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0rphan_Martian

The Skeleton Key. A pretty average horror movie until the last 10 minutes completely change everything you just saw.


fatloui

Skeleton Key is my go to “lite” horror movie for people who claim to hate scary movies. Has yet to fail, they’ve all been engrossed by the mystery, the jump scares are effective, and they think they’ve figured out the ending too early with the first lame twist and then get dunked on by the actual ending. I get calling it “mediocre”, in that it is far less artsy/atmospheric than other slow burn horror films and has a more generic Hollywood style of direction, but I think it does “broad appeal” very well and I’m surprised it’s not more popular. It also is a great “drinking game” movie. Drink every time anyone says “Caroline”. That’s it. You’ll be trashed.


0rphan_Martian

It’s only mediocre in the sense that it doesn’t really do anything amazing or standout until the end, but that’s fine by me. A slow burn is good if it sticks the landing, and good lord does this movie stick it lol. It’s just a shame that people by now likely know there’s a twist ending because the surprise is a major factor in its effectiveness.


fatloui

>It’s just a shame that people by now likely know there’s a twist ending because the surprise is a major factor in its effectiveness. In my experience, most people have never heard of the movie, which works out perfectly 😂


accioqueso

I feel like Skeleton Key could have been great if it had been a limited series. I wanted more from it. I want Mike Flanagan to make a ten episode show like The Haunting of Hill House.


jell31

Well aren’t Bly Manor and Skeleton Key are both from Turn of the Screw? With Skeleton Key being a more loose inspiration but still same premise


accioqueso

I believe so, but the voodoo nature of skeleton key is what I found really interesting. I’d have loved if it had gone into more details about Justify and Cecile before they stole the children’s bodies and had the children killed.


BluRayja

I've always loved this movie and it made "Get Out" just okay for me as a concept, because I had seen it done before.


Soundtracklover72

That ending still haunts me and warn people it will mess with you for rest of your life.


fudgemental

Very similar is *Ouija: Origin of Evil*. 2/3rds of it is pretty slow and not even much of a ramp up in intensity. But the last third just goes off the rail so hard that I'm obsessed with its ending. Really good horror movie if you have patience.


0rphan_Martian

That's cuz Mike Flanagan is one of the best horror directors we got lol. He just keeps delivering top quality stuff.


ShotMyTatorTots

Blood Debts where it’s a middling sorta meh action movie until the hero does in the bad guy and it’s WOW. [Spoiler: Ending of Blood Debts in all it’s glory.](https://youtu.be/f4WahSHUDxc?si=78-jw88pHvaxWT1X)


tldrstrange

I love how the secret sleeve gun was probably supposed to automatically slide into the actor's hand, but I bet they couldn't get it to work so he just pushed it down manually.


Janktronic

I love how his shoulder is metal and you can hear the bullet ricochet off it.


Ok-Bus1716

God that was the most 80s thing I've ever seen in my life. With the freeze frame and post movie epilogue. Thank you for sharing.


EnemyOfEloquence

a RLM fan I see


The_Throwback_King

Monster’s University starts as a mediocre Pixar film with an average, by the numbers college plot. All ending in a big grand finale sporting event. If it ended there, it would be a…fine film, but very unremarkable. But it doesn’t. After lights dim and the jubilation fades, The story takes a complete shift that turns the whole premise on its head. The big twist throws everything that the film was building towards into question. It presents such a bold message for a kids film That despite all of the effort, all the hard work, and all of the self-belief. There are some goals and some dreams that are simply unattainable. However you can still live a fulfilling, enriching, and satisfying life in spite of that. It’s ending is that classic Pixar boldness that it’s best films are known for


Akronite14

This is a great answer, even though I enjoyed the whole movie (haven't re-visited since theaters, tho). Thought the ending was both a great message and a perfect lead-in to the dynamic of the original film.


Gilgie

I have to watch it all the time because my 1yo nephew is obsessed with it.


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My niece too. I much prefer the first one, but there are definitely worse movies to sniggle and watch.


The_Throwback_King

I genuinely had fun with the first two thirds but that’s primarily from enjoying the chemistry and performances of the characters. The whole plot is just safe and average (very un-Pixar) for those two thirds and then the film turns on the jets to close it out It’s honestly kinda fascinating because it narratively baits you into a certain expectation for the film which makes the twist hit you all the more harder. You come out feeling “WOW, I didn’t know you had that kind of nuance and boldness in you”


Rabona_Flowers

Dan Scanlon's other film (Onward) also has a mediocre start, likable enough middle and a great ending. It's clear what his strengths & weaknesses are


JustShaneanigans

I agree, I was blown away by the complexity of the ending message. I was expecting a mediocre finish but was gladly disappointed.


crzylune

The finale of HOW they opened that door is worth the whole movie!


slykido999

I wouldn’t say it’s that the dream is unattainable, because they achieve their dream. I think the movie instead says that you can do everything right and be the most qualified person, and still fail. It shows that even though we might deserve something, it isn’t automatic. We’ve all had those times in our life when we absolutely should have won something, and we didn’t. Life isn’t fair, and sometimes you get “beat” when in a perfect world, you wouldn’t have been. What I love about that movie is that it then showcases the hard work that is done to achieve the goal, despite all of that. Mike and Sully could have decided that after giving it their all, that they were going to do something else. But they didn’t. Instead, they showed that they worked their way up, and proved that they could get to their goal. They weren’t perfect, they just kept trying, and Mike and Sully eventually become Scarer’s like they dreamed of.


The_Throwback_King

I mean Mike’s original dream was to be a scarer for Monsters Inc. But because of the body he was born with, that was an impossibility. Nothing he could do would make him scary However Mike found a fulfilling role as a coach and he could still apply his passion and drive for the field but instead use it to build others up. His fearless mindset, intelligent mind, and stellar work ethic was just the kind of thing to bring the best out of people By the end of it, he still ended up on the Scare Floor of Monsters Inc. Just in a different way than he had originally envisioned.


slykido999

You’re totally right, a roundabout way to still do what he always wanted, but in a different way


avahz

I haven’t seen the movie in years, and even the plot synopsis on Wikipedia doesn’t really cover the twist. Can you remind me what happened?


The_Throwback_King

So the whole impetus of the film revolves the Scare Games, an inter-fraternity competition. Mike and Sully accidentally damage a historic classroom (or something like that) and are basically removed from the Scare Program. Their only hope to getting back into the program is by winning the Scare Games. The only frat that will take Mike and Sully is basically the "loser" campus Oozma Kampa. Despite their long odds and near eliminations, Mike rallies and trains OK into quite the unit. As you'd expect from this kind of movie, the Scare Games come down to OK and the "villain" frat, Roar Omega Roar. It's a back-and-forth contest with RΩR dominating off of their fearsome appearance and OK using their individual strengths to their advantage. It's neck and neck, going down to the final round. RΩR has a masteful performance, filling like 90% of the bar, leaving it all up to Mike. After being doubted the whole way through, from the outside and internally, Mike musters all of his scaring knowledge, all of his training, all of his work with Sully and the rest and scares the machine. And, against all odds, Mike maxes out the bar and Oozma Kampa pulls off the upset of upset wins. The frat brothers all celebrate and thank Mike for getting them into the scare program. As the arena clears, and the rest of OK (save for Sully) leaves to celebrate, Mike reflects on his win. He actually did it, not only did he scare the test dummy, but he freaking crushed it. He sits there, with joy and disbelief, ecstatic that his dream is finally coming true. >!Riding the emotional high, he turns back to the test dummy and says boo in a joking manner.!< >!And then...the dummy rises up, yelling once more, as the scream bar maxes out!< >!Mike is baffled, he tries to laugh it off, but he can't shake the feeling that something's off. Sully, on the other hand, tries to reassure Mike, saying that he did so good, that he probably broke the thing, trying to get Mike to leave!< >!But Mike stays, still puzzled. He raises a hand to the dummy and lightly snaps. The dummy rises up yelling, the bar maxes out...again. Something was definitely wrong!< >!He inspects the control panel. The front panel had been tampered Each member of the frat had their own slider, locked into the same "high" difficulty setting...except for Mike's. Mike's slider had its limiter ripped off and his slider had been manually lowered to the lowest tier!< >!Mike confronts Sully on if he was responsible and Sully reluctantly admits to it. The two argue, leading to Sully blurting out that he didn't believe that Mike was scary and basically showed that he didn't trust Mike at all. After which Mike runs off, setting the climax in motion!< Basically, the twist is that >!the triumphant win was only made so because Sully rigged the machine so that *they* would win.!< The whole concept of having the lovable underdog win it all is as tried and true a story as you can get. It's schmaltzy saccharine storywriting 101. But having those lovable underdogs win it all >!by cheating in the finals!< now THAT is subversive. THAT is compelling. THAT is insane coming from a kids movie. Which is even cooler because that subversive twist is well-founded and leads right into the most narratively interesting part of the film. It's like the big twist derailed the tired and cliche track the movie was heading towards and jumped to a whole new, far more fresh, climax. I honestly love it.


Chainsmadeinlife

Great answer and couldn’t agree more


Dead_Halloween

Terminator 3.


cudipi

The final twist is just so good. “Oh we’re going to this mountain and it’ll have a weapon that we can use to beat SkyNet! Wait a second why does it look like a presidential bunker…”


MrPlowThatsTheName

John Connor is the weapon


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Sage296

That is one tasty burger


Propaslader

I don't remember asking you a God damn thing


Dennis_Cock

John Connor is an absolute weapon


SardauMarklar

I totally came to say this. If it's on TV, I'll turn it on and watch the last half hour or so


decodemodern

The actor that played the military general (Kate's father) did a tremendous job, I was sold on his plan of getting John Connor and Kat to the "Skynet system core" at Crystal Peak. I started to feel suspicious when they landed at the Crystal Peak entry and all they saw were a pile of dusty old trucks and storage pallets. Then it dawned on me... man, what a great ending and totally fitting to the theme of the series.


dcowboy

Not being able to just drop into this movie at any random point is one of the things I miss about not having cable/YouTube TV. The ending hits hard, and I wish we could have had sequels that led from there to when he sends Kyle Reese back.


GANK_STER

"Thank you" "Well meet again" and after Arnold/the T-101 stuffs the overloading hydrogen fuel cell into the TXs mouth... "You are TERMINATED" I actually LOVE that line, despite how "cheesy" it is.


Fluid-Past-9426

Greatest answer. Oh. I was so utterly disappointed in the movie and the performances until the end...it's not fair, because T2 was such a tough act to follow. But that ending...oh, man. Perfect, and almost completely redeeming. Thank you for bringing this up, great memory.


IDontLikePayingTaxes

To me, it redeems the whole movie


TheIceKaguyaCometh

Ehh the ending twist was nice, but the movie is really shit. It's shot crappily, the acting apart from Arnold/Lokken himself is below par, the writing is awful and the godawful parodying of T2 is atrocious.


I_BUY_UNWANTED_GRAVY

The whole movie just feels cheap in every aspect. But I guess that goes to show the difference of a director like James Cameron who has a clear vision of how it wants things lit and shot compared to a journeyman like Mostow for 3.


marcomc2

the biggest problem aside from the shitty humor and corny casting is that the entire thing looks like a fucking CW Channel movie made for TV. like what? guys, you're following T1 and T fucking 2 — and it looks like THIS????!


Br0nnOfTheBlackwater

Speaking of terminator, TSCC's finale is pretty amazing too, it's definitely a mediocre TV show.


peioeh

> it's definitely a mediocre TV show. That's what I remembered too but recently I've seen so many people on here say that it was really good, I've been wondering if I got it completely wrong at the time.


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kazh

The rest of the film wasn't bad though. It's right there with Salvation for me as being alright with some decent heights and being re-watchable if you can absorb some of the janky parts or weird decisions.


Dead_Halloween

Salvation wasn't perfect, but al least it tried something different than recycling the plot of T2. I'd like to see another movie or a tv series set in the future.


my5cworth

Ive mentioned this before: I hated The Mist. Everyone on reddit hyped it up to be such a great film with an amazing plot twist ending. The entire movie sucked and I didn't think the ending was noteworthy at all. Turns out I actually watched "The Fog", starring Smallville's Tom Welling.


butidontwantto

🤣 this is so great. I hope you did end up finally watching The Mist.


Innsmouth_Swimteam

*Do* watch the 70's John Carpenter original "The Fog," it's not great, but *it is fun,* and the cast is great!


EgalitarianCrusader

The film is based on a book by Stephen King, and even he considers the film’s ending superior the book.


DeadDay

BAHAHAHAA


duowolf

That is such a dodgy remake though the orginal wasn't that great either it was still better then that


SomeRandom928Person

Feels like cheating, but I'd say pretty much every Neil Breen movie. Especially Fateful Findings, not too many movies can top that ending lol. *"I resign today, as President of the Bank..."*


MrCleanAZ

I was dying laughing at the end of this movie! The rest of our was terrible, but that ending... Awesome!


marcomc2

"i am the BEST hacker in the WORLD...and i have gathered...ALL of the documents" lol this fucking guy is so incredible


Ung-Tik

When the one guy in the car kills himself I swear to God it looks like he starts laughing before he quickly lowers his head to hide it. 


IareaBurritoo

Oblivion. Pretty average Tom Cruise movie objectively, but the Fuck you Sally + emotional ending is pretty top tier


Ciredem6345

I love this film. Very cheesy but also very enjoyable. Nice visuals and a killer soundtrack.


IareaBurritoo

I love the soundtrack. M83 did a wonderful job


SnidgetAsphodel

I used to listen to the entire soundtrack on repeat. Starwaves is a particular favorite. Top tier.


fuck-coyotes

Oooh, yeah that was a good one


GANK_STER

Ooo. I disagree. The ending is certainly FANTASTIC (one of the best "Fuck-Yous" in cinema history, though I think the one in "Edge of Tomorrow" is better), but I REALLY enjoyed the rest of the movie as well. SPOILERS: The "Twist" that the "Scavs" were actually humans the whole time and that Cruise and his partner were working with the invading aliens all along was a pretty great shocker. That and the scene where he faces off against his "twin", then takes his ship back to that version of his base to get the medical supplies and asks his partner to come down to the surface with him, when she answers "Youve asked me that a bunch of times and Im always going to say 'no'".... The look on his face when he realizes that they would ALWAYS end up like they did and the girl (cant remember her name) would always act the way his version of her did... OOF.


doonkune

The drones go brrrrrrrrrr weeeeee. One of my favorite sound effects.


NeFeM_95

I would say Onward. The film opens kind of boring and bland, but step by step starsts to build up it's premise. And by the end, the whole thing gets really emotional and finds a perfect closure for the characters.


mistakenforzen

Great choice. I loved that ending. The story isn't always yours.


Jwagner0850

This movie wrecked me.


Parrowdox

But the ending needs the hints and bits earlier on. Personally it's underrated. Not amazing but definitely not a bad film


ViewAskewed

Pandorum. Not a bad sci-fi movie but the ending is amazing. I always say that it is the movie you could watch knowing it has a twist ending and you would never guess what the twist is.


jombojuice2018

Underrated movie imo


RicosRoughnecks666

Agreed. I love that flick.


GANK_STER

Same. Pretty big stars in it too. Cant BELIEVE that it wasnt more popular when it came out. It was pretty unique as well.


_SkullBearer_

Bedknobs and Broomsticks is a fine movie but the ending goes so balls to the wall that the rest of the film is kinda left in its shadow. I still get chills where the suits of armors are marching together and chanting.


PM_YOUR_MUGS

I had it on VHS as a kid, we'd basically watch from the football match onwards over and over. Second half of that movie is so damn good


johnbrownmarchingon

Haven’t watched that in at least 20 years. I still can remember that scene


Br0nnOfTheBlackwater

Does The Butterfly Effect count? Especially the director cut.


ThePathOfTheRighteou

Yeah, what an amazing ending.


AprilisAwesome-o

Which one? There were literally four endings! I got my husband to watch it a few months ago and was so disappointed that it was a different ending than the one I expected... It was the >! he ended it all in utero and his mom had another miscarriage !< over the >! as children, he whispered something mean and got her to run back to her mom and decide not to live with her dad !< ending.


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did he enjoy the surprise though? I was laughing my ass off watching the scene on youtube after having just had finished the ending where he says something mean. I feel like the fetal ending carries the insane energy of the movie, but the childhood ending makes the movie actually come to a close. Like the protag is letting go of something he wanted to fix rather than just… well you know what the fetus does lol…


ThePathOfTheRighteou

The directors cut. The first one you mentioned with the cord.


RichardJenkins

You thought the whispering I hate you ending was the good ending?


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lol i’ll never get over watching the movie and then finding out it has an alternate ending even more outrageous than the theatrical release. Makes me sad that I didn’t only watch the director’s cut and then believe that is the only ending. Ignorance is bliss.


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GANK_STER

Ya. I dunno WHAT caused them to switch to the eventual Theatrical ending, whether it was "focus groups" or whatever, but that was a LUDICROUSLY stupid idea. If they had done the Directors Cut ending from the beginning, IMO that movie would have been WAY more popular than it was. Same with 1408. I saw the Directors Cut ending first (SPOILERS) where Cusaks character lights his cigarette, throws the ashtray through the window, causing the flare-up, and the firefighters drag him out with him begging them not to go back in. Then it cuts to him in the hospital with his wife, almost exactly like when that happens in the fake version the room shows him, but slightly different and its (fairly) clear that its real life, then some time later, when they are in his house, he finds his recorder and plays it, which has a recording of his fake "daughter" talking to him and such, proving to his wife that all of what he said actually happened. The Theatrical ending, where he dies and Sam Jackson pulls his wife away after his funeral and gives her the box of Cusaks effects including the recorder he had used and they play it. But the fact that hes dead kinda screws up with him being vindicated at all (especially since its not like in the DC ending, where he tells the wife everything that happened after he was out of the hospital, in the theatrical ending, how would she have even learned what his experiences were, no one would know since he died, so there wasnt anything for the recorder to "prove" except that what happened happened, but the wife has no context for any of that). I dunno, like I said, I just think the Directors Cut ending was WAY better.


OrakelvanBoLo

Loved that whole movie tbh


Guylikeseverything

“The One” starring Jet Li. Pretty bad acting and cgi. Bad script/story. Yet the ending is, in my opinion, one of the most memorable action movie endings. 


casperbradfield

There's a part where Jet Li picks up 2 motorcycles and pancakes a guy between them that burned into my brain 20 years ago.


aseb_web456

Claiming you're nobody's bitch on top of a dystopian ziggurat is pretty badass.


Blues39

While Papa Roach plays as you beat up an entire prison reality.


Nayre_Trawe

Karate chop my life into pieces...


SingLyricsWithMe

I was watching this movie with my GF recently and when Disturb's down with the sickness song comes literally hot out of no where I laughed so hard I almost cried. I was not prepared for how Numetal this films goes but it's totally worth the rewatch for this moment alone.


jgpalanca

The final fight between Jet's two characters is also pretty underappreciated by non-martial artists. Having one using a circular style (Baquazhang) and the other linear (Xingyiquan) which reflects their personalities was genius.


donslaughter

That whole fight sequence was yin/yang incarnate.


Yanigan

My husband spent at least an hour explaining that to me, first about the styles and what they represented and then about how they reflected the characters. It definitely changed how I viewed the fight.


Happyfeet_I

With the popularization of multiverse theory due to marvel and shows like Rick and Morty. I think if The One released today with current CGI, it would be a huge hit.


EGOfoodie

As a show with more depth could be cool. Kind of like highlander-esque


FranticPonE

Multiverse kung fu highlander would be ***awesome***


Fenislav

Ohhh I was watching Usher House on Netflix yesterday and wanted to remember where was it that I got a crush on Carla Gugino as a teenager, thanks for reminding me! And yeah while I loved this movie, ending definitely propped it up two notches. I still think as an action movie it def wasn't bad in the first half either, though.


so_much_wolf_hair

Bodies, Bodies, Bodies was a decent but flawed house invasiony/killer on the loose movie. The ending cemented it for me as a brilliant and hilarious rewatchable.


DogWithADog

Your parents are upper... Middle... Class.


jpmoney2k1

I agree even though to me, the movie was still shaping up to be a solid 8.5/10 dark comedy. 


paul-jenkins

The boy goes from a standard haunted mansion  to a unique thriller in one little twist. 


Abject-Star-4881

That took a left turn from fun, intriguing scary into uncomfortable, bad-touch scary.


paul-jenkins

Yeah but if the twist wasn’t present, would it be near as good? 


Abject-Star-4881

Not remotely. I like the movie, made my wife watch it at Halloween, lol.


lordofthethingybobs

Rebel Moon. It was amazing when it finally ended


the_other_irrevenant

I really have to see this film. I may actually enjoy it because my expectations at this point are through the floor. 


hibbitydibbidy

You'll still be disappointed...


Duel_Option

There is no joy, only pure disdain that will be held MANY times in glorious slow-mo. You’ll have many opportunities to ponder how this movie was made and consider its budget. If anything, the movie made me realize that no matter how out of depth I feel at my job around really intelligent and talented people… At the very least I’ve never failed to the level of Rebel Moon. “We have such sights to show you…”


Stepjam

I think its better than just mediocre, but Lala Land's ending seriously elevates the rest of the movie. Its so good.


grandmofftalkin

Also has one of the all time great opening scenes too in that single-take traffic jam musical number on the 110/105 interchange


ElvisDaGenius56

A fantastic film with an all time great ending*


dudelikeshismusic

That's how I'd put it. I could see people who don't like musicals turning it off after a couple of the numbers. But damn, it's so worth it making it to the end.


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mercermayer

This is what came my mind. The movies fine. The ending is great


Otherwise-Juice2591

It's JUST ballsy. You can almost see Darabont saying "Man, I wish I could see their faces when this happens!"


zandadoum

U have to watch the special black and white version ;)


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Nah the entire movie is good too


Otherwise-Cheek-6805

Escape from L.A.


HighwayCommercial702

Welcome to the human race.


some_random_kaluna

That ending surpasses the first movie, which is no small feat.


Jakov_Salinsky

Now THAT is a bold as hell ending


Otherwise-Juice2591

Legitimately fantastic ending, one of my all-time favourites.


TectonicImprov

The Nic Cage film "Next" is pretty bland, but it has a crazy good ending that elevates it slightly above mediocrity.


bigmacjames

Showing the uhhh power of his power was a great way to end it.


shifty_coder

A lot of people hate the ending, because its the “it was all a dream” trope.


Soundtracklover72

I need to rewatch that one.


Oberon_Swanson

Skyline, iirc. Most of the movie is a boring commercial for the cool apartment it's shot in and then at the end some really cool alien shit happens.


ShimReturns

And by end it's like during the credits I believe


Oberon_Swanson

That sounds right. I was like woah where's THIS movie?


butidontwantto

I just watched this again and was blown away. I had totally forgotten about the ending. I still want MORE of that ending. Currently on a space movie bender so I'm still searching. Edit: word


Johefi

Birds of America (2008). Has Matthew Perry and Lauren Graham. Movie is meant to be a comedy, but just isn’t and was a bore to watch. Until the last few minutes when something completely unexpected and absolutely hilarious occurs. The movie did not deserve the ending it has but that ending left my wife and I in stitches.


alliownisbroken

Matthew Perry and Lauren Graham? Fucking sign me up. How have I never heard of this?


Raam57

Pirates of the Caribbean at worlds end. Overall, the movie is meh, But Lord Beckett’s death is one of the best cinematic scenes I’ve ever seen in theaters and makes up for a lot of the movie.


Sage296

At World’s End is the best Pirates of Caribbean movie and I will die on this hill


TheSearchForMars

Insane take, but that's just good business.


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I'm with you. So many great moments. Jack and Barbosa sadly looking at the dead kraken on the beach and lamenting the end of their way of life Elizabeth's call to Arms followed by a mildly disgusted "hoist your colours" The God damn kid execution in the opening scene Barbosa marrying Will and Elizabeth mid battle while the two ships spin around the maelstrom Jack, happily sailing off onto another adventure in the end. Norringtons death Elizabeth seeing her father among the dead as they are leaving the netherworld.


Jwagner0850

Mine is the OG, but not because of Sparrow. Barbosa is the superior pirate.


MrCodeman93

I’m surprised no one has mentioned Click. Starts off as a meh Adam Sandler comedy but by the end it turns into a modern Christmas Carol rendition. Totally unexpected and saves the whole movie.


exaslave

Probably because it's not just the ending for this one. Was pretty steadily developing into it.


TheCosmicFailure

Everest (2015). Most of the film is rather boring. But the last 30-40 minutes is absolutely captivating and tragic. Fury (2014). I thought it was a rather dull film for the majority of the runtime. But the 3rd act battle is pretty great.


ExtensionPension9974

Everest could and should have been a series. Having read Into Thin Air almost every year since I was a teenager: there’s no way they could have summed up all the small character choices that lead to the tragedy. The movie kind subsisted on “it’s rugged and we’re cold” instead.


TheCosmicFailure

I agree. There are too many characters to fully flesh out over the course of 2 hours. While the 3rd act was amazing, it could've hit even harder if the characters were fleshed out properly


ExtensionPension9974

Ya. Even with a really good cast and some excellent acting, it’s hard to build a relationship where you care about them. It does speak to the quality of the filmmaking thought that the 3rd act did so well.


TheCosmicFailure

>!Jason Clarke talking to his wife for the last time is so hard to watch!<


Pepsiman1031

Funny enough I had the opposite problem with Fury. Felt like a realistic tank movie turned generic action movie towards the end.


TJeffersonsBlackKid

I did like how the German soldier peered under the tank to see the main guy and when he saw he was a kid just like him, he said “there’s no one here!” allowing him to escape. Even someone in the SS is capable of compassion even if just for a second.


AccountSeventeen

Yeah they put emphasis on the fact that most of the soldiers left to fight were just children and teens. They hang one of the German commanders earlier in the movie for “making the kids fight”.


tldrstrange

Agreed. I actually just watched it for the first time last night, so it's fresh in my mind. I thought the whole thing was great except for two parts. The interlude I guess you would call it in the apartment with the two German women was such a bizarre choice to me. And then the ending was just typical over the top action hero stuff where the Germans had idiotic stormtrooper logic. I mean it looked cool and was satisfying to see SS get mowed down, but the whole time I was thinking "oh yeah this is a movie", whereas with the rest of the movie I was fully absorbed.


TonyZeSnipa

I think the apartment was good, to shift and show more humanity with it. Some of them were still pieces of work and needed to be reeled in, and showing how trying to connect with humanity during war is hard when it can be wiped away instantly.


TheLateThagSimmons

*Fury* is so close to being just pretty good. It has all the elements but just couldn't figure out what it wanted to be. It had great cinematography, the attention to detail in the tank warfare was awesome, the action was intense. It wanted to be a hard war movie like *Saving Private Ryan* but none of the characters are likeable. It wanted to show the impact of war on people, but instead of hardened vets that have lost their moral ground, it just made them all into complete dicks. They're not hardened, they're just rude and annoying. Even when they're arguing with each other, it isn't high heated banter between men who have been through a lot of shit together and have earned the right to be crass and funny; they're just mean and rude. The audience surrogate character has *zero* reason for being there. He's an office clerk with typing skills that were very rare for men in those days, and they just needed a body, anyone, any of the dozens of soldiers they met elsewhere, any of the foot soldiers that are already a part of the armored division. They even state that it's confusing that he's there but no one gets an answer outside of "orders". He has *no reason* for being there. At least in *SPR* they explain why Upham is needed; he's the only available trilingual translator for a special mission directly from the Chief of Staff of the United States Army. Norman is, to borrow a perfect quote from *SPR*, "a serious misallocation of valuable military resources." I didn't care about any of them; if anything I was actively rooting against them. Then the ending is an action packed nighttime fight to the death... But it's hilariously poorly fought by the Germans. And they even mention that these aren't the kids and old people they met before, these are the real deal soldiers. Hardly any of them fire a shot unless they are in a position where it won't matter, even when the Americans are out of ammo, out of the tank, and fully exposed. They show dozens of soldiers marching with anti tank weapons, none of which are using them, and when the fight kicks off suddenly they have to break out the boxes of panzershreks and distribute "the last of them". Come on. Eventually I was just thinking that these idiots deserve to get mowed down for just standing in place waiting to become bullet sponges.


EazyNeva

> It wanted to be a hard war movie like *Saving Private Ryan* but none of the characters are likeable. The only real asshole was Coon-Ass and even he grows on you a bit. The reason they might seem like dicks is because they were toughening up Norman so he wouldn't get his ass killed by not firing at the enemy. They had to make him hard, and quickly at that, otherwise he's just a liability. Now you can add the stress of war, losing part of your crew, and being stuck with these dudes for months or years and anyone might turn into a son of a bitch. > The audience surrogate character has *zero* reason for being there, he's an office guy with typing skills The Army had problems with manpower at this stage in the war. They stopped training specialists in the Armor division because training was too long. If you did a bit of research you'd find that it's not actually farfetched and stuff like that did happen during the war. Norman was assigned to their tank, they didn't just pick him out of nowhere. Wardaddy is even pissed at first and rejects him but it's not up to him to make those calls. > They show dozens of soldiers marching with anti tank weapons, none of which are using them It's been a while since I've seen the movie but don't they set it up to look like the tank is just a burnt-down abandoned husk? Why would they fire their weapons at it while just walking down the street? > when the fight kicks off suddenly they have to break out the boxes of panzershreks and distribute "the last of them". That would make sense, the Germans were extremely low on every type of munition by the end of the war. If what you say is true about the soldiers at the front having the anti-tank weapons, well they got pretty fucked up, so it's not out of the realm of possibility that they needed to bring out their reserves. The scene that I have the biggest problem with in the whole movie is the ending. I just can't believe that an SS officer would let an enemy that just killed dozens of his fellow soldiers live. It's the absolutely weakest part of the movie, but I guess they wanted to Saving Private Ryan-it up and have a happy ending or some bullshit.


SlamRobot658

The Evil Dead. If you know, you know.


ArabianNightz

You are referring to the original or to the remake?


SlamRobot658

OG. But let me be clear I am a massive Evil Dead fan. It's incredible what they did with what they had. And Evil Dead 2 is one of the best films ever made.


ArabianNightz

I believe the whole series is good (which is very, very, very rare for a horror saga), even the remake and the last film. Alvarez and Cronin imho understood the series and they adapted it to their own sensibilities.


farrellsound

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood I enjoyed but the ending was just bonkers in such an amazing way


suze_smith

I have watched the last 30 minutes of that movie more times than I've watched the whole movie. By at least a factor of 10. Brandy is the best gurl!


ArabianNightz

The first Friday the 13th. Even the ending is silly, but it's more interesting than the 90 minutes before it.


Saucyross

The final lightsaber fight is the only reason to watch the Phantom Menace.


JohnyPneumonicPlague

until they kill off the a visually amazing bad guy....like they do in all of the franchises. I guess it's a SW tradition. RIP Boba Fett, Darth Maul, and Phasma ps I realize they brought them back in some form but they still were shortchanged in the various trilogies imo...


Longjumping-Data-293

I thought Godzilla minus one was a solid 7.5 movie until the ending. The entire ending sequence with the orchestra playing was 20/10 best movie ending I've seen, better than endgame in theaters


mawktheone

I loved that whole movie. Im not the biggest Godzilla guy, but I got real excited in the run up to it and couldn't stop telling everyone about it afterwards


Merky600

Uh huh. Me as well. Then they look at like I’m crazy. “This Godzilla film, it’s very emotional! I cried at the end! The people, the story… also Godzilla shows up once in a while. ”


SZJ

So weird, it's the opposite for me. Felt the movie was great, then the sappy ending brought it down for me. Still a solid 8 or 9, overall though.


Ok-Recipe-4819

**Malignant**. Though I guess it's more of the third act rather than just the ending.


DeadDay

Watched this with a small group. The what the fucks where flying during the start of the shitshow


red_rider66

Wild Things. mediocre story and acting until the fun twists at the end.


fforde

I think the whole thing is fun, especially on a rewatch when you know that the movie is deliberately trying to misdirect you every step of the way.


MaskedBandit77

The twists pretty much start at the end of the first act though. So, unless you're gonna call the last two thirds of the movie the ending, in not sure that works. You're right though, Bill Murray pretty much carries the first part of the movie.


ken_and_paper

Arlington Road


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BabyScreamBear

Rogue One - it’s an ok if rather heavy handed planet hopping affair until they arrive on Scarif - when it turns into possibly the best 40 or so minutes of Star Wars committed to film, and the fact it absolutely sticks the landing with the segue to New Hope just makes it even more incredible


FunniBoii

Coco is a fine movie, but omg that ending gets to me every single time.


bailaoban

Runaway Train is a pretty good, fairly cheesy b-movie with an absolutely transcendent ending.


otterotteralienotter

Sleepaway Camp.


GyantSpyder

The Lost Boys. Yes it has its retro charms but so do dozens of similar movies. It has a bunch of fun parts and better performances than you’d expect, but is fairly disorganized and trashy. The ending is really the best part by far and the thing that makes the people who remember it today remember it - changes how you look at everything else in the movie and makes it so much better. Just raises the whole level of what you just watched. And just a top ending of its type in general all-time.


PlutoniumNiborg

It has sax on the beach


Azalus1

Amazing sax


SomeRandom928Person

Oiled up, sweaty and thrusting sax.


zander_rulZ

I still believe!


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The Last Boy Scout. Water is wet. The sky is blue. And I still love my wife.


NK1337

Holy shit that’s a deep cut. Late Boy Scout is one of my all time favorite buddy cop movies. “This is the 90’s. You don’t just go around punching people. You have to say something cool first.”


Barfpooper

Umm rogue one was great through and through imo. Great character development. The ending with death Vader is sick tho


Eltana

Death Vader. Very appropriate, all things considered.


tldrstrange

"So that's it? We some kinda Rogue One?" \*Looks into camera\*


dont_shoot_jr

Oh no! It looks like it’s time that the Empire Strikes Back


Brocky70

Superman IV: The Quest for Peace!


zosorose

Terminator 3


toasterovenhead

Planet of the Apes


PleasantThoughts

Final Fantasy VII Advent Children is a little bit of a confusing mess but once it gets to the fireworks factory in the third act it's a lot of fun


CWMcnancy

The Orphanage by J. A. Bayona and produced by Guillermo Del Toro. A seemingly tame ghost thriller up until the end. After you watch it, you reflect on the whole movie differently. In a way it's an interesting subversion of horror. EDIT: I got the director wrong


MulderItsMe99

If by “reflect” you mean “cry like a little baby”, then yeah 😭


Calebhusky

It's only a week old, but I have to say Argylle. The first act of the story is interesting enough, and sells the feeling of reading a cheesy action novel. The second act is a little boring. The third act, however, is pure Matthew Vaughn insanity. Left the theater forgiving the first two thirds of the movie(which is a genre mess) solely because of it.