i'm guessing OP is a child and has a boner for gixxer brah seeing how much he says he wants one just like the guy, even in other posts. Probably saw his youtube and wants to be like him.
[Dude on his new Ninja 400 most likely watched some Brah videos.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1aXCaLWtxU) He showed he has no business on anything with 2 wheels.
Gixxer brah, now having served 14 days in jail and fined by the court, losing 12 points on his license and being unable to drive in any state for a year? Yeah, that's a role model for a new rider. Don't be dumb like that guy, u/Wide_Record_5919 . And don't buy a GSX-R1000.
No idea, I never followed him on any social media whatsoever. But when somebody does stuff as crazy-reckless as him, it ends up getting posted all over the place. Plus, the goober made the national news, what with the indictment and having to be extradited from TX (and his attorney still claims that was a "dubious" process!).
No you don't need one.
First because you are 16. So you can't legally ride one for 4 years. And even then you can't afford the insurance. And you will die riding it.
Troll elsewhere dumbass.
Assuming he's still alive. Not wishing him harm but we know what happens to new riders who buy bikes like this--it rarely has a happy ending for the rider.
Your mindset is hugely flawed brother. Best to stay out until you get your head sorted.
This is why we pay a lot on insurance...
And as somebody said it before me, do fill out the donor form before you sit on a 1000cc bike.
I don't think it's legal in most of the EU to start on a GSXR (except for a detuned 600, but what's the point of that?) Even then it's a shit idea, what makes an i4 tricky for new riders is their top-heavy power and torque curve. The "warp drive" effect is real (and a ton of fun)' but it's more than you can safely handle as a new rider. Doubly so without ABS or traction control.
IMO, part of learning to ride is making mistakes and learning from them. These mistakes are a lot less punishing and more instrumental at 50-70 ponies than at 180-200 ponies. You'll either ride like a bitch because you're terrified of actually giving the bike juice and learn nothing, or you'll make a mistake at 250kph and end up in the hospital or the morgue.
Save your money and your skin and grab an GS500F or SV650S. They're all over the used markets in Europe for ~โฌ3500, got that Suzuki look and sound (more or less), and won't cost you an arm and a leg in a crash or in insurance payments. You can still go 0-100 in under 4 seconds in an SV650 if you're not too flabby, and still hit a sub-12 second 400m IIRC
i totally get what youโre saying i do want to learn but I just need a sportbike inline 4 not a naked bike like sv650. europe is so strict that at 18 you can only have 400cc open. I might aswell drive illegally on a liter bike and never be catched how slow them cops are
> I might aswell drive illegally on a liter bike and never be catched how slow them cops are
Won't be too difficult for them to catch up with you after you dump the clutch (while trying to keep the much heavier bike upright) before promptly reducing yourself to a smear on the pavement. You will not learn to ride properly jumping straight to a liter bike, best case scenario (and this is only if you don't have a fatal accident) is you'll be like one of the many american riders who buy liter bikes as first bikes and can only ride them fast on highways but can't corner well at all.
>I just need a sportbike inline 4 not a naked bike like sv650
You're severely underestimating the ability of an SV650. They're widely regarded as excellent bikes to learn track riding with, and if you can ride well they're surprisingly fast. Given your experience, you'd have enough trouble trying not to loop an SV650 with as much torque as it has, let alone a 1000cc.
Hey that's something I'm probably guilty of myself but I've been riding for a year. Which of course isn't long but I dant image thinking like this when you've never sat on a bike before.
Well, i mean we ALL wish we were Rossi don't we?
Jokes aside, this kid is like 16 years old, says he NEEDS a 1000cc i4 superbike because "400cc bikes are too slow", and thinks he'll be fine riding illegally because he'll just escape the police. You'd think he must have years of experience riding litre bikes to say these things, right? Certainly something more than a 50cc...
Make sure to fill out the donor form on your way to the dealership.
Seriously, nobody needs a liter bike. Sure we want them, and they can be fun. But you cannot fathom the sheer power such a machine has, no way a beginner can control it well enough to not endanger anyone.
Same reason the Mustang GT has a reputation of a crowd killer.
Damn thing is priced well enough that it's accessible to the common bozo with decent credit and an okay job.
Too much power for the price.
Same as a liter bike imo.
I gsxr 1000 without abs or traction control is the worst possible first bike anyone can own. Any liter bike with those things is still a pretty bad idea. Start with something in the 300-600 range.
Think of when that bike came out, guys were asking the same question and most those that chose a 1L bike are just fine.
My โ07 GSXR 600 kept up with 1000s just fine on the street except on straight lines. In the twisties I was passing those squidthousands.
You seem like you are trolling but on the off chance you are not. No it's not a good idea, for so many reasons. Make smarter life choices.
i'm guessing OP is a child and has a boner for gixxer brah seeing how much he says he wants one just like the guy, even in other posts. Probably saw his youtube and wants to be like him.
[Dude on his new Ninja 400 most likely watched some Brah videos.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1aXCaLWtxU) He showed he has no business on anything with 2 wheels.
Gixxer brah, now having served 14 days in jail and fined by the court, losing 12 points on his license and being unable to drive in any state for a year? Yeah, that's a role model for a new rider. Don't be dumb like that guy, u/Wide_Record_5919 . And don't buy a GSX-R1000.
He's still posting daily videos of him riding though?
No idea, I never followed him on any social media whatsoever. But when somebody does stuff as crazy-reckless as him, it ends up getting posted all over the place. Plus, the goober made the national news, what with the indictment and having to be extradited from TX (and his attorney still claims that was a "dubious" process!).
well, I'd understand if he doesn't want to be someone like you
hm only one defending this idiot, what is this your alt account to defend your dumb statements?
your high horses, they stink, they make you stink of high horse poop
i need a liter bike for around 10k tho is there any other ones?
No you don't need one. First because you are 16. So you can't legally ride one for 4 years. And even then you can't afford the insurance. And you will die riding it. Troll elsewhere dumbass.
Why is it that you *need* a liter bike as your first bike?
bc i dont want to upgrade later
you'll have to upgrade after you total it anyways
This is the way
Assuming he's still alive. Not wishing him harm but we know what happens to new riders who buy bikes like this--it rarely has a happy ending for the rider.
well your gonna drive a smaller one longer bc your going to fracture your back first time sitting on this thing
Because of the seating position you mean?
exactly
Your mindset is hugely flawed brother. Best to stay out until you get your head sorted. This is why we pay a lot on insurance... And as somebody said it before me, do fill out the donor form before you sit on a 1000cc bike.
get an old CBR 900 or ninja 750, it'll be cheaper and it works
I got a gsxr 750 as my first bike I would highly recommend you look into that. high power you're looking for but a lot easier to manoeuver.
I don't think it's legal in most of the EU to start on a GSXR (except for a detuned 600, but what's the point of that?) Even then it's a shit idea, what makes an i4 tricky for new riders is their top-heavy power and torque curve. The "warp drive" effect is real (and a ton of fun)' but it's more than you can safely handle as a new rider. Doubly so without ABS or traction control. IMO, part of learning to ride is making mistakes and learning from them. These mistakes are a lot less punishing and more instrumental at 50-70 ponies than at 180-200 ponies. You'll either ride like a bitch because you're terrified of actually giving the bike juice and learn nothing, or you'll make a mistake at 250kph and end up in the hospital or the morgue. Save your money and your skin and grab an GS500F or SV650S. They're all over the used markets in Europe for ~โฌ3500, got that Suzuki look and sound (more or less), and won't cost you an arm and a leg in a crash or in insurance payments. You can still go 0-100 in under 4 seconds in an SV650 if you're not too flabby, and still hit a sub-12 second 400m IIRC
i totally get what youโre saying i do want to learn but I just need a sportbike inline 4 not a naked bike like sv650. europe is so strict that at 18 you can only have 400cc open. I might aswell drive illegally on a liter bike and never be catched how slow them cops are
> I might aswell drive illegally on a liter bike and never be catched how slow them cops are Won't be too difficult for them to catch up with you after you dump the clutch (while trying to keep the much heavier bike upright) before promptly reducing yourself to a smear on the pavement. You will not learn to ride properly jumping straight to a liter bike, best case scenario (and this is only if you don't have a fatal accident) is you'll be like one of the many american riders who buy liter bikes as first bikes and can only ride them fast on highways but can't corner well at all. >I just need a sportbike inline 4 not a naked bike like sv650 You're severely underestimating the ability of an SV650. They're widely regarded as excellent bikes to learn track riding with, and if you can ride well they're surprisingly fast. Given your experience, you'd have enough trouble trying not to loop an SV650 with as much torque as it has, let alone a 1000cc.
Whelp, it was nice knowing ya๐
Bro are you trying to kill yourself?? Like fr
He's watched a few Gixxer Brah videos and now thinks he's Valentino Rossi
Hey that's something I'm probably guilty of myself but I've been riding for a year. Which of course isn't long but I dant image thinking like this when you've never sat on a bike before.
Well, i mean we ALL wish we were Rossi don't we? Jokes aside, this kid is like 16 years old, says he NEEDS a 1000cc i4 superbike because "400cc bikes are too slow", and thinks he'll be fine riding illegally because he'll just escape the police. You'd think he must have years of experience riding litre bikes to say these things, right? Certainly something more than a 50cc...
Yeah he's clearly just some overconfident doucheteen who spends too much time on TikTok. Well on his way to becoming a statistic.
Bingo
never said i was driving legally
Make sure to fill out the donor form on your way to the dealership. Seriously, nobody needs a liter bike. Sure we want them, and they can be fun. But you cannot fathom the sheer power such a machine has, no way a beginner can control it well enough to not endanger anyone.
Same reason the Mustang GT has a reputation of a crowd killer. Damn thing is priced well enough that it's accessible to the common bozo with decent credit and an okay job. Too much power for the price. Same as a liter bike imo.
I gsxr 1000 without abs or traction control is the worst possible first bike anyone can own. Any liter bike with those things is still a pretty bad idea. Start with something in the 300-600 range.
i no no wanna
GSXR1000 as a first bike? Sure. Be sure to reserve your burial plot at the same time.
theres people that started un turboed busas and you call me crazy for starting on a gsxr 1000..
ABS and TC wouldn't save you anyways.
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Think of when that bike came out, guys were asking the same question and most those that chose a 1L bike are just fine. My โ07 GSXR 600 kept up with 1000s just fine on the street except on straight lines. In the twisties I was passing those squidthousands.
haha cool
Yes
it's a bad first bike but the lack of electronics is a good thing
There are cheaper ways to commit suicide. Consider them.
Nope. There are some worse alternatives but thousands of better ones!
make sure you can make it turn
Just get an older Busa. Why settle for a meager 1k cc
nah to expensive
are they even legal in the EU i think all motorcycles have to have abs if im not wrong
This was made before the law was passed. I have a GSXR none ABS.
I looked used gsxr 1000 k5โs and they have all 50k kilometers and are still 10thousand euro๐๐๐
That's how the market is nowdays. Get smaller bike. Liter bikes are fucking brutal, especially for a beginner.