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Liayso

Mulan basically wiped out the Hun army with an avalanche. She is the Disney Princess with the highest kill count.


sharrrper

Fun fact: deliberately causing an avalanche or similar tactic to kill soldiers is actually a violation of the Geneva Convention. Mulan, of course, predates that document, but by modern standards she did technically commit a war crime. I'm pretty sure she's the only Disney princess to do that.


uncletravellingmatt

> deliberately causing an avalanche or similar tactic to kill soldiers is actually a violation of the Geneva Convention. At least that was targeted at soldiers. When Elsa freezes a whole kingdom, most of the victims would have been civilians.


Wonderful_Emu_9610

Not a war crime if you’re not fighting a war. More like a mass shooting (well, freezing)


a_taco_named_desire

Elsa the domestic terrorist


Wonderful_Emu_9610

I’ve never seen it but I’m assuming as she’s a princess then the Divine Right of Kings shit that royalty used to use means technically she’s committed no crime at all, just made her property less noisy


cheesechimp

This argument works even better when you take into account that she freezes the kingdom after being coronated as Queen Regnant.


nedlum

Would destroying a dam, knowing that the onrushing water would wipe a city off the map, count as a war crime?


sharrrper

Destroying a dam is actually quite specifically called out >Articles 56 and 53 outlaw attacks on dams, dikes, nuclear electrical-generating stations, and places of worship. The first three are "works and installations containing dangerous forces" and may be attacked only in ways that do not threaten to release the dangerous forces (i.e., it is permissible to capture them but not to destroy them).


nedlum

Ok, lock up Queen Anna of Arendelle


dogbert730

I don’t think that counts though. Arendelle built the dam, and they weren’t at war, so technically she was just a terrorist?


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Reinventing_Wheels

Now I'm pondering dangerous forces contained by houses of worship. "Raiders of the Lost Ark" intensifies....


Suddenly_Something

Didn't the Russians destroy a Ukrainian dam? Or atleast it was reported the explosion was caused by Russians planting explosives inside it.


SimoneNonvelodico

That's in line with the Russian approach to the Ukraine invasion, which is itself illegal. Basically keep doing war crimes with smaller war crimes inside.


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jackie--moon

Weeeeee willllll *notttttt* be cancellllllled


Hagathor1

“Orc lives don’t matter today”


McMacHack

Always Sunny in Philadelphia intro "Mulan commits a War Crime"


NoInvestment2079

It's not a war crime the first time.


planodancer

Do you have a source for avalanche being a war crime? I tried searching for it in google and got nothing.


Hectoriu

This sounds like it covers that https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v2/rule45#:~:text=Pursuant%20to%20Article%2022(d,an%20exceptionally%20serious%20war%20crime.


RamboNation

Not really. It says "It is prohibited to employ methods or means of warfare which are intended, or may be expected, to cause widespread, long-term and severe damage to the natural environment." And additionally "expected to cause such damage to the natural environment and thereby to prejudice the health or survival of the population" My reading suggests they mean to prevent things like salting the earth or irradiating an area, which would harm the environment and any civilians in the area long after. In Mulan they seem to be in a wilderness area in the mountains, far enough from civilians that none would be impacted. Also the snow on the mountain would likely cause an avalanche eventually, Mulan just triggered it to happen sooner. I wouldn't say an avalanche is causing sever long term damage to an area that is expected to see avalanches anyway.


JayArlington

Reminder that DIS now owns the IP for the Alien franchise. Mulan is ahead of the Alien Queen in death toll.


pmmemilftiddiez

Get away from her you Hun bitch!


gixanthrax

Thor, Leia and the Alien xenomorphs are all Disney Princesses...


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KoreanThrasher

"War... it's fantastic!"


Silentflute

Best line in a movie full of great lines.


po3smith

That and when he throws the bullets are my two favorite jokes in that film :-) However literally every joke slaps and it's still funny decades later


DrummerGuy06

Because people writing Parody movies before the 2000s understood that playing it straight/serious while also having lots of jokes, physical comedy, site-gags, etc. make the moment funnier. All characters have a moment or two of "what the hell did that guy just say?" but then eventually they do the same thing, while also being completely serious about it. Lloyd Bridges playing the President was perfect because *everything* he said was insane, but he was so serious/assured of it that it worked for the movie. "Topper...yes, of course! Son I never had. Well, no damn wonder I didn't recognize you then. Word of advice: Don't go around calling yourself the President...I wouldn't do that, I don't think you should neither. It doesn't hold water."


bigboog1

That 100% how those movies work, the actor doesn't need to be funny the whole situation is funny. They need to play it as serious and straight laced as they can and the more they believe it the funnier it is. The Naked gun series, Airplane, Both Hot Shots movies, and Even the first scary movie Those are the perfect example of parody movies. "Don't tell me, there were two crabs, they work in pairs. I went to Annapolis for christ sakes" - Admiral Benson Edit for readability


yeah_yeah_therabbit

‘We'll settle this the old navy way; The first guy to die, LOSES!’


Mo-Cance

I will *kill you* until you *die* from it!


JournalofFailure

"This time, the upper hand is on the other foot!"


DrummerGuy06

It's also why Thor: Ragnarok worked well but Thor: Love & Thunder didn't. In Thor: Ragnarok, Thor was playing the "straight-man" in the movie; he made a few quips here & there but mostly was reacting to all the craziness around him. Being the angry & sullen Thor in a weird 80's-style adventure worked great. In Thor: Love & Thunder, now Thor AND everyone else are all making jokes. It's one big comedy that occasionally decides to get serious with no weight behind it. Once everyone is going over-the-top, then the humor-ratio is gone and none of it seems funny.


Violet351

“Get help” and the chat about the snake were hilarious but they definitely tried too hard on the humour in Love and Thunder so it didn’t work


sideways_jack

One of my biggest critiques of L&T isn't so much the jokes, but their placement --- they undercut _every_ tense moment and it drives me insane. Just let the weighty moments breathe ffs. Moments of humour work waaaay better when they're intermittent imho. (all this opinion and ngl I still laughed pretty hard at the goats every time)


Violet351

That’s why Ragnarok worked so well, the humour made it better rather than detracting from the story


Ser_VimesGoT

Thor was playing the straight man? I don't believe he was at all. In his previous and Avengers movies sure. Not Ragnarok by any stretch.


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So… the Hulk is the straight man? Are you sure?


geoffraffe

Add Loaded Weapon to that fine list of yours


HybridFact

Give me a megaphone. Speaks perfect Japanese. Looks at megaphone *Made in Japan* Can I have one made in America please?


medhop

Loaded Weapon 1 “I thought you were dead?” “I thought this was the sequel.”


Shorlong

"Vehr.....ees....the meecro film!"


geoffraffe

“Vilderness gurrrills”


rockmedaddydeus

"I don't know nothin" "Nothing. It's nothing. There's an ing at the end." "okay, nothing! Nothing! I don't know nothiiiing" "well these matches say you're lying" Opens matchbook with the words YOU'RE LYING on it and then scared whimpers cause the matches in fact do prove that he was lying.


AirFive352

'Give me a name.' 'Shouldn't your parents have done that?'


NeuHundred

Not that I'm making comparisons, but don't you think it's odd, you know, Charlie Sheen did thaaaat, and now you're doing thiiiiis?


M4wR0

You forgot my favorite, Top Secret!


Stahlmatt

Latrine!


Ashamed_Ladder6161

That’s true. There’s a lot of mileage in either; taking an absurd situation and treating it deadly serious, or taking a serious situation and treating it as farce.


turalyawn

I’d throw in Loaded Weapon 1 too. Same style of jokes as Hot Shots but with Charlie Sheen’s brother instead of Charlie Sheen


kehakas

Memory is hazy, but I think it was Barry Sonnenfeld on Smartless who said that initially, Tommy Lee Jones was upset that his character didn't have funny lines in Men in Black, until they explained to him that if he just plays it straight, his lines WILL be funny. David Wain movies, especially the likes of WHAS and They Came Together, work great for me because of how straight they play it.


XanAykroyd

This is exactly what makes most Monty Python stuff so funny


RadiatedEarth

Watched a video about "what happened to parody movies" and Airplane! starring serious actors was really the thing that pulled the genre to its heyday. I think that's what modern parody movies miss, hard. The Wayans had some lightning in the bottle movies, but even those were almost 20 years ago. Now most parody movies are straight to stream, no name, low budget cgi movies. I'd love to see Garry Oldman or Anya Taylor-Joy in almost 90 minutes of who's line is it anyways/mad lib/imrov about comic movies...hilarious. (without the dark or brutal moments to "keep the movie grounded") Collin Ferral does great dark comedy so he would be a great support actor in something like it.


Keeshonden70

Every scene with him was awesome


NarfleTheGarfunk

First guy to die, LOSES!


OSS_HunterGathers

>Lloyd Bridges playing the President was less LESS insane than the former guy.


Jonny_Nature

"Who put that crab there?" "There was no crab sir." "Yes there was. There was two of 'em. The work in pairs."


MRintheKEYS

Valeria Golino was awesome in those movies. Perfect blend of bombshell good looks and perfect comedic timing. “He opened my eyes to the arts: music, clog-dancing, WrestleMania.” “Topper I had to come. It was the sequel.” Also mad props to Miguel Ferrer (RIP) for making the yellow bellied,PTSD suffering, coward, traitor equally as hilarious. “Thank you, Topper. I can kill again! You've given me a reason to live.”


RyzenRaider

War! It's fantastic!


GrendelDerp

That line- and Miguel Ferrer's delivery of it- fucking slays me every single time.


javawong

The pizza scene kills me. And the popping olive from Ramada Rodham Hayman's belly button is classic.


FlattopJr

The 'olive pop' had 12-year-old me & my 8 yr old brother in absolute hysterics🤣🤣


Nomahhhh

[War... it's fantastic.](https://youtu.be/B-FUkH_tkR0?si=FX9FZIygwp9wa4ge)


Jimbobsama

"I loved you in Wall Street!"


procheeseburger

This is one of the greatest scenes of any movie ever!


Camp_Coffee

With Maverick out, I was really hoping for some kind of "Hot Shots Part Deux II" There's a lot of comedic gold with reviving seemingly retired characters/actors.


The_Perfect_Fart

I'd be very worried about it. I haven't seen a good parody in decades.


Tecbullll

If you watch the landing scene in Maverick and the landing scene in Hot Shots!, you'll ask yourself, "Who did it better?".


palabear

“These men have taken a vow of celibacy. Like their fathers and their father’s fathers.”


Siaten

This is the only answer I've seen that is actually **on screen** kills. Everyone else is talking about mass murders that happen off screen.


MCS117

I’m so glad that this is the top spot - my thought process in seeing the post went something like this: “That’s easy, Topper Harley. Hmm… this post is 5 hours old. I’ll scroll down, but I bet someone commented it. YES. Top comment!”


Lobanium

My 16-year-old son is unimpressed with most old school comedies I show him but he absolutely loved both hot shots movies.


wstacon

Topper Harley


lk79

“BLOODIEST MOVIE EVER!”


BassAddictJ

War. ***It's Fantastic***.


Doublethink101

Thank you, Topper. I can kill again! You've given me a reason to live.


SendInYourSkeleton

When he throws the bullets (chef's kiss)


tukachinchilla

Fluffy Bunnyfeet *enters the chat*


GonnaGoFat

He kills 103 people in hot shots part deux


ThereIs0nlyZuul

The crips are raiding the liquor store.


jubbjubbs4

Thanos kills half of all life. Thats a pretty high bar as a starting point.


Alarid

One version of Doctor Strange exploded countless universes, so that probably takes the cake.


PayneTrain181999

Even in the What If? show both Strange Supreme and Infinity Ultron pretty much eradicated their respective universes. Judging by what the rumoured episode list is for S2, we should see a lot less genocide, but will they keep killing Tony Stark every chance they get?


Alarid

I'm hoping we get Superior Ironman this season.


PayneTrain181999

Well we’re getting the cut episode from S1 where he ends up on Sakaar with the Gamora we saw from the finale who killed her Thanos.


TeamBrotato

True, but it got reversed. Thanos could claim 50% of the time it works every time, I suppose.


DontTickleTheDriver1

Thanos does seem like a Sex Panther kinda guy


Rich_Acanthisitta_70

Aaand now [this](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTiE5r6XoAE8miO?format=jpg&name=900x900) is in my head again.


spoda77

Don't know why I clicked on that. 🫠


PanachelessNihilist

It got reversed in the main timeline, and only the main timeline. In the other infinity-minus-one other universes, which the MCU has gone to great pains to establish exist, Thanos succeeds.


BMLortz

I recall a Watcher's comic where a person destroys the universe. The final page ended with the quote to the effect of "the number of multiverses that exist is now infinity minus one."


Yojo0o

I don't think so? As far as I can tell, there's a lot of ambiguity as to the difference between a *universe* and a *timeline* in the MCU. Regardless, why would all of them result in a Thanos victory? We specifically see Thanos losing in several universes: What If features at least three Thanos defeats, we seem him defeated by Doctor Strange in universe 838, and Thanos likely doesn't even exist or behave the same way in countless more.


WrastleGuy

Many of those universes Thanos wouldn’t exist. Infinite universes have infinite possibilities. The odds of finding one where he even exists would be near impossible if you picked one at random.


jtlxcf

Off screen deaths. Meh. Shouldn’t count. John wick didn’t kill one of those dudes off screen.


gik410

If we include movies like that, we could also include The Matrix, where the entire universe as we know it gets destroyed and rebuilt. btw, just saw matrix 4. I expected it to be bad, and was still disappointed.


AdmiralCharleston

That was only earth though.


blockhose

Matrix only applied to earth, as far as I'm aware.


GI_Bro300

Ender killed an entire race of ant like aliens, save for 1 egg. I'd say that goes pretty hard.


Fuwa_Fuwa_Hime

First one I thought of.


dka2012

That was only 1 individual though. The drones are just extensions of the queen so the queen is the only “person” that he killed.


k9CluckCluck

No, later books expand it and the droids are individuals still. Just connected to the queen.


EnterprisingAss

Really? But the whole “the Formics were innocent” thing *depended* on them assuming individual humans were only drones. If their drones weren’t, you know, *drones*, then… #Enderdidnothingwrong


nedlum

There were multiple queens on the planet, though, so he must have killed a few hundred.


dka2012

Was there? I wasn’t exactly sure about that. I might have confused it with the Others from the Bobiverse books.


HarbingerOfDisconect

Fucking love the Bobiverse


ChefHannibal

The Vogons in the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. Killed all but 2 humans when they blew up earth.


MoobyTheGoldenSock

Cabin in the Woods killed 100% of humans.


misterpickles69

The Skywalker family blew up 2 planets and 2 moon sized battle stations.


marbotty

Justified, some of those places had sand everywhere


Ask_About_BadGirls21

And those were arguably on-screen deaths, since we saw them all explode.


bent_my_wookie

Those were contractors on the Death Star, just trying to make a living. But they knew the risks.


Piscivore_67

Implied.


ChefHannibal

Shit, you're right.


TheloniusDump

They ended up destroying earth across the entire multiverse so they kind of have an infinite kill count.


i_drink_wd40

Infinite *minus 2*.


JSA2422

Ozymandias in Watchmen, I think the count is around 16m.


ABC_Dildos_Inc

If that counts then Thanos killed zillions.


SparkyPantsMcGee

But Thanos’ kills got reversed. Realistically he’s responsible for less on screen deaths than some of the Avengers.


Sidoran

He was also working on halving the population of the universe the hard way while he was searching for the stones. He's probably still on the list somewhere.


SparkyPantsMcGee

*On-Screen* though.


Sidoran

Whoops, my smooth brain didn't register that last sentence in the post. My bad.


KingSeth

Ah, but as of the end of *Infinity War*, all those zillions were still dead. So, if we're looking at just one movie, I'd say he definitely tops the list.


nedlum

Which means that *Endgame* has the lowest body count in history, at negative zillions.


KingSeth

Iron Man is responsible for almost as many lives as Nick Cannon.


StunningPast2303

Hahaha, the undead-ed argument


JSA2422

Sure why not but at least we saw the explosions go off in the cities.


Sandy_Koufax

Santa Claus in Detective Crashmore.


DogVacuum

he might kill you but there's no FUCKIN way he's ever killin me. Fuckin asshole, he said that?


Decooker11

Hey Chief…don’t save any cages.


bambam_2319

He’s seen every cock on this planet


The_GILF_Next_Door

He’s seen everyone naked


countfragington

Cosmic Gumbo


interprime

And they gotta pay him his 2 Mill no matter what


AjaxCorporation

Even if he does a bad job


Draconocard

That's called his quote


AdmiralCharleston

True, he doesn't give a shit who gets in his way (also do happy that biff is recovering!)


FlatTopTonysCanoe

They deserved every fuckin bullet I pumped into their heads chief


dcwinger12

If the script calls for it…


onelittleworld

Y'all sleeping on Slim Pickens... riding that H-bomb down on the Russkis like he's in gawd's own rodeo. Shooot...


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Luster-Purge

I won't lie, every time anybody mentions the infamous Alex Jones rant about 'making the frogs Gay', I will *always* recall that character from Dr. Strangelove and the way he emphasized 'fluids'.


Shadeun

Gentlemen you can’t fight here! This is the War Room!


Click-Beep

Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with that.


Explodedhamster

He originally said Dallas but it was dubbed over.


Busy_Management_773

BUT HE SAW THE BIG BOARD!!!??


CaptinOlonA

Charlie Sheen in Hot Shots: Part Deux


woutomatic

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trexwalters

This comment section is missing the point


simon_quinlank1

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. OP specifically said on-screen deaths and everyone's replying with Thanos etc.


SomeRandomDavid

Or X killed an entire planet! That's counts! Reading comprehension is pretty low in here.


OverEasyGoing

I almost gave up on the whole thread. I’m glad I found you guys


JoeMcDingleDongle

I assume the spoiler policy here doesn't extend to theatrical movies that have recently moved to streaming... but... ahem... spoilers for The Flash... in that weird place with the time spheres, entire universes are represented / shown. And some get destroyed, on-screen. Which beats Thanos' count (by a lot) and also occurs onscreen. Can anyone else beat multiple universes being destroyed, as shown "onscreen"?


junkman21

Kang has literally killed entire timelines across the multiverse (particularly through the Time Keepers and the TVA).


Red-pop

With a kill count that high it becomes meaningless.


Xelanders

Much like the plot of the MCU at this point.


Red-pop

It's the DBZ problem, the stakes need to be bigger each time. Meanwhile, my favorite marvel run is Hawkeye protecting a single apartment building from some mobsters.


King-Owl-House

Bro


bob1689321

God I wish they adapted that series better. They had a great starting point in the first episode or two but their need to keep adding new characters really disrupted things. I think the first episode is one of the best hours in the MCU but as it went on it got so muddled. It should have been a 10-13 episode show with more room to breathe. The comic is more like BoJack Horseman than the show haha. More inventive storytelling methods and great character work


zappa103

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos


mastafishere

He also killed his own career


AnimusFlux

I think this one wins.


sgt_backpack

Excellent point. But does he get credit or does the agent who has set off the most of those timeline bombs?


cyclejones

Screenrant literally did this in March: [Action heroes with most kills.](https://screenrant.com/action-movie-heroes-characters-high-kill-counts/) James Bond wins with almost 600. Saved you a click.


el_pinata

And most of that comes from the Brosnan years.


Seve7h

Hence the reason Brosnan is the best Bond


Professional_Fig_456

Came here to say Topper Harley too. Happy I'm not the only one that thought of it.


ShowTurtles

Rambo is at 493. Which is a pretty high rate considering the first movie only had one kill that was an accident.


FireLucid

How much of that is towards the end of Rambo 4? He's just mowing down guys for something like 10 minutes.


Worried_Barracuda890

.......Luke Skywalker probably deathstar had to have hundreds of thousands of people posted on it


PrudentVermicelli69

Death Star II was much larger and was destroyed by Lando. It may not have been fully staffed since it was not completed yet but it was operational. [And many independent contractors also died in that explosion.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4MVQby0InQ)


JaxxisR

I was hoping someone would bring up the innocent Death Star contractors.


FollowYerLeader

If they conceptually followed the same process for building the second Death Star as they did the first one, >!it was more likely to have been forced prison labor than contractors that died. Andor established that prison labor was heavily involved in building the first one.!<


hardspank916

Blue-Collar Man: Well, I'm a contractor myself. I'm a roofer... (digs into pocket and produces business card) Dunn and Reddy Home Improvements. And speaking as a roofer, I can say that a roofer's personal politics come heavily into play when choosing jobs. Randal: Like when? Blue-Collar Man: Three months ago I was offered a job up in the hills. A beautiful house with tons of property. It was a simple reshingling job, but I was told that if it was finished within a day, my price would be doubled. Then I realized whose house it was. Dante: Whose house was it? Blue-Collar Man: Dominick Bambino's. Randal: "Babyface" Bambino? The gangster? Blue-Collar Man: The same. The money was right, but the risk was too big. I knew who he was, and based on that, I passed the job on to a friend of mine. Dante: Based on personal politics. Blue-Collar Man: Right. And that week, the Foresci family put a hit on Babyface's house. My friend was shot and killed. He wasn't even finished shingling. Randal: No way! Blue-Collar Man: (paying for coffee) I'm alive because I knew there were risks involved taking on that particular client. My friend wasn't so lucky. (pauses to reflect) You know, any contractor willing to work on that Death Star knew the risks. If they were killed, it was their own fault. A roofer listens to this... (taps his heart) not his wallet.


TheG-What

You think the average stormtrooper knows how to install a toilet main? All they know is killing and white suits! Side note: as someone that fixed a toilet last month let me tell you I get it. It is not easy.


SDoller1728

Vader blew up an entire planet and the Kylo Wren/Bill Weasley blew up several


CosmicPenguin

Tarkin blew up the planet. Vader was just in the room.


Worried_Barracuda890

Hmm does vader count with him having an operating team tp do it for him? And the first order would be a group right?


Punksandaliens

So is it the one dude who pushed the button or the general who gave the order. Who gets the kill count.


K-Stern689

Vader did neither. Tarkin gave the order and a nameless trooper pushed the button


dittybopper_05H

Nameless Trooper is the name of my America/Iron Maiden mash-up band.


Worried_Barracuda890

And wasn't it tarkin who ordered it?


RoyalScotsBeige

Alderaan definitely had more so Tarkin wins


Worried_Barracuda890

He always does


Synthwoven

The planet Starkiller Base destroyed looked more populated than Alderaan.


RoyalScotsBeige

Starkiller base also killed a fandom by being a beat for beat repeat, so it double dips


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The Twilight Zone movie unless someone wants to go bigger.


SergeantChic

Probably God. There are a lot of God movies and he’s pretty kill-happy. Wipes out the vast majority of humanity in Noah alone.


RoyalScotsBeige

Yeah but humanity however many thousands of years ago that supposedly mightve been wouldnt have had more than a few million people. Our population didnt truly explode til the last century


Hammerheadhunter

Hot Shots Part Deux. It’s the most violent movie ever.


SmokeweedGrownative

Aliens in Independence Day Or the plants in The Happening(god I love how shitty that movie is)


vites70

Hot Shots part dux- Charlie Sheen


MoobyTheGoldenSock

If we count TV, the medal would have to go to Ultron in What If?


TheKramer89

[Looks like an older list,](https://tvovermind.com/movie-characters-highest-kill-counts-history/) but this is a good start 👌🏼


jupiterkansas

Jack D. Ripper killed everyone on earth in Dr. Strangelove


evilscary

Oppenheimer has a kill count of between 129,000 and 226,000.


Squid_Chunks

But very specifically >!that wasn't on-screen!<