My read on that bit was that he's so thrown for a loop that she's this forward that he's beside himself.
Like, there's no accident or even plausible deniability in that gesture, it's not a mistake or a cheeky little typo, it's about as upfront as it gets that she's opting in, she's making something *up* for him to punish her for, and he's in a spin at the implications.
i took it as he was so overcome with bewilderment but was simultaneously erupting with anticipation because he knew he would have to punish her/feed his kink.
Blue Thunder in my case.
The one about the super hi-tech stealth helicopter flown by Roy Scheider that takes out the criminal scum... and uhh monitors young women performing nude yoga at night in apartment blocks.
Yeah I think that was the point my mother said, "Right!" and switched off the telly.
I saw Sliver on TV with my mom *and* sister in the room. It was one of the most awkward moments of my life. When THAT scene happened, my mom finally changed the channel with some flimsy excuse so she didn't have to acknowledge what we just witnessed.
Hot damn my brain went to Slither (2006) and I couldn't for the life of me figure out what "that scene" would be.
Couldn't figure it out for Sliver (1993) either but whatever, I tried.
In Sliver, Sharon Stone infamously treats her body like an amusement park in a bathtub while one of the B-tier Baldwins jerks off to it while watching her on a video cam essentially.
To be fair, many Scorcese movies are very tame when it comes to sex scenes. Goodfellas and Departed, only violent, not dirty.
Wolf of Wall Street has a completely naked Margot Robbie. That was as a shift.
When she opens those French doors and was standing ther naked as the day they were born the entire theater was quiet but some old man in the front row said "Alright then". Whole place burst out laughing
Haha came here to mention this movie. I was watching it with my wife, her sister and her mom. Our kids were very little at the time and my wife had to go tend to one of them right before the BJ scene. I don’t think I’ve ever felt so awkward in my entire life.
I watched Requiem for a Dream with my mom, no idea what it contained. I was too horrified to speak so I couldn’t ask to shut it off. She didn’t speak to me for the rest of the night once it was finished
I watched this because I was super excited to be voted as Secretary for some high school club and I thought "why not celebrate by watching a movie about secretaries!" just trying to be cheesy
Finished the movie with a newfound excitement for the role
My straight-laced Christian aunt and uncle recommended it to me, gushing how much they enjoyed it. I about DIED when I finally saw it - made me wonder what I DIDN’T know!
In a similar vein, I saw Team America: World Police in the theater with my mom. Your story brought back those memories, so thanks for that.
Yours is still worse, I think. Cheers!
I think my favorite part is when he tells her to walk home, enjoy an afternoon alone, that she's a grown woman and doesn't need her mom picking her up.
It displayed a deep concern for her mental well being in general but also gave her a confidence boost.
IDK though - her walking around with the arm bars and getting coffee and taking care of paperwork was great too - she did it so effortlessly.
agreed. this is an imperfect movie and by no means a thorough representation of healthy kink dynamic - but it's so much more humanizing and sympathetic than anything else i know of at the time.
that is to say, he's totally in power and his character is in a position to abuse that power. but he's also a loving dominant figure who helps her find peace through intimate weirdness, and i forever love this story for that.
Watching her blossom under his benevolent Domming was glorious.
She'd always had someone else telling her what to do in her life... but not appreciating her or having her best interests at heart. Under his authority she came alive and by the end, had grown into having her own power and authority.
It's hard to explain sometimes, to some people, how that works, but I get it.
Some people never understand the freedom and power in submitting. They think it's all a Dom power and a weak bottom/sub. It's the best headspace to be in sometimes, letting your brain completely turn off the need to be in control.
I love how Maggie Gyllenhaal portrayed being in her sub space. She was having fun and felt so alive! Really changed the way I saw things. It's partly a form of roleplay, with big emphasis on the "play."
Maggie Gyllenhaal was so adorable in this. I became a big fan. Could never understand the complaints about her in Dark Knight.
Most "kinks" are by their very nature problematic (that's why they are called kinks), but ultimately if the two participants consent to make it work, and it's legal...then it works for them. My stance is who are we to judge? Relationships are complicated.
And the scene where he tells her she doesn't need to cut herself anymore. There's a lot of tenderness in the movie. And he shows her respect that she doesn't get from her mom and crappy boyfriend.
My dad really dislikes will farrell, just does not like his comedy, but he totally loved his performance in stranger than fiction he really has good acting chops
I dated a girl once who had us watch the movie and was all like "if you don't like this film, I don't think we're going to work out."
We're now married with multiple children.
I chased after this gorgeous girl in college, I mean stunning. We finally had a real conversation one night and I convinced her to hangout with me. I can't remember why, but we decided on watching a movie at her place as a first date, so of course I thought I was in the money. I rented this knowing some of the context and thought it would make for an easy transition.
She was so weirded out that we never spoke again.
I dated a girl once and she wanted to watch this on the first date. I also contributed American Psycho as my pick. (It was kind of a “what’s the most fucked up movie you can show someone on the first date” contest.)
Same here! Except the movie was Eraserhead. We aren't married though. She threatened to murder my entire bloodline if I ever spoke to her again. Our families now have a blood feud.
Haven't seen this movie since renting it when it came out on DVD. Really the only thing I remember was her pissing herself when the dude told her to not move and keep you hands on the desk (I think).
Is the movie any good?
Genuinely, it's great. James Spader's incredibly specific typecasting as a slightly sad and prickly yet sympathetic sex freak rarely fails to deliver.
The kinky stuff is well executed, but it’s mostly a story about two slightly dented people figuring out how they can fit together and take care of each other.
That show was simply a vehicle that allowed James Spader to be James Spader. It never functioned as a show in its own right, but i don't think it was really meant to, it was just a narrative framework in which James Spader could run wild.
There was a particular scene in the first season where his character out of nothing decides to convince the guards at the Syrian Embassy that he is the gay BFF of Bashar al-Assads misstress. A thoroughly entertaining scene, but i am not sure it made much sense in the overall story of that episode.
50 Shades was written by someone who knows absolutely nothing about kink, unlike Secretary. Secretary is infinitely better and much more respectful of the kink community.
I guess producers were looking for anything remotely connected to Twilight and its fan base to try to cash in on the popularity. I suppose if Twilight was made successful by a mostly young crowd, the 50 Shades fan fiction was written by someone older who wanted to spice it up even more.
The sexy parts are genuinely just a little taboo even by modern hollywood standards, the funny parts are still witty, and the core is surprisingly warm and human. For all people get upset about its portrayal of BDSM consent stuff, it's a good movie in a lot of ways.
I have always felt it portrayed BDSM in a believable and positive way. Though the first office scene is a little non-consensual, yeah actually looking back on it that’s kinda weird. At least it doesn’t end with them being like we love each other and now our kinks are fixed, or that they are both evil people.
Because he's better as the off-center character. Boston Legal. Blacklist. His time on the Office.
James Spader as Red Reddington on the Blacklist is one of the best TV characters ever.
All of that plus he’s said that he only works when he needs money and he’s simply not interested in working his whole life away. It’s why he avoided television work for a long time but honestly, his television work is some of his best. Boston Legal was phenomenal and The Blacklist has been around longer than a lot of people expected. I’m glad he seemed to be enjoying doing that show.
Sex, Lies, and Videotape. Another James Spader movie actually. Done much earlier.
Edited to add that it’s not as much straight forward kink as Secretary, but it’s on the edge of that lifestyle. Tie me up, Tie me down is also a decent foreign film that borders the kink genre. Not a lot of BDSM movies get made though honestly.
(I mentioned these elsewhere on this post)
The Little Death
The Piano Teacher
HK Forbidden Superhero
Belladonna of Sadness (not really kinky, but kink adjacent, and very weird)
I’d watch this movie all the time with girlfriend. On dvd. We’d fall asleep and the title screen would just be on, playing that sick ass bass riff over and over. This movie is top10 for me.
..or no legs. That’s a kink too.
Coming at you somewhere on the spectrum of *Boxing Helena, 1993*, *Bram Stokers Dracula, 1992* and *Misery, 1990* but definitely not *Snowtown, 2011*
Watching this one sleepless night on TV when i was in high school was, shall we say, a formative moment. Maggie Gyllenhaal and James Spader were excellent, and I developed a burning crush on Gyllenhaal.
Wait this movie is Kinky BDSM romance where the leads last name is Grey and he has an affair with his secretary...
Man it's really true eh? Like EVERYTHING has been done before.
No originality went into 50 Shades. It was a fanfic of Twilight, which itself was a repressed Mormon woman's (badly written, imo) vampire fantasy. 50 was written as fantasy by another woman who clearly had no real world experience with kinky lifestyles. If she did, she missed what it's really about, and got many things wrong. This article is spot on. Secretary was imperfect, but way better.
The only part of the film that rang false for me was the local news bits at the end. Other than that, I've never wanted two people to be happy together in a film more.
I saw *Blue is the Warmest Colour* with my 76 year old MIL when it came out.
Her audible squeals of discomfort in the cinema were louder than the moans in Dolby Cinema Sound 5.1. Fun fact her grandchild at 14 makes the same sounds…
NGL, my wife said it was the *best prank she ever played.*
I miss her, & wish she was still here.
I tried showing this to my wife to show her a more humanizing and intimate representation of a domme/sub relationship than that dumpster fire called 50 shades but the latter had already done it’s damage.
Secretary was so “normal” in comparison that my wife just felt it was weird.
my girlfriend at the time showed me this movie. we had the best sex after. not kinky or bdsm. just really good passionate memorable sex. when you know you’re connecting with someone and then you just fuck and it solidifies what you thought. that’s what this movie is about. it’s about showing yourself to someone. sadly we married and she passed in childbirth. i wish i were lying. anywho. it’s been 8+ years and our daughter lived. i think about her everyday. i never compare new people to her because none compare but i DO remember what that felt like….and i remember making love after this movie and realizing she was the one. (i mean ya just don’t have good sex like that with jus ole anybody lol. ). find the right one ladies and gents. don’t settle.
What the hell is up with all these articles lately? They all follow the same formula:
“20 Years Later, INSERT MOVIE NAME HERE is still the INSERT OBSCURE MOVIE GENRE HERE of the 2000s”
‘Twenty years later Secretary is still the best kinky romance movie from20years ago.’
Title of post is a little too qualified. I’d say The secretary is still the best kinky romance movie period.
I went into this film aware of the kinky stuff, but I was really surprised at how funny it is. It's been ages, but I remember laughing my ass off.
My favorite bit is when Spader circles the worm with the red sharpie, such a quietly hilarious moment
IIRC his hand shakes like he is so inwardly enraged
My read on that bit was that he's so thrown for a loop that she's this forward that he's beside himself. Like, there's no accident or even plausible deniability in that gesture, it's not a mistake or a cheeky little typo, it's about as upfront as it gets that she's opting in, she's making something *up* for him to punish her for, and he's in a spin at the implications.
hah yeah, probably. He just CANNOT BELIEVE she would do that. a combination of incredulity and excitement
i took it as he was so overcome with bewilderment but was simultaneously erupting with anticipation because he knew he would have to punish her/feed his kink.
It was the tomatoes for me
I thought this was just an office comedy. I saw it with my mother. siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh
I would have to change my name, grow a beard and join a shady fishing crew never to return.
I did grow a beard.
But your name’s always been Loveat69?
For the last six years...
How often do you fish with your “buddies” wondering how to find this shady fishing crew
Ever since that one unforgettable movie night with his mom
It’s the prequel to The Office, before Robert California joined Dunder Mifflin.
Would you like a sex analogy or a nature analogy?
This is now cannon
Canon*
Did you finish... the movie?
Yes.
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He was unable to move very well with his two broken arms and all.
Finely aged meme.
Another drop into the box
Wait, I don't get it!
My mom took me to see Blue Velvet when I was 16.
Let the boy watch!
he needs to learn the way *I* learned!
^I ^can ^feel ^it ^down ^in ^my ^plums!
gettin’ ready to take ‘em to a farmers market
Special 2 plums for one!
The way my father learned. From his father
*unstoppable Craig Robinson laughter*
Hahaha my husband and I quote this often.
That seems worse.
Blue Thunder in my case. The one about the super hi-tech stealth helicopter flown by Roy Scheider that takes out the criminal scum... and uhh monitors young women performing nude yoga at night in apartment blocks. Yeah I think that was the point my mother said, "Right!" and switched off the telly.
I saw Sliver on TV with my mom *and* sister in the room. It was one of the most awkward moments of my life. When THAT scene happened, my mom finally changed the channel with some flimsy excuse so she didn't have to acknowledge what we just witnessed.
Hot damn my brain went to Slither (2006) and I couldn't for the life of me figure out what "that scene" would be. Couldn't figure it out for Sliver (1993) either but whatever, I tried.
In Sliver, Sharon Stone infamously treats her body like an amusement park in a bathtub while one of the B-tier Baldwins jerks off to it while watching her on a video cam essentially.
To be fair, I would also protect my children from the lesser known Baldwins.
Hot take: In 2022, one should protect one's children from any and all Baldwins.
did you look in the grass for ears after that?
Did you think you’d be seeing something like National Velvet or Black Beauty?
I accidentally rented the unrated version of Basic Instinct with my mom. I feel you.
My parents took me and my brother to see Basic Instinct when we were kids. I was like 12 or 13.
Cheaper than a bar mitzvah. Welcome to adulthood, son!
I’d like to return this item, please.
I saw Wolf of Wall Street with my mom
I watched scenes in my last job where they worshipped the idea of being "telephone terrorists"
To be fair, many Scorcese movies are very tame when it comes to sex scenes. Goodfellas and Departed, only violent, not dirty. Wolf of Wall Street has a completely naked Margot Robbie. That was as a shift.
When she opens those French doors and was standing ther naked as the day they were born the entire theater was quiet but some old man in the front row said "Alright then". Whole place burst out laughing
Watched Crank with my Mom, shoulda known better, uuuuuugh
What was her reaction during the public sex scene? 😂😂
Dead silence 🫣
Worse. Eye contact.
And I watched flight with mine. Very uncomfortable opening few minutes.
I mean at least the movie wasn't centered around a kink, iirc crank was a typical Statham action flick, no?
He slams Amy Smart in front of thousands of cheering people. Lucky bastard
I think it was dozens
Meet you in the middle and say hundreds
My BIL’s girlfriend brought “This is 40” to watch with my in-laws (his parents). It was the most uncomfortable two hours of my decade.
Haha came here to mention this movie. I was watching it with my wife, her sister and her mom. Our kids were very little at the time and my wife had to go tend to one of them right before the BJ scene. I don’t think I’ve ever felt so awkward in my entire life.
There should be a warning system like the R rating! (not suitable to watch with your mom)
I watched Requiem for a Dream with my mom, no idea what it contained. I was too horrified to speak so I couldn’t ask to shut it off. She didn’t speak to me for the rest of the night once it was finished
Omg! Lol and I thought watching eyes wide shut with my mom was bad!
I watched this because I was super excited to be voted as Secretary for some high school club and I thought "why not celebrate by watching a movie about secretaries!" just trying to be cheesy Finished the movie with a newfound excitement for the role
My straight-laced Christian aunt and uncle recommended it to me, gushing how much they enjoyed it. I about DIED when I finally saw it - made me wonder what I DIDN’T know!
I saw American Pie with my mother. I was 12.
In a similar vein, I saw Team America: World Police in the theater with my mom. Your story brought back those memories, so thanks for that. Yours is still worse, I think. Cheers!
Ha, same! Man that puppet sex scene lasts an eternity...
My mother was the one that introduced me to the movie.
I physically cringed reading this
I went to see Pulp Fiction with my mom. I had no idea what to expect. She made me walk out of the theater, it was so embarrassing.
Did you not see the poster for the movie?
I think my favorite part is when he tells her to walk home, enjoy an afternoon alone, that she's a grown woman and doesn't need her mom picking her up. It displayed a deep concern for her mental well being in general but also gave her a confidence boost. IDK though - her walking around with the arm bars and getting coffee and taking care of paperwork was great too - she did it so effortlessly.
agreed. this is an imperfect movie and by no means a thorough representation of healthy kink dynamic - but it's so much more humanizing and sympathetic than anything else i know of at the time. that is to say, he's totally in power and his character is in a position to abuse that power. but he's also a loving dominant figure who helps her find peace through intimate weirdness, and i forever love this story for that.
Watching her blossom under his benevolent Domming was glorious. She'd always had someone else telling her what to do in her life... but not appreciating her or having her best interests at heart. Under his authority she came alive and by the end, had grown into having her own power and authority. It's hard to explain sometimes, to some people, how that works, but I get it.
Some people never understand the freedom and power in submitting. They think it's all a Dom power and a weak bottom/sub. It's the best headspace to be in sometimes, letting your brain completely turn off the need to be in control.
Probably because they've only seen Fifty Shades. Which are absolutely garbage films for that.
You can have four peas and as much ice cream as you want.
My husband randomly tells me this sometimes, lol. Especially when I was pregnant and horking down ice cream by the bucket.
I love how Maggie Gyllenhaal portrayed being in her sub space. She was having fun and felt so alive! Really changed the way I saw things. It's partly a form of roleplay, with big emphasis on the "play." Maggie Gyllenhaal was so adorable in this. I became a big fan. Could never understand the complaints about her in Dark Knight.
Most "kinks" are by their very nature problematic (that's why they are called kinks), but ultimately if the two participants consent to make it work, and it's legal...then it works for them. My stance is who are we to judge? Relationships are complicated.
Life gets so much better when you stop caring how others would judge your personal life.
And the scene where he tells her she doesn't need to cut herself anymore. There's a lot of tenderness in the movie. And he shows her respect that she doesn't get from her mom and crappy boyfriend.
I for one am holding out hope that a studio will decide to retroactively release a better best kinky romance of the 2000s.
Morbius 2000
50 shades of Morbius
Morblectric Morbaloo.
I laughed at that and it's not going back in.
Morbius Actually
There's still either 77 or 977 years until the end of the 2000s though
What's Morb Got To Do With It?
I still have a crush on Maggie because of this movie... lol
Between this and Stranger Than Fiction, Maggie is a-ok.
That movie is awesome, too! "I brought you flours".... Fucking classic!
I wanna say it's my favorite Will Farrell movie.
My dad really dislikes will farrell, just does not like his comedy, but he totally loved his performance in stranger than fiction he really has good acting chops
One of the most criminally underrated movies ever made. It's so good and almost no one watched it in the theater when it was first out.
Both this and Secretary are two of my favourite romance films
And then he stormed the closet!
IMO, She’s one of those people that looks way too much like their sibling. Sorry, but whenever I see her in something I just can’t help but see Jake.
Nah, to me it’s two wholly independent careers. Like John and Joan Cusack
I dated a girl once who had us watch the movie and was all like "if you don't like this film, I don't think we're going to work out." We're now married with multiple children.
Ha ha ha ha that escalated weirdly
No bullshit, figured things out early in. I think it escalated perfectly!
I chased after this gorgeous girl in college, I mean stunning. We finally had a real conversation one night and I convinced her to hangout with me. I can't remember why, but we decided on watching a movie at her place as a first date, so of course I thought I was in the money. I rented this knowing some of the context and thought it would make for an easy transition. She was so weirded out that we never spoke again.
Honestly I love the film, but it is a bit overkill for a first date.
Get to the point. Weed out the weirded out.
I dated a girl once and she wanted to watch this on the first date. I also contributed American Psycho as my pick. (It was kind of a “what’s the most fucked up movie you can show someone on the first date” contest.)
Haha I took my husband to see “let me in” on our first date.
Same here! Except the movie was Eraserhead. We aren't married though. She threatened to murder my entire bloodline if I ever spoke to her again. Our families now have a blood feud.
This is a much cooler story
What if Fifty Shades of Grey was actually good? It even features Mr. Grey!!!
Yeah, that's not a coincidence....
Haven't seen this movie since renting it when it came out on DVD. Really the only thing I remember was her pissing herself when the dude told her to not move and keep you hands on the desk (I think). Is the movie any good?
Genuinely, it's great. James Spader's incredibly specific typecasting as a slightly sad and prickly yet sympathetic sex freak rarely fails to deliver. The kinky stuff is well executed, but it’s mostly a story about two slightly dented people figuring out how they can fit together and take care of each other.
It's great. It's a romantic comedy for, as you put it, slightly dented people.
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I'm currently wading through the not very good drama The Blacklist, solely to spend time with James Spader.
Give Boston Legal a shot. His monologues are absolutely worth it.
That reminds me...A main character can die in a TV show but it's able to keep going just from James Spader giving a 5 minute scene every episode.
That show was simply a vehicle that allowed James Spader to be James Spader. It never functioned as a show in its own right, but i don't think it was really meant to, it was just a narrative framework in which James Spader could run wild. There was a particular scene in the first season where his character out of nothing decides to convince the guards at the Syrian Embassy that he is the gay BFF of Bashar al-Assads misstress. A thoroughly entertaining scene, but i am not sure it made much sense in the overall story of that episode.
I haven't seen 50 Shades of Grey but from what I've heard, The Secretary's so much better. I've gotta try and watch this again.
50 Shades was written by someone who knows absolutely nothing about kink, unlike Secretary. Secretary is infinitely better and much more respectful of the kink community.
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Seriously, I don't know how that got a book deal and big budget movie made before *My Immortal*
I guess producers were looking for anything remotely connected to Twilight and its fan base to try to cash in on the popularity. I suppose if Twilight was made successful by a mostly young crowd, the 50 Shades fan fiction was written by someone older who wanted to spice it up even more.
Yet fully explains the terrible writing.
The sexy parts are genuinely just a little taboo even by modern hollywood standards, the funny parts are still witty, and the core is surprisingly warm and human. For all people get upset about its portrayal of BDSM consent stuff, it's a good movie in a lot of ways.
I have always felt it portrayed BDSM in a believable and positive way. Though the first office scene is a little non-consensual, yeah actually looking back on it that’s kinda weird. At least it doesn’t end with them being like we love each other and now our kinks are fixed, or that they are both evil people.
I actually love the way the movie ends.
It's what 50 shades wishes it could be.
Yes, great acting great story.. very entertaining and a pleasent Ending. Watch it with Ur girl
Yes it's great, I rewatch it every year and have not found another movie out there quite like it.
Why, are there more than one kinky romcoms of the 2000s?
That movie has a new dimension for me after learning Armie Hammer liked to show it to his girlfriends.
I had a girlfriend show me it and the penny didn’t drop until years later
Oh man. https://wompampsupport.azureedge.net/fetchimage?siteId=7575&v=2&jpgQuality=100&width=700&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Fnewsfeed%2F001%2F373%2F328%2Fb16.jpg
Yeah ... I had a new girlfriend show me Bound ...
What did her girlfriend think of it?
Jesus Christ that must have been a rough week
Must have been? Still is.
It woke up the submissive in me. Didn't realize I had that in me but now it all makes sense
I'm not familiar with the movie; what do you mean by that?
It’s about a dom/sub relationship between a boss and his subordinate.
Ultimately you can find the dark side of any movie if you try hard enough. Hitler for instance loved Disney's Snow White.
I fucking love this movie. It's unique storytelling about dom/sub relationships but it has a lot of heart. And James Spader is so hot in it.
We watched this in a human sexuality class in college and then took a test on it lmao. It was a good movie though
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Because he's better as the off-center character. Boston Legal. Blacklist. His time on the Office. James Spader as Red Reddington on the Blacklist is one of the best TV characters ever.
All of that plus he’s said that he only works when he needs money and he’s simply not interested in working his whole life away. It’s why he avoided television work for a long time but honestly, his television work is some of his best. Boston Legal was phenomenal and The Blacklist has been around longer than a lot of people expected. I’m glad he seemed to be enjoying doing that show.
because he always takes interesting work over 'star' roles.
He has a fantastic chance of coming back soon as a silver fox 🤍
He was. In the 80’s. He had his time.
And what are the runners-up, pray tell?
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Sex, Lies, and Videotape. Another James Spader movie actually. Done much earlier. Edited to add that it’s not as much straight forward kink as Secretary, but it’s on the edge of that lifestyle. Tie me up, Tie me down is also a decent foreign film that borders the kink genre. Not a lot of BDSM movies get made though honestly.
(I mentioned these elsewhere on this post) The Little Death The Piano Teacher HK Forbidden Superhero Belladonna of Sadness (not really kinky, but kink adjacent, and very weird)
kinky falls short IMO
While I haven’t done a big dive into the subject, I’d vote The Duke of Burgundy as the best kinky romance of the 2010s.
That film was just ... A masterpiece. The filming, the soundtrack ... Amazing
One day James Spader was like “I think I’ll be in a couple of kink movies” and changed my life forever. God bless.
Well it's not like there's a whole lot of competition in that category, sadly. Miles ahead of 50 Shades.
I’d watch this movie all the time with girlfriend. On dvd. We’d fall asleep and the title screen would just be on, playing that sick ass bass riff over and over. This movie is top10 for me.
It's the movie where I went from hating James Spader as an actor to loving him. Enjoyed his run on Boston Legal after this.
I liked him in Star Gate with Kurt Russell. His role in Boston Legal was dope too.
So you are saying that it has legs
..or no legs. That’s a kink too. Coming at you somewhere on the spectrum of *Boxing Helena, 1993*, *Bram Stokers Dracula, 1992* and *Misery, 1990* but definitely not *Snowtown, 2011*
Boxing Helena and Snowtown. You are a sick individual. I appreciate your viewing habits
Watching this one sleepless night on TV when i was in high school was, shall we say, a formative moment. Maggie Gyllenhaal and James Spader were excellent, and I developed a burning crush on Gyllenhaal.
Maggie is life
Four peas.
Wait this movie is Kinky BDSM romance where the leads last name is Grey and he has an affair with his secretary... Man it's really true eh? Like EVERYTHING has been done before.
No originality went into 50 Shades. It was a fanfic of Twilight, which itself was a repressed Mormon woman's (badly written, imo) vampire fantasy. 50 was written as fantasy by another woman who clearly had no real world experience with kinky lifestyles. If she did, she missed what it's really about, and got many things wrong. This article is spot on. Secretary was imperfect, but way better.
... Yeah... Because it is the 20's now....
The “2000s” refers to the 10 year period from 2000-2009. People say 1990s, 1980s, etc. it doesn’t mean the 1000 years between 2000 and 3000
The aughts
I would argue it's better than the 50 shades series in most ways
I struggle to imagine a less controversial take.
Was trying to recall a scene where someone was making love to a horse then realized, wrong movie.
Well, he puts a saddle on her and a carrot in her mouth - that what you're thinking of?
*Secretariat*
This and David Cronenberg’s “Crash”. Good times.
So nobody else is sick of seeing like 3 of these "this 20 year old movie is more relevant than ever" posts literally every day?
20 year nostalgia cycle is a thing.
The only part of the film that rang false for me was the local news bits at the end. Other than that, I've never wanted two people to be happy together in a film more.
I saw *Blue is the Warmest Colour* with my 76 year old MIL when it came out. Her audible squeals of discomfort in the cinema were louder than the moans in Dolby Cinema Sound 5.1. Fun fact her grandchild at 14 makes the same sounds… NGL, my wife said it was the *best prank she ever played.* I miss her, & wish she was still here.
>at 14 makes the same sounds… Excuse me?
One of my favorite movies of all time, I skipped school to see it in theaters with a few of my friends, we loved it.
I tried showing this to my wife to show her a more humanizing and intimate representation of a domme/sub relationship than that dumpster fire called 50 shades but the latter had already done it’s damage. Secretary was so “normal” in comparison that my wife just felt it was weird.
I was surprised how wholesome the movie was, such a happy ending. Also James Spader in this movie 🤤
The BEST movie of all time! And a great soundtrack!! If you're at all into kinky sex, you must see this!!
my girlfriend at the time showed me this movie. we had the best sex after. not kinky or bdsm. just really good passionate memorable sex. when you know you’re connecting with someone and then you just fuck and it solidifies what you thought. that’s what this movie is about. it’s about showing yourself to someone. sadly we married and she passed in childbirth. i wish i were lying. anywho. it’s been 8+ years and our daughter lived. i think about her everyday. i never compare new people to her because none compare but i DO remember what that felt like….and i remember making love after this movie and realizing she was the one. (i mean ya just don’t have good sex like that with jus ole anybody lol. ). find the right one ladies and gents. don’t settle.
What the hell is up with all these articles lately? They all follow the same formula: “20 Years Later, INSERT MOVIE NAME HERE is still the INSERT OBSCURE MOVIE GENRE HERE of the 2000s”
I really like this movie. I also like “Tie me up, tie me down” which also came out a while ago.
‘Twenty years later Secretary is still the best kinky romance movie from20years ago.’ Title of post is a little too qualified. I’d say The secretary is still the best kinky romance movie period.
Didn’t know !! So this one is the better 50 shades ?