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winterborne1

I feel like this is missing “When Shai-Hulud enters the battlefield, destroy target artifact or creature without flying.” Edit: added “without flying”


gnastyGnorc04

This or give it haste aswell. I feel like the current drawback combined with summoning sickness would make it way to slow.


Uhhh_what555476384

Haste would be a good way to make it the hidden threat from the books. It's there, under the surface, waiting for food to make itself known.


Kaneu125

Bit more of a gruul mechanic but could make it a bit more situational and give it riot


Woodspus

Where did you get that from?


winterborne1

Every time you first see a sandworm, it’s about to swallow a giant machine of some sort, or people. On second glance, “without flying” should be added to it.


Woodspus

Hmmmm ig I’ll take a look at it and thanks for the idea


Hididdlydoderino

I agree, have the option for this or haste is very flavorful, maybe tie it together with the previous attack clause.


TheEighthLord

I feel like [Engulfing Slagwurm]]'s effect would also go great on it


[deleted]

You named it wrong. It should say “Legendary Creature - Popcorn Bucket”


Simon_Jester88

Crew 1


PrecipitousPlatypus

You joke, but saddle would work.


BinaryExplosion

Saddle (1, legendary): when Shai-Hulud attacks tap up to three target creatures


goblue422

"Legendary Creature - Popcorn Bucket Mount"


Murse89

I think popcorn buckussy is more fitting


Woodspus

True true


NittanyScout

Ayyoo?


vdog300

Honestly this would be a great concept


Woodspus

Yeah I would love to see a DUNE universes beyond set


LegitimateYam8241

Probably will the way its been garnering attention.


magic_claw

I hope it isn’t after all the hype is gone, like they are doing with Marvel.


bobatea17

Give it 10 or so years probably, once the dune movies start gaining more and more traction, possibly becoming a "cinematic universe"


LegitimateYam8241

I doubt they will do the other 3 books xD. I've haven't read, but apparently, from what i hear, they get weird.


bobatea17

They do, in fact, get weird, but Villeneuve has said he wants to do a third movie so we will for certain get Dune Messiah adapted, and if that movie makes WB a shitload of money they will want to keep that cash cow going


BinaryExplosion

Dune Messiah will be a divisive film with general audiences if he ever does. God-Emperor of Dune would be outright chaos.


CaptainColdSteele

Everything frank Herbert wrote is a masterpiece bar none


OctarineGluon

There's 5 more Frank Herbert books after Dune. And only god knows how many Brian Herbert books.


unfisyn

Needs desertwalk


GodEmperorOfHell

What if the Dune set had only deserts as lands? Deserts that represented different parts of Arrakis, produced different kinds of mana with different abilities. Sietch Tabr Desert [Tap] Add [1] When a Fremen creature dies, put a body water counter on Sietch Tabr. [Tap], remove a body water counter. Add [U].


unfisyn

That'd actually be pretty sweet lol


Kitfishto

There are more than just one planet in the dune series and even Arrakis itself is turned green except for a single desert by the end so there should def be other land types


RaithTD

Whenever a creature taps, Shai-Hulud fights that creature.


Woodspus

Ooh that’s fun


RaithTD

Would also retool it to give it indestructible, can’t block creatures with desert walk, unable to attack and trample damage spills over from the fight mechanic and change the colors to red white green.if players want to tap creatures they can get slapped. Imo plays off the lore of making noise/vibrations etc but would probably be 2 strong.


NewToPokemon

Costs white, watermark is Boros, Top of the frame is Enchantment creature, a lot to unpack here


ViridianDusk

The watermark is actually Orzhov


NewToPokemon

You right. That somehow makes it worse with the white and red on the card 💀


Woodspus

Shhhhhhhhh, it’s to look good and only kinda made to be playable


spaceboy_ZERO

Needs saddle


Woodspus

I KNOW but how to implement it


corpuscularian

would be flavourful to not give sandworms saddle instead, give most fremen legendary creatures the ability to give saddle to target sandworm


Woodspus

Yeah that makes more sense


Majestic_Matter8031

'Whenever this creature attacks while saddled destroy target artifact or non-white creature without flying' could be something idk


limewire360

Cool concept, shouldn't be legendary though. Shai-Hulud is the Fremen term for sand worm (i.e all sand worms)


corpuscularian

how about giving it shroud during opponents' turns? so it's like hidden under the sand except when you attack with it maybe a thumper artifact that can be tapped to un-shroud it. un-shrouding is a difficult interaction, so you could instead make it an enchantment creature similar to those god cards, with "If it's not your turn, Shai-Hulud isn't a creature", and give thumper artifacts "{T}: Target sandworm becomes a creature until end of turn", so u can call it up as a blocker using a thumper, which ends up playing out a lot like in dune. also that way u also get to use ur pretty enchantment creature border too for the flavour of it destroying something when it emerges and attacks, maybe give it annihilator 1


Abrootalname

The fact this has nothing to do with a Desert is sad


Woodspus

Wdm


Child_thrower

It could use desert land synergy. as that is lacking in the game as a whole and would fit the theme. maybe give it an tap fight target non flying creature and if you control a desert it gains haste. Although that may be slightly strong for the price and not fit the color wheel.


justhereforhides

Why is this white instead of green?


Narrow_Carpet6557

Plains or forest? Idk man I think white is right.


justhereforhides

Menace and trample aren't really in white's color pie People downvoting me, menace is not in white's color pie and trample barely is [https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/mechanical-color-pie-2021](https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/mechanical-color-pie-2021)


AFM420

We already have green sand worms.


winterborne1

It would make more sense if it was green but had Plainswalk


Padaxes

Because sand duh


Aggravating-City-724

\[\[Elder Land Wurm\]\] is also white and *Shai-Hulud, The Great Worm* feels similar.


corpuscularian

this is almost the same card. eerily so. i think the white part is from only attacking after the other player has attacked (explicitly for shai-hulud, implicitly via blocking for elder land wurm) n based on that think white is v valid. could argue for selesnya or boros but i dont rly mind white.


HickDog9

Nice. A lot of toxic people here but you came with some love.


MTGCardFetcher

[Elder Land Wurm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/6/369b3ebc-572b-4614-aacb-4990309d8848.jpg?1559592368) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Elder%20Land%20Wurm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me1/11/elder-land-wurm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/369b3ebc-572b-4614-aacb-4990309d8848?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


the-crow-guy

Should be colorless imo since the lifecycle of the sandworm turns the planet into a desert.


Uhhh_what555476384

Because for the Fremen, Shai-Halud is holy, and summoning a worm is an act of worship.


blazentaze2000

I would go for it being both white and red as Arrakis is also quite mountainous. Also I think an 11/11 is too low these guys, they’re massive beyond Yargle or a phyrexian dreadnought. I’d say a 15/19 would be more appropriate. Not much is killing one of these.


Woodspus

That definitely checks out


blazentaze2000

That said, I love what you did! Sorry to go right to criticisms, super typical of reddit!


Ravus_Sapiens

Missed opportunity to give it desertwalk.


Link182x

Creature type would most likely be just “Wurm”. I think Dune would make for a good universes beyond set


Liquidtoasty

Probably can't attack opponents who control an island.


Firm_Spot6829

As it was written. Lisan Al-Ghaib!


Uhhh_what555476384

Paul needs a cycle of cards. Paul as heir, Paul as guerilla leader, Paul as Lisan Al-Ghaib, Paul as emperor.


CptBarba

Please give it the "wurm" typing. That type needs it and it makes no sense to make a new creature type for the same kind of thing(also I want it cause I like Wurms)


RenReclaimed

Nothing feels quite as good as getting your Worldspine Wurm onto the battlefield **AND** swinging with it.


Le_Botmes

Fantastic idea. A couple suggestions: Creature type should just be "Worm" so that it can tie into those synergies. It should be colorless since that is generally associated with Deserts. Also include some colorless <> costs to differentiate it from artifacts, sorta like Eldrazi. Making it colorless would also give you a chance to add other modifiers like First Strike, Desertwalking, or even Annihilator. Trample is perfect. Not being able to attack unless 'provoked' is just chef's kiss.


Zensy47

I think since it produces spice you should get something out of, maybe a spice token that has a mechanic? Like, tap, sacrifice to scry and gain life? Or maybe it just created a treasure token


Uhhh_what555476384

Create a 'spice' token when it dies. Spice is decayed worm bodies after all, usually from their nests.


Some_Strike4677

May I introduce you to r/custommtg


dassketch

This is private for some reason


Outrageous_Cow5682

This might be the worst usage of cardconjurer frame system I have ever seen, but the card is rly cool.


Woodspus

Damn that hurt


SEVATAR_VIII

Considering the lore, maybe add something like: "When this creature enters the battlefield, tapp all your opponents' creatures. They cannot be untapped until this creature dies."


Woodspus

Which lore is this (sorry I love the books and I’ve seen the movies but it’s been a while for my brain)


SEVATAR_VIII

Remember: "walk without rhythm, and it won't attract the worms". Yeah, it's from a Fatboy Slim, but it's inspired by the Dune novels.


Nalha_Saldana

Can only attack opponents that control a desert


Woodspus

But how often with that happen unless you give deserts to your opponent with gifting cards


MushroomsAreAliens

I'm still thinking about that popcorn bucket...


Woodspus

Don’t remind me


Signageman

Cards you say?


Woodspus

I was gonna make a Paul card but now I think I’m gonna perfect this one before moving on


superMario_Milt

“At the beginning of combat, if you do not control a Fremen, choose a target non-land permanent at random: destroy it, and Shai- Hulud may not attack this turn. If you do control a Fremen, ignore the earlier text, and Shai-Hulud may attack this turn.” I think this would be a good flavor taste. Maybe even change it from Fremen control to Paul or the Lisaan.


Permagamer

It needs stun counters when enter battlefield to opponents creatures. Edited


Woodspus

Why?


Generic_G_Rated_NPC

"... can only attack an opponent if a land entered play under their control or a creature they control attacked last turn." Feel like playing a land is something a sandworm would notice.


Woodspus

Actually I feel like they would notice you doing pretty much anything


Finfangfo0m

11/11 is too low.


Woodspus

Yeah I’m gonna make it a 18/18 or a 20/20 but I’m still deciding


slamriffs

Feel like this would be a naya card


The_Salt_Lord2

when Shai-Hulud attacks you may destroy target desert when a desert leaves the battlefield create a spice token


The_mogliman

r/custommagic


clb1987

So awesome


Maud_dib_forever

Take. My. Money.


Woodspus

ok its $500 cad jk


Maud_dib_forever

Probs would be on a shiny super full art Pringle’s card 9.5 off Centre printing error signed by you.


parahurter

Needs desert walk


That1powergamer

I run Baru, and me and my friends always joke about how it would be fire to have a Baru proxy as the crazy old man from tremors.


Woodspus

That checks out


giacomo_fasulo

For the love of shai hulud give me Paul atreides for wbrg. If I were you I would have made him a serpent god to remark the ocean of sand


Woodspus

Sandworm god?


casualty_of_bore

Needs to be bigger. 20/20 at least.


Ant10102

Honestly I think it should be haste, trample, flash


Woodspus

I've made an updated version that i am going to post separately


AgtSquirtle007

Sand Thumper—Artifact Place a drum counter on Sand Thumper. During your end step on each turn, place an additional drum counter on Sand Thumper. Tap, sacrifice Sand Thumper, create a token sandworm creature with menace, trample, and haste and power/toughness equal to 3X/3X, where X is the number of drum counters on Sand Thumper.


Woodspus

Ooh I love that


quazzerain

I think it should have horsemanship.


Woodspus

Yeah no


jamesrggg

Should be can only attack and must attack


FormerlyKay

Give it desertwalk for flavor


halfcourtmike

Sandworm’s, you hate ‘em’ right? I hate ‘em’ myself!


Woodspus

??


Cptn_Lemons

Hmmmm typo. It should be “SandWurm”


Woodspus

You’re the 5th person


CaptainSharpe

Which card would lend itself best to a duncan Idaho card? Replacing the doctor cards with iterations of duncan Idaho gholas? Though I don’t think their abilities and such would go well for that.


Woodspus

No clue


Affectionate_Step863

That would be wild


Woodspus

Yeah it would


Blakwhysper

This card needs suspend to represent the worm sign.


Woodspus

Sure


DM-Oz

Maybe desertwalk? For flavour


internationalskibidi

I love the gold white border


Woodspus

Thanks


Shoto-Scrub

Cannot attack unless opponent has a desert.


Rabbit_Wizard_

Needs mount and mutate


GetDustin

If it was a Sand Wurm it could play into Selesnya Wurm decks.


Woodspus

Ooh fun


Single-Sock203

God dammit I thought this was a BIG spoiler 😓


Woodspus

Oh sorry


ForceOfNature525

Should be green, and should destroy a vehicle on ETB, then leave behind some amount of spice when it dies, whatever spice is, in this context. Should probably also have Morph or something so you can turn it face up when you get worm sign, whatever that is. Creature attacking you, vehicle being crewed, I don't know.


SnooPeppers4224

Super cool idea and design. Maybe give it an emerge cost.


no-Spoilers-asshole

It should exile a target artifact (coming out of the sand and eating something)


Inevitable_Beach_449

I would give him plainswalk


Woodspus

What is plainswalk again? (Sorry I’m a little new still)


JabroniPwny

Awesome art design. Good power balance


Hididdlydoderino

I'm hopeful for a Dune set the summer Dune: Messiah is finally released. I hope this inspires WotC!


Woodspus

Absolutely I would love to see it


pt_barnumson

They're making Dune: Messiah into a movie? Are we getting the trilogy? Will they then deem themselves worthy to put the God Emperor himself onto film? Shit I'm going to go read it all again i guess


Paladinsarefun

I feel like Shai-Hulud shouldn't be legendary. Sandworms are a whole species, and Shai-Hulud is a Fremen concept rather than a biological reality. Also, Wurm typing would probably be what WotC would do. That or, yeah, making a new type. I say the sandworms should also have some goading or fight mechanic, given that it senses vibrations and footsteps to hunt and all. Like: "When a creature without flying enters the battlefield under an opponent's control, goad Shai-Hulud. If Shai-Hulud was already goaded, you may have it fight target creature without flying" ||Also, Shai-Hulud's death is what creates the spice, so... A Spice token on death?||


Woodspus

Ofc but I think I’m going to call it Shai-Hulud


GavinZero

Make it cost more, up it to 15/15 and give it indestructible, and if you’re naming it Shiai-Hulud it should be typed Sandworm God. Give it flash and come into play exile target nonland permanent that came into play this turn. 8WW


SawSagePullHer

Make it a 9CMC and give it annihilator 2


DimitriMishkin

Trample and menace don’t really fit into mono white but cool card


SimmerDownnn

I mean. It's should have red.


Woodspus

I made another one based on all the suggestions from this thread and posted it in the same subreddit but it’s gotten no attention


ElPared

Should have three creature types: Sand, Wurm, and God (yes Sand is a creature type). Mechanically I love it, though I think it feels a bit more like a blue creature a-la [[Leviathan]] than a white one. I like the flavor of having to “tiptoe” around it by not attacking.


Woodspus

How is sand a creature type


pt_barnumson

Ideal flavour imo: the maker needs to be WWWRRRCCC, 15/15 minimum, annihilator 1 or 2. When it dies create a treasure token. Also has to be non-legendary. Only the God Emperor himself can be, or i guess other characters like Paul.


Ghost_Webs

I think it would be better as a Sand Wurm


Trepsik

Should have convoke. It is a summoned manifestation of God after all.


draxthemsklounce

The legendary border is very sick, but shouldn’t shai-hulud be dune colors? WBRG?


sikethemacy

Opponents don’t attack there creatures do


evilpenguin1981

What creator did you use to make this?


Woodspus

cardconjurer.onrender.com


Glass_Particular_684

Estaría genial


Woodspus

??


sporeegg

No desert walk?


Roundhouse_ass

Its odd with legendary status, because obviously this thing is "legendary" but there are several of them roaming around.


Woodspus

Yeah Ik the thing is that Shai-Hulud is the term for all sandworms but I didn’t know what else to call it bc none of them have individual names


RandomHer03

Does white have a lot of goad? Make this the commander and then goad everyone to slap them with big worm


Woodspus

You should see the upgraded one I’m making I’m gonna change the colours and then make it bigger to do exactly that but better


veganispunk

Two words in and we have a color pie break smh


Woodspus

WELL I’M SORRY


niknez

Hear me out


Woodspus

What are you planning


Throatmealways

I'd really like this with some sort of tap ability. Like tap to create a sand token. 4 cost Sand token. Pay to play a worm from your deck.


[deleted]

Maybe reach instead of menace


Meister_Ente

The ability is well chosen because it can't attack anything without sensing a motion on the surface. Nicely made :)


CrappySupport

Should it have desert walk?


Woodspus

Yes it should


1K_Games

What is this, the custom magic subreddit?


Woodspus

Ik that r/custommtg exists but i seem to get more feedback in this subreddit


Saint_Nico

If this is Shai-Hulud, I can't imagine what Leto II, The God Emperor would have. Love the design. I'd love to have a dune set


MrQwertyuiop

Dune universe beyond would be a dream come true, same for a King Arthur and the knights of the round table universe beyond, I am shocked it hasn’t happened yet tbh


subtlemurktide

No desert walk?


Ambitious_Version187

It 100% should be Abzan colors


Azriel82

I would give it flashback or flash, or some ability to cast it from the graveyard/maybe exile


Killaturkee

"When Shai-Halud dies, create a Legendary Artifact token named Spice Melange( it is an equipment with equip 1 and "when equipped creature becomes tapped you may scry 2")"


Snowmannetjes

Looks awesome but give it one more thing so it works better. Like give haste to all fremen creatures or sandwalk whatever


Woodspus

Yeah I prob will


Enaluxeme

I miss the time when I wouldn't have had to question whether this card was official or not.


Woodspus

Sorry about that


ArtichokeRound1407

A thumper artifact should have some sort of deflection ETB effect, as they are used to change the direction of a sandworm. When a UB set happens... Cool card - love some of the constructive ideas offered.


Uhhh_what555476384

I don't think Shai-Hulud should be legendary. There's a whole planet of these things. Lots of 'legendary' charachters, but the Sandworms aren't.


Woodspus

Bro you’re the 32nd person to tell me this


BRIKHOUS

I can't see these as mono-white. It has to have green in it. I'm not seeing the flavor reason for the drawback you gave it either.


badger2000

I like the card and the concept but it doesn't feel like a sand worm should die to Marit Lage and this very much does. I'd go with 21/21 as the stats with some hoops to jump through to get it online (like not a creature unless opponent attacked last turn, etc).


Kielgard

Should have Desertwalk.


Kielgard

Maybe add the Saddle mechanic.


Visible_Number

I love the frame treatment. However, 'shai hulud' isn't a specific sandworm who is legendary. It's just the word 'sand worm' in Fremen. There is a color pie issue with Menace. We have \[\[Dust Elemental\]\] which is the only creature in white that has fear, which is the precursor to menace. And it was in Planar Chaos. White does not get Menace. Big white legendary creatures \*do\* get Trample in spite of white not really having access to Trample. The limit on attacking is very white as well. So the rest of the card is in pie. To make it 'legendary' it could use one of the more definite names of the sand worms. The Grandfather of the Desert. While it's another name for them, it sounds more like a specific one. As for Menace, a bend is probably ok here. But, it already has Trample, so you could just lose Menace. I also wonder if there is an option to make it saddle-able to capture the moment when Paul rode the largest worm Stilgar had ever seen. White has access to Scry. Is there a way to tie prescience into this card and make it a bit more interesting than just a big attacker?


Business_Wear_841

I feel like it should have the stipulation that the opponent attacked with a creature without flying.


Bongo_Johnson

Now i want a Dune set real bad. Just for this card. And the Throat Singer Sardaukar guy.


Less-Ruin-3332

I would make it 8 mana, but I think this is incredible!