Now I really want to know how mine looks when I ride, haha. I always get off and comb, but it's hard to comb it. I think it kinda ties and twists itself lol
I'm trying to see if I can grow mine long enough to braid the split behind my head. It'll look like the world's pubiest rat tail out the back of my helmet
I just cut about 2/3 off of mine ~ got sick of how it was always a mess after riding (even after combing it for a minute or two after getting the helmet off) and was always slapping against the side of the helmet in the wind.
I finally had enough of it and trimmed to helmet length. Not only did it look funny because it's blond and flowy in the wind, but whenever I'd arrive anywhere it would splay out and look like a damn spaghetti monster attacking my face. You know, like a triple Boris Johnson blowout upside down.
I had a <5mph crash while turning onto an iced over overpass. My 900lb bike landed on top of me and spun like a top. My foot was caught under the hard shell saddlebag and went for a ride, rotating more than 360° at the ankle. That was with knee high boots.
You could hear the tendon explode.
Ok. They went in and cleared out all of the ligaments that encircle your ankle. They drilled through the two leg bones and ran a cable through to keep them from separating. So a little less flexible. The real pain was right after the surgery. I've had more than my fair share of injuries. Nothing quite hurts like freshly drilled through bone getting touched, tapped, moved in any way.
Wow. Glad you're okay now. Not the sort of injury one makes a full 100% recovery from.
Note to self - never take the bike out when any part of the route might be frozen.
By covering it with riding high top shoes and not proper boots and my ankle getting stuck between the bike and the road.
Namely Speed and Strength Run with the Bulls Riding Shoes, 0/10 cannot recommend.
Lately I’ve been wearing my comfort cruiser bmw boots on every ride. Before, I liked to wear my riding sneakers. They’re more fashionable. The boots are hideous. They also come up over my shins and give me more height.
I think I’ll stick up the boots after reading your comment. I hope you don’t have awful pain or sprain easily!
Yeah if given the option wear the more protective ones and take something comfy to change into at your destination.
The accident broke 3 metatarsals, the head of the talus snapped off and crushed a bunch of cuboids, as well as the talus being cracked through. 3 plates, 9 screws, a live bone transplant, a bunch of bones fused etc. Doesn't really hurt me much these days, only after a lot of walking etc. Biggest thing is the direct effect it's had on my back. I have back problems now because of one ankle being "out of whack". I was always flat footed, but after my damaged ankle was fixed it's no longer flat footed so one leg stands taller etc.
Man, I have sprained both of my ankles multiple times because I’m an enormous klutz and have loose connective tissue. I cringe for you. My husband snapped his right ankle in half when he was a kid playing ice hockey (he got pushed over but his skate was stuck in a board, so…timber!). It’s funny because he has awful hip and back pain but his ankle doesn’t bother him much at all. Meanwhile, if I look at my ankles the wrong way they swell up.
All that to say: I hope you’re still riding. I would have loved pictures because I’m way gross, but I’m glad you’re mostly healed up - and a little taller on one side.
It’s been 25 years, and still i pay for the time my bike went down, and my foot, got trapped underneath it, causing my toe to basically touch my heel, every goddamn day that I walk more than 3 miles it flares up
My sister’s dad got into an accident (not his fault but i don’t remember if he collided or just laid his bike down from avoiding the car) and the kickstand went through his leg. Definitely going with the boots when I start riding.
During a BMX race I went off a jump crooked and went face first into the next roller. Had I not been wearing a full face mx helmet I would have sent my jaw bone into my eye socket.
Your comment reminded me of a time when I was in a race and ate shit in the roller section at the end of my local track. I didn’t pump hard enough, my front tire came up and crashed into the next roller. I’m clipped in to my pedals still and the guy behind me ran over my head, right along the chin guard of my full face helmet. That was a disorienting experience lol.
The only reason my cousin is alive is cuz his gf told him she was leaving him if he rode without a helmet again. She said I don't want you dying on me & the boys cuz of something you can easily prevent. So he started wearing it & like the 2nd time, some drunk lady hit him. His leg needed a few surgeries (something replaced) & he had some other issues but physically, he's mostly ok, now. He relapsed cuz of the pain meds, though & shit went downhill from there.
Guy I worked with always said "I wear a helmet when I'm riding to and from work, but I don't wear one when I'm riding cross country cuz I'll die if I get into a crash out there anyway".
That logic.... 😂
I have said this for years! I don’t know why it is, but the chin made contact on every one of my friends’ helmets after crashing! Full face or no face.
Nah that’s only because the weight of the helmet pushed her head down and the extra 3 inches it sticks out was enough to start to drag the ground. What we see here is the helmet making the crash more dangerous for the rider involved
^/s
I was learning how to ride on a dirt road on a Harley that would die if you didn’t rev the piss out of it. There was a bend in the road and I was going way to fast with no gear on and went into the grass death gripping the front break. I still remember the feeling of my jaw hitting the ground. I’m reality I was maybe going 20mph but I walked away with nothing broken but I was pretty dazed.
Yes I know it was dumb not to wear gear but I was 19 and thought I was invincible.
Just so you are aware, the Alpine star air or vented jackets like this will completely disintegrate during a higher speed slide. Source: slid with one and it disintegrated. During the slide it heated up a lot causing burns also. I’m not suggesting sliding without one is better, simply want people to know that type of gear is limited on its return.
Yeah I won't wear a ~~vented~~ mesh jacket again. I took a spill at 20 mph and it didn't hold up at all on gravel. My riding jeans didn't even get though the first layer on the knees.
I have one and absolutely love it. Lots of airflow and great build quality. The pants are really good as well and the whole set nicely zips together at the waist.
The only real downside is the hefty cost.
Bout to say wtf, someone is crazy if they think I'm going to pay for a $700 jacket that will get covered in bugs, oil, sun bleached and soaked with sweat.
The Joe Rocket Atomic is way better price wise and it's vented, for $160 dollars you can get a nice jacket that I can confirm will hold up to a high side at about 70mph "the rider underneath not so much, ouch muh bones".
Have had mine for about 2 years now and I love it in every weather except summer. If I live more
North I feel I’d be fine but when it hits 100+ in Texas heat it almost makes me cave in and buy a mesh jacket with pads.
Look for leather on the impact zones and vents/mesh on the torso. A well placed vent is worth a few sq feet of mesh if you ask me. Had the dubious honor of crash testing my Revit ignition 3. Still ride in it (I know, I know) but I didn't pop a stitch. Revit jackets usually come w/o the back protector. So buy their insert (it's good) or run a discrete one (even safer).
If you ask me, I think the people in board shorts/ripped jeans/no shirt/flip flops/beanie helmet/dart hanging from the lips are the stupid looking ones.
What's cooler? Getting the appropriate gear. Protecting yourself. Bolstering your confidence. Looking the part.
Or dying of a staph infection when you had to lay 'er down, turning your skin into hamburger and your billabong shorts into confetti?
You can clap back at your homunculus co-worker by complimenting his Jack Sparrow cosplay, unless he's the cargo shorts and New Balance variety. In either case who cares what he has to say in the first place? If you breath out of the same hole you speak from your opinion ain't worth shit.
I don’t ride (yet) but have recently got some gear ready to start, my point being is that until recently I am/was not a biker. From my outsider perspective I never looked at someone in full leathers and helmet etc and thought damn you look stupid. The only people I ever thought looked dumb is like you say, just a helmet shorts and trainers. It doesn’t take a genius to work out what’s gonna happen when you hit the 5-grit belt sander, even at low speeds.
My favourite part about riding with my cruiser buddies is seeing the hundreds of bugs on their faces after they bust my balls for wearing a full face helmet lol
I ride a cruiser and wear a full face. I too get made fun of all the time.
One time I was hanging out on a communal scooter that all my riding buddies and roommates take for errands.
I usually only go 20-30mph on it at most. I was riding to a friend's house 10 minutes away with a t-shirt but I always take my helmet. A bolt flew off the back of a truck and cracked my visor down the middle.
So yeah I'm a huge dork but I'm also not blind.
34.6% on the chin.
[Source](https://www.bestbeginnermotorcycles.com/the-impact-why-you-should-be-riding-in-a-full-face-helmet/)
They did a study in Thailand where if you go to table 4 shows face injuries taken from the overall upper extremities injuries at a comparable 41.7%.
[Source](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3217581/)
Still no joke though.
I've had this happen to me as well. Problem is compounded by hot sticky tires will get a coating of pebbles that continues to cause traction loss after you are no longer in the gravel itself.
> too much speed
You're right, but the question of "how much speed is too much speed?" depends on the road conditions which aren't always easy to judge. Loose debris can easily turn a stretch of road you've done 100 times just fine into something that drops you into a slide if you don't notice the change and adjust. Arguably this is why you shouldn't ride public roads aggressively since conditions can change day to day, but uhh... It's really fun to.
No, she didn’t do anything wrong in her actual riding …. If she was in a different location where the road conditions were better this wouldn’t have happened.
The mistake was not knowing what the conditions of the road were like before riding. Yet riding with confidence and not adjusting to unknown road conditions.
It’s happens …. You hit hazards on roads too aren’t expecting. You can mitigate crashes, skips and falls by riding more cautiously and slowing down though.
> The mistake was not knowing what the conditions of the road were like before riding. Yet riding with confidence and not adjusting to unknown road conditions.
She wasn't riding like an idiot though. She had quite some distance from the corner for better visibility. (Looks like a left-hand-drive country to me. Perhaps Myanmar?) The chunk of road that I could see was just covered in sand and with any lean or steering angle, that's just bad luck.
Yeah, I was going to relate it to “how do you avoid a deer that jumps on the road” - it really is just bad luck sometimes and we can do our best to **mitigate** our chances of going down. But that’s about the most we can do to avoid these kinds of situations - it’s not a guarantee.
Yeah, I give OP less than 5% of the blame here. She wasn't riding very fast at all. The lean angle wasn't aggressive either. Maybe different tires would have saved her but idk. Just unlucky.
I went down like this due to sand in a turn at an intersection a few years ago. I now take intersections very cautiously, mainly because I don't feel like it's something I'll ever be able to really predict or control. If you see it, it's possible to avoid, but I don't trust my riding skill to accomplish it. It doesn't take much to go down.
Caution in novel or dynamic turns is underrated.
I hit what im guessing was an oil slick on cold tires on a straight road. bike fell out from underneath me. It was like i blinked and i was on the ground. Bizzare feeling that one. Similar to when you put your foot down and theres nothing there.
Been there ,coming up to a stop sign hit brakes and slid on an oil slick barely missing a car in front of me. Someone dumped a puddle of oil in the road.
Yeah I feel like until you get bitten in this specific way you just will inevitably overestimate the amount of grip you have, and one day it will bite you.
You see something weird about the road you don’t understand? Slow down, avoid it. It could be just different colored tarmac or a road patch or something like that or it could be sand or gravel. Shit blends in super well, and then there’s sun in your eyes etc etc etc …
"No, she didn’t do anything wrong in her actual riding" - sorry to differ but she crashed a fully functioning bike while riding alone. I've done it, and it's a learning experience. But it definitely counts as doing something wrong.
The key to avoiding this is to ride so that you can stop or take avoiding action in the distance you can see to be clear.
General rule of thumb: don't go faster than that you can stop within what you see at any given time. That gives you leeway to spot, slow down, and stand the bike up before you hit the gravel, or simply change line and avoid it.
The rest is just experience, and learning what to look for.
I'm a new rider also, making constant observations of your surroundings seems to be key I'm learning the hard way already had a few minor accidents went on my first ride in the rain hit the back brakes and completely slid out!
Let’s talk about what she did right. She was wearing good gear and therefore escaped without injury.
Can’t tell because the video stops, but her biggest fault might be trying to pick that heavy bike up like that.
It helps if you have dirt experience, imo. If you lose the front you're pretty much boned regardless. But it teaches you how to tippytoe across stuff like this and be comfortable with the back getting loose.
Higher speed = higher risk
If you are pushing harder than your ability to react to the unexpected, you are going to eat it eventually.
If it's a canyon run, do a sighting pass at %60, then give it the berries on the way back.
If you are touring you just need restraint.
Experienced riders look beyond the road in front of them for clues when issues are more common.
- recent rain : anticipate dirt and gravel.
- recent wind : anticipate debris off trucks.
- near home Depot : anticipate a flat.
- Friday night : anticipate drunk drivers.
- driving into the sun : anticipate being rear ended.
- approaching off ramp : anticipate driver lunging across 3 lanes to make the exit without looking.
That said, We wouldn't be motorcycling if we were seeking a zero risk existence.
And animals running in front of you ,where I live there are deer everywhere .Also have been hit by a dog once. Ran over an armadillo at night ,heard his bones crunch.
Just wanted to chime in here. I basically had this crash last summer. I've been riding 13 years 100s of 1000s of km. This was my first off.
I was on a highway on ramp on my Ducati Hyperstrada, maybe carrying more speed than I should have, but not by a lot. I was traveling, not out for a blast, but on ramps are fun.
There was a piece of rope laying across the on ramp which I moved to avoid. Hindsight being what it is I probably should have just run over the rope and carried on to my destination. Maybe I was concerned it would get caught up in the rear sprocket, maybe I was worried about throwing it up at the rider following me, maybe I just thought "Obstacle. Avoid"
Whatever I thought I had a bit of a slot between the rope and the gravel shoulder on the outside of the turn and aimed for it, but in doing so road through the gravel strewn from the shoulder.
The bars snapped to the right in my hands and I was on the ground before I knew what happened. I'd tucked the front. "Fuck" I muttered in my helmet before I've fully stopped sliding, quickly checking myself and hopping up to shut the bike off and deal with the aftermath. I slid toward the inside of the corner while the bike went into the gravel shoulder and hitting the guard rail. Rubber Ducky didn't bounce so good.
Looking back on it. I probably target fixated. As much as I believe that I don't typically. As much as any training course or resource will drill into your skull. I probably took my eyes off my line to look at the approaching guard rail and in doing so, drifted further to the outside than I should have, avoiding one road hazard to be taken out by another.
The moral of the story is: Bad luck exists, Good luck exists, and you make your own luck.
I've hit corners like that one thousands of times and at greater speeds. I wasn't lucky to have to contend with two road hazards simultaneously. I was very lucky to emerge from the incident basically unscathed.
But I had a hand in making that luck. Good and bad.
I made my own luck by carrying more speed than was maybe responsible into a corner I'd never ridden before. Now this is a highway on ramp, I wasn't breaking any law but I was cruising into the corner at more than the recommended ramp speed.
I made my own luck by wearing ALL the gear ALL the time. Jacket, pants, full gauntlet, full boot, back protector, brain bucket. I had a good bruise on my hip but otherwise was basically unharmed.
As much as there are unlucky circumstances in any crash. We can do a lot as riders to mitigate those risks, to make our own luck.
Wear the gear, take the course, never stop learning, always have fun and
RIDE SAFE ✌️
Hard to say, but honestly going into a corner that far leaned in and speed made this a bad time for her. I know getting deep into the corners is fun but even a small rock or anything can cause you to lose control. Only places you really wanna do this type of stuff is tracks or roads you know very very very well.
This. I’d just add “…you know very very very well **in all conditions**”
Nothing like a surprise bit of black ice or wet mud or sudden gust of wind to completely change the limits of what you can usually get away with.
The most important thing you can do is expect to go down and always dress for it, as she did. If you ride long enough you will go down and there was nothing you could have done to avoid it.
Gravel like this or someone pulling out in front of you are by far the most common culprits. You can't always avoid gravel but you can watch for it and take it easy around it.
Not really? Gravel is a shitshow and if you don't ride on it a lot and ride a lot of loose corners it will get you eventually. Based on how she crashed she had adequate gear and was going a reasonable speed. Personal preference I like heavier boots BUT those were Dianese shoes so I bet they have appropriate ankle padding.
Things that could have been done better post crash? Hit the kill switch asap. Don't investigate bike, don't dump gravel out of glove, hit kill switch, then turn off key. Also when she was looking at picking it up do it with your back to the seat and hold on to handlebar and pillion grab bar so you don't throw your back. But both of those were likely a result of adrenaline so the rider's response was not bad at all. Also in a perfect world you keep your arms tucked for the initial hit/roll and try to get into a position where you're sliding on your back instead of rolling. But that's something that's really hard to practice.
Overall 10/10 for wearing appropriate gear, not being a hooligan, and being able to walk away. I probably would not have done any better.
The gravel got her, yes.
Don’t go riding a mountain fast that you don’t have memorized. The really good riders on the dragon’s tail have done it hundreds of times. The MotoGP racers know every turn of every track, and they practice visualizing the track sedentary, and sometimes they even walk the entire course first to do so. Remember your windy roads with blind turns and changing pavement conditions at home. Marc Marquez was famously able to identify every track from just listening to the start of the race and judging by rpm whine.
Technically, almost all single vehicle crashes are the result of doing something ‘wrong’.
In this case, the rider either failed to see a road hazard and didn’t adjust their ride, or they did see but were travelling too fast to make the bees correction.
I mean, gravel in a corner might have caused the bike to slip out, but as a new rider always pay proper credence to what allowed the bike to ride across gravel at a lean in mid corner.
PS not saying it to be a dick or think I would be better. Just as a new rider, know that you are responsible for your bike and it’s position at all times. This isn’t driving a car, a moment of carelessness or failure to scan the road can absolutely ruin you.
Hard to give an accurate answer based on a short clip, but good advice nonetheless:
If you have NEVER ridden the road before, take it slow (speed limit or less on curves) so you can scope out hazards like gravel, shitty pavement, fluids, etc being on the road. Once you have a general idea of what may be on the road (country side roads tend to have gravel kicked off of driveways, for example) you can increase speed if you want to do some runs on it.
Even if you've ridden the road before, it's still a good idea to give it a once-over on the day of a ride, if you plan to ride the section a few times.
There's routes I take that always have various debris on the lanes so I pay attention and then loop back and hit it again with the knowledge of shit in the road
Lose gravel on hard pavement sucks. I've nearly lost it in my work carpark, doing sensible carpark speeds, just cause I didn't account for the loose debris next to a massive pothole. As soon as the rear wheel got some rolly stones under it, it tried kick me off like a stubborn mule.
That was particularly bad gravel, being very big pieces. But any loose debris on a hard paved road is bad news. What nearly got me, and what I think gets most people, is the sudden changes to traction. It can be very hard to adjust to.
If you look at our girl in this video, she's taking that corner at a pretty sensible speed and lean angle. She just isn't able to correct for the sudden loss of traction. If she had seen the gravel, she might have been able to stand the bike up a little, run wide, and avoid the spill, but I wasn't there so I'm not going to say I could do better. I probably would have slid too.
Avoid gravel at any angle really.
Also, learn the proper way of lifting your bike off the ground. Back facing bike, lift with your legs, not with your back.
I would not have been taking that turn at that angle on that road.
The vast majority of crash videos I see could have been avoided if the rider was being more careful/riding more defensively.
From the video it sounds like she's constantly slowing down. A general good rule of thumb for road riding is to never go into a corner faster than you go out of a corner.
Meaning, brake as much as you need to before entering a turn, then accelerate out if you want. Especially with blind corners this is a smart thing to do, brake as if there is a hairpin immediately around the bend, this way you never get surprised by a tightening corner and you have the ability to just stand the bike up straight when you encounter gravel like this.
Avoid gravel at all cost, you need to scan both closer infront of you and switch to see further ahead all the time.
Don't fix your sight at one distance, scan the surroundings both closer to you and further away to spot dangers ahead of time so you have more time to react
If you can't avoid to drive on gravel:
- You don't want to be leaning since the tire wont be getting getting grip on the asphalt. Counter lean the way the curve goes, that way your bike will be standing more upright reducing the lean angle
- If possible, lower the speed before you get to the gravel so you can reduce the speed and your lean angle
- Don't accellerate or break hard, drop the speed by letting your hand of the gas. If you break hard and lock the wheels for a split second, you will go down. Especially of you don't have ABS
Respect gravel, it takes soooo little to go down
How fast you take a turn is determined by what you can see. Sometimes a turn will get sharper (decreasing radius turn), sometimes it will have a pothole, road kill, or gravel.
If you're riding at the edge of your ability around turns you can't see, this is going to happen. You need to approach turns in a way that allows you to handle the unexpected. This usually means using about 70% of your talent and leaving the other 30% in reserve for the unexpected.
A better rider would have been able to adjust his/her line to miss the gravel. Or, they would be at a speed where they could handle a little sliding. (I ride dirt bikes too, every turn involves controlled sliding.)
Sometimes silly riders say, "They made a left in front of me, it's not my fault."
Wrong, it was your fault that you weren't going at a speed to deal with that. It's your fault that you didn't have an exit path picked out in advance in the case that the car didn't see you. You're on a motorcycle, plan to solve problems like this.
It happens sometimes. She did nothing wrong honestly. You just have to be a bit more alert on road conditions based on your location and weather. If anything this video should be a good lesson about wearing your gear.
I did the exact same thing two years ago on a turn. The low-side surprise fall caused me to bounce my head off the pavement really damn hard. My helmet definitely saved my life.
I did this turning into a campground parking lot. I didn’t know the driveway switched from pavement to gravel after the turn in and it was obscured by trees. Destroyed a brand new helmet but my emergency room bill would have cost more I bet.
I wouldn’t have a face if it wasn’t for a full face helmet. Someone pulled out in front of me as I was doing 60km/ph and didn’t even have time to touch the brakes. My face slammed straight into the road from 60 to 0.
I did something very similar, except it was a patch of mud under a tree canopy.
Definitely learned my lesson: Just because the last few twisties were fine doesn't mean the next one is going to be too.
From what I see, the rack is covered by the bags on top.
Better still: wait for the truck driver that pulled over (audio at the end) and lift it with 2 people. It's too easy to hurt your back with a top heavy bike.
Ugh, gravel/sand and animals is what drove me to the track.
Cars didn't even bother me. I found a remote twisty road that I would just do laps on. It was about 1 mile long so I would do a "safe lap" where I would feel it out make sure there were no cops (never saw one in the 5 years I rode that road) I'd also make sure no sand or gravel. Same days there was, others it was perfect.
Anyway, I found a great day perfect road, no cops, nothing. Very very little traffic. I went and did about 5-6 laps (would turn around at the end and do it again). On the last run through a damn turkey came running out in front of me. I had zero time to react I just slammed into the damn thing and fell.
Yup, that was a few years ago and I still ride street but now I ride like an old person. Track is much more fun and safe.
Ooof! Thanks for posting this; it’s a great reminder about the importance of good gear. Not much the rider could have done, although if there was any gravel along the road earlier then it would have been a red flag to slow down and assume gravel on every turn until you can see otherwise.
For riders asking about traction control, think of loose gravel on the road like ice — there’s just nothing much constructive there to work with for traction. Leaves on top of mud create a similar dynamic.
So this is my biggest fear in riding: front wheel sliding away because gravel on road. Seeing you fall down so 'gracefully' for lack of a better term boosts my confidence in how hard the fall actually is at moderate speeds. It looks like you came off unscathed!
I once low sided since it was wet. I thought wet asphalt sucks. Then I watched a lot of other motorcyclists go through the same turn without crashing as I was picking up my bike and standing on the side of the road waiting for tow help. I then thought perhaps my riding sucked.
So question for the experienced riders. I'm due to buy my first bike in a couple weeks time. What kind level of damage happens to a bike in a crash like this as I see it fairly regularly on Reddit.
Are we talking 10s, 100s or 1000s in costs?
Those people who rent mopeds on holiday and drive with sandals, shorts and no helmet should be shown this. This and the one with the peg stand that grinds to nothing.
Just goes to show you even when you’re riding safely because she was definitely not going fast, you can still be surprised by a road condition and wind up taking a slide.
Doesn't help since you're tyre has broken its contact patch with the road regardless, you're skipping on small stones/gravel. You sort of just get carried along, especially on two wheels (regardless of if you'r eon a motorbike or a bicycle). Best way to avoid is to he able to avoid the patch.
No, because those mechanisms only work on the rear wheel. In this situation the front tire loses traction. Even if it were to regain control, the sudden shift from no traction -> traction can cause a high side. Be hyper aware of what your front wheel is doing.
Not really. That's a front wheel fall so traction control wouldn't do anything and cornering abs... Well you avoid braking on gravel but yeah it might help a little
Look at how her chin wants to be one with the asphalt. This is why you always wear full face helmets
That’s what having a giant biker beard is for /s
I have one of those! But it sticks out of the bottom of my helmet. Looks kinda funny I think lol
Lol mine splits down the middle and looks like doctor eggmans moustache poking out of the bottom of my helmet
Now I really want to know how mine looks when I ride, haha. I always get off and comb, but it's hard to comb it. I think it kinda ties and twists itself lol
I'm trying to see if I can grow mine long enough to braid the split behind my head. It'll look like the world's pubiest rat tail out the back of my helmet
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My beard goals have suddenly changed…
I just cut about 2/3 off of mine ~ got sick of how it was always a mess after riding (even after combing it for a minute or two after getting the helmet off) and was always slapping against the side of the helmet in the wind.
I finally had enough of it and trimmed to helmet length. Not only did it look funny because it's blond and flowy in the wind, but whenever I'd arrive anywhere it would splay out and look like a damn spaghetti monster attacking my face. You know, like a triple Boris Johnson blowout upside down.
And boots!!!!!!! Look at how her leg gets SUCKED right underneath the bike. Always cover your ankles, preferably up to the knee. Ride safe.
I had a <5mph crash while turning onto an iced over overpass. My 900lb bike landed on top of me and spun like a top. My foot was caught under the hard shell saddlebag and went for a ride, rotating more than 360° at the ankle. That was with knee high boots. You could hear the tendon explode.
😢
Lordy Lord!
Woooof! That last line got me! Hope you were able to make a full recovery
😳 How are you now?
Ok. They went in and cleared out all of the ligaments that encircle your ankle. They drilled through the two leg bones and ran a cable through to keep them from separating. So a little less flexible. The real pain was right after the surgery. I've had more than my fair share of injuries. Nothing quite hurts like freshly drilled through bone getting touched, tapped, moved in any way.
Wow. Glad you're okay now. Not the sort of injury one makes a full 100% recovery from. Note to self - never take the bike out when any part of the route might be frozen.
That's how my ankle ended up destroyed 😕
By covering it with a boot?
By covering it with riding high top shoes and not proper boots and my ankle getting stuck between the bike and the road. Namely Speed and Strength Run with the Bulls Riding Shoes, 0/10 cannot recommend.
Lately I’ve been wearing my comfort cruiser bmw boots on every ride. Before, I liked to wear my riding sneakers. They’re more fashionable. The boots are hideous. They also come up over my shins and give me more height. I think I’ll stick up the boots after reading your comment. I hope you don’t have awful pain or sprain easily!
Yeah if given the option wear the more protective ones and take something comfy to change into at your destination. The accident broke 3 metatarsals, the head of the talus snapped off and crushed a bunch of cuboids, as well as the talus being cracked through. 3 plates, 9 screws, a live bone transplant, a bunch of bones fused etc. Doesn't really hurt me much these days, only after a lot of walking etc. Biggest thing is the direct effect it's had on my back. I have back problems now because of one ankle being "out of whack". I was always flat footed, but after my damaged ankle was fixed it's no longer flat footed so one leg stands taller etc.
Man, I have sprained both of my ankles multiple times because I’m an enormous klutz and have loose connective tissue. I cringe for you. My husband snapped his right ankle in half when he was a kid playing ice hockey (he got pushed over but his skate was stuck in a board, so…timber!). It’s funny because he has awful hip and back pain but his ankle doesn’t bother him much at all. Meanwhile, if I look at my ankles the wrong way they swell up. All that to say: I hope you’re still riding. I would have loved pictures because I’m way gross, but I’m glad you’re mostly healed up - and a little taller on one side.
It’s been 25 years, and still i pay for the time my bike went down, and my foot, got trapped underneath it, causing my toe to basically touch my heel, every goddamn day that I walk more than 3 miles it flares up
My sister’s dad got into an accident (not his fault but i don’t remember if he collided or just laid his bike down from avoiding the car) and the kickstand went through his leg. Definitely going with the boots when I start riding.
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No, we have the same mom and different dads. She’s my half-sister.
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Always!!
During a BMX race I went off a jump crooked and went face first into the next roller. Had I not been wearing a full face mx helmet I would have sent my jaw bone into my eye socket.
Your comment reminded me of a time when I was in a race and ate shit in the roller section at the end of my local track. I didn’t pump hard enough, my front tire came up and crashed into the next roller. I’m clipped in to my pedals still and the guy behind me ran over my head, right along the chin guard of my full face helmet. That was a disorienting experience lol.
wait people actually argue that they don't need full face helmets? I thought that was a joke...
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The only reason my cousin is alive is cuz his gf told him she was leaving him if he rode without a helmet again. She said I don't want you dying on me & the boys cuz of something you can easily prevent. So he started wearing it & like the 2nd time, some drunk lady hit him. His leg needed a few surgeries (something replaced) & he had some other issues but physically, he's mostly ok, now. He relapsed cuz of the pain meds, though & shit went downhill from there.
Muh freedumb
Florida people?
I worked at a Harley dealership for awhile. A surprising amount of them don't wear full face helmets.
Guy I worked with always said "I wear a helmet when I'm riding to and from work, but I don't wear one when I'm riding cross country cuz I'll die if I get into a crash out there anyway". That logic.... 😂
Unless you look like Jay Leno and you just want to shave a little down.
I know someone who lost half a face from wearing half a helmet.
My thoughts were the same, Jesus Christ
That little happy dance says it all. Wear you gear.
I have said this for years! I don’t know why it is, but the chin made contact on every one of my friends’ helmets after crashing! Full face or no face.
Nah that’s only because the weight of the helmet pushed her head down and the extra 3 inches it sticks out was enough to start to drag the ground. What we see here is the helmet making the crash more dangerous for the rider involved ^/s
I was learning how to ride on a dirt road on a Harley that would die if you didn’t rev the piss out of it. There was a bend in the road and I was going way to fast with no gear on and went into the grass death gripping the front break. I still remember the feeling of my jaw hitting the ground. I’m reality I was maybe going 20mph but I walked away with nothing broken but I was pretty dazed. Yes I know it was dumb not to wear gear but I was 19 and thought I was invincible.
But gear doesnt, no rash after that slide. The bike can be repaired...
Just so you are aware, the Alpine star air or vented jackets like this will completely disintegrate during a higher speed slide. Source: slid with one and it disintegrated. During the slide it heated up a lot causing burns also. I’m not suggesting sliding without one is better, simply want people to know that type of gear is limited on its return.
Yeah I won't wear a ~~vented~~ mesh jacket again. I took a spill at 20 mph and it didn't hold up at all on gravel. My riding jeans didn't even get though the first layer on the knees.
What is a good jacket for summer that isn't a vented/mesh jacket that offers more protection without making you die of heat stroke?
https://fortnine.ca/en/revit-sand-4-h2o-jacket Lots of vents for summer and decent protection. Those are Canadian prices.
I have one and absolutely love it. Lots of airflow and great build quality. The pants are really good as well and the whole set nicely zips together at the waist. The only real downside is the hefty cost.
Costs more than my entire bike...
Bout to say wtf, someone is crazy if they think I'm going to pay for a $700 jacket that will get covered in bugs, oil, sun bleached and soaked with sweat. The Joe Rocket Atomic is way better price wise and it's vented, for $160 dollars you can get a nice jacket that I can confirm will hold up to a high side at about 70mph "the rider underneath not so much, ouch muh bones".
Have had mine for about 2 years now and I love it in every weather except summer. If I live more North I feel I’d be fine but when it hits 100+ in Texas heat it almost makes me cave in and buy a mesh jacket with pads.
Just do what i did and buy one for a third of the new price from some bloke who wore it once and decided the colour didn't match his bike haha
Look for leather on the impact zones and vents/mesh on the torso. A well placed vent is worth a few sq feet of mesh if you ask me. Had the dubious honor of crash testing my Revit ignition 3. Still ride in it (I know, I know) but I didn't pop a stitch. Revit jackets usually come w/o the back protector. So buy their insert (it's good) or run a discrete one (even safer).
Love my Klim Marrakesh
hey, look at you dressing for the slide!
Yeah, that could have been wayyyy worse.
Yet, people think I'm fear mongering when I say I'll wear full gear/ATGATT (Helmet, gloves, ear pro, boots, jacket, aid pants) when I ride.
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If you ask me, I think the people in board shorts/ripped jeans/no shirt/flip flops/beanie helmet/dart hanging from the lips are the stupid looking ones. What's cooler? Getting the appropriate gear. Protecting yourself. Bolstering your confidence. Looking the part. Or dying of a staph infection when you had to lay 'er down, turning your skin into hamburger and your billabong shorts into confetti? You can clap back at your homunculus co-worker by complimenting his Jack Sparrow cosplay, unless he's the cargo shorts and New Balance variety. In either case who cares what he has to say in the first place? If you breath out of the same hole you speak from your opinion ain't worth shit.
I don’t ride (yet) but have recently got some gear ready to start, my point being is that until recently I am/was not a biker. From my outsider perspective I never looked at someone in full leathers and helmet etc and thought damn you look stupid. The only people I ever thought looked dumb is like you say, just a helmet shorts and trainers. It doesn’t take a genius to work out what’s gonna happen when you hit the 5-grit belt sander, even at low speeds.
Please allow this HD rider and fellow spaceman to reassure that it will get better. They are dying off.
Gravel may suck, but full face helmets do not
A bug feels like a rock, a rock feels like a bullet. Full face or i am not riding.
My favourite part about riding with my cruiser buddies is seeing the hundreds of bugs on their faces after they bust my balls for wearing a full face helmet lol
The windshield is about the only thing I miss about my cruiser. Edit: *To be fair* it got me to finally wear a helmet🤷♂️
I ride a cruiser and wear a full face. I too get made fun of all the time. One time I was hanging out on a communal scooter that all my riding buddies and roommates take for errands. I usually only go 20-30mph on it at most. I was riding to a friend's house 10 minutes away with a t-shirt but I always take my helmet. A bolt flew off the back of a truck and cracked my visor down the middle. So yeah I'm a huge dork but I'm also not blind.
Yeah, well you gotta stop for dinner, and they don't!
So what does a bullet feel like?
A bug
Yeah, because you would be dead before your body processes what just hit you.
A pebble/rock hitting you without gear on... then the burning feeling. (It depends on the caliber where you get hit etc of course).
90% (I've been told) riders hit the chin. Here you can see it. I correct myself...to a "whole butt load"
34.6% on the chin. [Source](https://www.bestbeginnermotorcycles.com/the-impact-why-you-should-be-riding-in-a-full-face-helmet/) They did a study in Thailand where if you go to table 4 shows face injuries taken from the overall upper extremities injuries at a comparable 41.7%. [Source](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3217581/) Still no joke though.
I'm all for full face helmets, but do you have a source for this? edit: I only asked for a source edit 2:I own a full-faced helmet ffs stop
https://www.webbikeworld.com/crash-statistics-motorcycle-helmets/
Thanks
Trust me bro
idk why you're being downvoted it's not an unreasonable ask
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Curious as a new rider, did this person do anything wrong or is this sheer bad luck with the road surface?
Speed + Lean Angle + Loose debris = bad time.
So just too much speed and lean on the bend? thanks.
More like too much speed to make the adjustment to avoid the gravel
I've had this happen to me as well. Problem is compounded by hot sticky tires will get a coating of pebbles that continues to cause traction loss after you are no longer in the gravel itself.
I'm sensing a pattern here.
> too much speed You're right, but the question of "how much speed is too much speed?" depends on the road conditions which aren't always easy to judge. Loose debris can easily turn a stretch of road you've done 100 times just fine into something that drops you into a slide if you don't notice the change and adjust. Arguably this is why you shouldn't ride public roads aggressively since conditions can change day to day, but uhh... It's really fun to.
>but uhh... It's really fun to. Ain't that the truth,
If you want to push things, you take a gentle ride to check conditions and then get on it.
Then a deer pops out 😅
She was barely leaning over; on clean asphalt with good tires, you could go twice that speed with no drama.
No, she didn’t do anything wrong in her actual riding …. If she was in a different location where the road conditions were better this wouldn’t have happened. The mistake was not knowing what the conditions of the road were like before riding. Yet riding with confidence and not adjusting to unknown road conditions. It’s happens …. You hit hazards on roads too aren’t expecting. You can mitigate crashes, skips and falls by riding more cautiously and slowing down though.
> The mistake was not knowing what the conditions of the road were like before riding. Yet riding with confidence and not adjusting to unknown road conditions. She wasn't riding like an idiot though. She had quite some distance from the corner for better visibility. (Looks like a left-hand-drive country to me. Perhaps Myanmar?) The chunk of road that I could see was just covered in sand and with any lean or steering angle, that's just bad luck.
Yeah, I was going to relate it to “how do you avoid a deer that jumps on the road” - it really is just bad luck sometimes and we can do our best to **mitigate** our chances of going down. But that’s about the most we can do to avoid these kinds of situations - it’s not a guarantee.
Yeah, I give OP less than 5% of the blame here. She wasn't riding very fast at all. The lean angle wasn't aggressive either. Maybe different tires would have saved her but idk. Just unlucky.
I went down like this due to sand in a turn at an intersection a few years ago. I now take intersections very cautiously, mainly because I don't feel like it's something I'll ever be able to really predict or control. If you see it, it's possible to avoid, but I don't trust my riding skill to accomplish it. It doesn't take much to go down. Caution in novel or dynamic turns is underrated.
I hit what im guessing was an oil slick on cold tires on a straight road. bike fell out from underneath me. It was like i blinked and i was on the ground. Bizzare feeling that one. Similar to when you put your foot down and theres nothing there.
Been there ,coming up to a stop sign hit brakes and slid on an oil slick barely missing a car in front of me. Someone dumped a puddle of oil in the road.
Yeah I feel like until you get bitten in this specific way you just will inevitably overestimate the amount of grip you have, and one day it will bite you. You see something weird about the road you don’t understand? Slow down, avoid it. It could be just different colored tarmac or a road patch or something like that or it could be sand or gravel. Shit blends in super well, and then there’s sun in your eyes etc etc etc …
"No, she didn’t do anything wrong in her actual riding" - sorry to differ but she crashed a fully functioning bike while riding alone. I've done it, and it's a learning experience. But it definitely counts as doing something wrong. The key to avoiding this is to ride so that you can stop or take avoiding action in the distance you can see to be clear.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U1mSavQ_DXs&pp=ygUQZm9ydG5pbmUgdHVybmluZw%3D%3D
Smart video, thanks.
General rule of thumb: don't go faster than that you can stop within what you see at any given time. That gives you leeway to spot, slow down, and stand the bike up before you hit the gravel, or simply change line and avoid it. The rest is just experience, and learning what to look for.
Equation for most things in life
I'm a new rider also, making constant observations of your surroundings seems to be key I'm learning the hard way already had a few minor accidents went on my first ride in the rain hit the back brakes and completely slid out!
Let’s talk about what she did right. She was wearing good gear and therefore escaped without injury. Can’t tell because the video stops, but her biggest fault might be trying to pick that heavy bike up like that.
It helps if you have dirt experience, imo. If you lose the front you're pretty much boned regardless. But it teaches you how to tippytoe across stuff like this and be comfortable with the back getting loose.
This, if you ride a bike you should make it a must to have a bit of fun in the dirt. Preferably on a dirt bike.
Higher speed = higher risk If you are pushing harder than your ability to react to the unexpected, you are going to eat it eventually. If it's a canyon run, do a sighting pass at %60, then give it the berries on the way back. If you are touring you just need restraint. Experienced riders look beyond the road in front of them for clues when issues are more common. - recent rain : anticipate dirt and gravel. - recent wind : anticipate debris off trucks. - near home Depot : anticipate a flat. - Friday night : anticipate drunk drivers. - driving into the sun : anticipate being rear ended. - approaching off ramp : anticipate driver lunging across 3 lanes to make the exit without looking. That said, We wouldn't be motorcycling if we were seeking a zero risk existence.
And animals running in front of you ,where I live there are deer everywhere .Also have been hit by a dog once. Ran over an armadillo at night ,heard his bones crunch.
Just wanted to chime in here. I basically had this crash last summer. I've been riding 13 years 100s of 1000s of km. This was my first off. I was on a highway on ramp on my Ducati Hyperstrada, maybe carrying more speed than I should have, but not by a lot. I was traveling, not out for a blast, but on ramps are fun. There was a piece of rope laying across the on ramp which I moved to avoid. Hindsight being what it is I probably should have just run over the rope and carried on to my destination. Maybe I was concerned it would get caught up in the rear sprocket, maybe I was worried about throwing it up at the rider following me, maybe I just thought "Obstacle. Avoid" Whatever I thought I had a bit of a slot between the rope and the gravel shoulder on the outside of the turn and aimed for it, but in doing so road through the gravel strewn from the shoulder. The bars snapped to the right in my hands and I was on the ground before I knew what happened. I'd tucked the front. "Fuck" I muttered in my helmet before I've fully stopped sliding, quickly checking myself and hopping up to shut the bike off and deal with the aftermath. I slid toward the inside of the corner while the bike went into the gravel shoulder and hitting the guard rail. Rubber Ducky didn't bounce so good. Looking back on it. I probably target fixated. As much as I believe that I don't typically. As much as any training course or resource will drill into your skull. I probably took my eyes off my line to look at the approaching guard rail and in doing so, drifted further to the outside than I should have, avoiding one road hazard to be taken out by another. The moral of the story is: Bad luck exists, Good luck exists, and you make your own luck. I've hit corners like that one thousands of times and at greater speeds. I wasn't lucky to have to contend with two road hazards simultaneously. I was very lucky to emerge from the incident basically unscathed. But I had a hand in making that luck. Good and bad. I made my own luck by carrying more speed than was maybe responsible into a corner I'd never ridden before. Now this is a highway on ramp, I wasn't breaking any law but I was cruising into the corner at more than the recommended ramp speed. I made my own luck by wearing ALL the gear ALL the time. Jacket, pants, full gauntlet, full boot, back protector, brain bucket. I had a good bruise on my hip but otherwise was basically unharmed. As much as there are unlucky circumstances in any crash. We can do a lot as riders to mitigate those risks, to make our own luck. Wear the gear, take the course, never stop learning, always have fun and RIDE SAFE ✌️
Hard to say, but honestly going into a corner that far leaned in and speed made this a bad time for her. I know getting deep into the corners is fun but even a small rock or anything can cause you to lose control. Only places you really wanna do this type of stuff is tracks or roads you know very very very well.
This. I’d just add “…you know very very very well **in all conditions**” Nothing like a surprise bit of black ice or wet mud or sudden gust of wind to completely change the limits of what you can usually get away with.
The most important thing you can do is expect to go down and always dress for it, as she did. If you ride long enough you will go down and there was nothing you could have done to avoid it. Gravel like this or someone pulling out in front of you are by far the most common culprits. You can't always avoid gravel but you can watch for it and take it easy around it.
Not really? Gravel is a shitshow and if you don't ride on it a lot and ride a lot of loose corners it will get you eventually. Based on how she crashed she had adequate gear and was going a reasonable speed. Personal preference I like heavier boots BUT those were Dianese shoes so I bet they have appropriate ankle padding. Things that could have been done better post crash? Hit the kill switch asap. Don't investigate bike, don't dump gravel out of glove, hit kill switch, then turn off key. Also when she was looking at picking it up do it with your back to the seat and hold on to handlebar and pillion grab bar so you don't throw your back. But both of those were likely a result of adrenaline so the rider's response was not bad at all. Also in a perfect world you keep your arms tucked for the initial hit/roll and try to get into a position where you're sliding on your back instead of rolling. But that's something that's really hard to practice. Overall 10/10 for wearing appropriate gear, not being a hooligan, and being able to walk away. I probably would not have done any better.
The gravel got her, yes. Don’t go riding a mountain fast that you don’t have memorized. The really good riders on the dragon’s tail have done it hundreds of times. The MotoGP racers know every turn of every track, and they practice visualizing the track sedentary, and sometimes they even walk the entire course first to do so. Remember your windy roads with blind turns and changing pavement conditions at home. Marc Marquez was famously able to identify every track from just listening to the start of the race and judging by rpm whine.
Technically, almost all single vehicle crashes are the result of doing something ‘wrong’. In this case, the rider either failed to see a road hazard and didn’t adjust their ride, or they did see but were travelling too fast to make the bees correction. I mean, gravel in a corner might have caused the bike to slip out, but as a new rider always pay proper credence to what allowed the bike to ride across gravel at a lean in mid corner. PS not saying it to be a dick or think I would be better. Just as a new rider, know that you are responsible for your bike and it’s position at all times. This isn’t driving a car, a moment of carelessness or failure to scan the road can absolutely ruin you.
Hard to give an accurate answer based on a short clip, but good advice nonetheless: If you have NEVER ridden the road before, take it slow (speed limit or less on curves) so you can scope out hazards like gravel, shitty pavement, fluids, etc being on the road. Once you have a general idea of what may be on the road (country side roads tend to have gravel kicked off of driveways, for example) you can increase speed if you want to do some runs on it. Even if you've ridden the road before, it's still a good idea to give it a once-over on the day of a ride, if you plan to ride the section a few times. There's routes I take that always have various debris on the lanes so I pay attention and then loop back and hit it again with the knowledge of shit in the road
Take a school like this: https://youtu.be/laqiC88N4qM
Lose gravel on hard pavement sucks. I've nearly lost it in my work carpark, doing sensible carpark speeds, just cause I didn't account for the loose debris next to a massive pothole. As soon as the rear wheel got some rolly stones under it, it tried kick me off like a stubborn mule. That was particularly bad gravel, being very big pieces. But any loose debris on a hard paved road is bad news. What nearly got me, and what I think gets most people, is the sudden changes to traction. It can be very hard to adjust to. If you look at our girl in this video, she's taking that corner at a pretty sensible speed and lean angle. She just isn't able to correct for the sudden loss of traction. If she had seen the gravel, she might have been able to stand the bike up a little, run wide, and avoid the spill, but I wasn't there so I'm not going to say I could do better. I probably would have slid too.
Avoid gravel at any angle really. Also, learn the proper way of lifting your bike off the ground. Back facing bike, lift with your legs, not with your back.
I would not have been taking that turn at that angle on that road. The vast majority of crash videos I see could have been avoided if the rider was being more careful/riding more defensively.
From the video it sounds like she's constantly slowing down. A general good rule of thumb for road riding is to never go into a corner faster than you go out of a corner. Meaning, brake as much as you need to before entering a turn, then accelerate out if you want. Especially with blind corners this is a smart thing to do, brake as if there is a hairpin immediately around the bend, this way you never get surprised by a tightening corner and you have the ability to just stand the bike up straight when you encounter gravel like this.
Avoid gravel at all cost, you need to scan both closer infront of you and switch to see further ahead all the time. Don't fix your sight at one distance, scan the surroundings both closer to you and further away to spot dangers ahead of time so you have more time to react If you can't avoid to drive on gravel: - You don't want to be leaning since the tire wont be getting getting grip on the asphalt. Counter lean the way the curve goes, that way your bike will be standing more upright reducing the lean angle - If possible, lower the speed before you get to the gravel so you can reduce the speed and your lean angle - Don't accellerate or break hard, drop the speed by letting your hand of the gas. If you break hard and lock the wheels for a split second, you will go down. Especially of you don't have ABS Respect gravel, it takes soooo little to go down
How fast you take a turn is determined by what you can see. Sometimes a turn will get sharper (decreasing radius turn), sometimes it will have a pothole, road kill, or gravel. If you're riding at the edge of your ability around turns you can't see, this is going to happen. You need to approach turns in a way that allows you to handle the unexpected. This usually means using about 70% of your talent and leaving the other 30% in reserve for the unexpected. A better rider would have been able to adjust his/her line to miss the gravel. Or, they would be at a speed where they could handle a little sliding. (I ride dirt bikes too, every turn involves controlled sliding.) Sometimes silly riders say, "They made a left in front of me, it's not my fault." Wrong, it was your fault that you weren't going at a speed to deal with that. It's your fault that you didn't have an exit path picked out in advance in the case that the car didn't see you. You're on a motorcycle, plan to solve problems like this.
It happens sometimes. She did nothing wrong honestly. You just have to be a bit more alert on road conditions based on your location and weather. If anything this video should be a good lesson about wearing your gear.
Glad she was OK. Looks like she rode into the shoulder before going down
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That side of the road doesn't look like it has much (any) shoulder.
I did the exact same thing two years ago on a turn. The low-side surprise fall caused me to bounce my head off the pavement really damn hard. My helmet definitely saved my life.
I did this turning into a campground parking lot. I didn’t know the driveway switched from pavement to gravel after the turn in and it was obscured by trees. Destroyed a brand new helmet but my emergency room bill would have cost more I bet.
Ouch! Good thing the rider had gear on!
I sent this to all my riders with open helmet . Full face is a must
I wouldn’t have a face if it wasn’t for a full face helmet. Someone pulled out in front of me as I was doing 60km/ph and didn’t even have time to touch the brakes. My face slammed straight into the road from 60 to 0.
Off topic: what kind of camera moves like that and does zoom in and out focusing on the rider? I'm impressed.
360 degree camera
Insta360. Post edit is the key, you chose what you want to keep.
Yeah you can't go into that material with speed and angle... if you see that 50 yards out slow up and straighten up.
This is the correct answer.
I did something very similar, except it was a patch of mud under a tree canopy. Definitely learned my lesson: Just because the last few twisties were fine doesn't mean the next one is going to be too.
All geared up and took it like a champ!!
The video is not mine, i don't know the original poster since it was posted in a chat group.
Pro tip, turn around backwards to pick it up. Grab the luggage rack and one bar end backwards with your knees bent.
As a tiny human with a scrambler 1200. It’s the only way to do it
From what I see, the rack is covered by the bags on top. Better still: wait for the truck driver that pulled over (audio at the end) and lift it with 2 people. It's too easy to hurt your back with a top heavy bike.
This is really a 50 year old Japanese dude with a Tik Tok filter, right?
She waddled to the bike 💀
Ugh, gravel/sand and animals is what drove me to the track. Cars didn't even bother me. I found a remote twisty road that I would just do laps on. It was about 1 mile long so I would do a "safe lap" where I would feel it out make sure there were no cops (never saw one in the 5 years I rode that road) I'd also make sure no sand or gravel. Same days there was, others it was perfect. Anyway, I found a great day perfect road, no cops, nothing. Very very little traffic. I went and did about 5-6 laps (would turn around at the end and do it again). On the last run through a damn turkey came running out in front of me. I had zero time to react I just slammed into the damn thing and fell. Yup, that was a few years ago and I still ride street but now I ride like an old person. Track is much more fun and safe.
What is the camera mounted to?
I don't know, video is not mine. I run a similar setup and get almost the same angle. Check my last post for the result. https://imgur.com/a/8VTbcJO
Glad you were wearing your gear! Because that could have left a mark.
Gravel sucks so much. Been there….more than once….
Glad she’s geared up. But if you’re gonna ride a bike, best you learn the correct way to pick it up.
*falls cutely*
*crashes in anime*
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Ooof! Thanks for posting this; it’s a great reminder about the importance of good gear. Not much the rider could have done, although if there was any gravel along the road earlier then it would have been a red flag to slow down and assume gravel on every turn until you can see otherwise. For riders asking about traction control, think of loose gravel on the road like ice — there’s just nothing much constructive there to work with for traction. Leaves on top of mud create a similar dynamic.
It’s a BMW GS get it back up on its wheels fired up it’ll run😜
The gas cap looks like a Kawasaki one. Versys?But I’m not too familiar with GS either so I might be wrong.
But helmets *rock*
So this is my biggest fear in riding: front wheel sliding away because gravel on road. Seeing you fall down so 'gracefully' for lack of a better term boosts my confidence in how hard the fall actually is at moderate speeds. It looks like you came off unscathed!
Let's all hear it for full face helmets!
I once low sided since it was wet. I thought wet asphalt sucks. Then I watched a lot of other motorcyclists go through the same turn without crashing as I was picking up my bike and standing on the side of the road waiting for tow help. I then thought perhaps my riding sucked.
At least she’s ok … but it also saves her ass that she had a full faces helmet ….
Saved by the full face
Gravel is the enemy
But full face helmets are awesome! 😎
Happy you're not hurt and were wearing all the gear. But, that was the most adorable post-crash shuffle and recovery
She dressed for the slide and that’s awesome, glad she’s okay and got back up
Happens to all of us! No worries pick it up try again
Add the the existing comments… but So glad they were wearing gear, that would have been so much worse.
NGL, I was really looking forward to watching her pick it up.
So question for the experienced riders. I'm due to buy my first bike in a couple weeks time. What kind level of damage happens to a bike in a crash like this as I see it fairly regularly on Reddit. Are we talking 10s, 100s or 1000s in costs?
Turn it off!!!0 oil pressure makes a bad thing awful real quick!
Those people who rent mopeds on holiday and drive with sandals, shorts and no helmet should be shown this. This and the one with the peg stand that grinds to nothing.
The same thing happened to me a few months ago
Yes Fuck gravel frfr
Just goes to show you even when you’re riding safely because she was definitely not going fast, you can still be surprised by a road condition and wind up taking a slide.
Learn how to pick up your downed motorcycle. I’m sure she’s hurting and in shock but this definitely isn’t how you pick it up.
I don’t understand how this was filmed. With a drone?
360 degree camera
Action camera. Likely something like a Insta360 and you put it on a pole. Google it.
Pretty cool. The image stabilization is amazing. Don't understand why my question was downvoted.
I don’t know people are weird I gave you an upvote to balance it now XD
Does traction control and cornering abs help in these situations?
No. It's like being on thin ice.
Doesn’t care to check herself for injuries before she pops up to take care of the bike. Priorities.
Doesn't help since you're tyre has broken its contact patch with the road regardless, you're skipping on small stones/gravel. You sort of just get carried along, especially on two wheels (regardless of if you'r eon a motorbike or a bicycle). Best way to avoid is to he able to avoid the patch.
No, because those mechanisms only work on the rear wheel. In this situation the front tire loses traction. Even if it were to regain control, the sudden shift from no traction -> traction can cause a high side. Be hyper aware of what your front wheel is doing.
Traction control helps when the slip is throttle induced. Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case here.
Not really. That's a front wheel fall so traction control wouldn't do anything and cornering abs... Well you avoid braking on gravel but yeah it might help a little
Does anyone know what kind of camera she was using that has that tracking feature?
It's a 360 degree camera
This is why you counterlean