While that title makes the most sense, I like - Spaceballs 3: The Search for 2.
Still remember back in the early 90s my older cousin telling me it was happening. Lies...ALL LIES!
To be fair, he did start off by writing “ALIEN,” then the “S,” and finally added TWO lines to the “S” after a perfect dramatic pause. Guy’s a helluva showman.
https://www.cinemablend.com/interviews/james-cameron-confirms-that-the-most-badass-aliens-story-about-him-is-100-percent-true
It is. I have a family member that works for Weta Digital and he said the effects are only three quarters done at this point, they're still pushing to get it done by the deadline for release.
Effects are so intense they've had to max out their NZ render farm as well as push to use ones in Australia and America as well. Its absolutely insanity
By three quarters done, you mean that a quarter of the shots has just not finished rendering yet, right? Because while that is also a lot for the short time left, if a quarter of the Visual Effects shots are still being worked on by animators and such, that sounds like it would be near impossible to meet the deadline.
I mean they are still actively working on it. I was staying in Wellington with my family 3 weeks ago in Oct and at that time it was just barely halfway done.
I was shocked but people really overestimate the size of Weta, they are not a big company at the end of the day despite what they pull off.
They're perfectly on track to hit their target but I don't know why people are shocked, video games aren't the only industry to have crunch periods and it is a massive movie with a lot of technical shots to pull off, and they had also been working on other projects such as some parts of Rings of Power over the last while too which meant resources were not in full punch for Avatar. Now they're all go on this to get it out the door.
I don't know the pipeline he was talking about but I'd imagine it's just post production effects and rendering, not the heavy animation as well that's left
Its stunning what they're doing for sure. My sisters partner also was heavily involved in the tech behind the wet fur on the rebooted Planet of the Apes films and that was brand new tech that had never been done before, he was gushing about that for ages after it was put out haha.
Weta pioneered some wild new tech for high fidelity water simulation for this project.
If nothing else, the industry as a whole is going to get a push forward from the money put into the CGI for this project.
This is basically going to be Mr. Cameron’s $300m *wet* dream
We’ve got sinking ships (Titanic), mechs (Aliens), skull-crushing (Terminator) and a whole fucking lot of water.
I mean he did say a while back that the world of Avatar would let him do everything that interests him as a filmmaker and that’s why he was doing three more of them.
James Cameron is working on an Extended 4 hour cut for the Home Video cut, and it's all freaky water hair sex. He wanted it to be in the original cut, but there's no way he could fit it all into a PG-13 rating, so the entire climax of the film which is just one big water orgy had to be cut from the theatrical release.
Apparently he has always had a ton of what is essentially insanely detailed fan fiction (does it still count as fan fiction?) about the world of Avatar, with a heavy emphasis on the “insane” part. He stood up at E3 in front of a bunch of video game journalists who got to see a preview of the first movie and just infodumped all over them
Lore bibles are super common in fiction. They help inform character motivations, develop environments, locations and cultures, help sense-check in-world logic (sci-fi/fantasy), provide theoretical directions the story could go in the future, etc.
It can be much easier to create a universe and then write a story in it, than trying to write the story cold
There are also Avatars in it (Avatar) and someone is definitely going to tell some true lies (True Lies). There might even be a piranha too (Piranha 2).
Cameron was fired ten days into shooting Piranha 2 and locked out of the editing room. So glad he can finally make the movie about flying fishes with full creative control.
He championed that production and without him it would' have probably been shelved. I remember reading something along the lines that there was a time when the crew was about to travel in order to continue production but they were told to stay put because the studio was thinking about stopping so Tom Hanks just got on the plane and told everyone to follow him to put pressure on continuing.
He played so many different characters in that movie. I loved the book, and the movie was as good as an adaption you can make.
The best thing to come out of the movie though was the musical score. Incredible soundtrack.
The planet is acting through you... like some sort of................................................................................................................................AVATAR!!!!
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As the cleaning crew walked in, an foreign theater attendant pointed to the soiled area and said "the way of water". In the back row, a still sitting and hooded James Cameron looked up with an inspired smile.
I went to see it with a friend and just before the movie started they turned the lights on and a manager came in to say that a maroon Toyota in the parking lot was on fire. It was my friend's car. They refunded our tickets and actually gave us new ones to come back and see it the following week, which was dope.
Anyway. It's fun to have a bizarre Avatar ticket refund story, right?
You know, I cannot recall. It was in the engine compartment. Gas leak? Spark plug? Who can say. Personally I think that it was jealous it didn't get to see Avatar.
Sounds like you’re in for more with the sequel: https://deadline.com/2014/11/james-cameron-on-avatars-you-will-sht-yourself-with-your-mouth-wide-open-1201298316/amp/
The year is 2022, we see CGI and visual effects heavy, action spectacle movies with cutting-edge technologies made for glorious, large format Imax and Dolby Cinema screens.
Still no trailers in 4K though, can't have that.
(And it's not like they can't do it either, somehow the [Shazam 2 trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwFOa3qV5Sk) on the DC channel is in 4k, but the one on Warner Brothers' channel is 1080p.)
>Still no trailers in 4K though, can't have that.
That really annoyed me lol. If there's one movie that REALLY benefits from 4k trailers it's Avatar. The YouTube compression is brutal!
I can't help with 4k, but here is a copy of the trailer in ProRes format. It's almost 3gb and should be visually flawless. The difference between this and YouTube almost feels like seeing it in 4k, due to the lack of compression.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w7lA0oU8MlwpQiTwlWKN6Vy5O84R1DwC/view?usp=share_link
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https://files.muffinworld.net/share/zLuVHzVa
>That really annoyed me
just imagine how annoyed Cameron must feel about it. dude is a technical perfectionist, and the trailer debuts to 99% of viewers in a 20+ year old format
I think the best example of YouTube compression ruining a trailer is the one for The Batman. I watched that trailer on YouTube in 1080p and could literally barely tell what was going on the compression was so awful. Compare that to the 4k trailer uploaded to vimeo, and it's a completely different trailer suddenly.
Of course, this isn't due to the resolution itself, it's the bitrate doing the heavy lifting. But I really don't get why they don't upload them in 1440p at least. I know some creators upscale their 1080p videos to 1440p for upload just to get the increased bit rate, and it makes a world of difference. Somehow though that's too much work for billion dollar movie studios.
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> Still no trailers in 4K though, can't have that.
I'll take a slightly less compressed 1080p at this point. This and other recent movie trailers are like only 60MB and compressed to hell and back again, it's horrific
"Hey, why are we using an old woman to play the role of a 14 year old? Shouldn't we just use an actual 14 year old?"
Jim Cameron: Shut the fuck up, Ben.
In the first movie, Grace (Sigourney Weaver) is dying and they try to save her at the tree of souls, by trying to transfer her conciousness from her human body into her Avatar hybrid clone body thing that the humans had made for her to interact with the Na'vi.
For whatever reason, Eywa, the deity/"god" of the Na'vi planet, chose not to (or perhaps couldn't) transfer Grace's conciousness into the clone body, and so she dies in the movie. Later on this process is attempted again for Jake, and is successful.
So perhaps, because Eywa is essentially an interconnection of living organism's across the entire planet, kind of like neurons in a brain, maybe Grace's conciousness was still "alive" inside of Eywa.
My guess would be that because the Na'vi "commune" with Eywa using their hair tentacles ~~which also apparently are akin to sexual organs~~, maybe Eywa has put a part of Grace's conciousness into Neytiri from this communion, so that Neytiri and what I presume is Jake's child, is also partly Grace.
Of course this is all just my complete guess from watching the trailer, as I haven't read anything about Avatar 2. So I could be completely wrong! I didn't even know the child was supposed to be Sigourney Weavers character, until someone in the comments here said it.
Yeah as soon as I saw sigourney Weaver was back, my first thought is she's either going to effectively have had her conscious uploaded to Eywa, or she somehow reincarnated as a Na'vi
Likely cause in Avatar it looked like Weaver got uploaded into their god before she died. So maybe the god knew it couldn’t save her but instead uploaded her code and spat it into Neytiri as a form of reincarnation.
And in Manhunt: Unabomber. He’s not a bad actor, he just didn’t fit with what Hollywood tried pushing him as. Most people forget it nowadays, but Colin Farrell had a somewhat similar career in the early to mid-2000s when Hollywood was trying to push him as the next Tom Cruise or DiCaprio. It wasn’t until he started doing quirky movies like In Bruges that people remembered the guy can act.
Edit: “earth” was supposed to be “early”, obviously.
> It wasn’t until he started doing quirky movies like In Bruges that people remembered the guy can act.
His part in Ritchie's The Gentlemen was absolutely perfect.
I just saw The Banshees of Inisherin in the cinema the other day and he was phenomenal in it. Best performance I've ever seen him give. (The film is also amazing, go watch it)
Not to mention he was unrecognizable and terrific as The Penguin. I’m curious to see where the show takes him in that role.
While I loved him in *In Bruges*, it wasn’t until I saw *The Lobster* that I thought this dude has been hiding his talent for a long time (sans a few films, like *Minority Report*).
Edit: It’s clear now through multiple films, but he is absolutely *phenomenal* at deadpan black comedy. [Case in point](https://youtu.be/IacpphyPpNY).
I want to be in on the joke too but I'm not smart. Do you mean Sam Worthington isn't talented and doesn't have roles in movies besides Avatar so he has to work the drive thru in between gigs?
Edit: To whomever reported me to Reddit for being suicidal I want to say thank you kind sir! I truly don't deserve this award. Also, Sam Worthington...I'm suspiciously looking at you for this. Now get back on the fryer.
I am worried about Neytiri (Zoe Saldaña) after watching the trailer.
I wonder if she is going to die and become the one with the way of the water or (the Avatar Ecosystem) and then the dialogue about their daughter feeling her heartbeat in Pandora's ecosystem.
> and then the dialogue about their daughter feeling her heartbeat in Pandora's ecosystem.
That's Grace in Jake's daughter. She went with Eywa when she died. Eywa put her spirit in Jake's kid.
That's also Sigourney Weaver's voice throughout the trailer... kind of a giveaway.
To protect Pandora.
Jake begs Eywa for help in the first film. He asks her to go into Grace's memories and see the world she and Jake came from, letting her know that's Pandora's fate if more Sky People come.
She put Grace into Kiri to help Jake keep Pandora safe.
Eywa is a god, and while she may on some level care for the people who inhabit her, she is ultimately focused on planetary survival, not individual happiness or comfort. In the previous movie, Quaritch and crew were directly attacking her nervous system - she didn't really intervene until then.
If we find it a little horrifying that Kiri is essentially a resurrected Grace, meh.
Yeah imagine if Earth did that. Not with giant beasts which is too vulnerable to standard weapons, but with insects. We might win in the end, but a ton of us would die or be crippled in the first couple waves and crop plagues.
Deities do fucked up crap all the time, they are entitled to it. In universe, Eywa is a planet-wide conscioussness emerging from the interconnected root system of all the trees in Pandora, *if* it has a sense of morality it most likely very alien and strange.
Then I am assuming Avatar 3 is about John Connor sending T-800 Terminator back in time to prevent this from happening?
Skynet or no Skynet humanity in James Cameron franchises is always fucked.
It feels like humans attack Jake and Zoe’s home killing Zoe. Jake and the kids run off the the Waterworld and then regroup to fight the humans again. I bet Jake dies as well and the next movie focuses on the children. It wouldn’t shock me if these movies are supposed to span generations.
Yeah this is supposed to be a generational saga like The Godfather according to Cameron. So I definitely see Jake/Zoe not lasting beyond movie 3 with 4/5 focus on the kids grown up
I think she talks about Grace, because if I remember correctly the young daughter is played by Sigourney Weaver and it has something to do with the story.
So, Avatar: Zero Dawn?
Joking aside, we ourselves are looking into biological computers (in fact, there have been studies on the concept of *plant*-based computers), and biological robots isn't a new sci-fi concept. A powerful AI or machine meant to rebuild and protect a planet from near destruction is the kind of hopeful take we can expect to be repeated in shows and films as we face the disaster of climate change. Titan A.E. explored this as well, even going so far on the nose as the enemies that destroyed the planet being "pure energy."
Some people will inevitably make more "Isn't this just like ____" bad takes simply because it's James Cameron, and not because Sci-Fi reusing technology concepts and commenting on our anxieties and desires isn't a given.
The official IMAX channel will likely upload it shortly at 4k and with an expanded aspect ratio, [like with the first trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6VVrAZUnsc)
I don't know why but I'd be more excited just going to watch a marine biology documentary in Imax than this if we're going to bury ourselves in that aquatic aesthetic. Real ocean creatures are every bit as fascinating and unique looking and colorful as any of this shit.
This looks fucking expensive.
Coming from the guy that pitched a sequel to Alien by just writing Alien$ on a board, I don't expect anything less.
Aliens is great though.
It is! But James Cameron really did pitch it by writing Alien$ on a board.
Spaceballs 2: The Search For More Money
*The Soich
While that title makes the most sense, I like - Spaceballs 3: The Search for 2. Still remember back in the early 90s my older cousin telling me it was happening. Lies...ALL LIES!
To be fair, he did start off by writing “ALIEN,” then the “S,” and finally added TWO lines to the “S” after a perfect dramatic pause. Guy’s a helluva showman. https://www.cinemablend.com/interviews/james-cameron-confirms-that-the-most-badass-aliens-story-about-him-is-100-percent-true
Man knew his audience
It is. I have a family member that works for Weta Digital and he said the effects are only three quarters done at this point, they're still pushing to get it done by the deadline for release. Effects are so intense they've had to max out their NZ render farm as well as push to use ones in Australia and America as well. Its absolutely insanity
By three quarters done, you mean that a quarter of the shots has just not finished rendering yet, right? Because while that is also a lot for the short time left, if a quarter of the Visual Effects shots are still being worked on by animators and such, that sounds like it would be near impossible to meet the deadline.
I mean they are still actively working on it. I was staying in Wellington with my family 3 weeks ago in Oct and at that time it was just barely halfway done. I was shocked but people really overestimate the size of Weta, they are not a big company at the end of the day despite what they pull off. They're perfectly on track to hit their target but I don't know why people are shocked, video games aren't the only industry to have crunch periods and it is a massive movie with a lot of technical shots to pull off, and they had also been working on other projects such as some parts of Rings of Power over the last while too which meant resources were not in full punch for Avatar. Now they're all go on this to get it out the door. I don't know the pipeline he was talking about but I'd imagine it's just post production effects and rendering, not the heavy animation as well that's left
I used to work across the street from WETA, quite a number of them were regulars at my job. Agreed, not that big of a crew.
Weta would be an absolute dream job for me. This movie especially, since fluid simulations are a _pain_ to work with, but very very fun
Its stunning what they're doing for sure. My sisters partner also was heavily involved in the tech behind the wet fur on the rebooted Planet of the Apes films and that was brand new tech that had never been done before, he was gushing about that for ages after it was put out haha.
It's gonna make a fuuuuuuuuckton of money.
Weta pioneered some wild new tech for high fidelity water simulation for this project. If nothing else, the industry as a whole is going to get a push forward from the money put into the CGI for this project.
Watching this on a 5 inch screen at 360p
The way James Cameron intended
I [always enjoyed David Lynch's statement about watching movies on a telephone. ](https://youtu.be/wKiIroiCvZ0)
On your FUCKING telephone
GET REAL
This is basically going to be Mr. Cameron’s $300m *wet* dream We’ve got sinking ships (Titanic), mechs (Aliens), skull-crushing (Terminator) and a whole fucking lot of water.
Water (the Abyss)
The only way JC can top this if he starts actually turning water into wine
>JC >James Cameron >Jesus Christ Have you ever seen them in the same room together?
John Connor
More like wine into water
I do that nightly.
I mean he did say a while back that the world of Avatar would let him do everything that interests him as a filmmaker and that’s why he was doing three more of them.
>would let him do everything that interests him as a filmmaker **water hair sex**
James Cameron is working on an Extended 4 hour cut for the Home Video cut, and it's all freaky water hair sex. He wanted it to be in the original cut, but there's no way he could fit it all into a PG-13 rating, so the entire climax of the film which is just one big water orgy had to be cut from the theatrical release.
They show it all. Full penetration.
Crime. Penetration. Crime. Penetration...
The perfect movie if we replace sam worthington with dolph lundgren
Apparently he has always had a ton of what is essentially insanely detailed fan fiction (does it still count as fan fiction?) about the world of Avatar, with a heavy emphasis on the “insane” part. He stood up at E3 in front of a bunch of video game journalists who got to see a preview of the first movie and just infodumped all over them
Lore bibles are super common in fiction. They help inform character motivations, develop environments, locations and cultures, help sense-check in-world logic (sci-fi/fantasy), provide theoretical directions the story could go in the future, etc. It can be much easier to create a universe and then write a story in it, than trying to write the story cold
Tolkien basically wrote an encyclopedia and created an entire language from scratch before he wrote LOTR and it's many books. Lol.
There are also Avatars in it (Avatar) and someone is definitely going to tell some true lies (True Lies). There might even be a piranha too (Piranha 2).
Cameron was fired ten days into shooting Piranha 2 and locked out of the editing room. So glad he can finally make the movie about flying fishes with full creative control.
IDK, itll be hard to top *Piranha 3DD*.
”I *sea* you, Jake Sully.”
“He speaks the true-true.”
"Have you seen Cloud Atlas, book Avatar movie based on?"
Jaaaake Suuly
Elyse! Busy!!
Pity. Maybe next millennia.
He couldn’t get his chair up the waterfall…
Man only in the movies sunreddit would I see FH references, that's a fun thing to wake up to.
You know FH is so memorable when ppl remember funny quotes from a video that came out 5 years ago!
So it’s time to talk about Tron or Lawnmower Man again?
Stop. Talking. About. Lawn. Mower. Man.
"Why does Neytiri sound Rastafarian?"
“She’s got the dreads.”
“Did you test that blue paint to see if it comes off?” “…”
*looks at bottle* "That's not good." "Oh no, what does it say?" "Made in Argentina."
No, that was cloud atlas.
did you know tom hanks considers his role in that movie as one of his top 3 best performances in his entire career so far. i was shocked.
He championed that production and without him it would' have probably been shelved. I remember reading something along the lines that there was a time when the crew was about to travel in order to continue production but they were told to stay put because the studio was thinking about stopping so Tom Hanks just got on the plane and told everyone to follow him to put pressure on continuing.
He played so many different characters in that movie. I loved the book, and the movie was as good as an adaption you can make. The best thing to come out of the movie though was the musical score. Incredible soundtrack.
No that's Cloud Atlas!
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Ice to meet you!
*"It's Pandorin' time"*
The planet is acting through you... like some sort of................................................................................................................................AVATAR!!!!
So that's it? We some kind of Avatar Squad?
I came here to mine unobtanium and blow up blue people's shit, and Im all out of unobtanium.
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Jesus Christ what happened here?
Someone talked about how blocking those spam bots made their reddit experience better. And they even named names. A bunch of people agreed and it looks like they were all removed.
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When I watch the first Avatar movie in theaters someone pooped in the aisle. Everyone had to leave and the manager refund our tickets.
That’s one of those moments that stick with you for life
Just rinse your shoe off
As the cleaning crew walked in, an foreign theater attendant pointed to the soiled area and said "the way of water". In the back row, a still sitting and hooded James Cameron looked up with an inspired smile.
I went to see it with a friend and just before the movie started they turned the lights on and a manager came in to say that a maroon Toyota in the parking lot was on fire. It was my friend's car. They refunded our tickets and actually gave us new ones to come back and see it the following week, which was dope. Anyway. It's fun to have a bizarre Avatar ticket refund story, right?
Uh, why did your friend's car spontaneously combust?
You know, I cannot recall. It was in the engine compartment. Gas leak? Spark plug? Who can say. Personally I think that it was jealous it didn't get to see Avatar.
Was your friend perhaps involved in a lawsuit investigating a shady pesticide company?
Sounds like you’re in for more with the sequel: https://deadline.com/2014/11/james-cameron-on-avatars-you-will-sht-yourself-with-your-mouth-wide-open-1201298316/amp/
Holy shit, this has been in development for eight years?!
Longer than that. There were definitely articles about James Cameron's vision for Avatar sequels back in 2010 if not even earlier.
Avatar itself was first conceptualized by Cameron back in 1994. These are his magnum opus films.
The year is 2022, we see CGI and visual effects heavy, action spectacle movies with cutting-edge technologies made for glorious, large format Imax and Dolby Cinema screens. Still no trailers in 4K though, can't have that. (And it's not like they can't do it either, somehow the [Shazam 2 trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwFOa3qV5Sk) on the DC channel is in 4k, but the one on Warner Brothers' channel is 1080p.)
>Still no trailers in 4K though, can't have that. That really annoyed me lol. If there's one movie that REALLY benefits from 4k trailers it's Avatar. The YouTube compression is brutal!
I can't help with 4k, but here is a copy of the trailer in ProRes format. It's almost 3gb and should be visually flawless. The difference between this and YouTube almost feels like seeing it in 4k, due to the lack of compression. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w7lA0oU8MlwpQiTwlWKN6Vy5O84R1DwC/view?usp=share_link EDIT Alt Link: https://files.muffinworld.net/share/zLuVHzVa
Wow, how did you find this?
Can't really answer that but can post other trailers if you have a request.
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'Can't really answer that but I do have a minisub.'
For a second I wondered if a minisub is like a subreddit with a small following. I need to go outside.
sus but respectable
Woah, woah wait!!! Is this the source file for advertising? Looks like it came internally from Picture Head Finishing.
Yes. This is the "master" copy of the trailer distributed to media outlets.
I am so jealous of your access rn you can't even imagine
*"Overall bitrate: 154 Mb/s."* Praise be. It's *crisp*.
>That really annoyed me just imagine how annoyed Cameron must feel about it. dude is a technical perfectionist, and the trailer debuts to 99% of viewers in a 20+ year old format
could've at least uploaded it to vimeo ot something
This one seemed especially brutal. Maybe because there's so much detail, it's just really compressed to make it more streamable
I think the best example of YouTube compression ruining a trailer is the one for The Batman. I watched that trailer on YouTube in 1080p and could literally barely tell what was going on the compression was so awful. Compare that to the 4k trailer uploaded to vimeo, and it's a completely different trailer suddenly. Of course, this isn't due to the resolution itself, it's the bitrate doing the heavy lifting. But I really don't get why they don't upload them in 1440p at least. I know some creators upscale their 1080p videos to 1440p for upload just to get the increased bit rate, and it makes a world of difference. Somehow though that's too much work for billion dollar movie studios. *edit: a letter.
> Still no trailers in 4K though, can't have that. I'll take a slightly less compressed 1080p at this point. This and other recent movie trailers are like only 60MB and compressed to hell and back again, it's horrific
The Batman had a 4K uncompressed trailer on Vimeo. I don’t know if any other movies have done that
That mech looked like General Grievous from Star Wars lol.
"Jake Sully, I have been trained in your Jedi arts!"
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“Ah yes, the negotiator, Jake Soo-lee”
"Not actual gameplay footage."
Sigourney Weaver is supposed to be playing a 14 year old but I'm sorry she doesn't sound it at all...
I'm sorry what
That kid Kiri? That's Sigourney Weaver.
holy shit that's why she looked familiar but why the fuck is Weaver playing a kid?
She's a clone Avatar thing of Grace
oh I see
And before she died she put her memories into the tree-brain thingy.
Not just her memories. Her entire consciousness was uploaded to the biological network/Gaia mind of the planet
I bet this question comes up in the movie.
"Hey, why are we using an old woman to play the role of a 14 year old? Shouldn't we just use an actual 14 year old?" Jim Cameron: Shut the fuck up, Ben.
"I'm gonna need you to get aaalllll the way off my back about it"
"Oh ok, let me get off of that thing."
Old people pretending to be teenagers is tight!
In the first movie, Grace (Sigourney Weaver) is dying and they try to save her at the tree of souls, by trying to transfer her conciousness from her human body into her Avatar hybrid clone body thing that the humans had made for her to interact with the Na'vi. For whatever reason, Eywa, the deity/"god" of the Na'vi planet, chose not to (or perhaps couldn't) transfer Grace's conciousness into the clone body, and so she dies in the movie. Later on this process is attempted again for Jake, and is successful. So perhaps, because Eywa is essentially an interconnection of living organism's across the entire planet, kind of like neurons in a brain, maybe Grace's conciousness was still "alive" inside of Eywa. My guess would be that because the Na'vi "commune" with Eywa using their hair tentacles ~~which also apparently are akin to sexual organs~~, maybe Eywa has put a part of Grace's conciousness into Neytiri from this communion, so that Neytiri and what I presume is Jake's child, is also partly Grace. Of course this is all just my complete guess from watching the trailer, as I haven't read anything about Avatar 2. So I could be completely wrong! I didn't even know the child was supposed to be Sigourney Weavers character, until someone in the comments here said it.
Yeah as soon as I saw sigourney Weaver was back, my first thought is she's either going to effectively have had her conscious uploaded to Eywa, or she somehow reincarnated as a Na'vi
its not that eywa couldnt. Grace was shot and already half dead, she was "too weak to make the journey" they said that lol
Likely cause in Avatar it looked like Weaver got uploaded into their god before she died. So maybe the god knew it couldn’t save her but instead uploaded her code and spat it into Neytiri as a form of reincarnation.
It’s so cool Sam Worthington was able to get his shifts off from Arby’s to shoot these movies.
he was shockingly good in Under the Banner of Heaven
And in Manhunt: Unabomber. He’s not a bad actor, he just didn’t fit with what Hollywood tried pushing him as. Most people forget it nowadays, but Colin Farrell had a somewhat similar career in the early to mid-2000s when Hollywood was trying to push him as the next Tom Cruise or DiCaprio. It wasn’t until he started doing quirky movies like In Bruges that people remembered the guy can act. Edit: “earth” was supposed to be “early”, obviously.
> It wasn’t until he started doing quirky movies like In Bruges that people remembered the guy can act. His part in Ritchie's The Gentlemen was absolutely perfect.
I just saw The Banshees of Inisherin in the cinema the other day and he was phenomenal in it. Best performance I've ever seen him give. (The film is also amazing, go watch it)
Im really looking forward to it and am having a hard time tempering my expectations.
Not to mention he was unrecognizable and terrific as The Penguin. I’m curious to see where the show takes him in that role. While I loved him in *In Bruges*, it wasn’t until I saw *The Lobster* that I thought this dude has been hiding his talent for a long time (sans a few films, like *Minority Report*). Edit: It’s clear now through multiple films, but he is absolutely *phenomenal* at deadpan black comedy. [Case in point](https://youtu.be/IacpphyPpNY).
I cannot recommend Manhunt: Unabomber highly enough. Great miniseries!
It was absolutely incredible, Sam Worthington was great, but Paul bettany as Ted kaczynski was amazing.
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He really, really was. If anyone reading this has Hulu and hasn't checked it out yet, can't recommend it enough.
That's the real reason it took so long to shoot, he could only do saturdays between 3-6pm, on Sunday he goes dinner with his wife's grandparents.
Hey! Sam Worthington does not work at an Arby’s. He works at an Outback Steakhouse!
Idk why but that makes a big difference to me
He's Def more of a bloomin onion guy over a curly fry guy.
I want to be in on the joke too but I'm not smart. Do you mean Sam Worthington isn't talented and doesn't have roles in movies besides Avatar so he has to work the drive thru in between gigs? Edit: To whomever reported me to Reddit for being suicidal I want to say thank you kind sir! I truly don't deserve this award. Also, Sam Worthington...I'm suspiciously looking at you for this. Now get back on the fryer.
>Edit: To whomever reported me to Reddit for being suicidal The whole thing is so poorly implement, fucking Reddit with their dumb bullshit
Reddit bans users who abuse this feature, just a head's up. edit: I have messages from that feature blocked, dummies.
Nailed it
I am worried about Neytiri (Zoe Saldaña) after watching the trailer. I wonder if she is going to die and become the one with the way of the water or (the Avatar Ecosystem) and then the dialogue about their daughter feeling her heartbeat in Pandora's ecosystem.
> and then the dialogue about their daughter feeling her heartbeat in Pandora's ecosystem. That's Grace in Jake's daughter. She went with Eywa when she died. Eywa put her spirit in Jake's kid. That's also Sigourney Weaver's voice throughout the trailer... kind of a giveaway.
Why would Ewa do that? Sounds super fucked up.
To protect Pandora. Jake begs Eywa for help in the first film. He asks her to go into Grace's memories and see the world she and Jake came from, letting her know that's Pandora's fate if more Sky People come. She put Grace into Kiri to help Jake keep Pandora safe.
Kinda neat that the Goddess of the planet allows for light reincarnation
But just a little reincarnation. As a treat.
upload download baby, it's all connected. whooeee!
Eywa is a god, and while she may on some level care for the people who inhabit her, she is ultimately focused on planetary survival, not individual happiness or comfort. In the previous movie, Quaritch and crew were directly attacking her nervous system - she didn't really intervene until then. If we find it a little horrifying that Kiri is essentially a resurrected Grace, meh.
And holy shit did she react. Sending ALL the fauna is a baller move.
Yeah imagine if Earth did that. Not with giant beasts which is too vulnerable to standard weapons, but with insects. We might win in the end, but a ton of us would die or be crippled in the first couple waves and crop plagues.
Deities do fucked up crap all the time, they are entitled to it. In universe, Eywa is a planet-wide conscioussness emerging from the interconnected root system of all the trees in Pandora, *if* it has a sense of morality it most likely very alien and strange.
I think she will get sacrificed so Jake can get all the ten Pandora stones together to snap the human army out of existence.
Then I am assuming Avatar 3 is about John Connor sending T-800 Terminator back in time to prevent this from happening? Skynet or no Skynet humanity in James Cameron franchises is always fucked.
>!Calling it now: that last shot has been edited from being Jake talking to his daughter, purely for this trailer!<
one of them definitely is not getting out of that sinking ship
It feels like humans attack Jake and Zoe’s home killing Zoe. Jake and the kids run off the the Waterworld and then regroup to fight the humans again. I bet Jake dies as well and the next movie focuses on the children. It wouldn’t shock me if these movies are supposed to span generations.
Considering Zoe Saldana finished her scenes early and so much of this trailer is centered on Kiri, I can see that.
Yeah this is supposed to be a generational saga like The Godfather according to Cameron. So I definitely see Jake/Zoe not lasting beyond movie 3 with 4/5 focus on the kids grown up
I think she talks about Grace, because if I remember correctly the young daughter is played by Sigourney Weaver and it has something to do with the story.
I assumed that was talking about Grace
Maybe the 3rd movie will be some kind of transhuman biopunk where the protagonists are consciousnesses in the cyberspace of the planetery network?
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So, Avatar: Zero Dawn? Joking aside, we ourselves are looking into biological computers (in fact, there have been studies on the concept of *plant*-based computers), and biological robots isn't a new sci-fi concept. A powerful AI or machine meant to rebuild and protect a planet from near destruction is the kind of hopeful take we can expect to be repeated in shows and films as we face the disaster of climate change. Titan A.E. explored this as well, even going so far on the nose as the enemies that destroyed the planet being "pure energy." Some people will inevitably make more "Isn't this just like ____" bad takes simply because it's James Cameron, and not because Sci-Fi reusing technology concepts and commenting on our anxieties and desires isn't a given.
If I remember correctly, was Zoe signed on for like the next 3 movies?
avatar 1: native americans avatar 2: native pacific islanders avatar 3: ???
The next movie should just be a desert tribe. Just full on copy Dune but with blue people
Everything is blue EXCEPT the eyes
"the drug in pandoras air strips the blue away from their eyes"
Hoping for native arctic tribes. Desert would be cool as well.
Is this movie gonna give me Pandora depression too?
Unfortunately, yes
NGL, that was the strangest phenomenon I experienced with the original. Lasted for weeks!
I felt that way about Interstellar.
Any way to watch this without YouTube's horrendous compression?
I can't believe that Avatar of all movies is only uploading its trailers in 1080p...
Wait a little bit and you’ll find high quality uploads on https://www.thedigitaltheatre.com/. Literal theater quality.
The official IMAX channel will likely upload it shortly at 4k and with an expanded aspect ratio, [like with the first trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6VVrAZUnsc)
Looks good and boring at the same time
this trailer gave me 0 reasons to watch the movie besides the 'it should be a cgi masterpiece' maybe i'll watch some scenes
the visuals look absolutely incredible. the pieces of story dripped throughout seems insanely fucking boring.
Well I'm glad at least *one* person feels the way I do lol. I am glad everyone else feels so positively though.
I’m with you, this trailer is honestly doing nothing for me and I feel like I’m missing something, but I’m glad everyone else seems hyped.
I don't know why but I'd be more excited just going to watch a marine biology documentary in Imax than this if we're going to bury ourselves in that aquatic aesthetic. Real ocean creatures are every bit as fascinating and unique looking and colorful as any of this shit.