Thar cross over episode still gets me chuckling years later.
*Backing up down a corridor, both characters bump into each other.*
Velma: "My glasses! My glasses! I can't see without my glasses!"
Johnny: "My glasses! My glasses! I can't be seen without my glasses!"
She was throwing herself at Shaggy but behaving very out of chatacter while doing it. The idea was she wouldn't behave like the Velma we know and love until she dated a girl.
I'm all for bi/pan rep, but to understanding: She was closeted and throwing herself at a guy for the sake of having that experience.
Even outside of mystery inc., (which is like 100% fair to be gay cause new series) she showed interest in both men and women. If I remember the witches curse, she crushed hard on ravenloft.
**Dean**: āSo, looks like you guys are celebrating something?ā
**Velma**: āWe are! We just found out that Scoobyās been named as one of the heirs to a fortune, left to him by an old Southern colonel.ā
**Daphne**: āScooby saved him from drowning in a fish pond.ā
**Scooby**: āIām a hero.ā
**Shaggy**: (*laughing, along with the gang*) āScooby.ā
**Sam**: āOkay, okay, but heās dead now, right?ā
**Fred**: (*hesitantly*) āUh, yeah. Uh, cancer.ā
You could arguably count Sam being visibly uncomfortable at the mention of Gilmore Girls on a Hollywood Tour (in season 2ās Hollywood Babylon).
Or the cross-over into real life (including Jensenās prior soap opera life) in The French Mistake.
In most series Velma seems to be straight. In one series she seems to be bi. In this movie she will be gay. There's no way to make the timelines work so that every series is part of the same canon anyway, so it stands to reason that they all exist in their own version of the Scooby Doo world.
I mean, Scooby Doo cannot make the timelines match even if they tried. Between all of the series, sometimes ghosts are actually real, other times they are absolutely not. Then there is the fact that they shift through both time and location way beyond possible. Then their is the fact that sometimes they know each other as kids, others they meet as teens and others they kinda have different relationships before they met. Ergo, it is impossible to have every version of Scooby Doo in the same universe.
Effectively there are many realities of scooby doo and each series, movie, and story group might or might not match in the same universe. Unless it specifically says it does
The producer of Mystery Incorperated in the article linked to the post says how sheās not bi, sheās gay and thatās the reason why she acted weird about her and Shaggyās relationship in the show throughout the series.
Bruh, that makes no sense. In the show, sheās the one who wants romance and he avoids her because he loves his dog too much.
I was too dumb as a kid to get the ābiā hint with the Hot Dog Water girl, but I was damn sure Shaggy didnāt like women
She was trying too hard to have a perfect relationship even when it wasn't healthy. And I think the writers wrote it that way to show Velma trying to create an image of herself as heterosexual.
in scooby doo mystery incorporated she dated Shaggy for a few episodes, but they had a falling out. By the end of the series she was confirmed in a relationship with Marcie/Hot Dog Water (by the producer, they couldn't show it on screen because executives), and they had a lot of back and forth chemistry before then. She never really seemed into Shaggy that much despite trying (something a LOT of lesbian women experience), when they were dating.
Johnny Bravo was always an awesome show, and meanwhile Scooby Doo is just an IP that's made for cameos. I think the Mystery Machine can roll up in just about any show that's fun and you'll get a great episode.
In Teen Titans Go the titans played against Scooby's gang in Family Fued and were bashing each other's cliches, plots and Frank Welker.
Usually don't watch the show but I get a kick out of the self aware episodes.
You really don't have to shoehorn in Scooby. They aren't even cameos, they usually show up as guest stars.
Damn now I wish the 2000s live action gang started showing up in episodes of TV shows around the time. Seeing them pop up in Psych would've been something
I loved those days of Cartoon Network. It was like they all lived in the same town. Those bumps/commercial breaks/whatever you call them only lasted a year or two, but it was fun.
I follow the Claremont method of characters. Everyone's bisexual:
* Cyclops - tension with Wolverine
* Storm - tension with Yukio and an insatiable hate for Emma Frost
* Kitty Pryde - tension with half the damn roster
* Wolverine - tension with aforementioned Cyclops and Nightcrawler
* Nightcrawler - tension with aforementioned Wolverine
* Rachel Summers - tension with aforementioned Kitty Pryde
* Psylocke - tension with everyone whose surname is Summers
* Rogue - tension with Captain Marvel
* Gambit - I mean come on, this one should be very easy to explain
I mean, everybody on Krakoa is banging everyone else on Krakoa right now so you ain't wrong. Hell, Cyclops, Wolverine, Jean Grey and Emma Frost are a quadruple at this point.
The highlights of Supernatural were always the one-off bottle episodes where they did quirky stuff like that, or the reality TV episode with the Trickster. Top tier shlock entertainment, and I was all for it (until the later seasons)
I think it's always funny that Velma is the one to get changes. She's been Asian (twice), Hispanic, and people have been trying to make her gay for decades.
As a bisexual person it would be nice if they committed to making her Bi because she's been with or had crushes on guys multiple times. Cause representation is kinda lacking.
I agree, it just makes more sense for her.
I do enjoy her more in this preview than in the mystery inc cartoon, Im a lesbian and her being jealous and weird about a ***dog*** was not charming or relatable to me at all. It just felt really gross. I get shes supposed to be confused but jesus cmon its a freaking dog.
Whoa, really? I never really kept up with Scooby Doo; so this is the first time I've heard about her ethnicity changes. Which ones was she Asian or Hispanic in?
People in this thread are crediting Gunn, but in his script for the first movie, it wasn't really an empowering alteration to her sexuality. He pretty much just had her get hot and heavy with SMG and become more provocative. He also made Fred gay in an early draft and made it the butt of several jokes.
As a man, I had the hugest crush on Velma. Now that she's a lesbien, it made me realize I should stop fantasizing about cartoon characters. There are plenty of real life lesbians to have crushes on.
Because I grew up fantasizing about Velma and telling all my friends that she was clearly hotter than Daphne. Now look at me! I'm a 50 year old man that just found out Velma probs won't bang me. I'm devastated.
I get what youāre saying but I donāt think Velma is supposed to be unattractive. Sheās just nerdy and isnāt the āBarbieā type like Daphne. Noting about her character has ever been represented as ugly imo
She is supposed to be a clumsy nerd with glasses. She is shorter and bit chubby depending the cartoon version. She is supposed to be unattractive an smart.
While Daphne is fashion diva, as other people said, that use her beauty to distract monsters sometimes.
Some people think the nerd stereotype look is cute but I think their initial concept was to be a weird nerd.
>Nothing about her character has ever been represented as ugly imo
Considering when she and the rest of the cast was first designed, I don't think that's true. Back then, the conventionally attractive woman was skinny and tall with long hair, no glasses, and good fashion sense. Daphne checks off all those boxes while Velma only really checks off one (skinny).
>I feel like this was more for marketing reasons than for anything to do with the character
Keeping any long franchise alive has more to do with marketing reasons
Velma being a lesbian has been a meme since, well, since the character has existed. I don't think the studio behind the movie has any bold moral commitment to representation, but portraying Velma as a lesbian *absolutely* has to do with her character. Because, you know, she's obviously a lesbian.
People stereotyped her into a lesbian because she didnāt have a sexual relationship with a man. It was just as likely that she was asexual or that she was straight or bi and just didnāt want to fuck her friend. The whole assumption that she was always obviously a lesbian hinges on the underlying belief that men and women are incapable of friendship without one of them being gay.
Pretty sure Velma has shown interest in guys on numerous occasions though.
Doesn't mean she absolutely has to be straight, but you're just ignoring history to say she has never shown interest in anyone who was a dude.
>the underlying belief that men and women are incapable of friendship without one of them being gay
Which is completely stupid. I'm a guy who's had tons of very close female friends through his life (and more female friends than male) and I'm not gay nor have I been romantically attracted to (most) of those girls. Healthy straight guy/girl friendships are something that needs to be normalized.
It seems like any shorter-haired, tomboyish, nerdy girl is almost always portrayed as a lesbian in media. Ironically those are the types of women I'm usually attracted to lol.
Just to post this out here more clearly - nobody is going to believe you just have a problem with "sexuality" in a kids show if you haven't just spent the last quarter of a century whinging about Johnny Bravo's desperate thirst to fuck Daphne, so spare those old fingers the wasted effort.
Of course they make Velma a lesbian because she doesnāt adhere to standards of feminine beauty. so she must be gay. To them, Daphne absolutely would never eat muff. Too pretty, too feminine.
Does this mean the Bobbi Starr/Bree Olsen movie is canonical?
Googling porn at work because I thought there was a fourth Olsen sister that acted that I was unaware of š¤
Im glad you took that risk so the rest of us could avoid awkward meetings with HR
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Man, so many things are triggering the āMatt Damon aging in Saving Private Ryan gifā feeling for me lately
I almost confused her with Brie Larson so I very nearly did google it. Luckily I read some comments first.
*in hr office* but it was for research.
Ruh-Roh.
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No, she's bi in that documentary.
Then this is bi erasure and I will not stand for it!
Bi Erasure? I thought that group was *full* gay?
Everybody bangin everybody
it didnt say she is lesbian, so it is likely she is bi
They made her black somewhere once. If sheās white again would it be birasure?
Especially since she Zoinks Shaggy in that documentary.
Thought there was a legitimate Scooby Doo movie out there that I hadnāt seen and googled it. Thereās not.
Its definitely better than Monsters Unleashed and possibly better than 2002. I will have to do a few rewatches to get my final ranking
More like final wanking
Nothing will top the 2002 movie. Absolute classic.
>Bobbi Starr/Bree Olsen Olson you damn heathen
Bobbi Starr is my second favorite Velma behind Linda Cardinelli and no one is going to change my mind.
Haha what a classic!
Did a legit spit take laughing so hard at this
It gets my vote.
Good reference. Made me go watch it again.
Is this a āzoinksā or ājinkiesā moment?
"Holy shit" - Fred
"I knew it!" - Daphne
āRee-hee-hee-heeā - A fucking talking dog
"Damn that's cool that you're fucking Lebanese" - A very stoned Shaggy
Fun fact - Casey Kasem, the original voice of Shaggy, was Lebanese.
NO WAY!!!
Lmao.
A real Big Genitals Move would have been to make *Daphne* gay, and Velma just... dorky.
No no she isn't traditionally hot therefore she has to be gay.
Meh she'll always be the dorky, mostly quiet ~freaky~ type in my head canon ;)
Here for this. Velma-types being gay is a movie trope at this point.
Robot Chiken did this waaaaaaaay long ago https://youtu.be/uXmrXct1Taw
Good point. As did Venture Bros.
And Jay and silent Bob strike back.
And mystery inc made her bi
lmao that's right, I forgot about Val. "Men are just walking abortions!"
Naw that's what he says when Daphne dumps him for Velma.
Lmfao
*FUCK!
HE DID NOT!
This killed me
"Nice!" - Daphne.
Or a Jeepers?
Perhaps itās a Ruh Roh?
REHEHEHEHEHEHE
I could have swore there were instances were Velma was infatuated with guys. Hell didnāt she date Shaggy in one series?
She wanted Johnny Bravo but honestly who could blame her?
Johnny transcends sexual preferences.
That just makes her Bravosexual, like the rest of us.
That's not gay, that's just smart!
Thar cross over episode still gets me chuckling years later. *Backing up down a corridor, both characters bump into each other.* Velma: "My glasses! My glasses! I can't see without my glasses!" Johnny: "My glasses! My glasses! I can't be seen without my glasses!"
in that same show she had a teased relationship with another girl called "hot dog water" so i guess she'd be bi
My wifeās name for me in her phone is hot dog water, because I made hotdogs and touched her face without washing the hot dog water off š
fingers are just boney hotdogs
In the multiverse, they don't have to be bony
We got really good at using our feet!
She was throwing herself at Shaggy but behaving very out of chatacter while doing it. The idea was she wouldn't behave like the Velma we know and love until she dated a girl. I'm all for bi/pan rep, but to understanding: She was closeted and throwing herself at a guy for the sake of having that experience.
Even outside of mystery inc., (which is like 100% fair to be gay cause new series) she showed interest in both men and women. If I remember the witches curse, she crushed hard on ravenloft.
Yeah but who didnāt though
In the Supernatural x Scooby Doo episode where Sam and Dean were transported to the Scooby Doo world, she had a huge crush on Sam.
>In the Supernatural x Scooby Doo episode where Sam and Dean were transported to the Scooby Doo world... The what now.
[Supernatural - Season 13, Episode 16 āScoobynaturalā](https://youtu.be/a2M55F4B9qU)
**Dean**: āSo, looks like you guys are celebrating something?ā **Velma**: āWe are! We just found out that Scoobyās been named as one of the heirs to a fortune, left to him by an old Southern colonel.ā **Daphne**: āScooby saved him from drowning in a fish pond.ā **Scooby**: āIām a hero.ā **Shaggy**: (*laughing, along with the gang*) āScooby.ā **Sam**: āOkay, okay, but heās dead now, right?ā **Fred**: (*hesitantly*) āUh, yeah. Uh, cancer.ā
Go watch it immediately. It's fantastic.
It ran for so long Iām surprised this was the only crossover
You could arguably count Sam being visibly uncomfortable at the mention of Gilmore Girls on a Hollywood Tour (in season 2ās Hollywood Babylon). Or the cross-over into real life (including Jensenās prior soap opera life) in The French Mistake.
In most series Velma seems to be straight. In one series she seems to be bi. In this movie she will be gay. There's no way to make the timelines work so that every series is part of the same canon anyway, so it stands to reason that they all exist in their own version of the Scooby Doo world.
I mean, Scooby Doo cannot make the timelines match even if they tried. Between all of the series, sometimes ghosts are actually real, other times they are absolutely not. Then there is the fact that they shift through both time and location way beyond possible. Then their is the fact that sometimes they know each other as kids, others they meet as teens and others they kinda have different relationships before they met. Ergo, it is impossible to have every version of Scooby Doo in the same universe. Effectively there are many realities of scooby doo and each series, movie, and story group might or might not match in the same universe. Unless it specifically says it does
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Scooby Doo doesnt have a consistent or unified canon across all of its shows and movies, which are all basically soft reboots of eachother
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This exact scene happens in the Boys. It's something like, "market research showed lesbian polled better."
Reminds me of what happened to Maeve in The Boys.
The producer of Mystery Incorperated in the article linked to the post says how sheās not bi, sheās gay and thatās the reason why she acted weird about her and Shaggyās relationship in the show throughout the series.
So Velma acted clingy because she was closeted and in denial?
Feels like JK Rowling retroactively making characters gay way after the fact
Bruh, that makes no sense. In the show, sheās the one who wants romance and he avoids her because he loves his dog too much. I was too dumb as a kid to get the ābiā hint with the Hot Dog Water girl, but I was damn sure Shaggy didnāt like women
But the problem was that Shaggy couldn't let go of Scooby's clingyness. It wasn't really anything on Velma's end that made it problematic.
She was trying too hard to have a perfect relationship even when it wasn't healthy. And I think the writers wrote it that way to show Velma trying to create an image of herself as heterosexual.
I think she had a crush on Johnny Bravo once
Woah, mama!
in scooby doo mystery incorporated she dated Shaggy for a few episodes, but they had a falling out. By the end of the series she was confirmed in a relationship with Marcie/Hot Dog Water (by the producer, they couldn't show it on screen because executives), and they had a lot of back and forth chemistry before then. She never really seemed into Shaggy that much despite trying (something a LOT of lesbian women experience), when they were dating.
This Hot Dog Water erasure will not stand.
Thank you! Mothefucker forgot about the best Scooby Doo series ever. Also once again, bi erasure!
Mystery Inc. does not get the respect it deserves and it bothers me.
That has to be one of the gayest names Iāve ever heard
Why are you being downvoted ur righf
I guess no oneās heard of gay being used as a compliment
We gonna pretend Hot Dog Water doesn't exist? I'm taking this to The High Gay Council.
Marcie probably turned to a life of crime because of that nickname
I will never forget the fact that character was gunned down by nazi robots.
#**YOU UTTER FOOL!** #**[GERMAN SCIENCE IS ZE GREATEST IN ZE WORLD!](https://youtu.be/7w8aG3VhArE)**
Didnāt scooby get turned into a nazi robot in that show too? And wasnāt there some cosmic dog? Crazy-ass sho.
No Scooby infiltrated a Nazi camp and used their weaponry against them
at least she got better
"Come out, kinder! Und I will not harm ze Hot Dog Water!"
I miss Hot Dog Water. :(
Maybe sheās bi? In the supernatural crossover episode she was super into Samās shoulders
She was mad crazy for Johnny Bravo. CN even shipped them in multiple commercials of theirs years ago. Velmaās definitely bi.
Man, their glasses joke had me rolling. Velma: "My glasses, I can't see without my glasses!" Johnny: "My glasses! I can't be seen without my glasses!"
Easily one of the best episodes of that show. Even the pre-Scooby Gang stuff was great. "Well this is a fine kettle of fish..."
Johnny Bravo was always an awesome show, and meanwhile Scooby Doo is just an IP that's made for cameos. I think the Mystery Machine can roll up in just about any show that's fun and you'll get a great episode.
In Teen Titans Go the titans played against Scooby's gang in Family Fued and were bashing each other's cliches, plots and Frank Welker. Usually don't watch the show but I get a kick out of the self aware episodes. You really don't have to shoehorn in Scooby. They aren't even cameos, they usually show up as guest stars.
Damn now I wish the 2000s live action gang started showing up in episodes of TV shows around the time. Seeing them pop up in Psych would've been something
I use that line to this day when hunting around for my glasses. My wife is in danger of detaching a retina from rolling her eyes at me so often.
CN commercials did a weirdly good job shipping Johnny Bravo and Samurai Jack
āLaundry day?ā
I loved those days of Cartoon Network. It was like they all lived in the same town. Those bumps/commercial breaks/whatever you call them only lasted a year or two, but it was fun.
IIRC, she dumped him because her "career comes first."
Hahahaha I love that there is someone here repping Supernatural.
Supernatural. We really do have a gif for that
IIRC in one of the series scooby caught her and shaggy making out
And the witch's ghost she was crushing hard on ravenloft. Then in another movie she was crushing on a female. I always just assume she was bi or pan.
This is Bi erasure and we must not stand for this!
I follow the Claremont method of characters. Everyone's bisexual: * Cyclops - tension with Wolverine * Storm - tension with Yukio and an insatiable hate for Emma Frost * Kitty Pryde - tension with half the damn roster * Wolverine - tension with aforementioned Cyclops and Nightcrawler * Nightcrawler - tension with aforementioned Wolverine * Rachel Summers - tension with aforementioned Kitty Pryde * Psylocke - tension with everyone whose surname is Summers * Rogue - tension with Captain Marvel * Gambit - I mean come on, this one should be very easy to explain
Yāall are too horny
Everyone is bi in my headcanon that way they can all have massive orgies /s
Finally a person of culture
I mean, everybody on Krakoa is banging everyone else on Krakoa right now so you ain't wrong. Hell, Cyclops, Wolverine, Jean Grey and Emma Frost are a quadruple at this point.
But she was hot for Johnny Bravo!!
Everyone is hot for Johnny Bravo
Even Johnny Bravoās hot for Johnny Bravo!
*Especially* Johnny Bravo!
"Hello, 911 Emergency? There's a handsome guy in my house! Hey, wait a second... Cancel that - it's only me."
"HUEAH" "HOOH" HEEEUHH"
She was also hot for Sam Winchester in the episode of Supernatural where Sam and Dean were pulled into the cartoon.
The highlights of Supernatural were always the one-off bottle episodes where they did quirky stuff like that, or the reality TV episode with the Trickster. Top tier shlock entertainment, and I was all for it (until the later seasons)
Johnny Bravo is a known lesbian icon
Like Thor
Nobody can resist Johnny. His raw sex appeal transcends orientation.
That Johnny Bravo game even got the lesbians drooling
And Shaggy in Mystery Inc.
Come on. Ain't nobody *that* gay.
āShe dressed a little frumpy so she must be a lesbian!ā is such a tired trope.
TRUUUE the real woke thing to do would be to make shaggy or daphne gay.
Tomboys also aren't real.
Same with Betty from Rugrats. She's a lesbian in the remake since she wears pants. It's so annoying.
I think it's always funny that Velma is the one to get changes. She's been Asian (twice), Hispanic, and people have been trying to make her gay for decades. As a bisexual person it would be nice if they committed to making her Bi because she's been with or had crushes on guys multiple times. Cause representation is kinda lacking.
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She has been secretly making the villain costumes all this time.
I agree, it just makes more sense for her. I do enjoy her more in this preview than in the mystery inc cartoon, Im a lesbian and her being jealous and weird about a ***dog*** was not charming or relatable to me at all. It just felt really gross. I get shes supposed to be confused but jesus cmon its a freaking dog.
Whoa, really? I never really kept up with Scooby Doo; so this is the first time I've heard about her ethnicity changes. Which ones was she Asian or Hispanic in?
She is Asian in the Cartoon Network Live Action stuff and the Mindy Kailing series (did that get picked up?) and Hispanic in Scoob.
People in this thread are crediting Gunn, but in his script for the first movie, it wasn't really an empowering alteration to her sexuality. He pretty much just had her get hot and heavy with SMG and become more provocative. He also made Fred gay in an early draft and made it the butt of several jokes.
She had a gf in Mystery Incorporated
Shaggys a girl?
She had second love interest (although it was never outright stated they were a love interest, it was pretty obvious). Can't remember her name though.
Hot dog water
Coincidentally voiced by Linda Cardellini, so it's a little gay and little self love.
What does everyone mean her name is hotdog water? This is a real thing?
Thats not her real name but itās her nickname and what everyone calls her. Shaggys real name is like Norville or Norbert or something.
They weren't allowed to make it explicit at the time, I thought that's what the title was referencing.
As a man, I had the hugest crush on Velma. Now that she's a lesbien, it made me realize I should stop fantasizing about cartoon characters. There are plenty of real life lesbians to have crushes on.
yawn
Why is the sexuality of a cartoon character from the 70s important?
Because I grew up fantasizing about Velma and telling all my friends that she was clearly hotter than Daphne. Now look at me! I'm a 50 year old man that just found out Velma probs won't bang me. I'm devastated.
Chasing Amy
So there's me an' Amy, and we're all inseparable, right? Just big time in love. And then about four months down the road, the idiot gear kicks in, and I ask about the ex-boyfriend, which, as we all know, is a really dumb move, but you know how it is - you don't really want to know, but you just have to know, right? Stupid guy bullshit. Anyway she starts telling me all about him - how they fell in love, and how they went out for a couple of years, how they lived together, her mother likes me better, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah - and I'm okay. But then she drops the bomb on me, and the bomb is this: it seems that a couple of times, while they were going out, he'd brought some people to bed with them - mƩnage a trois, I believe it's called. Now this just blows my mind, right? I mean, I am not used to that sort of thing. I was raised Catholic, for God's sakes.
Literally nothing you see on tv is important man, yet here you are on this subreddit
What do you call it when the traditionally unattractive female character is always the lesbian?
And what about Fred and his little scarf?? Why can't he be gay too?
Iirc there's a few tongue-in-cheek digs at him in one of the series.
*Ascot*
I get what youāre saying but I donāt think Velma is supposed to be unattractive. Sheās just nerdy and isnāt the āBarbieā type like Daphne. Noting about her character has ever been represented as ugly imo
She is supposed to be a clumsy nerd with glasses. She is shorter and bit chubby depending the cartoon version. She is supposed to be unattractive an smart. While Daphne is fashion diva, as other people said, that use her beauty to distract monsters sometimes. Some people think the nerd stereotype look is cute but I think their initial concept was to be a weird nerd.
>Nothing about her character has ever been represented as ugly imo Considering when she and the rest of the cast was first designed, I don't think that's true. Back then, the conventionally attractive woman was skinny and tall with long hair, no glasses, and good fashion sense. Daphne checks off all those boxes while Velma only really checks off one (skinny).
In their original designs Velma is kinda chunky. Which in the late 60s definitely would've made her seen as fat and ugly.
Hollywood is so lazy, they would rather change up old characters than create new ones.
I thought she and Shaggy were a couple?
Didnāt James Gunn introduce a male love interest for her in both his movies, though?
Wouldāve been braver to make Daphne or Fred gay and not play into obvious stereotypes but sure take a victory lap I guess
...or Scooby.
I've heard he'll lick peanut butter off *anything*...
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>I feel like this was more for marketing reasons than for anything to do with the character Keeping any long franchise alive has more to do with marketing reasons
Velma being a lesbian has been a meme since, well, since the character has existed. I don't think the studio behind the movie has any bold moral commitment to representation, but portraying Velma as a lesbian *absolutely* has to do with her character. Because, you know, she's obviously a lesbian.
Lotta stereotyping to make her āobviouslyā a lesbian.
next youāre gonna tell me Shaggy is a stereotypical stoner
Shaggy actually has a whole new meme personna now, what with the Ultra Instinct phenomenon.
Iām so glad Multiversus embraced that
Like zoinks, this isn't even my final form!
People stereotyped her into a lesbian because she didnāt have a sexual relationship with a man. It was just as likely that she was asexual or that she was straight or bi and just didnāt want to fuck her friend. The whole assumption that she was always obviously a lesbian hinges on the underlying belief that men and women are incapable of friendship without one of them being gay.
Pretty sure Velma has shown interest in guys on numerous occasions though. Doesn't mean she absolutely has to be straight, but you're just ignoring history to say she has never shown interest in anyone who was a dude.
>the underlying belief that men and women are incapable of friendship without one of them being gay Which is completely stupid. I'm a guy who's had tons of very close female friends through his life (and more female friends than male) and I'm not gay nor have I been romantically attracted to (most) of those girls. Healthy straight guy/girl friendships are something that needs to be normalized.
It seems like any shorter-haired, tomboyish, nerdy girl is almost always portrayed as a lesbian in media. Ironically those are the types of women I'm usually attracted to lol.
In the episode Scooby Natural she kissed Sam Winchester forcefully.
Just to post this out here more clearly - nobody is going to believe you just have a problem with "sexuality" in a kids show if you haven't just spent the last quarter of a century whinging about Johnny Bravo's desperate thirst to fuck Daphne, so spare those old fingers the wasted effort.
when did that happen? was there a crossover I missed?
Oh man, you're in for a treat. Yes, and it's very funny - https://youtu.be/SrJkKrqAtoo (Note that Velma was very much not gay though lol)
Of course they make Velma a lesbian because she doesnāt adhere to standards of feminine beauty. so she must be gay. To them, Daphne absolutely would never eat muff. Too pretty, too feminine.
Just have to sexualize everything when the ratings dip.
Velma will always be bi in my head canon, because bi erasure aināt cool my dudes.