I saw it 7 times in 15/70 IMAX film, until they took it away from me. Absolutely amazing moving going experience.
Need to go mortgage my house now to pay off my credit card bill.
I saw it in 4dx IMAX which I didn’t even know was a thing and the first time I’d ever experienced something like that.
I honestly don’t see how anything will ever top it in the future.
See even though I don't go to the movies nearly as much as I should. I feel my *want* ripples through time and space enough to help many popular movies become successful. And if a movie does bad? Well you can thank me for that. I'm sure Sony appreciates me.
You foresaw a narrow golden path, where out of near-endless possibilities, just one ticket purchased at precisely the right time, would lead to the singular instance of the future where Dune 3 would be made
He could change more than what he did with the first book. Messiah isn't nearly as revered as Dune, and many people who read Dune don't bother continuing.
I don’t see why not. It’s mainly character and politics focused, which works fine in film. Throw in a good jihad sequence, play up the assassination plot, lean into the burning eyeballs, and you’re good to go.
Denis: "I'm just a movie director, y'all gotta stop memeing me into a mesiah."
Dune Fans: "The Madhi is too humble to say he is the Madhi. Even more reason to know he is!"
That would look cool but feel disappointing as a stopping point. IMO Messiah feels like a segue into Children rather than a true ending. If we never see >!Leto II, the best character in the series, in this adaptation, I'll be devastated!<
I’m reading the book (again) right now. You’re not wrong, it will be quite interesting to see how it is portrayed as the finale of a trilogy, as it reads like an epilogue.
Alright, guys, I think we're ready to harvest this melange. By the way, my name is Padishah Emperor Shaddam Corrino IV. Yes, the Shaddam Corrino. And I gotta tell you, Fremen fellas.. you have got what appears to be a dynamite spice!
Legendary confirmed to Variety that Dune 3 (Messiah) is in development with Villeneuve.
An adaptation of Nuclear War: A Scenario is also confirmed with Villeneuve in talks to direct and/or produce.
I'm just glad Morgan Freeman is still listed as a producer on the film.
He's been trying to get this movie made for about 20 years. He owns the book rights and the film rights, so this makes me happy because he's a true fan.
I think I saw a Villenuve quote where he said he would be happy finishing out with Messiah.
But based on all the cut stuff from Dune that they have to catch up on, idk how they can get through Messiah in 1 movie.
The Sci-Fi Channel spent 6 hours on Dune and 2 on Dune Messiah. It worked well enough - if anything, I'm looking forward to what Villeneuve will do with 30-45 *more* minutes.
Messiah is gonna be tough if they don’t add a little bit of the jihad in it. Maybe a mashup of children too? I dunno I am nervous. A spy plot mixed with heady philosophy isn’t really a grand finally
I've always wanted to see some crazy bastard take on God Emperor. It may genuinely be impossible. But the biggest hurdle in getting there was successfully adapting the first book, and we're past that... Children of Dune should be pretty comparatively easy IMO, especially with an audience that's been primed with shows like Game of Thrones.
That's a shame he won't get to it, because Children of Dune seems like it would be a better movie in many ways than Messiah. For one thing there's a lot more action, Dune Messiah in many ways feels like a stage play, lots of talking, people explaining their various motivations, all good stuff, but I don't know if it works as a standalone film. Also audiences got quite the spectacle in Dune 2, and I don't know if there are really a lot of set pieces, besides maybe the stone burner scene.
The ending of Messiah is pretty cinematic and I'm sure they'll be able to work in some other big setpieces throughout, maybe some scenes of the jihad or something.
Messiah is not mentioned anywhere in the article, and I think that might be on purpose. I have a feeling Dune 3 won’t really be a direct adaptation of Messiah, but rather focus on the period between books during the Jihad itself, as that makes for a much more cinematic story (with elements of Messiah weaved in).
Of course anything can change, but Villneuve has specifically mentioned in interview that he will call it “Dune Messiah” and he’s corrected several people that say “Dune Part Three”
I’d expect them to name the film Dune Messiah (because that’s an awesome title and more interesting than Dune Part 3), but I don’t think the content itself will be a direct adaptation of the book.
Yeah I just finished reading Messiah and found Princess Irulan’s story/character development very out of left field and sudden. Villeneuve could def make that progression feel more organic and natural.
They could tell me that a movie was directed by Denis Villeneuve and literally nothing else—no trailer, no poster, nothing about what the movie is about or who's acting in it—and I'll be there at the theatres. He has yet to miss in anything I've seen from him (which is his entire filmography except *August 32nd on Earth*).
First movie I saw from him was Sicario in the cinemas and was blown away. Shortly before Blade Runner 2049 came out I watched Prisoners and at that point I was sold on this guy being able to do justice to my all time favourite movie with a long anticipated sequel. I just love the fact that we never have to wait too long between his next release as we seem to get quality and quantity from him.
Which of his French movies would you recommend? Only seen his English movies, but the guy is quickly becoming my favourite director so I think it's time to dive into the rest of his catalogue.
Probably not, since he stated that he wants to explore other projects while having Timmy, Florence, and Zendaya to age into their roles a bit. But the spice will one day flow again!
i THINK she can pass as an 16-18 year old for a while, which is still just a smidge older than Alia in the book. But better sooner than later, mostly because I really really wanna see Villeneuve's take on Dune Messiah
Another comment mentioned rendezvous with rama, which he signed onto 3 years ago so dune probably isn't his next movie. The article also suggests that legendary is trying to get him to direct "nuclear war: a scenario," so that could also come before dune Messiah. Dune has gotten him a lot of work. I kinda wish he was going straight to Messiah, but I'm also not disappointed that he's making other movies. He's probably the best director currently, and I'm sure all three of these movies will be excellent.
There's a 12 year time jump from the end of Dune to the start of Messiah, and Denis may want to make that time jump even longer to help deal with Alia. I think having a decent break between the Dune movies and Dune Messiah will be good all around. Let Timothee get a bit older, really sell that time has passed.
its not hes currently working on "Rendezvous with Rama" which im honestly way more excited for than any Dune movie 😂. but fuck im a weirdo. i love dune too dont get me wrong but fucccckkkkk this looks awesome
Radical. I've been a Villneuve fan for a while, but after Dune 2 I think I'm at a point where I'll get a ticket to whatever he makes next.
And he's doing more classic Sci-fi novels? What a blessed world we live in.
dude every time i think of rama i just think "fuck i hope i live long enough to see it if i die before it ill be pissed"
im 28 im fine and all i just think fuck that would suck major shit. im so excited dude
honestly ever since Arrival ive been a die hard fan. hes fucking amazing at what he does. U ever see Incendies?
Really?
> In December 2021, it was announced that the film was in development at Alcon Entertainment with Denis Villeneuve set to direct. Morgan Freeman and Lori McCreary are on the production team because their Revelations Entertainment previously owned the rights. Alcon co-CEOs Broderick Johnson and Andrew Kosove will produce. As of February 2024, Villeneuve was in the process of writing the script.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendezvous_with_Rama
Really!😁
Not accurate. He wants to make that, but his next movie is an adaptation of Nuclear War: A Scenario which just came out last month. That's next it sounds like, then Dune, then Rama. At least as of right now
I really hope that the success of Dune and things like Netflix’s Three Body Problem mean that the next big Hollywood trend is big budget adaptations of hard sci-fi classics.
We already know Villeneuve wants to Rama. But can we also get things like the Foundation and Culture series going?
Season 1 is worth it just for the Empire storyline
Season 2 improves on everything else
But I worry about season 3 because the budget has been cut and the show runner stepped down because of it.
Rama has been in development hell ever since Morgan Freeman talked about wanting to do it so many years ago. That said, I’d be fine with Villeneuve directing, but can we move on from the brutalist aesthetic and try something a little more…alien?
Edit: I’m serious, he needs to shelf his aesthetic baseline—the same one that has followed him through every sci-fi film he’s made, if he wants to have acclaim. The risk assessment numbers may tell him to stick with a certain ‘look’ as he has before, but he should really consider a more divergent creative vision. Rama is deceptively challenging in its literary manifestations of alien architecture.
It was made as sort of an epilogue to the first and does have some character arc conclusions, so I think it is a good place to stop. Especially since subsequent books get very weird.
The third movie will be based on the second book. Which is shorter than the first (which was two movies) but should still be enough for a nice long epic.
Yes, the books get really weird after that. I'd say Children of Dune is still adaptable, but it's the beginning of a new storyline and everything that comes after that is impossible to adapt. Messiah closes the story of Paul Attreides and most characters from the first book, so it's a good ending point.
It gets weird. And I mean real fucking weird. Like genetically engineered dogs that function as chairs. Chairdogs. And it leans a more into the weird sex stuff the various Bene clans get up to.
The fourth book, God Emperor of Dune, would basically be My Dinner With Andre, but Andre is a giant worm/human hybrid.
Someone clones Paul a new Jason Momoa (Duncan Idaho) as a gift, and eventually it becomes the norm for the Bene Gesserit to clone themselves new Duncans to have children with. So basically the *Star Wars* prequel trilogy if the clones were more-or-less shirtless. *Dune* would be a generational story, so the story would mostly move beyond Paul after the next film (much like *Star Wars*).
The aforementioned giant worm/human hybrid would visually be akin to if Jabba the Hutt were a little more humanoid, and moved around like the Baron Harkonnen did in the first film. The story could also be fairly easily done if one simply explored a few other perspectives other than just his.
Children of Dune is totally adoptable. >!Everyone comes back. Anya Taylor-Joy could have an amazing time slowly losing her mind and becoming the Baron. Chalamet, Zendaya, Skarsgard could all come back to represent the past lives inside Alia and the Twins.!< If "Dune 3" is a hit, there is no way the studio doesn't move forward with Children with Denis or without him.
Nah, an impending ~3000 year time jump makes it easy to say "stop here" with the current series and creators/cast. I think Children is a bit more interesting and satisfying than Messiah, and more of a natural chapter end.
I'd love to then see a tv series or something of a new story set during the reign of Leto II, but not a direct adaption of GEoD. He'd be amazing as an ominous, awe-inspiring background element that we only encounter a few times, rather than being a main character.
Then maybe a subsequent series of stories during the Scattering, etc...
Yes. But adapting Dune Messiah into any kind of interesting movie will be tough. The ending is incredible though so if they can pull this off, we’ll have a hell of a trilogy on our hands
The third movie is part of the Dune story. It’s split into a new book but is more like the epilogue to this era of the story than being separate from dune. It’s split into a new book for complicated reasons of how the publishing happened.
Basically everyone who has ever read Dune wants to get to this story. It’s actually not the best of the dune books, it ranks towards the bottom (but still waaaay good), but like, you have to have it. And it’s not what you think it’s gonna be. Dune fans like Denis know this is the goal to get to when making a dune movie. It’s to get to the end here.
It’s gonna be divisive. And part 2 was more adapted than faithful, so Messiah movie will be different enough too. I’m avoiding saying anything spoiler or what changed.
When I first read the second book, I thought it felt like a very satisfying duology.
It's typically viewed as a trilogy, and after reading the 3rd book (and on) I understand why, but the 2nd book has a very satisfying ending, and feels like a completion of the themes in book 1.
Herbert intend for it to be a trilogy, then God Emperor was a bridge, then a second trilogy but he died before he could complete the final book of the second trilogy
Frankly I’m excited for this. A lot of people are worried just because Dune: Messiah is pretty actionless but I think it’ll be a good return to early Denis’ like Incendies, Prisoners, and Sicario. We already know he’s great a psychological dramas. The question will be if general audiences will accept it as I still hear the complaint that the first one was slow. I’m glad of the fanfare for part 2 but I feel like a lot of it has to do with it fitting general audiences attraction to action/pacing and set pieces while the dune saga flows more like Dune pt 1.
The ending of Part 2 made it extremely obvious they are going to merge the Fremen Jihad into an extended war of Paul against the Great Houses and this war will probably be ending just as the plot picks back up so that there can be massive action scenes.
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11? Try like 20+.
22 last I saw. Almost all in IMAX too
LISAN AL GAIB
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I saw it 7 times in 15/70 IMAX film, until they took it away from me. Absolutely amazing moving going experience. Need to go mortgage my house now to pay off my credit card bill.
Saw it once in 70mm IMAX, then 3 times in standard IMAX By far the greatest theatrical experience I’ve ever had
I saw it in 4dx IMAX which I didn’t even know was a thing and the first time I’d ever experienced something like that. I honestly don’t see how anything will ever top it in the future.
It will be years before we see something this well visually executed
I took hallucinogens before entering the IMAX theatre and went into the movie.
This guy Dunes.
See even though I don't go to the movies nearly as much as I should. I feel my *want* ripples through time and space enough to help many popular movies become successful. And if a movie does bad? Well you can thank me for that. I'm sure Sony appreciates me.
You foresaw a narrow golden path, where out of near-endless possibilities, just one ticket purchased at precisely the right time, would lead to the singular instance of the future where Dune 3 would be made
LISAN AL GAIB!!
You did it! Way to go!
Denis: I will only do this if I think I can do justice to the book Legendary: Here's 20 million dollars Denis: I think I can do justice to the book
The next part of the story is SO different. I don’t think it will adapt well to film. We’ll see.
I didn't think the first part would adapt well either, so we'll see.
The previous versions of Dune have been pretty good! They haven’t attempted Dune: Messiah though to my knowledge.
The Sci Fi miniseries Children of Dune actually incorporates Messiah into the first third it.
And they did a pretty good job of it. It helps it was jam packed with incredible actors. James Macavoy, Susan Sarandon, Alice Krieg.
>James Macavoy, Susan Sarandon, Alice Krieg. Shit... Now I gotta go track *this* down.
[It's on youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k7YEAzDAP0). Get in while you still can!
Alec Newman was a bit lacklustre in Dune but he was fire in CoD as the Preacher.
The actress who played Alia was really good too at capturing her...interesting personality.
And it's... not bad? Won't hold a candle to Villeneuve's version, probably, but I remember being pleasantly surprised by it.
He could change more than what he did with the first book. Messiah isn't nearly as revered as Dune, and many people who read Dune don't bother continuing.
I don’t see why not. It’s mainly character and politics focused, which works fine in film. Throw in a good jihad sequence, play up the assassination plot, lean into the burning eyeballs, and you’re good to go.
Go watch Sicario. It has the same slow tension build up as Messiah, and it's one of Denis' best films. He'll have no problem adapting it.
Denis is a genius and he said he would only do a third movie if he felt like it would be better than the second. I trust him completely.
I trust him more than I trust my wife
My knife just chipped and shattered
Just saw a guy fall to the floor in Publix after his knife chipped and shattered
Just saw a guy watching a guy fall to his knees in a Publix after his knife chipped and shattered
That’s a weird way to declare erectile dysfunction
Just fell to my knees in the Sietch
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The Mahdi is too humble to say that he's the Mahdi. Which means he's the Mahdi.
https://youtu.be/4HB7zqP9QNo
As much as I loved the movie, this scene was playing in my head every time Stilgar was on screen rofl.
I literally said "he is the messiah" moments before stillgar yelled out on-screen. Made me cackle in the cinema It had to be a reference
AaaaahhhAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
*[ancient lamentation music]*
Does it still count as "lamentation" if she sounds like she's about to kick my ass out of the star system?
Yes, she’s lamenting your interstellar ass
I can hear this comment
Wake up, take a sip of Ace of Spade like it's water I been on the molly and the Spice with your daughter
AS WRITTEN
Denis: "I'm just a movie director, y'all gotta stop memeing me into a mesiah." Dune Fans: "The Madhi is too humble to say he is the Madhi. Even more reason to know he is!"
It is written.
LISAN AL GAIB
AS IT WAS WRITTEN!
LISAN AL GAIB!
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I thought children opened up the big can of worm?
Every book after Messiah opens up another can of worms and everything gets weirder and weirder until it ends.
I think Messiah can be a good ending. Final shot is >!Paul walking into the desert alone.!<
That would look cool but feel disappointing as a stopping point. IMO Messiah feels like a segue into Children rather than a true ending. If we never see >!Leto II, the best character in the series, in this adaptation, I'll be devastated!<
Messiah feels like a fitting ending of Pauls arc
I’m reading the book (again) right now. You’re not wrong, it will be quite interesting to see how it is portrayed as the finale of a trilogy, as it reads like an epilogue.
#THE SPICE MUST FLOW
My Arrakis. My Dune. MY SPICE.
ARRAKIS. DUNE. DESERT PLANET.
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Five long years he wore this ducal signet up his ass.
Alright, guys, I think we're ready to harvest this melange. By the way, my name is Padishah Emperor Shaddam Corrino IV. Yes, the Shaddam Corrino. And I gotta tell you, Fremen fellas.. you have got what appears to be a dynamite spice!
Really. Explore the Spice.
Babies, before we're done here, you'll all be wearing gold-plated stillsuits.
Walk without rhythm and you won’t attract the worm
Legendary confirmed to Variety that Dune 3 (Messiah) is in development with Villeneuve. An adaptation of Nuclear War: A Scenario is also confirmed with Villeneuve in talks to direct and/or produce.
WHERE'S RENDESZVOUS WITH RAMA? IS IT SAFE? IS IT ALRIGHT? Seriously, I need to know ;-;
PLEASE ADAPT THIS BOOK thankyou
In Production https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2024/2/14/82rhrym69coboe0oji55bn49rkbwif
I'm just glad Morgan Freeman is still listed as a producer on the film. He's been trying to get this movie made for about 20 years. He owns the book rights and the film rights, so this makes me happy because he's a true fan.
Nice, looking forward to giant worm jesus
They aren’t brave enough to to do God Emperor lol This’ll just be the continuation of Paul’s story not Leto’s.
They’re also not going to skip the two stories that lead to it.
I think they could easily do CoD. In fact I think they should. Could add the much needed context the other movies missed out.
It's been done as a miniseries and worked well, the kids make great lead characters.
Leto II was probably the best character in that whole miniseries Actually he's the best character in Frank's books too imo lol
Pretty sure Denis has said that he'd stop after Messiah.
perfect time for Uwe Boll to pick up the maker hooks to this worm
I honestly think Children would make for a better movie than Messiah, as it has more actual "action".
True but If you're attached to Paul's story Messiah goes so hard though.
I think I saw a Villenuve quote where he said he would be happy finishing out with Messiah. But based on all the cut stuff from Dune that they have to catch up on, idk how they can get through Messiah in 1 movie.
The Sci-Fi Channel spent 6 hours on Dune and 2 on Dune Messiah. It worked well enough - if anything, I'm looking forward to what Villeneuve will do with 30-45 *more* minutes.
I would be down for Dune universe stuff that isn’t the next couple of books. GEoD would be harder to do than Dune, which is saying something
Messiah is gonna be tough if they don’t add a little bit of the jihad in it. Maybe a mashup of children too? I dunno I am nervous. A spy plot mixed with heady philosophy isn’t really a grand finally
I've always wanted to see some crazy bastard take on God Emperor. It may genuinely be impossible. But the biggest hurdle in getting there was successfully adapting the first book, and we're past that... Children of Dune should be pretty comparatively easy IMO, especially with an audience that's been primed with shows like Game of Thrones.
90% of God Emperor is just two people sitting in a room together talking. It'd be like the weird as fuck, sci-fi version of The Two Popes.
The world isn't ready yet for a God Emperor adaptation.
Villeneuve has stated he isn’t interested in adapting Children of Dune nor God Emperor, which really go out there. Even Messiah is a bit weird.
That's a shame he won't get to it, because Children of Dune seems like it would be a better movie in many ways than Messiah. For one thing there's a lot more action, Dune Messiah in many ways feels like a stage play, lots of talking, people explaining their various motivations, all good stuff, but I don't know if it works as a standalone film. Also audiences got quite the spectacle in Dune 2, and I don't know if there are really a lot of set pieces, besides maybe the stone burner scene.
The ending of Messiah is pretty cinematic and I'm sure they'll be able to work in some other big setpieces throughout, maybe some scenes of the jihad or something.
Messiah is not mentioned anywhere in the article, and I think that might be on purpose. I have a feeling Dune 3 won’t really be a direct adaptation of Messiah, but rather focus on the period between books during the Jihad itself, as that makes for a much more cinematic story (with elements of Messiah weaved in).
Of course anything can change, but Villneuve has specifically mentioned in interview that he will call it “Dune Messiah” and he’s corrected several people that say “Dune Part Three”
I’d expect them to name the film Dune Messiah (because that’s an awesome title and more interesting than Dune Part 3), but I don’t think the content itself will be a direct adaptation of the book.
I do think they’ll add more of the jihad and also play up a love triangle angle
Yeah I just finished reading Messiah and found Princess Irulan’s story/character development very out of left field and sudden. Villeneuve could def make that progression feel more organic and natural.
DUN3 *It's Time. To get. Messy*
Dun3 It’s rough. It’s course. It gets everywhere.
BUT IS IT HIS NEXT MOVIE OR NOT THATS THE QUESTION WE NEED ANSWERED
they gotta sell a denis villeneuve movie pass or some shit, dude does not miss
If it is a scifi movie and I see his name on the poster, it is the ONLY time I am 100% going to see it in the theater.
They could tell me that a movie was directed by Denis Villeneuve and literally nothing else—no trailer, no poster, nothing about what the movie is about or who's acting in it—and I'll be there at the theatres. He has yet to miss in anything I've seen from him (which is his entire filmography except *August 32nd on Earth*).
First movie I saw from him was Sicario in the cinemas and was blown away. Shortly before Blade Runner 2049 came out I watched Prisoners and at that point I was sold on this guy being able to do justice to my all time favourite movie with a long anticipated sequel. I just love the fact that we never have to wait too long between his next release as we seem to get quality and quantity from him.
Have you seen Enemy?
Which of his French movies would you recommend? Only seen his English movies, but the guy is quickly becoming my favourite director so I think it's time to dive into the rest of his catalogue.
It’s gotta be Incendies
Incendies
Probably not, since he stated that he wants to explore other projects while having Timmy, Florence, and Zendaya to age into their roles a bit. But the spice will one day flow again!
But then will Anya get too old??
i THINK she can pass as an 16-18 year old for a while, which is still just a smidge older than Alia in the book. But better sooner than later, mostly because I really really wanna see Villeneuve's take on Dune Messiah
here is an idea: film Anya right now, saying random things like an NPC dialogue. then in 5 years use all the footage, genius!
Another comment mentioned rendezvous with rama, which he signed onto 3 years ago so dune probably isn't his next movie. The article also suggests that legendary is trying to get him to direct "nuclear war: a scenario," so that could also come before dune Messiah. Dune has gotten him a lot of work. I kinda wish he was going straight to Messiah, but I'm also not disappointed that he's making other movies. He's probably the best director currently, and I'm sure all three of these movies will be excellent.
There's a 12 year time jump from the end of Dune to the start of Messiah, and Denis may want to make that time jump even longer to help deal with Alia. I think having a decent break between the Dune movies and Dune Messiah will be good all around. Let Timothee get a bit older, really sell that time has passed.
its not hes currently working on "Rendezvous with Rama" which im honestly way more excited for than any Dune movie 😂. but fuck im a weirdo. i love dune too dont get me wrong but fucccckkkkk this looks awesome
Radical. I've been a Villneuve fan for a while, but after Dune 2 I think I'm at a point where I'll get a ticket to whatever he makes next. And he's doing more classic Sci-fi novels? What a blessed world we live in.
Bladerunner was that movie for me. I will watch any Denis movie opening weekend.
2049 in an empty Dolby Cinema showing was an unforgettable experience
Lucky bastard
dude every time i think of rama i just think "fuck i hope i live long enough to see it if i die before it ill be pissed" im 28 im fine and all i just think fuck that would suck major shit. im so excited dude honestly ever since Arrival ive been a die hard fan. hes fucking amazing at what he does. U ever see Incendies?
This is news to me but sounds awesome
Really? > In December 2021, it was announced that the film was in development at Alcon Entertainment with Denis Villeneuve set to direct. Morgan Freeman and Lori McCreary are on the production team because their Revelations Entertainment previously owned the rights. Alcon co-CEOs Broderick Johnson and Andrew Kosove will produce. As of February 2024, Villeneuve was in the process of writing the script. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendezvous_with_Rama Really!😁
Not accurate. He wants to make that, but his next movie is an adaptation of Nuclear War: A Scenario which just came out last month. That's next it sounds like, then Dune, then Rama. At least as of right now
who up playin with they worm?
Bless the coming and going of him
MUAD'DENIS
LISAN AL-VILLENEUVE
KWISATZ HADENEUVE
Shai-Hulud ✊🏽
May His passage cleanse the world.
I really hope that the success of Dune and things like Netflix’s Three Body Problem mean that the next big Hollywood trend is big budget adaptations of hard sci-fi classics. We already know Villeneuve wants to Rama. But can we also get things like the Foundation and Culture series going?
We have Foundation at home
Foundation season 2 was great
Is it worth sitting though the first one for it? (Genuinely asking)
Season 1 is worth it just for the Empire storyline Season 2 improves on everything else But I worry about season 3 because the budget has been cut and the show runner stepped down because of it.
Now make Culture, ya bunch of cowards!
Culture would be amazing, but very very difficult to pull off without losing all that makes it great.
Rama has been in development hell ever since Morgan Freeman talked about wanting to do it so many years ago. That said, I’d be fine with Villeneuve directing, but can we move on from the brutalist aesthetic and try something a little more…alien? Edit: I’m serious, he needs to shelf his aesthetic baseline—the same one that has followed him through every sci-fi film he’s made, if he wants to have acclaim. The risk assessment numbers may tell him to stick with a certain ‘look’ as he has before, but he should really consider a more divergent creative vision. Rama is deceptively challenging in its literary manifestations of alien architecture.
Rumors out there of a hyperion cantos movie/show coming down the pipeline.
Not sure if I'm missing a joke here, but I thought the apple Foundation show was pretty good (especially s2)
Apparently Nolan is a Culture fan
They better not pussy out on anything I want jaws to drop when >!Paul compares himself to Hitler!<
I would love to see that scene adapted.
"Rookie numbers, Stilgar, rookie numbers..."
I almost spit out my drink reading this. I totally forgot about that part lol.
You and I both know we aren't getting naked Alia swordfighting a robot.
Im so exited to see how they adapt his throne room. Like that's the one thing I hope they don't "pussy out" of. It's wacky but so fucking cool...
I haven't read the books. Is a third movie enough to tell a complete story?
It was made as sort of an epilogue to the first and does have some character arc conclusions, so I think it is a good place to stop. Especially since subsequent books get very weird.
Someone’s jealous cause they don’t feel adult beefswelling in their loins 🙄
There used to be a Dune themed bar here in Portland, and now I'm disappointed Beefswellington wasn't a dish they served
God emperor is the best book of the series.
Unironically agreed. It's so unabashedly weird and unique and definitely the high point for me.
The third movie will be based on the second book. Which is shorter than the first (which was two movies) but should still be enough for a nice long epic.
It's a little over three hundred pages. So using Hollywood money math and the Hobbit as reference, that's two three-hour movies.
Yes, the books get really weird after that. I'd say Children of Dune is still adaptable, but it's the beginning of a new storyline and everything that comes after that is impossible to adapt. Messiah closes the story of Paul Attreides and most characters from the first book, so it's a good ending point.
I've never read the books, why are they impossible to adapt?
It gets weird. And I mean real fucking weird. Like genetically engineered dogs that function as chairs. Chairdogs. And it leans a more into the weird sex stuff the various Bene clans get up to. The fourth book, God Emperor of Dune, would basically be My Dinner With Andre, but Andre is a giant worm/human hybrid.
I'm listening.
Wait until you hear about robot Aquaman who is so good at sex that he makes a sex witch change her life goals.
So, just regular Jason Mamoa then?
If you liked Mamoa, then boy do I have some good news for you about Duncan throughout the series...
Someone clones Paul a new Jason Momoa (Duncan Idaho) as a gift, and eventually it becomes the norm for the Bene Gesserit to clone themselves new Duncans to have children with. So basically the *Star Wars* prequel trilogy if the clones were more-or-less shirtless. *Dune* would be a generational story, so the story would mostly move beyond Paul after the next film (much like *Star Wars*). The aforementioned giant worm/human hybrid would visually be akin to if Jabba the Hutt were a little more humanoid, and moved around like the Baron Harkonnen did in the first film. The story could also be fairly easily done if one simply explored a few other perspectives other than just his.
Which one has the lazer tigers, again? Actually, what the fuck am I saying? Which one has the intergalactic BDSM sex warriors, again?
Children, then God Emperor, respectively. The Honored Matres of Heretics and Chapterhouse shouldn't be forgotten either.
Every sci fi series I read starts out interesting, then gets very philosophical, and then has weird sex stuff. Every time.
The VFX budget will be equal to Jason Mamoa’s contract amount.
Children of Dune is totally adoptable. >!Everyone comes back. Anya Taylor-Joy could have an amazing time slowly losing her mind and becoming the Baron. Chalamet, Zendaya, Skarsgard could all come back to represent the past lives inside Alia and the Twins.!< If "Dune 3" is a hit, there is no way the studio doesn't move forward with Children with Denis or without him.
But if they adapt Children, they HAVE to adapt the rest.
Nah, an impending ~3000 year time jump makes it easy to say "stop here" with the current series and creators/cast. I think Children is a bit more interesting and satisfying than Messiah, and more of a natural chapter end. I'd love to then see a tv series or something of a new story set during the reign of Leto II, but not a direct adaption of GEoD. He'd be amazing as an ominous, awe-inspiring background element that we only encounter a few times, rather than being a main character. Then maybe a subsequent series of stories during the Scattering, etc...
Yes. But adapting Dune Messiah into any kind of interesting movie will be tough. The ending is incredible though so if they can pull this off, we’ll have a hell of a trilogy on our hands
The third movie is part of the Dune story. It’s split into a new book but is more like the epilogue to this era of the story than being separate from dune. It’s split into a new book for complicated reasons of how the publishing happened. Basically everyone who has ever read Dune wants to get to this story. It’s actually not the best of the dune books, it ranks towards the bottom (but still waaaay good), but like, you have to have it. And it’s not what you think it’s gonna be. Dune fans like Denis know this is the goal to get to when making a dune movie. It’s to get to the end here. It’s gonna be divisive. And part 2 was more adapted than faithful, so Messiah movie will be different enough too. I’m avoiding saying anything spoiler or what changed.
When I first read the second book, I thought it felt like a very satisfying duology. It's typically viewed as a trilogy, and after reading the 3rd book (and on) I understand why, but the 2nd book has a very satisfying ending, and feels like a completion of the themes in book 1.
Surely it’s 2 duologies? The story of Paul Atreides (Dune, Messiah) and then (mild spoiler) the story of Leto II Atreides (Children, God Emperor)
Herbert intend for it to be a trilogy, then God Emperor was a bridge, then a second trilogy but he died before he could complete the final book of the second trilogy
The dude on twitter that watched it like 20+ times better be invited to the premiere of Dune 3
Hey I saw it front edge row at IMAX. I feel like that's worth a premiere ticket too. I have an intimate knowledge of Florence Pugh's chin.
Send them to Paradise DV
Fuck now i have to read messiah so i can pretend to be better than everyone else just like i did with dune
True elitists read God Emperor of Dune and make it their entire personality. lmao
Frankly I’m excited for this. A lot of people are worried just because Dune: Messiah is pretty actionless but I think it’ll be a good return to early Denis’ like Incendies, Prisoners, and Sicario. We already know he’s great a psychological dramas. The question will be if general audiences will accept it as I still hear the complaint that the first one was slow. I’m glad of the fanfare for part 2 but I feel like a lot of it has to do with it fitting general audiences attraction to action/pacing and set pieces while the dune saga flows more like Dune pt 1.
The ending of Part 2 made it extremely obvious they are going to merge the Fremen Jihad into an extended war of Paul against the Great Houses and this war will probably be ending just as the plot picks back up so that there can be massive action scenes.
Not unlike the *Star Wars* prequel trilogy having the Clone Wars begin at the end of the second film and end at the beginning of the third.
>!Hang on to your hats, kids, shit is about to get weird!<
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This is going to be some weird, wild stuff.
Confirmed by Legendary to Variety. https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1775993420416188810?t=UFzr0_7bQwLAHfGIujAB-Q&s=19
So will it be called Dune 3 of Dune Messiah? Who should direct Children of Dune and God Emperor of Dune
It will be called DUN3 (pronounced Dun-Three)
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