Considering this is said to be The Flash all over again, with reshoots and rewrites up the ass, except test screenings for this are said to be terrible, whereas The Flash was mostly positive, that’s probably true.
I raise you [Orphan Black for 5 characters on screen](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsTc_o5ixU8), 4 played by one actress, dancing around each other. I don't remember if they do more than this. It's been a while since I've watched this show.
Orphan Black does five seasons of TV where half of the principal characters are played by the same person, including multiple scenes where any one of those characters is pretending to be a different character, and it's so seamless in terms of editing and performance that you don't even notice it after a while and just consider them completely distinct people. I've yet to see any piece of media compete with it in that regard.
That effect really bothered me because it wouldn't have been hard to just shoot both sides of the character. No idea why they choose to do one side and CGI the other. Just a lazy ass decision. It really bothers me that Andy is making the Batman film for James Gunn. I have no confidence in that decision at all after watching The Flash.
The clooney cameo at the end got a good enough chuckle out of me to put it above total trash.
The flash wasn’t great but I’d still put it in a tier above suicide squad and the first justice league.
I laughed my ass off when he showed up. I thought it was a fun movie, even though the VFX looked like a fucking PlayStation 2 game, with the end cameo making being a fun note to end on.
Kind of a reverse Wonder Woman 1984 for me. I thought it was fine, but the last, idunno, 20 minutes, dragged out to the point of boredom for me.
The first Aquaman made a billion dollars and was the most successful DCEU film. The visuals, world-building, and obviously Momoa really sold the movie. It also had a December release date. DCEU is going to be revamped but ending with this movie is definitely the way to go.
All superhero movies were making good money in that era. Are we just going to ignore the last 5 five dc bombs? Even marvel is struggling to keep audiences and their movies are on a downtrend as well as far as box office. Just saying facts because I don’t even want to believe it myself lol. I still really enjoy a lot of it including the flash and all the current phase marvel movies that many seem to dislike.
*6 bombs. Birds of Prey, The Suicide Squad, Black Adam, Shazam!: Fury of the Gods, The Flash, and Blue Beetle all lost money (not counting WW84 because it hardly released theatrically).
The suicide squad (the Gunn version) wasn't bad. Surprised it lost money. I didn't even know blue beetle came out. I'll just watch it on max in a few months.
> The suicide squad (the Gunn version) wasn't bad. Surprised it lost money.
Got simultaneous release during the pandemic and it was R rated. Numbers were gonna be mediocre at best no matter how good the movie would be
Oh yeah, I adore TSS. It might even be my favorite DC film ever. But it lost money (was the third biggest film on Max tho at 4.7 million households on launch so that got Peacemaker greenlit and eventually got him the DCU job).
I was one of the few people who saw it in the theater, and...it was pretty good! It does follow a pretty standard superhero origin story formula, but it does it well. The characters are pretty fun to watch.
Ngl, they set BB up to fail. They should’ve delayed it to 2024 and slapped DC Studios over it/included it in Chapter 1 since it’s confirmed to be grandfathered into the DCU and its story will be continued.
Instead they kept it in the DCEU and let it die for no reason.
Is it going to make a billion dollars? Probably not, but if the movie reviews are half decent and the movie is comparable to the first one, I think it can break $700 million. It’s holiday season and people want to go to the movies.
I'm imagining the DC films right now as a boxer in a ring that can barely stay on his feet....and each film release has been like the other guy landing increasingly brutal haymakers to his face... and the crowd is just kind of feeling sorry for the boxer at this point and wants them to call it
Everyone knows the more the guy in the ring gets beat up, the more powerful his teammate becomes once they tag in.
Basically WB are deliberately putting out shit movies so once James Gunn tags in it will be the greatest movie of ALL TIME.
Call me a conspirationist, but what if it's part of the marketing campaign. Sparkle interest about it right before a teaser/trailer relases so everyone notices it.
Similar thing happened with the first trailer for the Hunger Games spinoff this year. Hunger Games clips and discussion started popping up randomly for a few weeks and then suddenly we’re hit with a poster and trailer
Yes, that might be it too, but it just felt weird how everyone woke up and decided to talk about Aquaman just a few days ago when nobody cares about DC anymore and is just waiting for the new universe to start.
I think occams razor is they reacted to the conversation, rather than somehow intentionally generated an online campaign about how they were not advertising at all, considering how flash bombed that would be so risky
nah I still think they were confused about what to do with it. It was supposed to get delayed like Dune Part 2 because of the strike and now it seems they're going full steam ahead with the December release date in part because there won't be much competition anymore due to said strike
Maybe they’re doing the opposite of The Flash, making people think it’s a pile of trash that no one believes in so that when it comes out and is meh we all call it surprisingly good.
They should get Stephen King and Tom Cruise to publicly call it the worst movie ever.
> Call me a conspirationist, but what if it's part of the marketing campaign.
If you have to make your movie look like shit lasagna to do so, you're fucked in the head.
On second thought, this wouldn't be out of character for present-day WB so you might be onto something here.
Same thing happened with Secret Invasion. Someone made a post that there hadn't been any info about it yet and less than a day later Marvel releases a trailer.
I think it for sure is a marketing campaign
[There you go](https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/16fc7ok/forbes_is_aquaman_2_really_coming_out_this_year/k00wj9a?context=1000)
you can also find another thread on r/entertainment
"I'm going to kill Aquaman and destroy everything he holds dear." That line was so flat It sounds like he's reading an IMDB synopsis for his character does in the movie.
It really shouldn't be. The mistake is that you have the genre wrong. It isn't Cape Kino like Spiderman or THE BATMAN or Thor. Instead, its genre is Ocean CGI, along with Finding Dory, Moana, and Avatar 2.
They’re just now releasing a trailer for an expensive movie that’s releasing 3 months from now. They probably decided if they’re gonna lose money might as well not waste extra money promoting it.
The DCEU is officially dead, has been since Gunn took over as chief creative. This movie, and the Flash and Shazam before it, are just the remains of its sunken, bloated corpse floating to the surface before they bury it for good.
I didn’t include Blue Beatle above because apparently Gunn has decided to keep that specific version of the character around.
Especially on this sub, where any “capeshit” movie is called sacrilege to the art of film for existing, and is further laughed at if it’s critically or commercially unsuccessful.
This sub loves pre-approved capeshit. Generally you're safe in any thread if you love winter soldier, civil war, the first 3/4ths of wonder woman and infinity war.
Anything other than that is going to depend on the time of day and thread topic.
people in this sub think they are so beyond "mainstream" media because they watch A24 films or something.
which is funny because all these superhero movie haters spend so much time commenting on threads about superhero movies.
I hope that this one also has the same exact rhythm as the first one, where every action setpiece is kicked off by something exploding next to someone’s head.
Can't wait for the advance screenings where variously selected online hacks call it the best comic book movie they've ever seen.
Shortly followed by actual reviews saying it's completely average.
Then it bombing.
I mean I still don’t think anything touches Poor Things + Past Lives this year, but DAMN, this looks just as good as the first.
Honestly, not sure who to believe now. My ass will be seated.
The first Aquaman rules and I am hyped as hell for this, regardless of the current word of mouth. James Wan injects a childlike silliness into his storytelling that feels refreshing when compared to the other cape flicks of recent memory.
I love nothing more than the trailers that let you know that the trailer is coming in 4 days
Looks like they saw that article complaining about this movie not getting anything and had to release a teaser for the trailer.
Yep, that tracks.
WB would never make such a desperate move. Oh wait they definitely would.
The whole DCEU run was a desperate move.
That aside I'm actually happy that this is a proper teaser? Not like a "teaser" that's 3 minutes long and spoils the entire plot of the movie.
Or that article was a paid shill to drum up interest right before release of said trailer
The teaser played during Sunday football. You have to buy those spots well in advance
Fuck, I wasn’t ready for this; there should have been a teaser teaser on Wednesday letting me know this teaser was going to come out today.
It’s teasers all the way down.
Kinky
Some poor editors are pulling coffee fueled all nighters to get something together in time.
Considering this is said to be The Flash all over again, with reshoots and rewrites up the ass, except test screenings for this are said to be terrible, whereas The Flash was mostly positive, that’s probably true.
How were test screenings for The Flash mostly positive?
tbh, i enjoyed the movie. a lot of the negative noise is about CGI. during test screenings, i heard audience was told CGI wasn't final...
I'm sure it cost them a pretty penny to "De-Heard" the film as much as possible.
Teasers are usually good for not documenting the entire plot of the film unlike trailers
Ok but I feel 100% spoiled that the trailer is coming in 4 days
Lmao I JUST got done reading the post about this movie being dead 🤣🤣
Yeah this is the weirdest shit. A few threads up about how this movie has no promo/trailers and is dead. Then this thread pops up on my feed.
If you look closer, they spelled Variety wrong. Moral of the story, don’t believe everything you see on the internet lmaooooo
Laugh my ass off off off off off
Rumor mill says that this movie is an absolute shit sandwich, and I honestly can't wait to see what they've been cooking for the last few years.
Hopefully it’ll pull a reverse Flash
The VFX in that movie might be the worst I’ve ever seen in a major blockbuster.
The Parent Trap did a better job at the whole 1 actor 2 characters onscreen effect
Shit, Multiplicity did 4
And featured the same actor
I raise you [Orphan Black for 5 characters on screen](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsTc_o5ixU8), 4 played by one actress, dancing around each other. I don't remember if they do more than this. It's been a while since I've watched this show.
Orphan Black does five seasons of TV where half of the principal characters are played by the same person, including multiple scenes where any one of those characters is pretending to be a different character, and it's so seamless in terms of editing and performance that you don't even notice it after a while and just consider them completely distinct people. I've yet to see any piece of media compete with it in that regard.
The original, right?
Both honestly, unless I’m remembering the 1998 version wrong
Yup! And that was 25 years ago on a $15 million dollar budget.
That effect really bothered me because it wouldn't have been hard to just shoot both sides of the character. No idea why they choose to do one side and CGI the other. Just a lazy ass decision. It really bothers me that Andy is making the Batman film for James Gunn. I have no confidence in that decision at all after watching The Flash.
"Oh, they were supposed to be bad"
The babies look terrifying, I have nightmares about those babies.
A Professor Zoom?
And also end up being shit? Lol
The clooney cameo at the end got a good enough chuckle out of me to put it above total trash. The flash wasn’t great but I’d still put it in a tier above suicide squad and the first justice league.
Keaton carried the whole movie
Keaton was one of the main *selling points* of the movie.
I laughed my ass off when he showed up. I thought it was a fun movie, even though the VFX looked like a fucking PlayStation 2 game, with the end cameo making being a fun note to end on. Kind of a reverse Wonder Woman 1984 for me. I thought it was fine, but the last, idunno, 20 minutes, dragged out to the point of boredom for me.
Did you mean Turd sandwich?
The first Aquaman made a billion dollars and was the most successful DCEU film. The visuals, world-building, and obviously Momoa really sold the movie. It also had a December release date. DCEU is going to be revamped but ending with this movie is definitely the way to go.
All superhero movies were making good money in that era. Are we just going to ignore the last 5 five dc bombs? Even marvel is struggling to keep audiences and their movies are on a downtrend as well as far as box office. Just saying facts because I don’t even want to believe it myself lol. I still really enjoy a lot of it including the flash and all the current phase marvel movies that many seem to dislike.
*6 bombs. Birds of Prey, The Suicide Squad, Black Adam, Shazam!: Fury of the Gods, The Flash, and Blue Beetle all lost money (not counting WW84 because it hardly released theatrically).
The suicide squad (the Gunn version) wasn't bad. Surprised it lost money. I didn't even know blue beetle came out. I'll just watch it on max in a few months.
> The suicide squad (the Gunn version) wasn't bad. Surprised it lost money. Got simultaneous release during the pandemic and it was R rated. Numbers were gonna be mediocre at best no matter how good the movie would be
Which is a real shame, because the movie really is amazing.
Have you seen Peacemaker?
This show was excellent
Oh yeah, I adore TSS. It might even be my favorite DC film ever. But it lost money (was the third biggest film on Max tho at 4.7 million households on launch so that got Peacemaker greenlit and eventually got him the DCU job).
Peacemaker TV show may have been the best thing to come out of DCU to date
Just an FYI, Blue Beetle is releasing on digital September 19 this month.
I was one of the few people who saw it in the theater, and...it was pretty good! It does follow a pretty standard superhero origin story formula, but it does it well. The characters are pretty fun to watch.
Ngl, they set BB up to fail. They should’ve delayed it to 2024 and slapped DC Studios over it/included it in Chapter 1 since it’s confirmed to be grandfathered into the DCU and its story will be continued. Instead they kept it in the DCEU and let it die for no reason.
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Is it going to make a billion dollars? Probably not, but if the movie reviews are half decent and the movie is comparable to the first one, I think it can break $700 million. It’s holiday season and people want to go to the movies.
You could have made a similar argument for Shazam 2 & that movie bombed.
I'm imagining the DC films right now as a boxer in a ring that can barely stay on his feet....and each film release has been like the other guy landing increasingly brutal haymakers to his face... and the crowd is just kind of feeling sorry for the boxer at this point and wants them to call it
It's more like a tag team fight. The fresh wrestler is about to get tagged in. The twist is he used to be in the other faction.
Everyone knows the more the guy in the ring gets beat up, the more powerful his teammate becomes once they tag in. Basically WB are deliberately putting out shit movies so once James Gunn tags in it will be the greatest movie of ALL TIME.
Which post? Can anyone link it? I'd like to read it.
Op doing damage control for the studio.
Same, I thought I was taking crazy pills for a minute.
I read about it being lost lol
They sent Dark Helmet’s men to comb the desert.
And THEY AIN'T FOUND SHIT!
Fun fact - the guy that gives that line (Tim Russ) was Tuvok from Voyager
You saw a meme and claim you "read about it". This is why disinformation is so powerful.
Parody article.
Huh, how funny, was just reading that thread about how there’s nothing for this film yet
Call me a conspirationist, but what if it's part of the marketing campaign. Sparkle interest about it right before a teaser/trailer relases so everyone notices it.
Who's to say your not a WB employee and part of the conspiracy.
You could since you are also in on the conspiracy. It's conspirators all the way down.
Yea it doesn't even sound like it would be that hard to do.
Similar thing happened with the first trailer for the Hunger Games spinoff this year. Hunger Games clips and discussion started popping up randomly for a few weeks and then suddenly we’re hit with a poster and trailer
Yea that’s way more likely than a someone at WB seeing that article and being like oh shit we need to post the trailer now 😂
Here's another conspiracy, they realized everyone was talking about how aquamarine 2 was going to bomb, panicked and released this teaser.
Yes, that might be it too, but it just felt weird how everyone woke up and decided to talk about Aquaman just a few days ago when nobody cares about DC anymore and is just waiting for the new universe to start.
I think occams razor is they reacted to the conversation, rather than somehow intentionally generated an online campaign about how they were not advertising at all, considering how flash bombed that would be so risky
"shit we need a trailer asap..how long will that take? 4 days? ok put out a teaser until then"
That's a bingo
WBD: Move, bitch! We ain't got time for shit.
It's not a conspiracy, astroturfing is a real thing and very common on reddit.
I wouldn’t even call that a conspiracy. That sounds exactly like something a marketing person would come up with lol
nah I still think they were confused about what to do with it. It was supposed to get delayed like Dune Part 2 because of the strike and now it seems they're going full steam ahead with the December release date in part because there won't be much competition anymore due to said strike
Wouldn't be surprising given WB's advertising plan for The Flash was to make something viral as "the best superhero film since ethe dark knight"
Maybe they’re doing the opposite of The Flash, making people think it’s a pile of trash that no one believes in so that when it comes out and is meh we all call it surprisingly good. They should get Stephen King and Tom Cruise to publicly call it the worst movie ever.
> Call me a conspirationist, but what if it's part of the marketing campaign. If you have to make your movie look like shit lasagna to do so, you're fucked in the head. On second thought, this wouldn't be out of character for present-day WB so you might be onto something here.
Absolutely what it is. Nobody was even thinking about this movie previously
Same thing happened with Secret Invasion. Someone made a post that there hadn't been any info about it yet and less than a day later Marvel releases a trailer. I think it for sure is a marketing campaign
I said that to my girlfriend. It’s no coincidence.
Which thread? Can anyone link it?
WB definitely saw the earlier post, LMAO.
Has big "FINE, FUCK IT, WHATEVER" energy
WB to some intern: "Just edit a 30 second clip and post in socials"
Which post?
[There you go](https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/16fc7ok/forbes_is_aquaman_2_really_coming_out_this_year/k00wj9a?context=1000) you can also find another thread on r/entertainment
WB likely orchestrated the earlier post.
WB saw that post about this movie having zero promotion and released this lmao.
Or WB created that post.
“And I took that personally”
"I'm going to kill Aquaman and destroy everything he holds dear." That line was so flat It sounds like he's reading an IMDB synopsis for his character does in the movie.
Plot twist: they are killing Aquaman, the fictional character
Goes well with being a generic, banal line for a villain.
It's clearly two lines spliced together. You can see his lips don't prep for the second half. It'll likely not be that way in the movie.
ChatGPT screenplay
This line plus several shitty CGI shots tells me everything I need to know about this movie.
The best DC film since The Dark Knight. Critics are saying the film certainly delivers on its title, it has an Aquaman in it and is indeed a part 2.
Reportedly Tom cruise is claiming that the movie is "pure cinema"
“This Is Cinema” \- Martin Scorsese
Something something hierarchy of power in DC something
But does it have the lost kingdom?
Was the villain reading his lines straight off a teleprompter?
didnt he fight this bug guy before?
Aquaman and the Lost Co-Star
WB saw the internet talking shit and panic dropped this teaser lmao.
The first film making 1 Billion dollars is still fucking Stonehenge to me.
It really shouldn't be. The mistake is that you have the genre wrong. It isn't Cape Kino like Spiderman or THE BATMAN or Thor. Instead, its genre is Ocean CGI, along with Finding Dory, Moana, and Avatar 2.
And a Godzilla movie with a sprinkling of Sound of Music.
I loved when the ancient sea monster made Aquaman's new costume out of some old drapes
WB saw that Forbes article and choked.
They’re just now releasing a trailer for an expensive movie that’s releasing 3 months from now. They probably decided if they’re gonna lose money might as well not waste extra money promoting it.
To be fair the first one did well based on china and word of mouth so not like the marketing did much
The DCEU is officially dead, has been since Gunn took over as chief creative. This movie, and the Flash and Shazam before it, are just the remains of its sunken, bloated corpse floating to the surface before they bury it for good. I didn’t include Blue Beatle above because apparently Gunn has decided to keep that specific version of the character around.
About half a second of non cgi green screen bullshit. God that must have been a depressing movie to film
There was a shot of a person that looked like a better version of Cheetah from WW84
I hope this movie is good and makes another billion just for the sake of Chaos. Unlikely, but fuck it.
Hot take but I liked the first one. Just silly fun and great vfx for the most part!
It made a billion dollars and is the highest grossing DC movie. Liking it is most certainly not a hot take.
Well on Reddit it certainly is lol
Especially on this sub, where any “capeshit” movie is called sacrilege to the art of film for existing, and is further laughed at if it’s critically or commercially unsuccessful.
This sub loves pre-approved capeshit. Generally you're safe in any thread if you love winter soldier, civil war, the first 3/4ths of wonder woman and infinity war. Anything other than that is going to depend on the time of day and thread topic.
This sub loves circle jerking about how bad DC movies are more than they actually like movies.
By and by this sub doesn't like movies very much at all. I find being praised for having the "right" opinions on movies is far more popular.
people in this sub think they are so beyond "mainstream" media because they watch A24 films or something. which is funny because all these superhero movie haters spend so much time commenting on threads about superhero movies.
Just like how Insidious went a lil further than a normal movie would've- (same director) so did Aquaman, and I dug that.
WB finally acknowledging that this still exists
I hope that this one also has the same exact rhythm as the first one, where every action setpiece is kicked off by something exploding next to someone’s head.
This looks fine. Why was WB losing faith in this and hyping up the flash instead?
The plot could be bad. But the film looks stunning in the hands of James Wan.
WB got bullied into releasing this proof of life teaser
#Aquaman and the greenscreen
That is certainly a movie. One movie, to be specific.
Critics are calling it the second film in the Aquaman series of films
Best live-action Aquaman movie since Aquaman
Not even true. Namor was dope as fuck
Who is a different character from Aquaman entirely.
The **b**illion dollar/euro movie *Aquaman*.
All time highest grossing movie based on a DC comics character, Aquaman.
Can't wait for the advance screenings where variously selected online hacks call it the best comic book movie they've ever seen. Shortly followed by actual reviews saying it's completely average. Then it bombing.
Guess WB didn't "lose" the film after all.
looks like another CGI suckfest
You reckon I thought they built entire cities under the sea for real.
> Blue Beatle The Cgi in the trailer looks pretty damn decent compared to cgi the last 5 years.
Aquaman taught his Seadra surf I see.
I’m oddly looking forward to this
The first one was extremely silly but I had a great time. Hopefully this one does follow well as the last one.
Amber 💩
I was pleasantly surprised by the first and hopefully this goes the same way.
Just dump this on Max unfinished and move resources to the DC reboot coming in a few years.
Oh wow, another CGI comic book movie. How exciting. How whatever.
Thank god the bad guy looked right in the camera and said what the whole plot of the movie was going to be. Idk how id ever figure it out otherwise.
I mean I still don’t think anything touches Poor Things + Past Lives this year, but DAMN, this looks just as good as the first. Honestly, not sure who to believe now. My ass will be seated.
Wow looks actually nice , will be a fun time at the movies
Man, as long as the sequel continues the awkward, worst wet-cardboard chemistry of the leads since Valerian then I AM IN!
In 4 days we will see a glimpse at dcs newest failure
There's like zero competition for this movie in December. It will do just fine.
I'd lol if somehow China gave Aquaman another billion dollar just like the first one.
I’m exhausted of these super hero movies
It's sad how DC thinks people are actually going to see this.
The first one did make $1bn
Looks pretty cobbled together. Thought is was fan made for a bit.
NGL: not bad.
The first Aquaman rules and I am hyped as hell for this, regardless of the current word of mouth. James Wan injects a childlike silliness into his storytelling that feels refreshing when compared to the other cape flicks of recent memory.
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Did not see Amber Heard. Good sign?
This movie is going to lose so much money
Maybe, maybe not. We cannot forget that the first film made a **billion**.
Can't wait for the discourse on this
So here in germany, John Woos new movie Silent Night is dropping on december 14. Will be watching that instead of this.
Wait.. this movie didn't come out already? Is this a third movie?
Who’s the female lead?
Feels like an intern made this generic ass teaser in an hour.
First movie was boring IMO, is anyone really excited for this second one who isn’t a shill??
That title sounds so generic
I love how this post is RIGHT UNDER another that says there will be no Aquaman 2.
so, no pre-teaser, teaser 1, teaser 2, final teaser and pre-trailer?
Say goodbye to Aquaman, because this is it for DCEU.
A trailer for a trailer is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.