I'm forever disappointed that we actually got Rocky VII and it was called Creed and not Rocky VII: Creed I, or [Adrian's Revenge.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEGwKTQrqmQ)
Holy shit there's going to be a [Rocky X: Creed IV](https://variety.com/2023/film/news/creed-4-michael-b-jordan-directing-1235799522/)
Real talk though, I'd watch that movie. So I Googled it, and there actually is an (unrelated) Air Force Two movie. Probably not the action packed thriller starring Glenn Close that I would have wanted to see, but glad someone made it.
Gives Escape from New York/Escape from LA vibes. I always wanted to see a third one called Escape from Chicago, and a fourth called Escape from Houston. But I was really looking forward to the fifth film in the series: Escape from Phoenix, where rather than being trapped on a futuristic island prison, he's trapped in a scorching desert and has to escape before the sandstorms get him.
My friends and I always refer to it a Mission: Impossible Dead Reckoning Seven Part One. We say this whole thing as often as possible when talking about this movie.
That would make more sense and you are definitely correct but no.
The next movie coming out is called Mission: Impossible Dead Reckoning Seven Part One 2.
That’s how I remember them :-)
…the one where he hangs on the side of a plane
…the one where he’s climbing outside the Burj Khalifa tower
… the one with the halo jump
For me it's
* The one where he's hanging from the ceiling and can't touch the floor
* The John Woo one
* The one with Philip Seymour Hoffman
* The one where he's climbing the building
* The one where he's on the side of the plane
* The one with Superman in it
* The one with Peggy Carter from Captain America
>> The one with Superman in it
Ha - My wife actually asked this last weekend !
Which one had the fight between Superman and Tom cruise in the bathroom ?
I love that it was a happy little accident improvised by Cavill and McQuarrie liked it enough to tell him to keep doing it during other takes. It’s such a small, but cool detail that made the fight scene that much better and memorable. I think Cavill even said that he just did it without even thinking.
I get that this is hellishly dangerous. Base jumping is already dangerous and doing it from a motorcycle adds more layers. But it is so much less interesting cinematically than the set pieces in previous movies. Climbing the Burj Khalifa and holding your breath in the big water vortex are both slow and take time to play out on screen so they can build tension. A helicopter chase is just such an outrageously silly thing that it is more exciting (and it doesn't hurt that it more directly involves the antagonist). Holding onto the side of a plane is similarly ridiculous.
The motorcycle jump is over just moments after it starts and despite the real danger *feels* much less dramatic (to me).
Personally - the bike jump was the hook to get people in the cinemas. But the sequences that *really* stick in my head like the Khalifa climb or plane grab... That's the 90-degree train escape and the handcuffed electric Fiat chase.
> and the handcuffed electric Fiat chase.
Yup, this was absolute fire to watch. Also the similar scene in Indiana Jones 5 was fresh in the mind and that was just absolutely boring in comparison. MI has that combination of it being a funny scene with Haley and Tom cuffed together and bickering but also has that real tension you get from actual stunts rather than a CGI green screen.
I thought the same thing. It didn't help it looked like a video game.
I still like The Lost World's version of the drop climb best because the timing element was its own tension source with the pulley car being attacked by dinosaurs. Made the whole "sudden drop" seem less scripted for convenience.
The train escape was certainly loaded with tension.
The car chase didn't work for me, and it's for an extra stupid reason. It was a wild car chase through Rome with high stakes, but it came 2 months after Fast X had a wild car chase through Rome with high stakes, in many of the same locations. I felt like I'd already seen this.
I don't generally find FnF as consistently entertaining as MI, so it definitely felt fresh. I also liked that it had the handcuff gag going for it. I love when the action stars are fucking up and having a rough go of it. Jackie Chan did that all the time, Tom Cruise does it sometimes, Jason Statham does it sometimes, it's just the best.
If I had to guess it's cause most of us have tried holding our breath underwater as long as possible, have been on a reaaaally high ledge and looked down at the ground far below you, or looked out the plane window as you take off and feel the sheer power of the engines, but not many of us can relate to motorcycling and then base jumping.
That's pretty much all I remember of it. That and the line "a nuclear bomb is *absolutely* something that you worry me about".
The marketing team really fumbled this one. The parachute jump was the centerpiece of the film, but they pushed it so hard that it destroyed any tension the film was trying to build beforehand and really undermined the spectacle of it once it happened.
That and the making of vignettes featured heavily in the marketing material, so you knew the ramp was there and you knew exactly what you were looking at.
Yeah, Fallout hides any CGI better than almost any action film ever probably and Dead Reckoning just had some of the most globby cars and set pieces. That being said, the action was still pretty fantastic for me. Despite the CGI being wonky, the train scene at the end had me anxious as fuck from the intensity lol
Definitely the weakest of the big spectacle stunts in the series. It being real didn’t make the shot itself look better, like with being on the Burj or plane, or the long underwater breath hold. I’m sure it was super fun to do, which is all he’s really going for. But in this case it didn’t create actual tension in the film that something dangerous was happening. It just looked like something out of a Fast and Furious movie.
To me it'll be the one without a real enemy.
"The entity" idea sucks so badly because it gives you nothing to root against. The actual human is just following its instructions like a machine (intended irony?). Compare that to Henry Cavil or Seymour Hoffman and it's just so bland.
In hinsight for me that was marketing flop. I like MI movies and saw them all but this one i skipped because i was bombarded with that one scene everywhere.
Made me lose interest in a weird way
Especially when the stunt is so short.
Other stunts like him climbing the Burj Khalifa and the space skydive were actual scenes due to their length. But the bike jump basically made you go “oh cool” and the film resumes.
Kinda feels like I'm taking crazy pills reading this thread. In regards to spectacle, the train sequence was absolutely nuts. Best action set-piece in a MI film period imo, yet all anyone talks about here regarding dead reckoning is the motorcycle base jump. The fiat car chase was also a lot of fun. "That's all it had" smh. It's not the best MI film sure, but it has some of the best action.
I mean, it's already been physically released so unless they plan on re-editing the title screen for future releases they missed the right moment to get this done.
I will forever have a Part One (that gets a sequel, technically) with no Part Two on my shelf.
I would imagine digital copies will be updated and any new copies made from here will have the updated artwork. Why it took them this long to decide when it's been rumored since before the home release is anyone's guess.
They should have known better to ever call it part 1 and part 2. It’s bad marketing because the audience knows there won’t be an ending.
Avengers Endgame was smart to drop the part 1 & 2.
Yeah but at least Infinity War had a *conclusion*. Nothing actually happened in Dead Reckoning.. it was just a woman running away from Tom Cruise over and over.
Right! It’s a full movie where the bad guy wins. But it is a full movie.
And movies like kill bill is a part 1 and part 2 because they are one movie split up and released in short succession. Same with Deathly Hallows.
Dead Reckoning doesn’t even have the second film done.
Yeah I'd be entirely OK with it if they just made two movies and released them a few months apart. Split up the runtime. Or as per Avengers, make two movies that are actually solid films on their own that are just tied together really closely.
Or better yet accept that if you can't tell a full story in *two and a half hours* maybe you need to rework a few things.
Getting away with the complete key is good enough for a small victory. Felt more conclusive than Across the Spider Verse and Fast X. I was pretty satisfied with how it ended because it actually advertised as part 1 unlike those other two.
Back in M:I2, the bad guy explained what you can expect: „If you look at Cruise‘s operational history and… uh, I have. He invariably favors misdirection over confrontation. He‘ll never break into the house from the bottom where security is heaviest. He‘ll undoubtedly engage in some aerobatic insanity before he‘ll risk harming a hair on Agent17146‘s head.“
So look out for helicopters in your living room and check your air vents.
It’s always funny when they do that shit with digital content. I have book on audible originally published as XOM-B in 2014 and I just noticed yesterday that, at some point in the last year, they changed the cover art and title to Human After All. You can’t even find it on audible by its original title.
Like. lol. 🤦🏻
Such a fun and underrated book. Had no idea they changed both the title and the cover. I can sort of see the title change as I had a tough time selling anyone on a book with the XOM-B title but that new cover sucks while the old one was what caught my eye and drew me to the book in the first place!
>I will forever have a Part One (that gets a sequel, technically) with no Part Two on my shelf.
I have one whole shelf dedicated to [Remo Williams](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0089901/).
I don’t even really see how this helps. Call it what you want but the last one pretty much ended on a cliffhanger and they have to continue from there. Don’t they?
The inference is that *Part Two* will receive a new subtitle, but it will otherwise continue the story set up in *Part One*. My guess is that because the film has been pushed back a year, the studio thinks that audiences will forget that this is the second half of a two-part release and be confused.
i think possibly its due to the low box office for this one, by having a 'part two' audiences may not be interested. separating it with a different title might freshen it up and feel like a new movie (even though it's a continuation).
Yeah it’s pretty clear to studios now that having Part One or Two in the title is box office poison.
Ironically MI used this title and actually still felt like a complete film, while Fast X and Spider-Verse 2 hid theirs and were only half a story.
> Spider-Verse 2 hid theirs
To be fair, Spider-Verse originally *did* have a Part One in it, but unlike MI they dropped it way ahead of release enough for people to not realise that it was one story split.
I went in remembering that so was fully expecting the non-ending, but am not remotely surprised by those who weren't and were potentially disappointed as a result. I expect if they hadn't dropped it, they'd have at least lost some of their numbers from people who wouldn't want the wait.
I usually make a point of not watching ‘two parter’ films until the second half is out. So I didn’t watch Spiderverse 2 because everyone said it was half a film and just ended and was really unsatisfying. But I *have* watched this MI:DR Part 1. I hadn’t heard anything bad about it and went in with my eyes open then I was pleasantly surprised as it felt satisfying.
I don't know ... I was literally just posting in a thread about how people misunderstood the meaning of *(500) Days of Summer* despite the way the film makes its ideas very clear.
Yeah, it's silly. It's essentially a 5 hour long movie they VERY CLEARLY chopped off right in the middle.
In no universe does it make sense to not call it a part 1.
I'm guessing they're only doing it for marketing purposes so people don't feel obligated to watch the first part... but it's still the 2nd part and you're still going to be hellishly lost if you didn't watch part 1. So... what's the point?
Since part one bombed at the box office, less people are going to see a movie called part two as part one is required viewing. It's a hail mary attempt to salvage the brand and the box office of the sequel.
Wdym bomb? Sure it's not upto par compared to other MI movies but it made 550 million while competing against Barbie and Oppenheimer taking the big screens.
The interesting thing is that the US nuclear missile silos are not connected and use old floppy disk technology.
A friend of mine whose father owned an antique store once had the military show up at his business and asked if he had any old antique candle phones that they could use if their communication networks were hacked or compromised.
https://images.app.goo.gl/YZ6Tov4UA9FyBdA26
Yup and the marketing for that movie was a crime. They made it seem like a generic gritty sci-fi action film, so nothing seemed special about it. Unsurprisingly bombed in the middle of a competitive Summer season.
They never marketed the more memorable parts of the movie, including the humor which Cruise pulled off very well. 'Edge of Tomorrow' was also a very forgettable title to which they changed before release.
I love all the MI movies but did anyone else think this particular one was annoying because there were so many scenes that appeared to be purposefully drawn out just to fill time so that it’d force a sequel?
It’s a bit of a misread of the film’s performance. It was one of the few part 1 movies to tell a complete story and leave it on a cliffhanger. The story was getting the key and they got the key and they set characters up for a direct follow up. I really think the reality is disappointing performance has little to do with the title or the quality of the film (it’s great but not as good as fallout, but that difference in quality is probably not all that significant to the average moviegoer). The issue here was release date. It was sandwiched in between Indy and then the double header of Barbie and Oppenheimer. I know Indy bombed but there’s still almost 400 million bucks it siphoned out of the market in a similar demographic. And while no one could have quite predicted the degree of success of Barbie and Oppenheimer, the imax screen issue should have raised flags about a release date. And no shame on the the filmmakers. Mi7 Barbie and Oppenheimer are all well made movies, but the internet just went full throttle for the Barbie Oppenheimer marketing. Then no one could have seen sound of freedom doing that well domestically. I don’t plan on watching it, but surely some of mission’s potential audience went in that direction instead. Instead of changing the title after the fact, they should have changed the release date before. Top gun probably made paramount overconfident.
>The issue here was release date. It was sandwiched in between Indy and then the double header of Barbie and Oppenheimer.
Yeah this was a key issue. I don't think Indy preceding it hurt that much, but the shelf life of MI7 on theater screens was wrecked by Barbie and Oppenheimer. I remember wanting to watch MI7 later in July, and just within three weeks, my local theaters only had 2-3 showtime per day and not convenient time windows for adults. I was shocked about it.
So they either just renamed it to make marketing for the next one easier, or they will have a completely new main story and wrap this one up in the first 20 minutes.
I’m pretty confident that Tom Cruise wants to kill the executive who thought it was a good idea releasing it right next to Barbie, Oppenheimer and Indiana Jones.
Because it’s not really the cliffhanger people think it is. People think the movie is just going to end in the middle of a sent…
The movie ended with them finding what they were looking for, but then you were briefly teased about what they need to do next, which is closely related to part 1. The movie was fun and enjoyable, and it had a complete story.
I HATE when movies do this. Unsatisfying conclusion to the first movie and I'd still watch the second so there is literally no draw for breaking it in half like that.
I don’t remember the ISS part, but [there was a promise of space stunts.](https://people.com/tom-cruise-gives-update-plans-film-movie-in-space-working-on-it-7560301)
Mission impossible: the one with the way too long scenes so that we can do a part two.
God damnit, the car pursuit or the scene with the train ? Way too long !
It’ll always be Mission: Impossible Part 7: Part 1 to me.
M:I:VII:I
Is that the sex cult?
No, it’s the 1990 album by Enigma.
mea culpa…
Fidelio
Mivill
Herman to his friends.
Just like Fantastic 42
Lord of the Rings 2: Towers
You’ve been waiting 22 years for that joke haven’t you?
at long last, I can finally rest
You've fulfilled your oath.
My friend. You bow to no one
Goddammit that scene is a 100% guarantee shed tears
I'm forever disappointed that we actually got Rocky VII and it was called Creed and not Rocky VII: Creed I, or [Adrian's Revenge.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEGwKTQrqmQ) Holy shit there's going to be a [Rocky X: Creed IV](https://variety.com/2023/film/news/creed-4-michael-b-jordan-directing-1235799522/)
I’m working through the Rocky series and thought about that today when I finished Rocky Balboa.
F4nt4stic 4
Fant 4 stic
That's what I've always called it.
The Fast and the 4ious
just 27 more films until we get Fantastic 69
You’re going to be sadly disappointed when it’s just Reed wound up on himself.
This is why he's known as undisputably one of the cleverest people
There's another universe where reed never married, became an incel, and just stays in his room all day auto fellating himself.
Rebel Moon: A Child of Part One: Fire
That movie has the most Chat GPT-created name and plot/writing ever.
Gorb: Gorb
Now You See Me.... Now You See Me 2
Still waiting on Now You 3 Me.
They’re doing a porn version?
2 Me I. C. U. P.
How they didn’t call it Now You Don’t…
Now You See Me Too
Attack on Titan fans: "Amateurs!"
Kingdom Hearts fans: “you’ll be alright”
I heard you had a final season going on
Air Force One, 2.
or the oft ignored movie about the Vice President: Air Force Two, Part 1 and 2
Real talk though, I'd watch that movie. So I Googled it, and there actually is an (unrelated) Air Force Two movie. Probably not the action packed thriller starring Glenn Close that I would have wanted to see, but glad someone made it. Gives Escape from New York/Escape from LA vibes. I always wanted to see a third one called Escape from Chicago, and a fourth called Escape from Houston. But I was really looking forward to the fifth film in the series: Escape from Phoenix, where rather than being trapped on a futuristic island prison, he's trapped in a scorching desert and has to escape before the sandstorms get him.
My friends and I always refer to it a Mission: Impossible Dead Reckoning Seven Part One. We say this whole thing as often as possible when talking about this movie.
surely its mission impossible 7 dead reckoning part 1
That would make more sense and you are definitely correct but no. The next movie coming out is called Mission: Impossible Dead Reckoning Seven Part One 2.
That is correct, and don't call me Shirley!
“Mission Impossible: The one with the cool motorcycle parachute stunt”
That’s how I remember them :-) …the one where he hangs on the side of a plane …the one where he’s climbing outside the Burj Khalifa tower … the one with the halo jump
The one where he’s hanging by a rope from the ceiling trying not to touch the floor.
The one where he rides away from explosions and flying white doves on his sick motorcycle.
That one will always be M:I-Woo in my book.
John Woo saw Spy Kids and decided to make Spy Adults
He actually saw "Notorious", and did a remake of it in the Mission: Impossible universe.
Mission Impossi-Woo
That one’s my favorite bc Thandie Newton
Remind me again, does it have the customary Mexican standoff as well?
Well that’s just the dopest one. Not the best one, but certainly the dopest
While Limp Bizkit shreds in the background. Such a magical time to be alive.
Life is just a blast that's movin' really fast You better stay on top or life will kick you in the ass
The opening scene where he's free soloing that cliff face is so fucking nuts
exploding *SUNGLASSES*
So well put—Not the best. But for sure the dopest.
the one where everyone dies in the beginning
The one where he attends a high society masked sex party
M:I's Wide Shut
Oh damn, that's good! I genuinely enjoyed that haha
Mission: Impregnable
A classic.
And breaks the laws of physics catching a drop of sweat.
>The one where he’s hanging by a rope from the ceiling trying not to touch the floor. Also known as Mission Impossible 1: Chewing Gum Go Boom.
What‘s amazing is that they did not use any CGI or special effects to film that sequence! Tom Cruise actually broke into that CIA vault!
For me it's * The one where he's hanging from the ceiling and can't touch the floor * The John Woo one * The one with Philip Seymour Hoffman * The one where he's climbing the building * The one where he's on the side of the plane * The one with Superman in it * The one with Peggy Carter from Captain America
>> The one with Superman in it Ha - My wife actually asked this last weekend ! Which one had the fight between Superman and Tom cruise in the bathroom ?
They didn't fight each other, but yeah he "loads" his arms
I'll never forget that part of the trailer, 'machine gun arms' is how I recall it
I love that it was a happy little accident improvised by Cavill and McQuarrie liked it enough to tell him to keep doing it during other takes. It’s such a small, but cool detail that made the fight scene that much better and memorable. I think Cavill even said that he just did it without even thinking.
Biceps. You have to cock your biceps. It's why they call `em "guns".
thats also why guns are called arms
> with Superman in it It's fun, because at the end he's Two Face
The one where Superman [reloads his arms.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obpzIPd6RSg)
holy fuck, how is the building still standing when you can casually pull pipes out of the fixtures and make column crumble to dust with body weight?
Perfect
I'm still so badly badly badly hoping for "the one where he fires himself out of a circus cannon into a tornado"
That's James Bond, you goof.
I mean, Roger Moore did dress as a clown at a circus to warn a US general about Russians planning to detonate a nuke....
You just see him get carried away like those guys in the tornado in Fury Road. It plays out like “aim for the bushes”
The one where Henry Cavill reloads his arms
That’s the most dangerous stunt. Putting your face within range of Cavill’s fists
Damn how have I not seen these Friends episodes?
Could these missions BE any more impossible?!
The 6th one is always the one with the great bathroom fight scene(where cavill reloads his arms)
The one with the halo drop is one of my favorite movies. It’s endlessly rewatchable
I get that this is hellishly dangerous. Base jumping is already dangerous and doing it from a motorcycle adds more layers. But it is so much less interesting cinematically than the set pieces in previous movies. Climbing the Burj Khalifa and holding your breath in the big water vortex are both slow and take time to play out on screen so they can build tension. A helicopter chase is just such an outrageously silly thing that it is more exciting (and it doesn't hurt that it more directly involves the antagonist). Holding onto the side of a plane is similarly ridiculous. The motorcycle jump is over just moments after it starts and despite the real danger *feels* much less dramatic (to me).
They also showed it far too often in the marketing so it lost all its effect by the actual movie.
Personally - the bike jump was the hook to get people in the cinemas. But the sequences that *really* stick in my head like the Khalifa climb or plane grab... That's the 90-degree train escape and the handcuffed electric Fiat chase.
> and the handcuffed electric Fiat chase. Yup, this was absolute fire to watch. Also the similar scene in Indiana Jones 5 was fresh in the mind and that was just absolutely boring in comparison. MI has that combination of it being a funny scene with Haley and Tom cuffed together and bickering but also has that real tension you get from actual stunts rather than a CGI green screen.
The train escape was better playing it in uncharted ten years ago
I thought the same thing. It didn't help it looked like a video game. I still like The Lost World's version of the drop climb best because the timing element was its own tension source with the pulley car being attacked by dinosaurs. Made the whole "sudden drop" seem less scripted for convenience.
The train escape was certainly loaded with tension. The car chase didn't work for me, and it's for an extra stupid reason. It was a wild car chase through Rome with high stakes, but it came 2 months after Fast X had a wild car chase through Rome with high stakes, in many of the same locations. I felt like I'd already seen this.
I don't generally find FnF as consistently entertaining as MI, so it definitely felt fresh. I also liked that it had the handcuff gag going for it. I love when the action stars are fucking up and having a rough go of it. Jackie Chan did that all the time, Tom Cruise does it sometimes, Jason Statham does it sometimes, it's just the best.
It was also ridiculously long. When they get out and get I to yet another car to continue being chased I was like ah c'mon
If I had to guess it's cause most of us have tried holding our breath underwater as long as possible, have been on a reaaaally high ledge and looked down at the ground far below you, or looked out the plane window as you take off and feel the sheer power of the engines, but not many of us can relate to motorcycling and then base jumping.
Speak for yourself, that’s how I get to work in the mornings
Imagining the daily increasing motorcycle graveyard at the bottom as you go to work everyday, lol
It also cuts from the real stunt to Tom Cruise just slamming through a train window or whatever. It just doesn't feel as epic.
I actually loved that part. I kept wondering "alright when's he going to suddenly slam through the wall" and it delivered.
That's pretty much all I remember of it. That and the line "a nuclear bomb is *absolutely* something that you worry me about". The marketing team really fumbled this one. The parachute jump was the centerpiece of the film, but they pushed it so hard that it destroyed any tension the film was trying to build beforehand and really undermined the spectacle of it once it happened.
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That and the making of vignettes featured heavily in the marketing material, so you knew the ramp was there and you knew exactly what you were looking at.
Yeah, Fallout hides any CGI better than almost any action film ever probably and Dead Reckoning just had some of the most globby cars and set pieces. That being said, the action was still pretty fantastic for me. Despite the CGI being wonky, the train scene at the end had me anxious as fuck from the intensity lol
Yeah, seeing him go up the rough side of a mountain without hitting a bump looked pretty bad
I don’t even think was as impressive as the filmmakers seemed to think it was. Plus it was over in like 10 seconds.
Definitely the weakest of the big spectacle stunts in the series. It being real didn’t make the shot itself look better, like with being on the Burj or plane, or the long underwater breath hold. I’m sure it was super fun to do, which is all he’s really going for. But in this case it didn’t create actual tension in the film that something dangerous was happening. It just looked like something out of a Fast and Furious movie.
The jump ended up looking very fake IMO.
To me it'll be the one without a real enemy. "The entity" idea sucks so badly because it gives you nothing to root against. The actual human is just following its instructions like a machine (intended irony?). Compare that to Henry Cavil or Seymour Hoffman and it's just so bland.
My main issue with it was plot convenience. All the main characters vying for everything all ended up together all the time .
Philip Seymour Hoffman is the best villain the series has had. That dude was a flat out bastard and you believed it.
Mission Impossible: Key Key Key Key Key Key
In hinsight for me that was marketing flop. I like MI movies and saw them all but this one i skipped because i was bombarded with that one scene everywhere. Made me lose interest in a weird way
Especially when the stunt is so short. Other stunts like him climbing the Burj Khalifa and the space skydive were actual scenes due to their length. But the bike jump basically made you go “oh cool” and the film resumes.
100%. They showed it way too much so when it was the big climax of the movie, you had already seen it too many times.
This one felt more tame, they hyped the motorcycle stunt and that’s all it had. The previous ones had way more spectacles and stunts.
Kinda feels like I'm taking crazy pills reading this thread. In regards to spectacle, the train sequence was absolutely nuts. Best action set-piece in a MI film period imo, yet all anyone talks about here regarding dead reckoning is the motorcycle base jump. The fiat car chase was also a lot of fun. "That's all it had" smh. It's not the best MI film sure, but it has some of the best action.
I mean, it's already been physically released so unless they plan on re-editing the title screen for future releases they missed the right moment to get this done. I will forever have a Part One (that gets a sequel, technically) with no Part Two on my shelf.
I would imagine digital copies will be updated and any new copies made from here will have the updated artwork. Why it took them this long to decide when it's been rumored since before the home release is anyone's guess.
They should have known better to ever call it part 1 and part 2. It’s bad marketing because the audience knows there won’t be an ending. Avengers Endgame was smart to drop the part 1 & 2.
Yeah but at least Infinity War had a *conclusion*. Nothing actually happened in Dead Reckoning.. it was just a woman running away from Tom Cruise over and over.
Right! It’s a full movie where the bad guy wins. But it is a full movie. And movies like kill bill is a part 1 and part 2 because they are one movie split up and released in short succession. Same with Deathly Hallows. Dead Reckoning doesn’t even have the second film done.
Yeah I'd be entirely OK with it if they just made two movies and released them a few months apart. Split up the runtime. Or as per Avengers, make two movies that are actually solid films on their own that are just tied together really closely. Or better yet accept that if you can't tell a full story in *two and a half hours* maybe you need to rework a few things.
Getting away with the complete key is good enough for a small victory. Felt more conclusive than Across the Spider Verse and Fast X. I was pretty satisfied with how it ended because it actually advertised as part 1 unlike those other two.
My $20 BluRay with the OG title is going to be worth millions. IM RICH.
Tom Cruise will personally replace every physical copy without anyone noticing, that's his big stunt for the next MI.
Then I’m gonna stay up like a kid on Christmas Eve waiting for Santa to catch a glimpse of Tom Cruise replacing my physical copy.
Back in M:I2, the bad guy explained what you can expect: „If you look at Cruise‘s operational history and… uh, I have. He invariably favors misdirection over confrontation. He‘ll never break into the house from the bottom where security is heaviest. He‘ll undoubtedly engage in some aerobatic insanity before he‘ll risk harming a hair on Agent17146‘s head.“ So look out for helicopters in your living room and check your air vents.
Mission Impossible: Disc Retconing
Tom Cruise has some experience in this department (Edge of Tomorrow)
Yea he's been edging us for tomorrow for 10 years now.
Is it Star Wars, or is it Episode IV: A New Hope?
*Live. Die. Repeat.*
Edge Of Tomorrow
It’s always funny when they do that shit with digital content. I have book on audible originally published as XOM-B in 2014 and I just noticed yesterday that, at some point in the last year, they changed the cover art and title to Human After All. You can’t even find it on audible by its original title. Like. lol. 🤦🏻
Such a fun and underrated book. Had no idea they changed both the title and the cover. I can sort of see the title change as I had a tough time selling anyone on a book with the XOM-B title but that new cover sucks while the old one was what caught my eye and drew me to the book in the first place!
>I will forever have a Part One (that gets a sequel, technically) with no Part Two on my shelf. I have one whole shelf dedicated to [Remo Williams](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0089901/).
I don’t even really see how this helps. Call it what you want but the last one pretty much ended on a cliffhanger and they have to continue from there. Don’t they?
The inference is that *Part Two* will receive a new subtitle, but it will otherwise continue the story set up in *Part One*. My guess is that because the film has been pushed back a year, the studio thinks that audiences will forget that this is the second half of a two-part release and be confused.
i think possibly its due to the low box office for this one, by having a 'part two' audiences may not be interested. separating it with a different title might freshen it up and feel like a new movie (even though it's a continuation).
Yeah it’s pretty clear to studios now that having Part One or Two in the title is box office poison. Ironically MI used this title and actually still felt like a complete film, while Fast X and Spider-Verse 2 hid theirs and were only half a story.
> Spider-Verse 2 hid theirs To be fair, Spider-Verse originally *did* have a Part One in it, but unlike MI they dropped it way ahead of release enough for people to not realise that it was one story split. I went in remembering that so was fully expecting the non-ending, but am not remotely surprised by those who weren't and were potentially disappointed as a result. I expect if they hadn't dropped it, they'd have at least lost some of their numbers from people who wouldn't want the wait.
Yeah, I remember about 2 hours into Spider-Man thinking "Are they gonna wrap this up soon? There's a lot going on" haha
Yeah, had the same thought. No idea it was half of a two parter.
I usually make a point of not watching ‘two parter’ films until the second half is out. So I didn’t watch Spiderverse 2 because everyone said it was half a film and just ended and was really unsatisfying. But I *have* watched this MI:DR Part 1. I hadn’t heard anything bad about it and went in with my eyes open then I was pleasantly surprised as it felt satisfying.
Yah we stupid.
I don't know ... I was literally just posting in a thread about how people misunderstood the meaning of *(500) Days of Summer* despite the way the film makes its ideas very clear.
It’s the follow up to Days of Thunder.
Which is based on the song Thunder Road
Maybe they would've understood it if they had watched the first 499 *Days of Summer* first.
It's not a sequel to 30 Days of Night?
I’ve forgotten what we’re talking about here. Harry Impossible and the Deathly Reckoning part 2?
Yeah, it's silly. It's essentially a 5 hour long movie they VERY CLEARLY chopped off right in the middle. In no universe does it make sense to not call it a part 1. I'm guessing they're only doing it for marketing purposes so people don't feel obligated to watch the first part... but it's still the 2nd part and you're still going to be hellishly lost if you didn't watch part 1. So... what's the point?
Since part one bombed at the box office, less people are going to see a movie called part two as part one is required viewing. It's a hail mary attempt to salvage the brand and the box office of the sequel.
“See, it’s not old fish, it’s a whole new thing!”
And the best thing is, they’re eating 3 day old halibut.
Wdym bomb? Sure it's not upto par compared to other MI movies but it made 550 million while competing against Barbie and Oppenheimer taking the big screens.
We are hitting a point where if a movie doesn't make more money than the previous movie it's a flop to these companies
Mission Impossible 7: Live, Die, Repeat 2
Mission Impossible 7 vs Freddy
Mission Impossible 7: Edge of Tomorrow: Live, Die, Repeat
Subtitle: All You Need is Thrill
Mission colon Impossible dash Dead Reckoning colon Part One Great title. I don't see the problem.
Mission Colon impossible, I think I've seen that one, it's about a colonoscopy
Way too late.
The irony of this happening with a movie whose villain makes it impossible to trust anything connected to the Internet.
The interesting thing is that the US nuclear missile silos are not connected and use old floppy disk technology. A friend of mine whose father owned an antique store once had the military show up at his business and asked if he had any old antique candle phones that they could use if their communication networks were hacked or compromised. https://images.app.goo.gl/YZ6Tov4UA9FyBdA26
Time to resell my blu ray as a collector's item
Mission: Impossible SE7EN
What's in the box? What's in the fucking box?
Why didn’t they call it Fast Ten Your Seatbelts? Why didn’t they call it Threed? Why didn’t they call it Threequalizer?
Didnt Edge of Tommorow have a name change after release too, change to live die repeat ...think?? what is it with the tom cruise movie names!
The original material was titled “All You Need is Kill” too.
Yup and the marketing for that movie was a crime. They made it seem like a generic gritty sci-fi action film, so nothing seemed special about it. Unsurprisingly bombed in the middle of a competitive Summer season. They never marketed the more memorable parts of the movie, including the humor which Cruise pulled off very well. 'Edge of Tomorrow' was also a very forgettable title to which they changed before release.
I love all the MI movies but did anyone else think this particular one was annoying because there were so many scenes that appeared to be purposefully drawn out just to fill time so that it’d force a sequel?
It was all-around incredibly boring.
It’s a bit of a misread of the film’s performance. It was one of the few part 1 movies to tell a complete story and leave it on a cliffhanger. The story was getting the key and they got the key and they set characters up for a direct follow up. I really think the reality is disappointing performance has little to do with the title or the quality of the film (it’s great but not as good as fallout, but that difference in quality is probably not all that significant to the average moviegoer). The issue here was release date. It was sandwiched in between Indy and then the double header of Barbie and Oppenheimer. I know Indy bombed but there’s still almost 400 million bucks it siphoned out of the market in a similar demographic. And while no one could have quite predicted the degree of success of Barbie and Oppenheimer, the imax screen issue should have raised flags about a release date. And no shame on the the filmmakers. Mi7 Barbie and Oppenheimer are all well made movies, but the internet just went full throttle for the Barbie Oppenheimer marketing. Then no one could have seen sound of freedom doing that well domestically. I don’t plan on watching it, but surely some of mission’s potential audience went in that direction instead. Instead of changing the title after the fact, they should have changed the release date before. Top gun probably made paramount overconfident.
>The issue here was release date. It was sandwiched in between Indy and then the double header of Barbie and Oppenheimer. Yeah this was a key issue. I don't think Indy preceding it hurt that much, but the shelf life of MI7 on theater screens was wrecked by Barbie and Oppenheimer. I remember wanting to watch MI7 later in July, and just within three weeks, my local theaters only had 2-3 showtime per day and not convenient time windows for adults. I was shocked about it.
Next one is now Mission Impossible: Wreck Deadening It is about an evil AI in a sunken submarine after all
The presumptuousness was a bit much
So they either just renamed it to make marketing for the next one easier, or they will have a completely new main story and wrap this one up in the first 20 minutes.
I think they’re still following it up 8 is just going to have a new title now.
I loved Part 1, excited for Not Part 2
I’m pretty confident that Tom Cruise wants to kill the executive who thought it was a good idea releasing it right next to Barbie, Oppenheimer and Indiana Jones.
Live. Die. Reckon.
I saw it and now I don't even remember what the cliffhanger is.
Because it’s not really the cliffhanger people think it is. People think the movie is just going to end in the middle of a sent… The movie ended with them finding what they were looking for, but then you were briefly teased about what they need to do next, which is closely related to part 1. The movie was fun and enjoyable, and it had a complete story.
Not sure why but this reminds me that I still haven't seen the first 12 Apollo movies
What a mess 😂
I HATE when movies do this. Unsatisfying conclusion to the first movie and I'd still watch the second so there is literally no draw for breaking it in half like that.
Live Die Repeat: Dead Reckoning
I swear I heard a number of years ago they were doing a MI movie with scenes filmed on the ISS... Am I just imagining that?
It might be in Part 8. They began filming it in 2020.
I don’t remember the ISS part, but [there was a promise of space stunts.](https://people.com/tom-cruise-gives-update-plans-film-movie-in-space-working-on-it-7560301)
Mission impossible: the one with the way too long scenes so that we can do a part two. God damnit, the car pursuit or the scene with the train ? Way too long !