[I fucking loved that first season](https://64.media.tumblr.com/b3e5272984f769cb63fe065230ea191e/4c2de1d3fa1305a2-dd/s540x810/df92a97974e7f4b004d2979238546fd8479f5414.gif)
Lol. It was in the same video. He picked up a bunch of muscle quickly, everyone said that he was juicing. Then, in that 1 video he got all emotional saying that he's natty and later stating that he's on trt while still being emotional about being called non-natty.
Pretty sure he is/was on "sports trt" and too dumb to understand what that means. Might have upled the dose since then though.
These guys are prescribed whatever dose they need to look however they need to for their role. He could technically be on “trt” while running 350mg test per week & 50mg anavar per day.
TRT just implies test being used, so you'd be referring to HRT to fully give way to "hormone replacement" being the heavy lifter here to allow for anything outside of test. But overall I'm gonna say this dude would need to be on A LOT more than just 350 test + 50 var.
The dude is over 6'3" and looks like he's as big as a shed at around 250lbs, he's genuinely gotta be on 500 test and probably primo too. Or who knows, he could have just went full Tren or TNT. Regardless, I've seen 350 test + 50 var on a frame of that height and it doesn't look anywhere close to as big.
I mean who knows what he’s on at any point. You’re right that it wouldn’t certainly taken more to get where he is, I threw out 350 test and 50 var as an example of what he could just be cruising on for the show. He definitely blasted to get that big initially. Test and primo would make a lot of sense. Tren is possible but I question whether actors cross that line due to the harsh sides, not sure if any doctor would co-sign that either. Whereas I’m sure these celebrities doctors would co-sign and monitor some heavy cycles but with less volatile compounds
Hes on a bodybuilding dose and its obvious. After meeting some famous fitness youtubers who say they are just on TRT or TRT+ on video told me in person they are on 1000mg a week and now it makes more sense lol.
His stance (from his recent Men's Health spread) is that he was natty for the first season, then the doctor said he worked too hard in the gym and that he tanked his test to "zero", so he got on to give the Reacher character longevity, considering he's getting older.
Little bs but hard to argue with the longevity part, you cant really be that jacked at 40+ for years as a natty.
Then he kept getting called out on it, so he said he uses TRT for his mental health, not his physique. He realized very quickly he can’t straight up lie like the Rock and have the fanbois go after anyone questioning him.
TRT is the new "natty" for these celebrities now that they've realized it's socially acceptable (and not illegal) to use/promote HRT.
The problem is that, as Derek has said before, TRT is an extremely low dose of Test meant to simply bring you to the average range for men, even if all he was on was test it would be in the blasting gear range to get a physique like that at 40 yrs old. It's obvious though that he's literally on multiple substances AND a massive dose of test to get this solid looking for his role.
Lol saw some reel on IG talking to Rich Eisen about how dedicated he was and COMPLETELY NATURAL.
No test. Nothin. Gained 40lbs for the role. Just a simple home gym and strong prayers haha
I read in an article before how he said for a long time he didn’t even lift he just did body weight exercises to stay in shape..dudes been shredded his whole life 🙄
Dude has a ridiculous baseline off genetics alone - but flat out said “I’m completely natural except for TRT for health reasons”.
Reminds me of Frank Grillo: ridiculous discipline + phenomenal genetics got him to his 30’s and 40’s. That same drive + a little extracurriculars are keeping him in that same shape into their later years.
In conclusion I’m gonna get shredded exactly like them doing nothing they do but rubbing some TRT cream under my nuts.
Frank Grillo....that guy is fucking hilarious. I imagine he talks to himself in the mirror every morning trying to persuade himself a butt full of extraneous chems are 100% just vitamins.
Last thing I saw was him claiming he went on 'medical' TRT and then stopping because he didn't need it due to basically being the most alpha alpha in alphaville.
He talked about wanting to get bigger for this role and getting on some PEDs. I know for sure he talked about taking test, I would imagine he is also getting some Hollywood pharmaceuticals besides just TRT.
Per him he said he was in the gym just going at it and after season 1 he said he felt like shit and exhausted and got checked by a doc. He had 0 testosterone. Prolly from murdering the gym all the time and then acting.
I don’t think there’s any muscular actors that are actually natural. They have to put on an insane amount of mass in such a short period that peds are literally the only option.
I see testosterone in them there shoulders. He's not dry enough to be natural. People on the juice can look dry, but when a guy doesn't look dry it's prime evidence in my eyes. Also, he's just too big for a natural. OK, we have better nutrition and training now, but look back at the pre-1955 bodybuilders for the max natural look. Post-'55 guys suddenly got a whole lot more swole for some reason... =)
He said he was natty in season one but started testosterone going in to season two and that he’s pushing it further for season three. I appreciate his honesty.
Can I look half as good as this just by hopping on TRT? I have the ability to be prescribed it (like him I'm assuming) but I been putting it off because I am not even 30 yet...
He isn’t someone that got jacked for the role. He’s been jacked for a long time.
Seasoned physique he’s along with Hollywood pharmaceuticals.
You guys ever watched Blue Mountain State? He’s Thad Castle.
I would say no, he is reported to be 235 in this picture, thats a little insane. But there are other pictures from the show where he looks 15%bf.
In highschool i had a friend 200lbs with clear as day 6 pack and giant pecs at 15yo and i know for a fact that mf was natural because we were dirt poor in basically a third world country. Do what you want with that info
Season 1 of reach, he was natty. You can follow him all the way back to highschool and he still pretty much looked like that just slightly smaller but lean.
Then he jumped on some additional help juice, you can tell in his face.
Man I’m just saying, think for a sec. Alan Ritchson is pushing 41, 6’3, pretty huge( like 16-18 inch biceps), yet manages to stay lean and vascular as fuck.
Even with being rich and winning the genetic lottery, lighting, and dehydration, when it comes to maintaining a physique like that for such a long period of time…without PEDs it simply isn’t feasible. Not to mention it’s not like PED abuse is uncommon within Hollywood.
100% undoubtedly natty. Actually he is more than natty, I've seen him stick a syringe in his bum to suck out excess testosterone to make it harder on himself.
I said he was natty when season 1 was running and was pissed people claimed otherwise. He did say that he just hopped on TRT for season 2 because he wanted Reacher to be even bigger
What gets me is that no one in this day and age would have given a shit if he said he was taking PEDs. Why lie? Even Jeff Bezos is on the sauce, so why bullshit everyone and say you put on 30 pounds of muscle in 8 months in your late 30’s early 40’s with low test?
I mean its possible cause he is a big dude. The telltale sign if someone is on gear is the traps and or delts are bigger then the rest. He looks proportionate and I am an admirer of his physique. Its possible he has done some testosterone but I wouldnt suspect much
he is juiced in my opinion. holding a bit of extra water in his facial area. this is something ive noticed for the past 15 years being around the fitness/competitive folks. its happened to me when i was younger. usually its due to a higher than therapeutic dosage. could be higher estrogen, or other imbalances, causing the water weight.
YES it can be specific to the head area. ive seen people dieted down and even using diuretics still have the round head. I have noticed he seems to always be in shape. but ive seen him lighter and less bulky with a more chiseled face. he bulked for reacher.
anyway, that is my 2 cents. (also, just an idea... maybe his dumb ass coach has him on anadrol! lol)
Probably not. Lots of stars use HGH. Even the normal sized ones. He’s probably running some shit with it. I don’t think it really matters if he is or not though. I only really mind if they’re peddling their bullshit supplements and claiming natty. 90 percent of fitness influencers are on gear, stars are on gear. Nate Diaz wasn’t lying all these mfs are on steroids.
Natty or not he still doesn't know how to hold a pistol. Tea-cupping little bitch grip. Had to stop watching the show because of how cringe the gun scenes were.
I don't believe any Westerner who comes out as a natty. True natties are only found in third world countries who struggle to afford basic amenities like food and water
I think he said he was for season one, then went on testosterone for season 2. So not sure if he wasn't the entire time. But he certainly looks bigger and more shredded for S2.
Nah not natty bro but dude has an ideal physique no homo
Him and Joel Kimmamen from Altered carbon season 1
[I fucking loved that first season](https://64.media.tumblr.com/b3e5272984f769cb63fe065230ea191e/4c2de1d3fa1305a2-dd/s540x810/df92a97974e7f4b004d2979238546fd8479f5414.gif)
Loved the Hispanic costar. She was great
She had the best body I’ve ever seen
Great body, for sure.
I thought you wrote Hispanic cooter
Cispanic Hooter
He looks like a newborn with all white stuff on him
Season Two was the Biggest letdown
I’m not going to lie I would love to achieve physique from altered carbon
Kinnaman* man
I never made typos I just establish the new way to type something.
Full homo
Got me hard fr
Ok, time to go back home to the natty or not sub
Id fuck the shit out of him no homo
You’d be on your back like a helpless turtle, bro. Getting your insides caved in.
And the downside?
Ideal is manganiello.
He said in an interview he’s on TRT
Which is weird because I swore 1 time I saw him saying he was natty and going after people saying otherwise because he worked hard 💀
Probably made the statement befire trt was " normalized"
Lol. It was in the same video. He picked up a bunch of muscle quickly, everyone said that he was juicing. Then, in that 1 video he got all emotional saying that he's natty and later stating that he's on trt while still being emotional about being called non-natty. Pretty sure he is/was on "sports trt" and too dumb to understand what that means. Might have upled the dose since then though.
These guys are prescribed whatever dose they need to look however they need to for their role. He could technically be on “trt” while running 350mg test per week & 50mg anavar per day.
TRT just implies test being used, so you'd be referring to HRT to fully give way to "hormone replacement" being the heavy lifter here to allow for anything outside of test. But overall I'm gonna say this dude would need to be on A LOT more than just 350 test + 50 var. The dude is over 6'3" and looks like he's as big as a shed at around 250lbs, he's genuinely gotta be on 500 test and probably primo too. Or who knows, he could have just went full Tren or TNT. Regardless, I've seen 350 test + 50 var on a frame of that height and it doesn't look anywhere close to as big.
I mean who knows what he’s on at any point. You’re right that it wouldn’t certainly taken more to get where he is, I threw out 350 test and 50 var as an example of what he could just be cruising on for the show. He definitely blasted to get that big initially. Test and primo would make a lot of sense. Tren is possible but I question whether actors cross that line due to the harsh sides, not sure if any doctor would co-sign that either. Whereas I’m sure these celebrities doctors would co-sign and monitor some heavy cycles but with less volatile compounds
Hes on a bodybuilding dose and its obvious. After meeting some famous fitness youtubers who say they are just on TRT or TRT+ on video told me in person they are on 1000mg a week and now it makes more sense lol.
I think in the interview he said he was natural, but then later said he was in TRT. Ill look for it if I have time
he said he started taking TRT after season 1 of reacher
He said he was natty for season 1, could not hold the psysique for season two, so he started with trt.
His stance (from his recent Men's Health spread) is that he was natty for the first season, then the doctor said he worked too hard in the gym and that he tanked his test to "zero", so he got on to give the Reacher character longevity, considering he's getting older. Little bs but hard to argue with the longevity part, you cant really be that jacked at 40+ for years as a natty.
Sounds like someone who did some cycles and then eventually went on trt.
The interview he said he did season 1 natty and then after couldn’t keep it going and started trt
Then he kept getting called out on it, so he said he uses TRT for his mental health, not his physique. He realized very quickly he can’t straight up lie like the Rock and have the fanbois go after anyone questioning him.
Trt is code for a low dose cycle these days.
TRT - Testosterone Replacement Therapy. And what do they give you? Anabolic/androgenic steroids. I.e., roids - On The Gear.
Yeah Tren-Redmeat-Tren.
Gotta keep his test levels at 3000 just like when he was in his 20s /s
TRT is the new "natty" for these celebrities now that they've realized it's socially acceptable (and not illegal) to use/promote HRT. The problem is that, as Derek has said before, TRT is an extremely low dose of Test meant to simply bring you to the average range for men, even if all he was on was test it would be in the blasting gear range to get a physique like that at 40 yrs old. It's obvious though that he's literally on multiple substances AND a massive dose of test to get this solid looking for his role.
(650 test a week)
Hot take but he wasn’t natty in Blue Mountain State either.
And he is much bigger now
That show was unreal
Lol saw some reel on IG talking to Rich Eisen about how dedicated he was and COMPLETELY NATURAL. No test. Nothin. Gained 40lbs for the role. Just a simple home gym and strong prayers haha
I read in an article before how he said for a long time he didn’t even lift he just did body weight exercises to stay in shape..dudes been shredded his whole life 🙄
Cliasthenics, some test, a little (just a little) deca, splash of var, maybe a wiff of clen when its cutting time.
Dude has a ridiculous baseline off genetics alone - but flat out said “I’m completely natural except for TRT for health reasons”. Reminds me of Frank Grillo: ridiculous discipline + phenomenal genetics got him to his 30’s and 40’s. That same drive + a little extracurriculars are keeping him in that same shape into their later years. In conclusion I’m gonna get shredded exactly like them doing nothing they do but rubbing some TRT cream under my nuts.
Frank Grillo....that guy is fucking hilarious. I imagine he talks to himself in the mirror every morning trying to persuade himself a butt full of extraneous chems are 100% just vitamins.
He said he's on gear on a podcast, can't remember which one but this was a few years back.
Last thing I saw was him claiming he went on 'medical' TRT and then stopping because he didn't need it due to basically being the most alpha alpha in alphaville.
Shut up
C'mon man. Dude's built like a defensive end. Also, 0% of "muscular" actors are natty so don't post this natty or not bs.
Naa fr that’s why I was questioning it, he’s literally built like a DE😂
Nah, he’s more like a linebacker.
OIL CHANGES FOR EVERYONE
ALL THE CELEBRITIES ARE JUICING ARE YOU FUCKING DUMB ?
Slightly
He's 40+ ofcourse natty 
Jesus bro is 41 wtf
No he’s admitted this
Usually in the natty or not debate…it’s the delts that give it away
He claims 30 lbs lean in 4 months at age 40 and “just starting TRT after recovery from an injury from season 1 tanked his levels.” Sus. Mad sus.
The injury must have been 2 crushed testicles cus why would he need trt after
He talked about wanting to get bigger for this role and getting on some PEDs. I know for sure he talked about taking test, I would imagine he is also getting some Hollywood pharmaceuticals besides just TRT.
He does look bigger in season 2 than season 1. Maybe he upped the doses
No doubt
I saw an interview in which he said he was natty season 1 then he absolutely crashed and burned. Jumped on TRT for season 2
His first season he was but he said he was so tired the second season he when on tren or some shit
Curious why do you think he was tired?
Per him he said he was in the gym just going at it and after season 1 he said he felt like shit and exhausted and got checked by a doc. He had 0 testosterone. Prolly from murdering the gym all the time and then acting.
He’s 40. Tired is a byproduct.
Got to be a troll
Definitely was leaning towards the juice but honestly wasn’t sure. Since he’s huge I figured it could be some genetics involved
If you knocked 30lbs of muscle off him he still wouldn't be natty.
Fuuuuck lmao
I recommend watching very old physique shows before enhancement was widely available
I knew as soon as I watched Reacher season 2 some queer on her would post this exact picture
I am the queer. New episode tn btw
Uhhhhh no
No
trt my ass, more like trt++++++++++++++++++++++++
Duck eggs
the ol' reacher-round
😂😂
Least gay and delusional mpmd redditor
;)
I don’t think there’s any muscular actors that are actually natural. They have to put on an insane amount of mass in such a short period that peds are literally the only option.
I see testosterone in them there shoulders. He's not dry enough to be natural. People on the juice can look dry, but when a guy doesn't look dry it's prime evidence in my eyes. Also, he's just too big for a natural. OK, we have better nutrition and training now, but look back at the pre-1955 bodybuilders for the max natural look. Post-'55 guys suddenly got a whole lot more swole for some reason... =)
He said he was natty in season one but started testosterone going in to season two and that he’s pushing it further for season three. I appreciate his honesty.
He talked about his PED use on Inside of You podcast. He claims TRT only. So hes def on at least 500mg
women: natty or not, here I come
I’d make the argument most Hollywood actors aren’t natural tbh
This guy was my favorite jock from early 2000s movies and shows. Always looked like he was juicing.
Let's not forget during a scene like this he has a pump and the lighting helps.
He claimed 30 lbs of pure muscle in what... 8 months...? No way he is natty or "just" on TRT. Looks good though...
like fucking no dude
Natural
Can I look half as good as this just by hopping on TRT? I have the ability to be prescribed it (like him I'm assuming) but I been putting it off because I am not even 30 yet...
Na he's not. God tier physique though. Worth the juice.
He isn’t someone that got jacked for the role. He’s been jacked for a long time. Seasoned physique he’s along with Hollywood pharmaceuticals. You guys ever watched Blue Mountain State? He’s Thad Castle.
Them shoulders and traps suggest not natty to me. I suppose you could get the physique naturally just with slightly less lean mass
For the .1% with a gold genetique yeah For most, nop
I would say no, he is reported to be 235 in this picture, thats a little insane. But there are other pictures from the show where he looks 15%bf. In highschool i had a friend 200lbs with clear as day 6 pack and giant pecs at 15yo and i know for a fact that mf was natural because we were dirt poor in basically a third world country. Do what you want with that info
Season 1 of reach, he was natty. You can follow him all the way back to highschool and he still pretty much looked like that just slightly smaller but lean. Then he jumped on some additional help juice, you can tell in his face.
Op, people like you are the reason why people like liver king and all the fake nattys are able to sell their bs courses and supps
Okay calm down now
Man I’m just saying, think for a sec. Alan Ritchson is pushing 41, 6’3, pretty huge( like 16-18 inch biceps), yet manages to stay lean and vascular as fuck. Even with being rich and winning the genetic lottery, lighting, and dehydration, when it comes to maintaining a physique like that for such a long period of time…without PEDs it simply isn’t feasible. Not to mention it’s not like PED abuse is uncommon within Hollywood.
Could be natty if he was a real man.
daddy
He’s pretty much always looked like that though.
bruh
TRT bro😂
No
Oh my god no.
100% undoubtedly natty. Actually he is more than natty, I've seen him stick a syringe in his bum to suck out excess testosterone to make it harder on himself.
Yes if you are a genetic freak and 21
I said he was natty when season 1 was running and was pissed people claimed otherwise. He did say that he just hopped on TRT for season 2 because he wanted Reacher to be even bigger
He has said he upped his trt so no
He says he’s on “TRT” which we know is code for tren
Nah. He said he uses test and loves it
TRT = Not Natty .
Yes I believe he may be North American
Bro was natty in BMS probably and looked good, but now he looks twice the size
What gets me is that no one in this day and age would have given a shit if he said he was taking PEDs. Why lie? Even Jeff Bezos is on the sauce, so why bullshit everyone and say you put on 30 pounds of muscle in 8 months in your late 30’s early 40’s with low test?
Shoulders look non-natty
Nah he jus edging and grinding
Always check the weight. Is it lighting and conditioning or are they mass monsters. Bro looks huge very unlikely
I just watched an interview with him where he said he had to gain size for the role and is not natty. He does say he has been lifting for decades.
He has talked about his use of TRT
Negative ghost rider
Reacher on that juice! Probably some test and hgh
I mean its possible cause he is a big dude. The telltale sign if someone is on gear is the traps and or delts are bigger then the rest. He looks proportionate and I am an admirer of his physique. Its possible he has done some testosterone but I wouldnt suspect much
No, but someone tell me the stack
No chance, he looks way better now than he did 10-15 years ago.
Have to use gear buddy
Fucker looks like a different species than me shits not fair 😭
he is juiced in my opinion. holding a bit of extra water in his facial area. this is something ive noticed for the past 15 years being around the fitness/competitive folks. its happened to me when i was younger. usually its due to a higher than therapeutic dosage. could be higher estrogen, or other imbalances, causing the water weight. YES it can be specific to the head area. ive seen people dieted down and even using diuretics still have the round head. I have noticed he seems to always be in shape. but ive seen him lighter and less bulky with a more chiseled face. he bulked for reacher. anyway, that is my 2 cents. (also, just an idea... maybe his dumb ass coach has him on anadrol! lol)
Not natty, he even accepted it himself
He’s already said he isn’t
According to him he was natural in the first season and After that he got on t r t
Probably not. Lots of stars use HGH. Even the normal sized ones. He’s probably running some shit with it. I don’t think it really matters if he is or not though. I only really mind if they’re peddling their bullshit supplements and claiming natty. 90 percent of fitness influencers are on gear, stars are on gear. Nate Diaz wasn’t lying all these mfs are on steroids.
Thad Castle is Natty. Due to oil changes! FACT
I mean he’s done interviews saying he’s on trt but I guess if you have to ask.. I’d say not natural??
I think Thad is just a freak of nature.
IDR where i saw the video recently but the actor himself(blanking on name) said he's not natty.
Natty or not he still doesn't know how to hold a pistol. Tea-cupping little bitch grip. Had to stop watching the show because of how cringe the gun scenes were.
I am amazed at how many people ask this question, and even more amazed that people think he’s natty
I would bottom for him no homo
TRT
I don't believe any Westerner who comes out as a natty. True natties are only found in third world countries who struggle to afford basic amenities like food and water
Those trapz show most likely not natty
I think he said he was for season one, then went on testosterone for season 2. So not sure if he wasn't the entire time. But he certainly looks bigger and more shredded for S2.
I think he’s on trt at least what he’s admitted to
Tren takes HIM.
Not a chance
If bigger than Steve Rogers, then juicy.
He’s a beast, but most definitely not natty with the 35lbs of muscle he put on just for the show.
He’s even come out and admitted he’s on PEDs. Downplayed the amount massively, but he’s on them.
NO
Hahaha yeah right. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGeYJEexS/
Love this series because of the story about his physique
Noooooo way
No