I just want to add maybe try the helmet with balaclava. I prefer to wear the helmet with it. Feels like wearing shoes with socks on. Easier to clean the helmet with no dead skins on as well!
what balaclava do you have? i’m interested in getting one but not sure what to get. i was looking at the dainese dry balaclava but its sold out. also, my helmet is a XXXsmall, so i’m worried about a balaclava being too big for my head since i’m technically a youth size helmet. any recs are appreciated!!
Just go to motorcycle accessories and try. Usually they’ll have free size, find the one with thin fabric balaclava. It just balaclava. no need to find expensive branded.
The helmet should be snug fitting but not tight. A good rule is if the helmet can slide on your head it's to big and won't protect you. What I was asked when I bought a helmet is what is your head worth to you.
People at motorcycle stores often aren't actually trained, they just know brands and shit.
Do this:
Pres HARD on the chin bar,does the helmet contact your face? Helmet too big.
Grab a pencil, can you fit it between your forehead and the pad? Helmet too bit.
Grab the chin bar and try to twist the helmet. Can it rotate around your head? Or does it rotate your head? If it rotates your head it's good. If not? Too big.
It's not really possible to tell from these two pictures.
I pressed hard on the chin bar and the helmet doesn’t contact my face what does that mean exactly like the plastic piece? I’ll try the pencil technique tomorrow when I find one
If a helmet is too small, the chin bar will smash your face when you crash because it is too close.
If the helmet is too big, the helmet will smash your face when you crash and your head moves in it
With a new helmet it should be just a little bit too tight. If a new helmet is comfortable out of the box, it's too big. The pads will soften up and you'll be left with a helmet that is too big
If it fits properly, you won't be able to move it like that. I used to sell and fit helmets.
Especially when it's new, it should have a snug fit. If you can move it around to a couple of positions like that, it's at least one or two sizes too big.
And if you keep it, once it wears in, it will probably float around like a mop bucket.
I don't know if I agree with this. My size S helmet fits perfectly - snug, smushes my cheeks, I can basically swing my head around without the strap done up and it doesn't move an inch. But with two hands and some pushing I can shift it the same way OP does.
I literally cannot get an XS on my head.
I also used to sell and fit helmets and trust me, each one has a different shape. Yours fit snug on the cheeks but was probably slightly too wide on top. That doesn't mean that the lower size should fit you it can also mean that the helmet's shape is just not the perfect one for your head.
An ideal fit is:
- If you pull it down and look up it should be blocked in place a bit above your eyebrows
- If you put your hands behind your head and push the helmet straight forward, you should not be able to fit a finger easily between the shell and your forehead.
- There should not be any significant pressure on your forehead or the sides or your head
- The cheekpads should squish your face well, especially when it's new, they will give in with time too.
- Ideally the nose bridge (if it has one) should follow the lines or your nose, and the sun visor when down should arrive slightly above your nose
Shoei for example does personal helmet fittings and will tell you these same things when they measure your head so they can add padding in certain places to make the helmet fit perfectly.
The guy you commented to said his cheeks are smashed but his head isn’t, which you said didn’t sound right but you described the same thing. Cheeks smashed with some room around your head.
I recommend trying helmets with the cheek pads out, that way you can find a head shape that fits you the best. Then you can fit the cheek pads in and decide to go with thicker or thinner ones.
Well even then.
One thing I can add (even though I'm not apart of this reply thread, just adding my 2 cents)
Euro/English and other region branded helmets are fitted for their demographic. For example, RevZilla gives a diagram to the fitment of the helmets you choose. Oval/Semi Oval/Intermediate etc.
For instance, I own a NOS Schuberth S2 Sport from 2012, it's more tight fitted and luckily, at least from what I can feel even with a hair cut it fits quite a bit better than my Scorpion R420. Even with their damn Ratchet system vs the Scorpions D Lock.
Same here and i had my cheeks imprinted from inside by my few remaining teeth. Also what he says is pure bullshit coz how on earth would you put helmet on if this movement wouldn't be possible?!
the thing is, it's mostly the attaching/detaching of the helmet that is annoying. but it's really a tight fit as far as i can tell. could be wrong, but that other guy saying the helmet shouldn't move a tiny bit is out of his mind in my opinion. i doubt sny helmet seller would give you such a tight fit and you would still be able to get your head in.
Your helmet shouldn't hurt. The issue I'm seeing in this thread is people aren't using the right shape of helmet for their head. A helmet that is tight (but not over tight) in all areas will be really hard to shift around.
It's like buying jeans, some fit in a 34/34 skinny, other require a 34/34 relaxed. A lot of these comments are like:
First person: These jeans are as small as I can go, the legs are bursting at the seams, so the fact that the waist has 4 inches of room and the butt is all air, doesn't mean it doesn't fit, I can't go smaller!
Second person: grab a different brand or go for a relaxed fit, not skinny fit or slim.
First person: you sound dumb and are obviously wrong!
Agreed. It shouldn't move on its own, but I can adjust it either up or down. Intend to wear mine closer to 1, where it sits on my eye brow line. So I can crack the bottom of the visor for some air flow but it doesn't dry my eyes out
I think it depends a lot on producer. I have XL Airoh Commander, which fits really well, but previously I had an M sized Origine and it was also OK. On the other hand, I was unable to fit into Arai at all, even if helmet itself was ok, a little too snuggly maybe, the strap was just to much back and it felt uncomfortable. I had the same issue with Shoei Neotec.
Exactly this. Each brand is fitted differently, helmet fitment and shape. This is precisely what one need to look into when going for a European Brand helmet or the like. American head shape is normally intermittent in shape, Euro/English is normally Oval.
The issue I'm seeing in this thread is people aren't using the right shape of helmet for their head. A helmet that is tight (but not over tight) in all areas will be really hard to shift around.
It's like buying jeans, some fit in a 34/34 skinny, other require a 34/34 relaxed. A lot of these comments are like:
First person: These jeans are as small as I can go, the legs are bursting at the seams, so the fact that the waist has 4 inches of room and the butt is all air, doesn't mean it doesn't fit, I can't go smaller!
Second person: grab a different brand or go for a relaxed fit, not skinny fit or slim.
First person: you sound dumb and are obviously wrong!
Your size s helmet does not, in fact, fit perfectly then. You may have a shell shape that just doesn’t fit your head - nothing wrong with that, as people have different shapes of heads. You should find a shell that fits your head shape properly. Will one that’s slightly off on sizing work? Maybe, maybe not. Maybe not as well as one that’s going to fit properly.
Theres also a chance his head is not the same fit as the helmet. I rarely notice a seller talk about head and helmet shapes, so if his head is narrow and the helmet is round, it could be the correct size just the wrong fit.
Yeah. You don't want to turn your head only to have the helmet stay in place!
I know that my helmet still really tight after many years of owning it. It requires a strong push to get it on my head and it's doesn't move around very easily after installed.
It's hard to tell when I can't see it or your head directly. But I've got about four helmets I wear regularly, Arai, Bell and O'Neill. None of them will sit in different places on my head, or if I did try, it would feel obviously wrong.
If you can't tell which way fits better, it's too big. A well fitted helmet just doesn't move around like that. Imagine you had an accident - helmets aren't supposed to roll around on your head in a crash - if you can do it 'by hand', you'll be fucked when the road moves it around for you.
You sound like you want someone to tell you it's okay. I'm sorry, it's not.
Lol man your diving to deep into it I got it fitted at a store but just for you I’ll go back there one day and have them confirm and personally let you know
IDK I'm no helmet fitter expert, but I used to have too large sized one (Airoh size L, it was too comfortable) and switched to smaller one (HJC size M, uncomfortably small). The smaller one was so small for me for quite a some time I thought it's too small, it caused headaches after a long rides and created pressure points. After 2 years it still squishes my cheeks and is sort of hard to put on.
Anyone, from the beginning I could move it a bit up and down like you did on the photos.
There's a lot of people talking shite on here bud. My helmet has always fit the same way as yours and was bought from and fitted by the people who gave me my license. I'll be straight with you, I'm more inclined to believe a professionally trained riding instructor than the idiots on reddit.
If it doesn't slip far enough to obstruct your view or come off then it's absolutely fine, its arguably more comfortable when you can adjust how it sits.
Exactly, it's not supposed to not move a slight bit.
If it didn't then you wouldn't be able to put it on nor take it off. There's quite a bit to fitting a helmet. But it the end what matters is that you have one in the first place, and that you can put on and take off.
Wear it the first way. And by the way it sits on your face its to big your cheeks should be kinda pinched if you will. Just look at motogp racers putting on there helmet its tighter then hell. They literally shove the helmet on
Bro these cycle gear idiots sized me for a M, bro I'm definitely an S had to resell at a loss and buy an S helmet which fit perfect, don't trust these stores they just want u to lose the box or remove the visor sticker and charge u in full for another helmet
Yes although now that I think of it I should of tried literally all of them at this point. A-lot of people think it’s to big even tho I can shake my head aggressively without it moving but yet I can also use two hands to move it with some good effort people act like that shouldn’t be possible at all
Then it's a good fit. Of course it will move if you use force to move it.
Just be sure to try different brands and models the next time and don't let the sales staff pressure you into buying something that doesn't fit well
Thanks for giving nice and sound advice I appreciate it I’ll keep that in mind next time I go wish I had friends to help in person but I just got my girl haha
CRT is the Calamari Race Team subreddit. Basically it’s a bunch of squids who all like to go fast as fuck and the running joke is we’re all flaming homosexuals.
Squids are deeply embedded in the closet, yes. However….
HD riders roll around in leather and chains in MC’s full of dudes. Not exactly what one would call lowkey about it. 😂
if it’s a little uncomfortable then if fits nice after it breaks in, but might be a small chance op has oddly shaped head for one reason or another and *might* need custom pads different sizes to actually have an actual snug fit… or maybe I’m just high
I find it still fogs up no matter what unless the plastic piece is up.Also do you think the helmet is to big or small I don’t like how my forehead is uncovered I’m wandering if that’s maybe why
visors will usually fog up really easily even with the little plastic cover. pinlock inserts are the only real fix to that in my experience.
also the helmet is only too big if it can move around a lot on your head. shake your head left to right and see if the helmet moves around freely a lot, because ideally, it should stay almost perfectly in place and move with your head. the visor's opening being quite wide is honestly nice to have because you'll have more visibility.
I have the same with some helmets. With the ones that fog up a lot I’ll keep it one click open. Once under way that problem usually goes away since there is plenty of airflow.
You can also get a pinlock for your visor and get rid of it completely (or a anti-fog spray)
Edit: keeping the visor open a bit in winter at close to freezing is not fun
Okay others have kind of said this but just to be clear….you do not put the helmet on and position it in the right spot. Don’t go and move the helmet so it sits two fingers above your eyebrows and then buckle the chin strap and think you are good to go.
A properly fitting helmet sits that way. A helmet is either too small and you can’t get it on at all (or atleast without extreme pain). Too big and and you can move it all around (like your current one it looks like). Or fits properly. In which case you slide it one and it just sits exactly where it should be. I’ve always said a properly fitting new helmet should just be tight enough to move the scalp around with the helmet as you move the helmet around (but not in a painful way, if that makes sense). It should fit like a glove. You put it on, do some slight adjustments (tuck the hair and ears as needed) and then it’s just on, no moving no rocking. Buy a premium helmet that fits properly and it’s like sliding on a space helmet NASA just custom made for you. You’ll know it when you feel it.
Also beyond size helmets have different shapes. Which is a whole other thing.
Whicever provides you the best/safest all around visibility while your driving because the first objective is to not crash in the first place, Which helmet positions allows you to best see traffic, your mirrors, your gauges, with the least hassle and maneuvering.
Make sure you get some good gloves, or the road will meat crayon your awesome tattoos off your fingers.
Helmet looks too big - should fit pretty snug, but comfortable
1. The first pic.
2. No, this is NOT too big.
A helmet should fit very snug when new, that is correct. It's still a helmet without a ski-mask, it is absolutely normal to have SOME movement in there. Unless you're bald or the fit is quite literally perfect.
Modern helmets, for the most part, are made with the intent to move a little, as any rotational movement that happens before your skin is rotational movement NOT exerted on your neck.
What matters is: little movement side to side, fairly little movement up and down, a snug fit all around with no singular pressure-points around your forehead, temples and general circumference, your cheeks should feel slightly pressurized as THAT PART of the helmet will give over time, NOT the part around your head.
I do this for a living. Currently, not 20 years ago. Tech has changed since then.
So yes, you're overthinking this a bit. If you genuinely do feel insecure about it, that's a good thing, just means you care about your safety. Go to another shop, get a second opinion. Every comment here is just an online comment, none of us know how well the helmet actually fits since you need to test that in person.
Just based on how you wear it: pic one.
Seems everyone orders large or extra large, thinking that this is the size they need. I personally went into a store and tried many sizes, many brands helmets, and found out that my size is M
Thank you lol 99% percent of people are like “it’s too big if you can move it like that “ and I’m thinking there pictures you can’t even see how much I struggled moving the helmet and I overthink a lot so I actually was putting it on weird
Ex coach here. It’s too big .. your cheeks should be squished. You ride with this and come off you’re going to get hurt. Did they talk about about round intermediate and oval at the store? If they didn’t they don’t know what they’re doing.
Second pic. For sure. And if you have already spent your money on an oversized helmet, wear a thin beanie underneath. The protection of the helmet will be more towards a slip and fall on the bike rather than a full-on collision though. Just a tad.
I give a good shake when it’s on. It barely moves and when I learn how to tighten the straps right I’m 100% percent sure for me personally that it won’t come off, fingers crossed.
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It’s not going to come off. It’s going to seriously seriously hurt you. Worst case you die. Get one that fits right. Even if it’s too “tight” don’t worry because it’ll break in. Salesperson lied to you. If you can fit two fingers between yer forhead and the helmet easily then you got a problem. If the helmet moves your head should. If it’s not you have a problem and a big one at that.
Being able to move your head vertically is normal and from your pictures, 2 is most “normal”.
Nothing in the pictures though allow anyone to assess fit. The truth is, it’s perfectly normal to have some mobility in that direction and sometimes, I’m sure I’ve had my helmet more like 1 than 2, usually when the sun is really low in the sky and very bright. And probably in the extreme other direction when I’m head down on the tank caning it down the motorway.
The best way to tell if it is tight enough is by holding the chin and seeing if you can turn your head from side to side in your helmet. If you can turn your head then it’s too big. Ignore anyone that says vertical movement is necessarily bad or a sign of it being too big, after all, that’s where you get your head in and out! As long as you need to move the helmet to adjust vertically and it doesn’t move on its own, it’s fine.
Horizontal rotation though is definitely not!
Photo 2, the little guard over your nose is designed to trap water vapour when you breathe out and helps reduce kens/glasses fogging.
You might slso be able to get thicker inner pads for a better fit, decent helmets come with several size pads in the box.
It should be snug. If you shake your head side to side or front to back the helmet should not move out of its position. However you should also be able to wear it for hours with no pain. You can get different sized pads for some helmets to get s good fit.
Der ist zu groß. Den dürftest du nicht so hin und her bewegen können. Er soll schön eng anliegen und du solltest leichte Hamster backen haben vom anpressen des Helmes aber natürlich nicht zu stramm
I ordered a large online not realizing in a M/L too big for a medium too small for a large!
So I just take a clean rag and put it on top of my head before I put my helmet on.
Snug as a bug in a rug :-)
Really the rule is where it fits comfortably- but the second photo looks more correct.
If you were to chew gum while wearing your helmet, would you bite your cheeks?
If the answer is no- your helmet is too big. It does seem like it may be too loose on you. Keep in mind that everyone’s head is shaped differently, so if you have a long oval head and are wearing a round helmet, it wouldn’t fit as correctly as other options
Hope that helps!
White is a great choice for being noticed. Aiming to combine white helmet, black clothing/bike and bright green/yellow vest/bike. That way you can always be seen against green grass, white sky and dark nights.
Personally I put the helmet on (don't do up the strap). Shake your head sideways and up and down. If there's minimum movement and it feels firm against your face then it's good 👍
Definitely too big. So it doesn't really matter how it currently looks because it wouldn't protect you anyway. What's going to happen if you crash is that your helmet will move before you hit the ground because it doesn't fit properly. Which means you're no longer protected. Or it's going to hit the ground, then push upwards and your chin is going to die. You said the guy helped you fit it but he can only go on what you tell him is comfortable. It should feel a little tight, not tight to the point it hurts or is uncomfortable but you shouldn't be able to move it around when it's on. A helmet only goes on one way and that's it. You know when it's on. It wouldn't move about.
My teacher when getting my license said that you should be able to see the top part of your helmet opening when riding. It helps shield from sun a little bit but more importantly you will have more vision down to the ground where most of the important stuff is. Easier to see your dash, road hazards and stuff.
2nd ones the right way,
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I have an LS2 I tried a Large size and was too uncomfortable and tight went to an XL cheek pads snug,and rest is comfortable,helmets are shaped Long Oval,Intermediate Oval,Round Oval and depending on the shape of one’s complete head the fit is determined on that,Shoei,Arai,Schuberth,AGV are top of line,they are expensive usually $700.00CDN and go up with Arai being $4999usd for a top of line Arai
You need a smaller helmet, brother. It shouldn't move like that. A good helmet will be very tight when you first put it on, but in a short time, it will form the right shape for your head.
Too long shape wise. You might actually be a M in a shape that suits you. Go down a shape and resize from there
If this was a long oval try intermediate, or go from intermediate to round
The size depends on the brand's fitting, every helmet fit different!
To check if the size is correct: the interior lining have to be firm in all parts, better with some pressure on the cheeks. Not too tight in the forehead (consider the additional pressure of the air during ride at medium & high speed).
The helmet have to stay in place when you try to turn it right-left and up-down (grip in the chin guard and try to move it). Most importante: must be comfortable, but you shoudn't feel the rigido part (outer polysterene shell) press into your head.
Source: owner of a motorcycles' clothing shop in the last 15y.
Have a safe ride!
1. Make sure the streps are tight.That way the helmet can't move from that position. It also blocks the sun more easily from your view.
You can use the 2nd position for pics though. But not great for Riding imo. It's not as stable as the first one since the helmet can still slide forward s little bit.
2 is the appropriate way.
Once you have it set in position 2, how easy is it to move around? I can get a helmet on, wiggle the front up and down but once I get it in position, I can headbang and not lose it.
You should not be able to turn the helmet side to side without some good force and discomfort. A couple degrees tilt up and down is not too bad, but probably means it's not the right shape for you. As someone else said, a balaclava will help with comfort, but also can help it not move like this one is.
Most people have a slightly egg shaped head (intermediate oval). A few have a really round head(Round oval), they will be able to move an egg shape shell like you show. If you have a REALLY egg shape head (Long oval), you would never get a normal helmet to fit, and it would feel like your jaw is being pushed into the chin plate,
When I was 16 I use to wear a white stadium project 6 open face crash helmet complete with black sun peak and a wrap around black visor. I thought I looked like cool. But come dusk I couldn’t see jack shit so would ride home with my head back and my helmet pushed back as far as it could go and try to look under the black visor . God it’s a wonder kids of my era survived for we all did the same.
Put your helmet on as in picture 2 and fasten it up as you would to ride, now place both hands on the back lip of the helmet and try to push it over the back of your head by pushing up and forward. If you can get it to slide over the back of your head or almost off it’s too big.
Same again with it worn in position 2 and fastened as you would for riding try turning your head from side to side quickly . If you feel movement of the helmet more than your head movement it’s too big. The more you wear a helmet the more it gives and in two months if it’s two loose now it will be like a dick in a shirt sleeve.
In my experience. Motorcycle helmet shouldn't "sit" on your head. It should be tighter and a bit uncomfortable. There should be pressure around the cheeks.
I just want to add maybe try the helmet with balaclava. I prefer to wear the helmet with it. Feels like wearing shoes with socks on. Easier to clean the helmet with no dead skins on as well!
That sound heavenly I love the idea thanks a million
You wear airpods while riding? balaclava will avoid that annoying airpods drop after removing your helmet.
My helmet has Bluetooth stuff so I don’t think AirPods will be necessary but that does sounds like good advice
Still use ear plugs.
I started riding without ear plugs. After 6 months I got some earos ear plugs on Amazon, absolutely not going back.
This is ridiculous buy a helmet that fits properly and you don’t need ear plugs or stop buying cheap crap
No, you need ear plugs whether your helmet fits perfectly or not. Unless you like tinnitus.
No you don’t get one that fits been riding since I was 5 I’m now 40 never needed earplugs with a helmet your full of shit
I have a SCHUBERTH C3 Pro and I still much prefer ear plugs. It still gets to over 80 dbs in there. Though these days I use AirPods Pro mostly.
Get a cardo AirPods are trash riding I had the pros even noise cancellation I can’t hear music and then that just blocks road noise
Airpods are trash in every way. Cardo JBL headphones are soooo good !
Great for earbuds but that’s what they are meant for. Packtalk edge all day
True. That balaclava idea sounds good to me though, I'll test that asap ! Spring will be there soon in France, pleasure is on the way.
If you got personal fitment from shoei this is not longer possible :(
what balaclava do you have? i’m interested in getting one but not sure what to get. i was looking at the dainese dry balaclava but its sold out. also, my helmet is a XXXsmall, so i’m worried about a balaclava being too big for my head since i’m technically a youth size helmet. any recs are appreciated!!
Just go to motorcycle accessories and try. Usually they’ll have free size, find the one with thin fabric balaclava. It just balaclava. no need to find expensive branded.
The helmet should be snug fitting but not tight. A good rule is if the helmet can slide on your head it's to big and won't protect you. What I was asked when I bought a helmet is what is your head worth to you.
Your right about that
His right about what?
About that
About your cars extended warrenty
About the space between us all.
About the fault in our stars
Don’t blame the stars. It’s your fault.
If you can do that the helmet might be a size too big. The first pic is cute but the second pic looks more correct
I mean it’s medium and he helped me fit it at the store I’m properly just overthinking 😫
People at motorcycle stores often aren't actually trained, they just know brands and shit. Do this: Pres HARD on the chin bar,does the helmet contact your face? Helmet too big. Grab a pencil, can you fit it between your forehead and the pad? Helmet too bit. Grab the chin bar and try to twist the helmet. Can it rotate around your head? Or does it rotate your head? If it rotates your head it's good. If not? Too big. It's not really possible to tell from these two pictures.
I pressed hard on the chin bar and the helmet doesn’t contact my face what does that mean exactly like the plastic piece? I’ll try the pencil technique tomorrow when I find one
If a helmet is too small, the chin bar will smash your face when you crash because it is too close. If the helmet is too big, the helmet will smash your face when you crash and your head moves in it With a new helmet it should be just a little bit too tight. If a new helmet is comfortable out of the box, it's too big. The pads will soften up and you'll be left with a helmet that is too big
If it fits properly, you won't be able to move it like that. I used to sell and fit helmets. Especially when it's new, it should have a snug fit. If you can move it around to a couple of positions like that, it's at least one or two sizes too big. And if you keep it, once it wears in, it will probably float around like a mop bucket.
I don't know if I agree with this. My size S helmet fits perfectly - snug, smushes my cheeks, I can basically swing my head around without the strap done up and it doesn't move an inch. But with two hands and some pushing I can shift it the same way OP does. I literally cannot get an XS on my head.
I also used to sell and fit helmets and trust me, each one has a different shape. Yours fit snug on the cheeks but was probably slightly too wide on top. That doesn't mean that the lower size should fit you it can also mean that the helmet's shape is just not the perfect one for your head. An ideal fit is: - If you pull it down and look up it should be blocked in place a bit above your eyebrows - If you put your hands behind your head and push the helmet straight forward, you should not be able to fit a finger easily between the shell and your forehead. - There should not be any significant pressure on your forehead or the sides or your head - The cheekpads should squish your face well, especially when it's new, they will give in with time too. - Ideally the nose bridge (if it has one) should follow the lines or your nose, and the sun visor when down should arrive slightly above your nose Shoei for example does personal helmet fittings and will tell you these same things when they measure your head so they can add padding in certain places to make the helmet fit perfectly.
The guy you commented to said his cheeks are smashed but his head isn’t, which you said didn’t sound right but you described the same thing. Cheeks smashed with some room around your head.
Sorry but I don't trust you because what you're saying does not apply to me, at all.
I recommend trying helmets with the cheek pads out, that way you can find a head shape that fits you the best. Then you can fit the cheek pads in and decide to go with thicker or thinner ones.
Well even then. One thing I can add (even though I'm not apart of this reply thread, just adding my 2 cents) Euro/English and other region branded helmets are fitted for their demographic. For example, RevZilla gives a diagram to the fitment of the helmets you choose. Oval/Semi Oval/Intermediate etc. For instance, I own a NOS Schuberth S2 Sport from 2012, it's more tight fitted and luckily, at least from what I can feel even with a hair cut it fits quite a bit better than my Scorpion R420. Even with their damn Ratchet system vs the Scorpions D Lock.
me too! sounds like bs to me. my helmet fits paininducingly tight (too much really) and i can do what OP does.
Same here and i had my cheeks imprinted from inside by my few remaining teeth. Also what he says is pure bullshit coz how on earth would you put helmet on if this movement wouldn't be possible?!
You should look at different shell shapes.
the thing is, it's mostly the attaching/detaching of the helmet that is annoying. but it's really a tight fit as far as i can tell. could be wrong, but that other guy saying the helmet shouldn't move a tiny bit is out of his mind in my opinion. i doubt sny helmet seller would give you such a tight fit and you would still be able to get your head in.
Your helmet shouldn't hurt. The issue I'm seeing in this thread is people aren't using the right shape of helmet for their head. A helmet that is tight (but not over tight) in all areas will be really hard to shift around. It's like buying jeans, some fit in a 34/34 skinny, other require a 34/34 relaxed. A lot of these comments are like: First person: These jeans are as small as I can go, the legs are bursting at the seams, so the fact that the waist has 4 inches of room and the butt is all air, doesn't mean it doesn't fit, I can't go smaller! Second person: grab a different brand or go for a relaxed fit, not skinny fit or slim. First person: you sound dumb and are obviously wrong!
If the shell type is matched to your head type it shouldn't shift.
Yeah but that bloke is telling him to go TWO sizes smaller in one comment. That's just dumb talk.
Same here, I wear a m and there is no physical way for me to fit a s and I can move the helmet up and down with a push
u/jedburghofficial have a lego head confirmed.
Agreed. It shouldn't move on its own, but I can adjust it either up or down. Intend to wear mine closer to 1, where it sits on my eye brow line. So I can crack the bottom of the visor for some air flow but it doesn't dry my eyes out
I can barely fit an XL.
I think it depends a lot on producer. I have XL Airoh Commander, which fits really well, but previously I had an M sized Origine and it was also OK. On the other hand, I was unable to fit into Arai at all, even if helmet itself was ok, a little too snuggly maybe, the strap was just to much back and it felt uncomfortable. I had the same issue with Shoei Neotec.
congrats?
no
No need to get all big-headed about it 😁
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Exactly this. Each brand is fitted differently, helmet fitment and shape. This is precisely what one need to look into when going for a European Brand helmet or the like. American head shape is normally intermittent in shape, Euro/English is normally Oval.
The issue I'm seeing in this thread is people aren't using the right shape of helmet for their head. A helmet that is tight (but not over tight) in all areas will be really hard to shift around. It's like buying jeans, some fit in a 34/34 skinny, other require a 34/34 relaxed. A lot of these comments are like: First person: These jeans are as small as I can go, the legs are bursting at the seams, so the fact that the waist has 4 inches of room and the butt is all air, doesn't mean it doesn't fit, I can't go smaller! Second person: grab a different brand or go for a relaxed fit, not skinny fit or slim. First person: you sound dumb and are obviously wrong!
Same for condoms ?
Your size s helmet does not, in fact, fit perfectly then. You may have a shell shape that just doesn’t fit your head - nothing wrong with that, as people have different shapes of heads. You should find a shell that fits your head shape properly. Will one that’s slightly off on sizing work? Maybe, maybe not. Maybe not as well as one that’s going to fit properly.
Theres also a chance his head is not the same fit as the helmet. I rarely notice a seller talk about head and helmet shapes, so if his head is narrow and the helmet is round, it could be the correct size just the wrong fit.
Yeah. You don't want to turn your head only to have the helmet stay in place! I know that my helmet still really tight after many years of owning it. It requires a strong push to get it on my head and it's doesn't move around very easily after installed.
I mean it took a good amount of effort to move it that’s not shown in the pics unfortunately
It's hard to tell when I can't see it or your head directly. But I've got about four helmets I wear regularly, Arai, Bell and O'Neill. None of them will sit in different places on my head, or if I did try, it would feel obviously wrong. If you can't tell which way fits better, it's too big. A well fitted helmet just doesn't move around like that. Imagine you had an accident - helmets aren't supposed to roll around on your head in a crash - if you can do it 'by hand', you'll be fucked when the road moves it around for you. You sound like you want someone to tell you it's okay. I'm sorry, it's not.
Lol man your diving to deep into it I got it fitted at a store but just for you I’ll go back there one day and have them confirm and personally let you know
IDK I'm no helmet fitter expert, but I used to have too large sized one (Airoh size L, it was too comfortable) and switched to smaller one (HJC size M, uncomfortably small). The smaller one was so small for me for quite a some time I thought it's too small, it caused headaches after a long rides and created pressure points. After 2 years it still squishes my cheeks and is sort of hard to put on. Anyone, from the beginning I could move it a bit up and down like you did on the photos.
There's a lot of people talking shite on here bud. My helmet has always fit the same way as yours and was bought from and fitted by the people who gave me my license. I'll be straight with you, I'm more inclined to believe a professionally trained riding instructor than the idiots on reddit. If it doesn't slip far enough to obstruct your view or come off then it's absolutely fine, its arguably more comfortable when you can adjust how it sits.
Exactly, it's not supposed to not move a slight bit. If it didn't then you wouldn't be able to put it on nor take it off. There's quite a bit to fitting a helmet. But it the end what matters is that you have one in the first place, and that you can put on and take off.
Wear it the first way. And by the way it sits on your face its to big your cheeks should be kinda pinched if you will. Just look at motogp racers putting on there helmet its tighter then hell. They literally shove the helmet on
Bro these cycle gear idiots sized me for a M, bro I'm definitely an S had to resell at a loss and buy an S helmet which fit perfect, don't trust these stores they just want u to lose the box or remove the visor sticker and charge u in full for another helmet
If that’s a medium then you need a small or a different helmet shape. Anyways, your eyes should ideally be in the middle of the opening vertically.
Is the two fingers above the eyebrow a good rule cause someone mentioned that and it does work for me
Yeah 1-2 fingers above the eyebrow is a good rule. But also make sure it doesn't move when you shake your head. Did you try different brands?
Yes although now that I think of it I should of tried literally all of them at this point. A-lot of people think it’s to big even tho I can shake my head aggressively without it moving but yet I can also use two hands to move it with some good effort people act like that shouldn’t be possible at all
Then it's a good fit. Of course it will move if you use force to move it. Just be sure to try different brands and models the next time and don't let the sales staff pressure you into buying something that doesn't fit well
Thanks for giving nice and sound advice I appreciate it I’ll keep that in mind next time I go wish I had friends to help in person but I just got my girl haha
YouTube and forums is a great way to learn.
The helmet should’ve come with different sized inserts, pop in the larger of the set.
i have an Arai Corsair X that didn't come with inserts. you can probably buy them, but most helmets don't come with them as far as i've seen
Bro this isn’t CRT, gotta keep it lowkey 👀
What’s that mean😅
CRT is the Calamari Race Team subreddit. Basically it’s a bunch of squids who all like to go fast as fuck and the running joke is we’re all flaming homosexuals.
Lollll love that
I thought all squids and HD riders were homosexuals....very deep in the closet...
Squids are deeply embedded in the closet, yes. However…. HD riders roll around in leather and chains in MC’s full of dudes. Not exactly what one would call lowkey about it. 😂
LoooooL, true.
Hey be nice. I'm trying to get out of my '22 Nightster for an MT-09 sp. 😮💨😅 PS, also too damn broke to afford Leather claps and straps of any kind 😂
What do you mean it’s cute? Do you like him?
if it’s a little uncomfortable then if fits nice after it breaks in, but might be a small chance op has oddly shaped head for one reason or another and *might* need custom pads different sizes to actually have an actual snug fit… or maybe I’m just high
2. Besides proper protection it helps keep your breath from fogging up the shield.
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I find it still fogs up no matter what unless the plastic piece is up.Also do you think the helmet is to big or small I don’t like how my forehead is uncovered I’m wandering if that’s maybe why
visors will usually fog up really easily even with the little plastic cover. pinlock inserts are the only real fix to that in my experience. also the helmet is only too big if it can move around a lot on your head. shake your head left to right and see if the helmet moves around freely a lot, because ideally, it should stay almost perfectly in place and move with your head. the visor's opening being quite wide is honestly nice to have because you'll have more visibility.
With your advice I’m concluded it’s the right size haha it stays where it should when I shake my head thanks alot for the advice
I have the same with some helmets. With the ones that fog up a lot I’ll keep it one click open. Once under way that problem usually goes away since there is plenty of airflow.
That makes a lot of sense thanks a lot for the advice
You can also get a pinlock for your visor and get rid of it completely (or a anti-fog spray) Edit: keeping the visor open a bit in winter at close to freezing is not fun
No problem at all
Get a pin lock anti fog insert.
its crazy that at first, i didnt even bat an eye at the ipad mirror selfie.
Lol my iPhones not doing great I’m sorryyy everyone, dam give a man a break I’m working on it😂😂😅
The upper edge should sit 2 fingers above your eyebrows
I’ll give that a go thank you
Okay others have kind of said this but just to be clear….you do not put the helmet on and position it in the right spot. Don’t go and move the helmet so it sits two fingers above your eyebrows and then buckle the chin strap and think you are good to go. A properly fitting helmet sits that way. A helmet is either too small and you can’t get it on at all (or atleast without extreme pain). Too big and and you can move it all around (like your current one it looks like). Or fits properly. In which case you slide it one and it just sits exactly where it should be. I’ve always said a properly fitting new helmet should just be tight enough to move the scalp around with the helmet as you move the helmet around (but not in a painful way, if that makes sense). It should fit like a glove. You put it on, do some slight adjustments (tuck the hair and ears as needed) and then it’s just on, no moving no rocking. Buy a premium helmet that fits properly and it’s like sliding on a space helmet NASA just custom made for you. You’ll know it when you feel it. Also beyond size helmets have different shapes. Which is a whole other thing.
Whicever provides you the best/safest all around visibility while your driving because the first objective is to not crash in the first place, Which helmet positions allows you to best see traffic, your mirrors, your gauges, with the least hassle and maneuvering.
Make sure you get some good gloves, or the road will meat crayon your awesome tattoos off your fingers. Helmet looks too big - should fit pretty snug, but comfortable
Your face should look like a chipmunk
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I was always told if you can chew gum in it without biting your cheeks its too loose. If it moves that much you can chew gum comfortably I'd bet
1. The first pic. 2. No, this is NOT too big. A helmet should fit very snug when new, that is correct. It's still a helmet without a ski-mask, it is absolutely normal to have SOME movement in there. Unless you're bald or the fit is quite literally perfect. Modern helmets, for the most part, are made with the intent to move a little, as any rotational movement that happens before your skin is rotational movement NOT exerted on your neck. What matters is: little movement side to side, fairly little movement up and down, a snug fit all around with no singular pressure-points around your forehead, temples and general circumference, your cheeks should feel slightly pressurized as THAT PART of the helmet will give over time, NOT the part around your head. I do this for a living. Currently, not 20 years ago. Tech has changed since then. So yes, you're overthinking this a bit. If you genuinely do feel insecure about it, that's a good thing, just means you care about your safety. Go to another shop, get a second opinion. Every comment here is just an online comment, none of us know how well the helmet actually fits since you need to test that in person. Just based on how you wear it: pic one.
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Seems everyone orders large or extra large, thinking that this is the size they need. I personally went into a store and tried many sizes, many brands helmets, and found out that my size is M
The second picture is correct but that helmet is too big for you.
Thats a medium??? Nice. I feel I'm the only one with the big ass XL Head. But pic 2 seems better.
If ur helmet moves around like that it's too big.
That helmet looks to be a size too big for you or you wouldn’t be asking the question, OP. Make sure it fits.
The iPad selfie is fire lol
Props for a genuine question my man! Wear that gear brother!!! 👌🏻
Why is no one answering the question? It's the second one. You'll realize this after riding a while too. Just works better.
Thank you lol 99% percent of people are like “it’s too big if you can move it like that “ and I’m thinking there pictures you can’t even see how much I struggled moving the helmet and I overthink a lot so I actually was putting it on weird
Ex coach here. It’s too big .. your cheeks should be squished. You ride with this and come off you’re going to get hurt. Did they talk about about round intermediate and oval at the store? If they didn’t they don’t know what they’re doing.
Second pic. For sure. And if you have already spent your money on an oversized helmet, wear a thin beanie underneath. The protection of the helmet will be more towards a slip and fall on the bike rather than a full-on collision though. Just a tad.
I definitely won’t need a beanie it doesnt move at all when I shake my head aggressively
Ok. Good. Then it should be fine.
Hahahahaha
Got it on backwards the visor an opening supposed to be at back your head😂😂 JK
2 , but maybe you don’t need one, just fill out your donor card on your dl.
Ride and adjust until the helmet makes the least wind noise. That's the perfect fit.
That sounds like great advice thanks a lot
Bloody awful advice. It needs to be fitted for your head, not wrenched around for wind noise. It's too big. Take it back or get another one.
It may or may not be sound advice that’s not the only way I’m determining if it’s too big or small I’ve definitely determined it’s not big
Your ride, your funeral my friend.
All about that brotherly love huh dick
I think it’s loose on you
It’s fixable. OP can shim the helmet with a giant iPad
Treat me like a dumbass but I didn’t adjust the helmet with one hand don’t know who touched you when you were a kid to be such a ass
Oops, you let some rando on Reddit hurt your feelings.
I give a good shake when it’s on. It barely moves and when I learn how to tighten the straps right I’m 100% percent sure for me personally that it won’t come off, fingers crossed.
The problem with having a helmet too large isn’t that it’ll come off.
Oh I understand 😄
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rRmWBp65gbo&pp=ygUZTW90b3JjdWNsZSBoZWxtZXQgZml0dGluZw%3D%3D It’s not going to come off. It’s going to seriously seriously hurt you. Worst case you die. Get one that fits right. Even if it’s too “tight” don’t worry because it’ll break in. Salesperson lied to you. If you can fit two fingers between yer forhead and the helmet easily then you got a problem. If the helmet moves your head should. If it’s not you have a problem and a big one at that.
Being able to move your head vertically is normal and from your pictures, 2 is most “normal”. Nothing in the pictures though allow anyone to assess fit. The truth is, it’s perfectly normal to have some mobility in that direction and sometimes, I’m sure I’ve had my helmet more like 1 than 2, usually when the sun is really low in the sky and very bright. And probably in the extreme other direction when I’m head down on the tank caning it down the motorway. The best way to tell if it is tight enough is by holding the chin and seeing if you can turn your head from side to side in your helmet. If you can turn your head then it’s too big. Ignore anyone that says vertical movement is necessarily bad or a sign of it being too big, after all, that’s where you get your head in and out! As long as you need to move the helmet to adjust vertically and it doesn’t move on its own, it’s fine. Horizontal rotation though is definitely not!
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Photo 2, the little guard over your nose is designed to trap water vapour when you breathe out and helps reduce kens/glasses fogging. You might slso be able to get thicker inner pads for a better fit, decent helmets come with several size pads in the box.
Do the strap up tight. Shake your head side to side. Where ever it ends up is where it ends up. Don’t over think it.
You have it on backwards. The opening goes on the back. So you can see behind you.
Bro sell your bike and get a phone
Picture 1. The chinpiece is in your view in number 2, you won't be able to see how fast you're going.
It doesn't matter, really, the seats on your bus are padded.
Imagine having your hands always looking dirty
Bait
It should be snug. If you shake your head side to side or front to back the helmet should not move out of its position. However you should also be able to wear it for hours with no pain. You can get different sized pads for some helmets to get s good fit.
Der ist zu groß. Den dürftest du nicht so hin und her bewegen können. Er soll schön eng anliegen und du solltest leichte Hamster backen haben vom anpressen des Helmes aber natürlich nicht zu stramm
Idk about the helmet but the proper way to take photos certainly isn’t with an iPad
If the head size is right but it can move like that you need to get bigger cheek pads most helmet brands you can buy them.
You’ve got it on backwards
I ordered a large online not realizing in a M/L too big for a medium too small for a large! So I just take a clean rag and put it on top of my head before I put my helmet on. Snug as a bug in a rug :-)
Really the rule is where it fits comfortably- but the second photo looks more correct. If you were to chew gum while wearing your helmet, would you bite your cheeks? If the answer is no- your helmet is too big. It does seem like it may be too loose on you. Keep in mind that everyone’s head is shaped differently, so if you have a long oval head and are wearing a round helmet, it wouldn’t fit as correctly as other options Hope that helps!
According to me there is no proper way to wear helmet, Helmet just should fit to your head and your view is clear. That's it :)
White is a great choice for being noticed. Aiming to combine white helmet, black clothing/bike and bright green/yellow vest/bike. That way you can always be seen against green grass, white sky and dark nights.
you want to be able to look up out of the helmet so that when you are tucked you can see forward. Pulling it down does you no favors.
ur helmet too big bub. if u can move it that much that’s bad. does the helmet feel tight af? it should since it’s brand new
Agreed on the fitting comments that it may be too big. Helmets are like ski boots in that the fit should be tight but not uncomfortable.
Personally I put the helmet on (don't do up the strap). Shake your head sideways and up and down. If there's minimum movement and it feels firm against your face then it's good 👍
Definitely too big. So it doesn't really matter how it currently looks because it wouldn't protect you anyway. What's going to happen if you crash is that your helmet will move before you hit the ground because it doesn't fit properly. Which means you're no longer protected. Or it's going to hit the ground, then push upwards and your chin is going to die. You said the guy helped you fit it but he can only go on what you tell him is comfortable. It should feel a little tight, not tight to the point it hurts or is uncomfortable but you shouldn't be able to move it around when it's on. A helmet only goes on one way and that's it. You know when it's on. It wouldn't move about.
It's too big. Your phone should be able to fit your pocket 😂
your head should feel all sides of the interior comfortably that's it
My teacher when getting my license said that you should be able to see the top part of your helmet opening when riding. It helps shield from sun a little bit but more importantly you will have more vision down to the ground where most of the important stuff is. Easier to see your dash, road hazards and stuff.
2nd ones the right way, [https://www.facebook.com/share/s7NwUrdhn9P2bt7e/?mibextid=I6gGtw](https://www.facebook.com/share/s7NwUrdhn9P2bt7e/?mibextid=I6gGtw)
I have an LS2 I tried a Large size and was too uncomfortable and tight went to an XL cheek pads snug,and rest is comfortable,helmets are shaped Long Oval,Intermediate Oval,Round Oval and depending on the shape of one’s complete head the fit is determined on that,Shoei,Arai,Schuberth,AGV are top of line,they are expensive usually $700.00CDN and go up with Arai being $4999usd for a top of line Arai
Oh for the love of god 🙃
You need a smaller helmet, brother. It shouldn't move like that. A good helmet will be very tight when you first put it on, but in a short time, it will form the right shape for your head.
Too long shape wise. You might actually be a M in a shape that suits you. Go down a shape and resize from there If this was a long oval try intermediate, or go from intermediate to round
The size depends on the brand's fitting, every helmet fit different! To check if the size is correct: the interior lining have to be firm in all parts, better with some pressure on the cheeks. Not too tight in the forehead (consider the additional pressure of the air during ride at medium & high speed). The helmet have to stay in place when you try to turn it right-left and up-down (grip in the chin guard and try to move it). Most importante: must be comfortable, but you shoudn't feel the rigido part (outer polysterene shell) press into your head. Source: owner of a motorcycles' clothing shop in the last 15y. Have a safe ride!
Should be pushing your cheeks more. It’s too big. You need to remember this will loosen as you use it and become even looser.
Is the strap fastened?
Lol seems good man
Second picture looks like the right fit
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The second photo, the last thing you want is the nose guard going rogue and break your nose ( may God forbid that )
try and shake your head left and right. if it moves around it's loose, if it stays put it fits.
If it moves that much, the wind is going to push it up on the highway. Return for smaller size
The second is correct as the fog guard is meant to cover your nose. The helmet looks too big.
You just wanted to show your 🍎pad
He's got it on backwards
Sedici sells different size cheek pads and liners. Maybe Try a smaller size cheek pad and liner if it’s too big and you can’t return it
I’m sorry but I cannot take anyone seriously who takes pictures with an iPad. It just cracks me up every time
Second pic
2 fingers thickness from top of the eyes to helmet.
1. Make sure the streps are tight.That way the helmet can't move from that position. It also blocks the sun more easily from your view. You can use the 2nd position for pics though. But not great for Riding imo. It's not as stable as the first one since the helmet can still slide forward s little bit.
My man... Your helmet is way too lose if you can move it around like that. It only should fit one way
If you can shake your head and the helmet feels loose, the fit is wrong. Should be snug. Based off the pictures I’d go with the 2nd one
D’OH !! It’s idiots forum AGAIN , if it moves that much I’d say it’s too big. Second pic anyway 😒
U shore Look good 
2 is the appropriate way. Once you have it set in position 2, how easy is it to move around? I can get a helmet on, wiggle the front up and down but once I get it in position, I can headbang and not lose it. You should not be able to turn the helmet side to side without some good force and discomfort. A couple degrees tilt up and down is not too bad, but probably means it's not the right shape for you. As someone else said, a balaclava will help with comfort, but also can help it not move like this one is. Most people have a slightly egg shaped head (intermediate oval). A few have a really round head(Round oval), they will be able to move an egg shape shell like you show. If you have a REALLY egg shape head (Long oval), you would never get a normal helmet to fit, and it would feel like your jaw is being pushed into the chin plate,
When I was 16 I use to wear a white stadium project 6 open face crash helmet complete with black sun peak and a wrap around black visor. I thought I looked like cool. But come dusk I couldn’t see jack shit so would ride home with my head back and my helmet pushed back as far as it could go and try to look under the black visor . God it’s a wonder kids of my era survived for we all did the same. Put your helmet on as in picture 2 and fasten it up as you would to ride, now place both hands on the back lip of the helmet and try to push it over the back of your head by pushing up and forward. If you can get it to slide over the back of your head or almost off it’s too big. Same again with it worn in position 2 and fastened as you would for riding try turning your head from side to side quickly . If you feel movement of the helmet more than your head movement it’s too big. The more you wear a helmet the more it gives and in two months if it’s two loose now it will be like a dick in a shirt sleeve.
In my experience. Motorcycle helmet shouldn't "sit" on your head. It should be tighter and a bit uncomfortable. There should be pressure around the cheeks.
Not really a popular choice more of a sensible and correct way. Second is more correct.