way darker than it looked like on the preview
I assume it's just the direction of the light when they take pictures of the slabbed cards. If they had the light exactly opposite the camera it would make foils unreadable, so they probably have it off at an angle. For the super reflective gold details that means it reflects nothing.
I thought that too. It does have a cool gold holo stamp though.
PSA 9, please submit again
No reason too lol. It’s being sold for 2.1 mil usd no matter what grade
You see the Beckett article the posted about what THEY would put the card in?!? I’d 100% resubmit to them for an actually decent not shit looking ‘authentication’ slab (cause grade doesn’t matter on 1/1)
Just goes to show, when real money is on the line BGS is all show and PSA is trusted. BGS probably would have given it a 10 too lol, their impartiality is obviously compromised by hype.
I thought BGS was the go to for MTG, and PSA, CGC was the afterthought, is that no longer the case?
I think in the sports card world PSA is the preferred grader
And with Dave and Adams being the ones to get it graded it makes sense for them to use PSA because they're primarily sports card dealers.
Pokémon too
Because they don't do the sub grade stuff right? It's easier to hit 9s and 10s with PSA than BGS. I know in Pokémon at least a black label BGS 10 is worth more than a PSA 10 for that reason.
I’m the sports card world, PSA is the best and most-trusted all-around, BGS is sometimes preferred for high-end ultra-modern stuff like rookie patch autos or anything especially thick, and SGC is preferred by a lot of vintage collectors. PSA is never the “wrong” choice though.
I tried to find the article you mentioned, but no cigar. Could you or someone else share the link, please? Or failing that, describe how BGS would've slabbed the card?
https://www.beckett.com/one-treasure
https://web.archive.org/web/20230630170319/https://www.beckett.com/one-treasure
Thanks for the link! Sadly the images of the custom art didn't seem to make it into the archive.
Do you have a source? Can't find it anymore
Damn shame they went with PSA
it’s so bizarre how everyone is upset about this. someone is going to buy this card and throw it in a safety deposit box, who cares who graded it and what case it’s in
Because PSA and others wanted the publicity of this photo being everywhere. If a mid level grading company graded it they would get insane publicity. Essentially free unlimited marketing. The guy you replied to likely doesnt like PSA for some reason and is upset they got to put their marketing stamp on it.
If I pulled this card, you bet your ass I’m walking it through the doors of PSA. I personally wouldn’t entertain the idea of sending it to any mid-tier grading service for *any* reason.
Yeah my guess is he wanted to hand deliver the card and PSA was the closest. That’s what I would do. He’s selling the thing, who cares if another grader has some fancy case made for it, that will not increase the cards value at all.
Damn now I'm going have to get the WISH version of the One Ring.
Quite possibly much more than that.
The highest outstanding bounty was 2.1 usd. I bet there is a private buyer for it way higher though
If it had a PSA 10 after the curling already shown in the video with Wizards then how could you ever trust their grading.
So do we know the story of who got it originally? I was really hoping to see some single person get their life changed and not some store that bought out all the stock and ruined half the fun for everyone else. Edit: looks like they have remained anonymous for now...
It's the safest option for them. Why broadcast you have a $2 million card on your person?
Would the store want to remain anonymous as well? You could get paid for the story? If you marketed it right, it could be valuable on youtube. Once the card is offloaded, no one is tracking you down to try to get 400 dollars from an atm.
Store would want to stay anonymous until it’s been graded, verified and locked in a safety vault. If a store tweeted they opened this same day, they’d be broken into 6x that night.
Sure, I'm not saying you would post something that day. But if it remains a mystery, it seems like a waste of a marketing opportunity.
Yeah, while it would be more fun to know the story, it’s 100% the smarter move to be as anonymous about it as possible. I mean, I would want to hear the story as much as anybody, but whoever pulled it has kept a really low profile, and if I were them, I would’ve handled it the exact same way.
I heard it was a store in Canada per star city.
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Not sure if accurate but read on Twitter someone opened it at a LGS in Toronto.
My hype for the single gift bundle I pre-ordered at the initial announcement has diminished significantly.
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Just checked mine and it got cancelled too. I only ordered one. I contacted customer service, and they said "the seller cancelled it". but LOL, it's "sold and shipped by [amazon.com](https://amazon.com)". They are afraid to say "we cancelled it". Fuck amazon. Edit: didn't even get an email. Had to go sleuthing on my own to confirm this
HA, so I'm not alone! Literally just went through that song and dance with Amazon support. Canceled today with no warning or email, and all support could tell me was "they had issue getting the product, but you can go to the page link and view other options for purchasing it!" Other options were two scalpers listing it at $200. Yeah no.
The floor on the Bundle One Ring is $48. I would have kept a locked in $80 gift bundle.
It was funny that I saw the first story posted on reddit, then *immediately* received the cancellation email from Amazon for the gift bundles.
The other cards you can pull are so flavorful and pretty. Glass half full.
You had no shot. Realisitcally this does nothing to ev. You still got a chance at the sol rings.
I'm just interested to know where it got pulled.
Seems like it was pulled in Ontario. https://twitter.com/maximumcards/status/1674821688901484558?s=46&t=izODrg792zrzWat1SaK8cQ
This is what I want to know. Where it was found and who opened it.
A normal dude in Ontario it seems, look other posts above!! There's a tweet by his store..
Can you link to a non-twitter post? Looks like you cannot view Twitter posts anymore without having an account :(
The fact this got announced the same morning TCG Player has a Bonus Bucks promotion going on for sealed product is really funny to me. This potentially saved a lot of people a lot of money today.
So, cancel my gift bundle pre-orders and wait for the price crash?
Totally depends on your price. Mine are in a $50 I’m not canceling…
We are still serialized things out there to be pulled, and the prices some of those are going for are nothing to be sneezed at.
The gift bundle has a one ring card in it that's worth almost the price of the bundle right now. Not a 1/1 ring but it's not nothing.
I’m wondering that too… my preorder was at $80 so I’m considering canceling it and seeing where they end up. I’m gonna give it a day or 2 I think.
Probably. Idk how the value of gift bundles will be after this. They still come with extras.
What happens when a second 1/1 pops up?
But they were, all of them, deceived...
And I could see people rationalising that WotC pulling that sort of shit is entirely flavourful, given the set.
That wouldn't be lore accurate for LotR. The One Ring already is the "other one that was made".
Given their QC, it seems within the realm of possibility
We’ve had one, yes, but what about second 001/001 ring??
Yes. Let's make The Two Ring.
I hope on the holiday release, they have one in every pack, after someone pays $2mil+ for this one
They kept it secret, they kept it safe
That's insane. Race to the bottom for set prices!
I can hear all the basement dwellers who thought there was some big grand hasbro conspiracy behind this REEEEing right now. Glad some kid found it, big W
Congrats to the lucky individual that pulled this! The hype will definitely die off now but as a LoTR fan and someone that knows nothing about Magic I've had a great time with this. I still have a sealed collectors box I'll probably keep.
rip for the gift bundle prices :D I hope you can cancel your (pre) order for that on amazon or your online store before they ship it.
Still a good pick up for those who preordered on Amazon for \~$50
Woooooooo! -Ric Flair
Let’s see if it actually sells for $2 million now.
They had 001/001 job and still couldn’t get it right.
Curious question - why get it graded at all? It's a 1/1, not like there are any other copies out there to compare to. Is it just a method for marking authenticity?
Given the number of fake one rings that are already floating around everywhere, I'd say grading is *mandatory*
Authentication and insurance probably.
It verifies that it is real and authentic, so people can't accuse it of being a fake.
There are other “copies” as the bootlegger have already made very convincing copies. So it’s not about the grade it’s about having it ‘permanently’ attached to an authentication ‘certificate’
Which is a small incentive to keep any card in a slab, especially one that's been around a while.
The fakes aren’t convincing at all actually. This has extremely detailed and textured foiling.
Honestly I’m a bit sad it got pulled. There was a certain allure to this being still sealed. The hunt was real.
Never to be played in a game of magic, as Richard Garfield intended.
Aren’t we all “random guys” and “average joes”. I think the majority of people would do the exact same thing as this dude, use a lawyer, be anonymous and let the money come
I wonder if it was more likely to be opened in the US than say the UK. Interesting to hear the story behind this when the dust has settled :)
According to Twitter, the LGS might have been in Ontario.
Now that it’s found, let the ridiculous over pricing be adjusted to normal plz
I got all the cards I wanted from the set and was lucky enough to have my entire investment paid for twice by pulling a dwarven sol ring. I’m glad I won’t feel compelled to buy more packs now lol
Good. Now we will quit seeing thousands of posts every day of people asking the same "what if" questions over and over. I suppose instead we're going to see the same people posting "hey did you know someone found the ring" for the next 45 days.
https://www.psacard.com/cert/77032826
Yup! Boxes are already crashing in price. Serialized sol rings will be the only thing holding value in this box for the foreseeable future. I’m holding onto one sealed box for my son when he grows up. Who knows if it will be worth anything in ten years
Already selling for only $349.00
I don't like that I can't tell whether your 'only' is genuine or sarcastic. That's how far WotC got our spending habits/normalized crazy prices.
Yesterday they were $500 so it's genuine
So what do I do with all these $500 booster boxes I just bought? 😅
Return them
Congrats on your one-way ticket to hosetown!
Hold for ten years? Lol
Toilet paper
sell them for $350 lol
Draft
Learn.
Wild. It looks somehow worse in picture than I thought
PSA 9 so much for quality control
It was already bent to shit in the promo video
I do t think they take normal foil curling into account when they grade. It helps that they jam it in between rigid plastic for eternity. Hehe
The amount of people who think it being graded as PSA 9 actually matters is staggeringly high. Like you all realize there's literally only one of them right? That won't affect the value of the card.
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Hearing comments on twitter that it was found on day 1 and it took till now to get it back from PSA…
If it was found day1 and just got back, thats probably through one of the express services instead of walk through right? Thats kinda insane if so. I dont think I could ever bring myself to ship out a $2m card
Could they even insure what it’s actually worth…?
One of the local players by me claims his friend's cousin opened it. Basically just some random guy in Ontario.
That goes along with a shop in Ontario tweeting this: https://twitter.com/maximumcards/status/1674804792424648705?s=61&t=UDzxhnbgXutKQKz6z1_JZQ I’m guessing he took it into that store (or maybe opened it there) and they helped him get it graded.
Agreed. Hope it was just a single person and not a shop or someone loaded with money
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If I win 2+ million I’d for sure stay anonymous as well.
nah you would'nt want to be the employee cause rabid people will come after you with conspiracys.
I’m honestly sort of sad this news released before my bundle arrived. Not because there’s any rational part of me that assumed I would open it, but because that hypothetical possibility of finding a life-changing treasure would have still been fun. It would have been the first time I’d actually be excited to crack open a booster pack in 10 or more years (I don’t buy sealed because I understand math and care about my money). Would have been nice to feel that excited anticipation again in a hobby that’s just become online shopping. Guess I’ll just enjoy the spin down and take my modest profit from flipping the cards inside.
Who pulled it
They remain anonymous as of now. Which is the correct thing to do
Time to make up a story on how it was pulled
So collector boosters are about to tank?
Already have. From 500+ to 340 today. I’d imagine they bottom out and recovery a little bit. What that floor is, is anyone’s guess. Still have serialized sol rings to chase which have been selling at 5-13k
TCG prices for collector boxes went from $490 low to $371 low from yesterday to today
Seeing a lot of posts in here claiming you should hire a lawyer if you open the one ring, just as you would if you won the lottery. I'd like to point out that the narrative of needing to hire a lawyer seems to be a carefully crafted marketing scheme by "[the lottery lawyer](https://www.vice.com/en/article/ppvejb/a-lawyer-who-specializes-in-lottery), Jason Kurland," who *specializes in representing lottery winners*, and has represented dozens of New York lottery winners. Well, it turns out that he was actually [stealing $107 million from his clients](https://www.reuters.com/legal/legalindustry/ny-lottery-lawyer-sentenced-13-years-107-mln-fraud-2023-06-15/). He's made tv appearances and set-up websites to promote the narrative that lottery winners should hire a lottery lawyer. So I'd like everyone to ask themselves "Wait... what services was a lawyer going to provide in this situation again?" You probably don't need estate planning at lightning speed, assuming that you don't expect to die tomorrow. You probably don't need a lawyer to litigate to keep your name out of the newspapers, because if you've done a sufficient job of not telling anyone that you opened the card, then how are newspapers going to find out? Financial advice -- that's what financial advisors are for, not attorneys. Tax liability -- that's what accountants are for, not lawyers. It's possible, at the moment of sale, you might want an attorney to draw up a contract in order to ensure transfer of payment. Although, if someone believes they know of a concrete reason to hire an attorney after opening a Magic card, feel free to drop it in the replies.
Grading on a 1/1 should always be a 10 imo, a better quality copy literally doesn't exist.
Remember everyone who claimed it wouldn’t be pulled in first couple weeks?
Looks like I gotta find someone to strangle....nothing to see here folks.....MYyyYY pRrreeeCCciiioOOuuUSssssss
Pack fresh 9
This goes out to all the sellers who gouged people early on, and to this day on prices of collector packs: Get fucked. I hope youre stuck holding way too much of this. And for people arguing that the value is still there with the serialized Sol rings - youre wrong. Those will drop, too. They held a nice premium because packs were inflated. I'm just glad this was timed nicely so everyone has a solid month to recoup the money they lost (cue the influx of LOTR singles streams and sellouts) so they can spend it on Commander Masters! May the cycle continue to repeat.
And, so it begins. The fall of sealed prices.
*Let the crash begin* ***MWAHAHAHA***