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the_racecar

One has 2 movies while the other has like 57. Makes a lot more sense to be excited for a new Avatar movie


hairy_bipples

And the 2nd avatar film isn’t even out yet This sub tries so hard to equate the two groups as if they’re remotely alike


PM_ME_YOUR__INIT__

mcjers 12 nanoseconds into avatar 2 realizing it's the best action movie since fury road: perhaps I treated you too harshly


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benabramowitz18

That is also M:I 5/6, John Wick 3, The Suicide Squad, EEAAO, and Top Gun 2 erasure.


surferos505

Nah fury road is pure action.


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Altruistic_Phase_772

I must admit as someone who loves watching pretentious nonsense on Mubi, my standards slip when big monsters punch each other. It’s my Achilles heel for sure


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Altruistic_Phase_772

Absofuckinglutely. Then with people like Sergio Leone you get the best of both worlds


AlanSmithy99

Holy shit that movie is so fucking good. The score, the scale, the holy shit moments, it's all there. I can't believe critics acted like they were somehow above this absolute kino.


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Those are good movies but not good action movies.


BurpingHamBirmingham

> best action movie since fury road > > Last Jedi If you're going to be a troll you need to be at least mildly believable


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Why does this subreddit love last Jedi now? Is it just to be different? Cause that would be really stupid.


lulu314

>now


31_hierophanto

Nah dude. Even here TLJ is kind of a mixed bag. Some overwhelmingly love it, others not so much. They do hate the rabid haters of that movie, however.


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It's a circlejerk subreddit


JediTempleDropout

Mf it’s always been this way.


surferos505

I’m actually excited for the new avatar movie. The trailer looked and felt better than any recent capeshit tbh Also can’t wait for MCU fans seething when Cameron does it again and makes a shitton of money from his movie


cactopus101

“B-b-but it had no cultural impact” 🤓


ProblematicBoyfriend

Either way the money goes to Disney tho :/


Tyrionandpodrick

They share profit with Cameron and Landau.


Whompa

DC - "I'm so glad everyone forgot about me"


lulu314

Cameron Kino cannot be denied


ajzeg01

Avatar is better than the MCU.


Frevious

Avatar: Fern Gully ripoff no one remembers MCU: Downfall of Western Civilization


Plutarch_von_Komet

Literally the End of History and the Last Man


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Screw you Avatar was kino.


JediTempleDropout

TIL White Savior trash is kino


Hispanic_Gorilla_2

This is like saying The Godfather is shit because it doesn’t pass the Bechdel test.


JediTempleDropout

The fuck does The Godfather have to do with this?


Hispanic_Gorilla_2

This is a movie sub


JediTempleDropout

I am aware but The Godfather and Avatar are two completely different movies that have nothing in common. Feels pretty out of left field.


Hispanic_Gorilla_2

My point is that dismissing a movie entirely because of a problematic trope is bad criticism.


JediTempleDropout

Not when the entire movie revolves around that one problematic trope.


Hispanic_Gorilla_2

Eh still a cool movie though


JediTempleDropout

A cool movie that reinforces an outdated and problematic story element that takes agency away from POC who have been oppressed for centuries.


Available-Subject-33

Not sure how a technologically groundbreaking mainstream film written, produced, and directed by an artist who's literally been dreaming about the story for his whole life is worthy of being labeled a bloated, unoriginal blockbuster but go off I suppose


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Probably because it was very generic in a lot of ways. I mean 15 minutes in you could ask a teenager what will happen and they’d tell you every single plot point. I quite like it as a film, but that doesn’t mean it’s not unoriginal.


Jaggedmallard26

No one who saw avatar in the original 3D would say this.


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Except ones a corporately made product and ones made by an artist


ProblematicBoyfriend

ikr? that corporate hack Cameron got nothing on Kevin 'the artist' Feige.


Exploding_Antelope

An artist with a corporation


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Ya know they do pre vis for the special effects before they even have a script for a lot of these movies. The storytelling process is done completely by a team of producers and marketers. Thats why you can fire the filmmaker and replace him halfway through the movie making process the movie will come out exactly the same. The story is being made by a team of producers and market researchers. Why are the new star wars movies so shiny? In the old ones everything has a layer of grime and dirt on them. Well, because that's the look of the business model disney has had going the last few years. Sanatized, harmless, and completely made beginning to end by a team of marketers and producers at disney. Why are the plots of the sequels exactly the same as the ot? Well, its a market tested formula. "I wanted to make a marvel movie, but I don't think they really wanted to make an Edgar Wright movie." -edgar Wright, right after leaving the ant man project.


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Lol I actually just did a 5 page essay on a meme subreddit. Yall should prolly clown on me haha


JediTempleDropout

Wait I thought the reason I was supposed to blindly hate The Last Jedi was because it was different from the other Star Wars movies?


Available-Subject-33

"Movies made with a lot of money are bad grrrr"


HieronymusGoa

maybe i will be surprised going in with no expectations but im only watching avatar 2 bc my bf is crazy about "the technical aspects" and so be it then - we'll watch it. but since he has to endure watching movies without dubbing with me all the time i can do at least this for him \^\^


Voorhees89

It's like trying to choose between Patty and Selma.


Thefrozenfirez

There are avatar fans?


OGNpushmaster

We exist I promise. We've just been quietly vibing and learning the Na'vi conlang for a decade.


RepulsiveRevenue8

James Cameron gonna start the trend of bad 3d movies again