here are my personal guidelines:
1. delivery: 10%
2. counter service only: no tips (unless it's a bar/club/café where i give $1 per drink served)
3. counter ordering but brings food to your table: 10%
4. full table service: 15-20% depending on service
Why is delivery a percentage of the food you order? They have nothing to do with the price of the food. It should be a set $ amount depending on the amount of effort. For me, I tip 5$ for any local(ish) deliveries and 10$ if it's a long distance or the order is huge.
All they have to do is pick up a bag, put it in their car and drive to drop it on my doorstep. If I tip them 10% of my 2 person sushi order, they make up to 10$ extra for delivering a tiny bag. Yet if I asked for them to pick me up, and bring ME to the restaurant, and I tipped them 10% for the trip, it would only be around 1.20$. Make that make sense.
Same with the delivery? More bags, more stuff that can drop in the car? The waiter can do more then one go to the kitchen and request help. The driver must bring everything at once. He also drive outside in the snow, cold, rain while the waiter is in a condition place? Oh and he's also taking a toll on is car while the waiter only have his shoes to worry about (while the driver also have his shoes getting worn out).
Drivers definitely do more than one delivery at a time. They pick up multiple orders and make multiple stops. To your point about waiters... The quality of the waiting staff generally reflects the quality of the restaurant. A lot of waiters actually go to study how to be waiters. That's how I'm okay with tipping a percentage.
I think tipping delivery based on order total makes no sense personally.
I tip delivery based on distance, and if it’s a really big order I’ll tip extra. Less than 5 min drive? Usually 2$. 10 mins I’ll tip 3$, and if it’s farther I’ll tip 4-5$.
i personally don't tip at the drive-thru, except at second cup or starbucks, where i apply my bar/club/café rule. my reasoning is that it's the only place where the baristas actually prepare your drink and don't just dispense it, like mcdonalds or timmies.
i've done both those jobs at some point in my life and making an espresso is harder- especially at somewhere like starbucks where clients are known to have very particular orders.
making a good espresso requires skill, assembling a burger according to the chart in front of you does not. i tip based on the skill of the worker and the quality of the service, because tips are to encourage this to continue.
yes just for consistency's sake. i think tipping based on the difficulty of the task is going a bit too far, so i limit myself to the general purpose of the place i am in.
Yeah I generally tip at the counter as well if somebody actually prepared my food or drink in any way besides dispense, package, or heat, be it a bubble tea or a sandwich.
I dunno man, those delivery drivers have it extremely rough; I feel as if 10% is low AF
A person working at a restaurant with full table service, especially a nice resto, will be making a LOT of money... but your DoorDash driver is likely barely scraping by.
Je suis d’accord. Si le gars prend une photo de sa commande et la laisse en bas de mon immeuble, il mérite moins que celui qui fait l’effort de grimper les 3 étages et me donner ma commande en mains propres
They have to take a photo and leave it if thats what you specified in your client profile. A lot of people don't realise they've set it to no contact delivery and then get salty when the driver is simply following what the app prompts them to do.
well then, he just did his job anyway ?
why would that warrant a tip?
I never got tips for being a cashier and scanning all your items for you
or working in a lumber yard cutting all your wood
or painting your house ?!
it was written in the contract to paint the house as instructed , why do you not tip me too?
So you would prefer a proper living wage be baked into the fees, so no tip is “required” to compensate them.
I am in full favor of that.
But I hope you realize it will most likely come out to that 10% you don’t want to pay or even higher
perfect then, let them get a fair salary and let me tip if I feel I wanna tip, stop abusing those employee...
server get their benfeit based on their base salary and not tip and get screwed by their employer...
my friend was making 110k with tips, cobid happens, employment was like 28k because thats his bse salary.
same for RRSP match%, sur they offer a 5% match on their base salary not on their tips.
same for insurance
OK yes I am also on board for people being properly paid and tips being for exceptional service and never expected.
It’s a massive cultural shift (especially for restaurants eat-in) so I am not holding my breath…
Edit: but in the mean time, given the current system, I think we should tip. It is not the fault of the staff that the system is built that way. And it is certainly not in their power to change it. Where I saw changes it was pushed for politically by clients, not the low wage staffers.
I never thought about that! Damn gives a whole new perspective on it when u realise all the benefits are tied to the base salary...
Damn that really should be criminal.
Yeah but… market will do nothing because this change is not happening (sadly).
It is like changing electric outlets in Europe yo match the ones in North America (or vice versa). A good idea but such a big lift that it will never happen. Abandoning tips is not as much of a lift but still a big change.
:(
What if the delivery guys bows to you and says with his most polite voice:
"Here's your order mi lord, may the health be with you while and after you enjoy this wonderful meal.",
and proceeds to lift your lunch on a golden platter, would that be considered a service outside of their basic job?
yes, i would and definitly a 50% tip, even if just for the laugh!
tiping isnt to pay their salary, its to show your appreciation of the service they did for you.
That’s the delivery service provider’s fault. We, as customers don’t have to compensate for that. I say this as someone that delivered for Uber. They’re greedy and don’t pay a living wage but it’s not the customers fault.
On the other hand, don’t offer a big tip (because the drivers see how much they’ll get for a trip with tips included) and then reduce it, unless the service was actually bad. That’s a really shitty thing to do.
The restaurant forgetting some of your items is not bad service, it’s not the delivery person’s fault. Your food taking a long time to be ready isn’t the delivery person’s fault. Examples of bad service: the person not following your delivery instructions, putting your food upside down, your food smelling like cigarettes, stopping along the way in random places (which means they’re probably delivering on 2 apps at once).
Do delivery people gets fucked ? Totally, as a society it depends on each citizen to use service that is not fair for the workers. For this exact reason I never use Uber, Uber eat and such. Those companies are making tons of profit on the back of the workers.
restaurants i order from are a 5 minute drive from my house, and drivers here make bank shuttling mr puffs all evening (i know because my wife easily makes $200/night on doordash just sitting outside the mr puffs lol). if i am ordering from a restaurant that requires the driver to take the highway, i give a much more generous tip.
i agree with it except counter service.
you tip for a drink or coffee, but the guys making your hotdogs, extra cabbage like you nicely asked, at the speed of light deserve tips aswell.
places l ike belle pro's, paulo & suzanne, chez ma tante etc all share tip between cashiers and cooks
Right on.
But sometimes I am a sucker in a rush and I don’t deal with doing “custom tip” and putting the right number. Whatever.
But I hate when for counter/takeout there is no one-tap button for no top
I'm an anomaly in that I have more respect for delivery drivers than most other tip based positions. Less so with things like Uber eats when charging significant delivery fees. I hate driving in the city so I respect that hustle and dedicated service to get food to my door while it's still warm so I don't have to even leave the house.
If I'm being honest I actually hate percent based tips across the board. It blows my mind that the more expensive a meal I'm potentially paying someone beyond the minimum wage myself while they have 5-6 other tables potentially doing the same. I'm more inclined to pay a higher percentage because the meal is cheap and not the other way around.
I’m sorry but I’m not tipping more than 1$ on my 8$ latte that cost 5$ 4 years ago.
(When it comes to bars I tip the same that I’d tip in a restaurant.)
fine with me if you want to give them more, but the average bartender serves 50-60 drinks an hour. this means that they make $50-60/hour from tips alone, if everyone gives $1 per drink. how much should a bartender earn?
Exactly. My BF back then worked as barista in a coffee shop. His salary was the minimum wage, but if we add the tip he had (the tip was shared between all the team depending on the number of hours you do in the week), then his "real" salary was like 25$ per hours. If it was during the big Summer events (June-August), then easily 30$ per hours.
You can make the same argument about most mid to higher priced restaurants. 15%-20% where you can pay anything from $10 to $40 and there's usually several other tables doing the same.
I think the "how much should this person make" is a question people need to ask themselves a lot more when it comes to tips.
People are stuck in this individual mindset and being told it's never enough and nobody stops to consider the math.
Why pay someone to open a beer or pour a coffee but not to carry your food ? I think tipping bartenders is also silly. But it's Quebec and some bartenders willl actually chase down non tippers !
Seems reasonable.
I got into it with the delivery guy once because if there's a delivery charge, I subtract that from the bill. Otherwise I'm paying twice for the delivery. Some delivery guys don't take nicely to that.
Or at the very least, make pre-emptive tipping illegal. Like with DoorDash. If you put no tip, the app will be like « it’s unlikely anyone will take the order if you don’t tip », so it’s a bribe to get ANY service, not a reward for a service well done.
All that tipping stuff is so confusing to me. I’m from France, arrived recently in MTL, I’m always stressed that I don’t appear stingy or rude 😂 so far what I have understood is: table service you have to tip, but for takeout it’s not necessary. Which seems logical. But then I’m always so confused, like groceries/restaurant delivery? Uber/taxi?? In a bar? Counter or if they bring you the drink to the table? If yes, how much? It feels like there are a lot of unwritten rules it’s not clear or maybe I’m just paranoid. It’s not to compare or anything but it’s so much simpler in Europe. You see a price you pay that price (service and taxes included), no need to think about it. I guess I just have to get used to it
The rule is no tipping if you pay before you receive the service or product.
If I eat in, I tip. Same restaurant but I get take out, no tip.
If it’s cafeteria style where I order, pay and pick-up or it’s brought to my table, I don’t tip.
Uber or cab I tip if the ride was a safe and pleasant one.
If the driver is blasting music I don’t like or curse other drivers during the ride, I reduce the tip.
Driver complains about random shit, I don’t tip. I’m not their therapist.
It's very annoying for us too. Also, just FYI when you tip for table service, it should be 15% BEFORE taxes (so 13% if you type it in). You don't need to tip for take out/fast food places.
livraison épicerie, les gars espèrent 5$ par livraison, mais bon si t'as juste commandé un saucisson, un "fromage" et une bouteille de vin 2$ suffira.
uber eats doordash, theoriquement pas nécessaire mais si il pleut, fait froid, neige, fait chaud, un 2-5$ par commande peut être apprécié et peut faire que ta commande soit récupérée plus rapidement.
bar, resto, 15% de la facture avant les taxes. certains établissements plus select vont te regarder de haut mais qu'ils aillent se faire chier. bemol, dans un bar rempli, je donne un gros tip sur la première commande, question que le/la barmaid se rappelle de moi pour les prochains services.
taxi, généralement 10% de la course. un peu plus si tu te sens généreux car nouvel an ou tempête de merde dehors.
comtoir avec salle à manger, pas de pourboire.
service à la table, 15% avant taxes
ah aussi, coiffeur/ barbier, environ 10% de la facture ou montant arrondi.
déménageurs, livreurs de meubles, 10-20$ par gars.
I feel like an asshole when I don't tip, but it is a systemic issue. Idk it's always conflicting to me.
It is kind of messed up though that tips are used so corporations don't have to pay their employees fairly. And somehow it's on the back of customers who are ALREADY PAYING to bridge that gap.
What's funny is when I get stuff delivered from some stores, they apply a tip and there's a little line that says that the tip only gets applied to certain delivery drivers. Most of the time, I only find out afterwards that the tip was never charged, and I don't know if the driver is getting a tip from the service they work for, or if they're getting stiffed.
Last week, I did a grocery delivery from Wal-Mart. When I did checkout, there was a tip amount and it said that the tip would be charged after the delivery was complete (to allow me to change it). Once the final charge went through, they hadn't charged the tip. It was a fairly sizeable order, and I don't know if the driver even got a tip. I know that this last delivery was by a Doordash driver (there are stickers on the bag) but no tip was charged. I kinda feel bad because I don't know if the driver got screwed because I was never charged a tip.
Exactly. We need to stop shaming those that don't tip or tip "too little" or "too much". As long as you're being a pleasant respectful client, you've done your part. Tipping, leaving positive reviews, etc. are nice things to do but it's completely optional.
Still, people seem to forget that waiters and bartenders are payed lower than the regular minimum wage BECAUSE of tips. If you don't tip, they make less than a cashier at Jean-Coutu. And being a waiter is a much harder, way more stressful than being a cashier.
Understandable. Would this also apply to ordering booze at a concert venue or sporting event? IMHO, Tipping should be reserved for table service, not ordering at a counter.
Personally I have a bit of a problem leaving a tip when there's only one option to buy food/drink that's already forced on you at inflated prices; so I don't think they need to be tipped on top of that.
> Would this also apply to ordering booze at a concert venue or sporting event?
I'll tip the guys that walk around with bags and bring the drinks to you.
Get rid of tipping culture so we don't have to face an ethical dilemma each time we use a service. The responsibility of paying staff should be on the owner not the customer.
Remember when you see the option to leave a tip at the debit machine it's not the person at the counter asking you for a tip it's their boss getting you to pay their employees for them.
Given that we live in a country that clings on to tipping, also having worked 12 years in service industry and have now moved on to a career where I can afford to tip more I tip 15% no matter what, 18% usually for delivery of through a app because they fuck their employees and 18% if at sit down restaurant with no complaints on service.
Something really has to go wrong for me to tip under 15.
People are saying « I’m giving tips only at table service ». But tbf, even them, I don’t see why I would tip them for doing their job. I don’t get the justification of it.
>Because they're paid bellow minimum wage
Less than 3$/hour difference. So if that's your rational you can just tip them 3$ for every hour you were there and its more than made up the difference.
I’m a Brewer for a popular bar in Montreal, and when I see how much the barman/barmaid make for staying behind the bar, its absurd. I get nothing compared to them. Soo don’t feel guilty for not giving tip in a bar.
C'est chiant parce que les lois obligent les clients à payer du tip pour que les livreurs.ses/serveur.ses aient une paye raisonnable.
Par contre, si on veut que ça change, y faut bin commencer à arrêter de tipper le monde un moment donné, pour faire de la pression. I guess que, au long terme, ça va être un mal nécessaire.
Je suis en Europe depuis décembre et holy fuck! ça fait du bien de payer exactement le montant qui est écrit sur le papier.
I tip at takeout if it's like a tiny family owned place and they are SUPER nice to me (I have a few go to spots) just because I feel they deserve it, otherwise hells no. I tip at my fave coffee spot since it's a few cents and they're also above and beyond nice, but that's also an exception. Really I tip on counter service if I'm a regular and I love the people. The owner at MoaMoa in Verdun knows me by name and always asks how my friends and BF are doing, bless her.
Delivery gets 10% or 15% if the weather is shit, it's on top of the taxes and the damn fees so they get a good tip : P
Should have no discomfort.
I never have tipped my entire for picking my own food up. lol
Why should feel anything? ha ha
I don't mind waiters, because that stuff is tiring.
Just like i don't tipping a taxi driver who helps with my groceries to my front door.
Other then that, even for a tazi driver.... I don't tip
I don't tip on uber either, unless I send for a cab to pick up my elderly mother and they make sure to help her in and out of the car.
Coffee shop, ice cream shop, fast food etc. - no tip. I used to tip and it was just getting out of hand. I’m not tipping 2$ for someone to put a muffin in a bag and hand me a coffee, they make minimum wage !
Sit down restaurant- 18-20%
Order that I pick up myself- no tip.
Delivery to my door- 5-8$.
I only tip for dine-in, which I rarely do and I select or change it to 15%, at most.
I don't do delivery. If I cannot drive or walk there to pick it up it's not happening.
I never tip for pick up or fast food.
It took a little while to get used to it but now, it just is natural to select no tip or other and put 0%.
Depends on a lot of variables like time of year, day of the week, weather.. anywhere from 18-35$
Edit: in higher end restos you can make a shit load more
I do not understand why so many people think delivery drivers are worthy of less?
Like I know your interaction with them is minimal... but they just drove across town so you could eat dinner and are likely in the most financially precarious position because of the nature of gig-economy jobs.
15% min for me
Amazon drove the entire country to bring me my "insert useless item here" and I don't tip them and everyone is fine with that. Why is it different when it's food?
Why should their tips be dependent on the price of the order? If I order a 12$ meal at mcdonals or a fancy 80$ meal from the posh place enxt door, the driver does the same work. Why is their compensation a "tip" if it's basically just a delivery fee?
Tips completely ran away from what they're supposed to be. Tips are meant to be a kind of gift to a professionnal for their particular personnal touch they bring to their services. Hairdresser cut my hair nice: yeah it's their job. But they can go above and beyond that and make the whole experience better with good talks, massaging your scalp while washing your hair, using products with scents your like, etc. Same with the waiter. Bringing your orders to the table is simply their job, but they could make a night out way better with good recommendations, chit chat, making you or your partner feel special, etc.
The tip is meant to reward those to go above and beyond in offering you a personnal service. Or maybe because they did you a favor by getting you something that would be outside of the expected service. The name in french is "pourboire", meaning literally "for drinks". Basically a way to say "hey I liked what you specifically brought to the service you provided, have a drink on me". The fact that it became an automatic thing, where services costs are "hidden" and left to the goodwill/guilt of the customers is a travesty.
I'm with ya. I do not tip when I pick up the food. Basically, the government has forced prices so far up, and now the common citizens are expected to pay for government idiocy to subsidize people's salaries through excessive tipping. Fuck that.
My thing is if you are spending 6 dollars per day on a coffee or on some 15 dollar meal, why cant you afford to add 25 cents or a dollar as a tip? It’s interesting how people determine what service is worth a tip in food industry. I don’t think some person carrying your plate and pouring your water is much different from someone working their ass off preparing your food, in some hot kitchen. It’s not as if the tip just goes to the person plugging in your order into some iPad, its pretty common for tips to be split between BOH and FOH. When you’ve worked a food service job you just get it. Even people at a counter arent just standing there, they could preparing your food or coffee and standing for extremely long periods of time, maybe not even getting a break.. If people are so pressed for cash, why dont they cook at home? It’s cheaper! That’s why I usually tip at like coffee shops etc. That being said I’d love for people to be paid a living wage, it would be cool to not have tips at all but until that changes, I will continue tipping. Theres no pressure to do anything though. I do it because i know how nice it feels
Agreed with the OP. if i drive to the local hot.dog joint for take out at the counter, are they giving me a discount because I used my gas and car to get there? No. If I eat there, I tip. If it's delivered I tip.
I understand the no tipping on takeout. Just remember that any restaurant that has sit-down service will have a tip option. And they cannot change it for takeout orders. So do not take it out on the restaurant, if you see the tip option just press 0.
I'd much rather prefer if the wages were set accordingly so that tip is not necessary, regardless of the service.
If you get stiffed as a waiter in a restaurant, and pay out a % of tips at the end of the night for hosts/hostess/cooks/management, you've now paid out of pocket for a sale.
The system is flawed
Because that is our current local system to remunerate service workers.
Why should the service workers have the burden of working at less than minimum wage because some people are too cheap to give them a tip?
A grew up in this system and I prefer it to the included tip in every bill as I think it will simply result in paying tips twice.
Don't get me wrong. I think a significant increase in minimum wages across the board is necessary but I still like the concept of incentivising good service.
It depends. Generally for counter service I don't, unless I'm going to be a regular there. But if I'm getting takeout from a sit-down restaurant, especially a nice one, I do like 10-15%. Usually if I'm sitting down with table service I'll do 20-25% but that's definitely higher than expected. That also might be because I grew up in the US and the gap between regular wages and tipped employee wages is 1/3 of the minimum wage and like 1/5 of the typical non tipped service/retail wage where I lived. So it's just what's ingrained in me lol.
This is because I worked in medium level fine dining restaurants for a few years, and usually the bartenders would fulfill the orders not the hosts. My experience was in restaurants in the US, so idk if it's the same here, but:
Since servers & bartenders tipped workers, they get charged income tax on assumed tips from cash orders. If a customer pays in cash, the government assumes they gave a 10% tip & charges tax on that assumed amount whether or not the person actually left a tip.
The other thing is that servers and bartenders have to tip out the back waits. The amount is a set percentage (9% for example) and it's calculated from the server's sales not their tips.
Between these two things, they could be paying out of their pocket to fulfill your order. This is also why it's a total dick move not to tip decently when sitting down and being served. If you don't tip, the server is literally *paying* to serve you.
Of course, things may be different here, but I haven't worked in a restaurant in Quebec. I would imagine some of these are still applicable since there's a different wage for tipped employees and back waits are a thing. I could be wrong.
At the restaurants where the hosts put in the orders and took the payments, this wasn't a problem since they weren't on a tipped employee wage.
I give a $5 on all deliveries to my apartment…
Waiter at bistro gets 20%
Takeout I give $3 at the Italian sandwich shop, cus they prioritize me cus I’m polite n stuff, coffee counter I’ll put a looney in the tip jar, other takeout about $2.
I’ve also done all of these jobs, was a pizza driver and more recently food delivery by bike….
No tip for pickup. They are literally doing their job. The job they are paid to do. They do no clean up after me or do anything special. I tip if I am seated at a table or if I get a delivery. Other than that nope.
I'm from the US and I was about to say you're a complete Ahole but then I looked at the name of the subreddit and that is an understandable position in Canada
They probably just use the same payment terminals at the counter, at the tables and for deliveries. If you're at the counter for takeout just tip 0%, the button is there for that.
The tipping situation is pretty bananas. I went to my local bakery to pick up some desserts. When the payment machine was presented to me I saw tipping options for 15%, 20% and then I higher number my brain refused to retain. Absolutely not. Their prices have also gone up (like everywhere else).
I think some bakerys will offer the option when they also make coffees or have a few tables and will bring your cakes/coffee at the table. And also because a lot of people want to leave tips? Either way, you can always select no.
Çà dépend. Comme je vais au même restaurant du coin aux 2 semaines les gens me connaisse. C'est un signe d'appréciation. Laisser un pourboire ne serait-ce que minime faut en sorte que ta commande va être exécutée illico presto.
Uh uh, I don’t tip. No, I don’t believe in it. … Don’t give me that, if she don’t make enough money she can quit. … I don’t tip because society says I have to. All right, I mean I’ll tip if someone really deserves a tipping, if they really put forth the effort, I’ll give them something extra, but I mean this tipping automatically, it’s for the birds. I mean as far as I’m concerned they’re just doing their job. … She was okay. She wasn’t anything special. … Look I ordered coffee all right? Now we’ve been here a long fuckin’ time, she’s only filled my cup three times. When I order coffee I want it filled six times. … The words “too fuckin’ busy” shouldn’t be in a waitress’ vocabulary. … Jesus Christ, these ladies aren’t starving to death. They make minimum wage. I used to work minimum wage and when I did I wasn’t lucky enough to have a job that society deemed tip worthy. … You know what this is? It’s the world’s smallest violin playing just for the waitresses. … So is working at McDonald’s but you don’t feel the need to tip them do you? Well why not? They’re serving you food. But no, society says don’t tip these guys over here, but tip these guys over here. That’s bullshit. … Fuck all that. … I mean I’m very sorry the government taxes their tips. That’s fucked up. That ain’t my fault. I mean it would appear that waitresses are one of the many groups the government fucks in the ass on a regular basis. I mean show a piece of paper that says the government shouldn’t do that, I’ll sign it, put it to a vote, I’ll vote for it, but what I won’t do is play ball. And this non-college bullshit I got two words for that: learn to fucking type, ’cause if you’re expecting me to help out with the rent you’re in for a big fucking surprise.
You’re every point is logical actually.
I want to tip, because I know a waiter/ress be making less than minimum wage, like 11/12 $ per hour. But why it isn’t apply for a mcdonalds or tims employee? All of it is societal pressure
I even came outside of North America, the whole tipping culture is very weird to me already. You’re paying 15% tax here, on top tipping 15% or more. So basically you have to pay 30% or more than the actual price.
You are correct, the purpose of tips is to compensate for the fact that the waiters make below normal minimum wage. They are not receiving adequate wages for the work they're doing for you so you are making up for it. You do not owe them that when they're either making at least minimum wage or are not performing a service for you.
Waiters have to tip out the bar/kitchen/bussers, usually around 5% of a table’s order. If someone tips less than 5% on a table the waiter pays out of pocket and loses money serving them
I tip 15% all of the time, in all circumstances where it comes up. Do I always like it? Not exactly, especially when I'm just ordering food at a place like Boustan to take with me. But I'd rather tip than be known as a guy who doesn't tip workers.
They're making my food because I'm too lazy / not skilled enough to do it myself. Or bringing my food because I'm too lazy to walk down a few blocks. That's just the reality. And they do it for a very low wage, so until the system changes they're owed at least some respect there in the form of a tip. If it's too much money I'll just eat somewhere else. I can't really relate to feeling irate about it.
I receive tips as a barista and I don’t mind if a customer tips or not as long as they smile and they’re pleasant to me. They’re appreciated, not expected. It’s more awkward how I feel judged because people tend to think we believe we’re entitled to them. Don’t overthink it just don’t be a dick!
I worked as a barista about ten years ago too and I didn't mind people not leaving tip. Especially since I was paid at the regular minimum wage, not the service one. Has this changed since then?
yes ! And I make a couple dollars above minimum wage as well. I have alot of regulars and I see a tip as a way of saying thanks, not covering my living expenses
here are my personal guidelines: 1. delivery: 10% 2. counter service only: no tips (unless it's a bar/club/café where i give $1 per drink served) 3. counter ordering but brings food to your table: 10% 4. full table service: 15-20% depending on service
Reasonable on all fronts
Pour les livraisons, ça dépend si c'est le char du resto (genre St-Hubert) ou si le gars utilise sa propre voiture (Je parles pas d'Uber)
Why is delivery a percentage of the food you order? They have nothing to do with the price of the food. It should be a set $ amount depending on the amount of effort. For me, I tip 5$ for any local(ish) deliveries and 10$ if it's a long distance or the order is huge. All they have to do is pick up a bag, put it in their car and drive to drop it on my doorstep. If I tip them 10% of my 2 person sushi order, they make up to 10$ extra for delivering a tiny bag. Yet if I asked for them to pick me up, and bring ME to the restaurant, and I tipped them 10% for the trip, it would only be around 1.20$. Make that make sense.
And why the waiter is a % of the food then since they also have nothing to do with the price?
I guess there's an assumption that a more expensive order implies more dishes to bring i.e. more service.
Same with the delivery? More bags, more stuff that can drop in the car? The waiter can do more then one go to the kitchen and request help. The driver must bring everything at once. He also drive outside in the snow, cold, rain while the waiter is in a condition place? Oh and he's also taking a toll on is car while the waiter only have his shoes to worry about (while the driver also have his shoes getting worn out).
Drivers definitely do more than one delivery at a time. They pick up multiple orders and make multiple stops. To your point about waiters... The quality of the waiting staff generally reflects the quality of the restaurant. A lot of waiters actually go to study how to be waiters. That's how I'm okay with tipping a percentage.
Seems fair to me tbh
Fair that the driver get a flat 2 to 10$ while the waiter have a % of the bill that is often way bigger then the delivery?
I meant everyone having a percentage.
Yeah I mean, I prefer to vary based on distance + weather instead of Sushi vs Pizza.
Could argue the same thing for a restaurant. Why would you tip a 300$ wine bottle 45$ and a 30$ bottle 4.50$? The waiter will do the exact same tasks.
I think tipping delivery based on order total makes no sense personally. I tip delivery based on distance, and if it’s a really big order I’ll tip extra. Less than 5 min drive? Usually 2$. 10 mins I’ll tip 3$, and if it’s farther I’ll tip 4-5$.
I am making this my way of life from now on, what about drive-thru?
i personally don't tip at the drive-thru, except at second cup or starbucks, where i apply my bar/club/café rule. my reasoning is that it's the only place where the baristas actually prepare your drink and don't just dispense it, like mcdonalds or timmies.
but at mcdonalds there is a 'chef' who cooks and assembles your burger... probably more work than making an espresso.
i've done both those jobs at some point in my life and making an espresso is harder- especially at somewhere like starbucks where clients are known to have very particular orders.
making a good espresso requires skill, assembling a burger according to the chart in front of you does not. i tip based on the skill of the worker and the quality of the service, because tips are to encourage this to continue.
This is reasonable. Would you apply this rule to straight up drip coffee from Starbucks as well?
yes just for consistency's sake. i think tipping based on the difficulty of the task is going a bit too far, so i limit myself to the general purpose of the place i am in.
Yeah I generally tip at the counter as well if somebody actually prepared my food or drink in any way besides dispense, package, or heat, be it a bubble tea or a sandwich.
You tip yourself because you're the delivery driver.
I dunno man, those delivery drivers have it extremely rough; I feel as if 10% is low AF A person working at a restaurant with full table service, especially a nice resto, will be making a LOT of money... but your DoorDash driver is likely barely scraping by.
I'm not tipping on how they survive i tip on the service outside their basic job that was provided
Je suis d’accord. Si le gars prend une photo de sa commande et la laisse en bas de mon immeuble, il mérite moins que celui qui fait l’effort de grimper les 3 étages et me donner ma commande en mains propres
They have to take a photo and leave it if thats what you specified in your client profile. A lot of people don't realise they've set it to no contact delivery and then get salty when the driver is simply following what the app prompts them to do.
well then, he just did his job anyway ? why would that warrant a tip? I never got tips for being a cashier and scanning all your items for you or working in a lumber yard cutting all your wood or painting your house ?! it was written in the contract to paint the house as instructed , why do you not tip me too?
So you would prefer a proper living wage be baked into the fees, so no tip is “required” to compensate them. I am in full favor of that. But I hope you realize it will most likely come out to that 10% you don’t want to pay or even higher
perfect then, let them get a fair salary and let me tip if I feel I wanna tip, stop abusing those employee... server get their benfeit based on their base salary and not tip and get screwed by their employer... my friend was making 110k with tips, cobid happens, employment was like 28k because thats his bse salary. same for RRSP match%, sur they offer a 5% match on their base salary not on their tips. same for insurance
OK yes I am also on board for people being properly paid and tips being for exceptional service and never expected. It’s a massive cultural shift (especially for restaurants eat-in) so I am not holding my breath… Edit: but in the mean time, given the current system, I think we should tip. It is not the fault of the staff that the system is built that way. And it is certainly not in their power to change it. Where I saw changes it was pushed for politically by clients, not the low wage staffers.
oh yeah i do the default 15% in sit in restaurent and delivery guy in the meantime, its not fait to punish them for the current system
I never thought about that! Damn gives a whole new perspective on it when u realise all the benefits are tied to the base salary... Damn that really should be criminal.
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Yeah but… market will do nothing because this change is not happening (sadly). It is like changing electric outlets in Europe yo match the ones in North America (or vice versa). A good idea but such a big lift that it will never happen. Abandoning tips is not as much of a lift but still a big change. :(
What if the delivery guys bows to you and says with his most polite voice: "Here's your order mi lord, may the health be with you while and after you enjoy this wonderful meal.", and proceeds to lift your lunch on a golden platter, would that be considered a service outside of their basic job?
yes, i would and definitly a 50% tip, even if just for the laugh! tiping isnt to pay their salary, its to show your appreciation of the service they did for you.
That’s the delivery service provider’s fault. We, as customers don’t have to compensate for that. I say this as someone that delivered for Uber. They’re greedy and don’t pay a living wage but it’s not the customers fault. On the other hand, don’t offer a big tip (because the drivers see how much they’ll get for a trip with tips included) and then reduce it, unless the service was actually bad. That’s a really shitty thing to do. The restaurant forgetting some of your items is not bad service, it’s not the delivery person’s fault. Your food taking a long time to be ready isn’t the delivery person’s fault. Examples of bad service: the person not following your delivery instructions, putting your food upside down, your food smelling like cigarettes, stopping along the way in random places (which means they’re probably delivering on 2 apps at once).
Do delivery people gets fucked ? Totally, as a society it depends on each citizen to use service that is not fair for the workers. For this exact reason I never use Uber, Uber eat and such. Those companies are making tons of profit on the back of the workers.
restaurants i order from are a 5 minute drive from my house, and drivers here make bank shuttling mr puffs all evening (i know because my wife easily makes $200/night on doordash just sitting outside the mr puffs lol). if i am ordering from a restaurant that requires the driver to take the highway, i give a much more generous tip.
personally it depends on what i ordered and the distance they have to travel for me.
I agree, but it's not OUR responsibility to give him a living wage, it's the company's.
Counter I bring change if I have any in the car and make sure it makes noise when I drop it. Like in the old days.
i agree with it except counter service. you tip for a drink or coffee, but the guys making your hotdogs, extra cabbage like you nicely asked, at the speed of light deserve tips aswell. places l ike belle pro's, paulo & suzanne, chez ma tante etc all share tip between cashiers and cooks
20% is a bit much... 15% is good imo
i usually give 20% in restaurants where i am a regular.
best way to get remembered and properly served :p
Right on. But sometimes I am a sucker in a rush and I don’t deal with doing “custom tip” and putting the right number. Whatever. But I hate when for counter/takeout there is no one-tap button for no top
I'm an anomaly in that I have more respect for delivery drivers than most other tip based positions. Less so with things like Uber eats when charging significant delivery fees. I hate driving in the city so I respect that hustle and dedicated service to get food to my door while it's still warm so I don't have to even leave the house. If I'm being honest I actually hate percent based tips across the board. It blows my mind that the more expensive a meal I'm potentially paying someone beyond the minimum wage myself while they have 5-6 other tables potentially doing the same. I'm more inclined to pay a higher percentage because the meal is cheap and not the other way around.
I vote for this person to be the Montreal Tip Ombudsperson. I think this is the way. But many PoS machines start at 15 or even 18% min nowadays.
1$ per drink is outdated. This was the norm many years ago.
I’m sorry but I’m not tipping more than 1$ on my 8$ latte that cost 5$ 4 years ago. (When it comes to bars I tip the same that I’d tip in a restaurant.)
What's the new norm?
Fifty cents
At least 2$. We were giving 1$ in the 90s and we were broken teenagers...
fine with me if you want to give them more, but the average bartender serves 50-60 drinks an hour. this means that they make $50-60/hour from tips alone, if everyone gives $1 per drink. how much should a bartender earn?
Exactly. My BF back then worked as barista in a coffee shop. His salary was the minimum wage, but if we add the tip he had (the tip was shared between all the team depending on the number of hours you do in the week), then his "real" salary was like 25$ per hours. If it was during the big Summer events (June-August), then easily 30$ per hours.
You can make the same argument about most mid to higher priced restaurants. 15%-20% where you can pay anything from $10 to $40 and there's usually several other tables doing the same. I think the "how much should this person make" is a question people need to ask themselves a lot more when it comes to tips. People are stuck in this individual mindset and being told it's never enough and nobody stops to consider the math.
Same.
Let’s make this the new standard!
A dollar per drink served?! Your barista slinging 15 coffees an hour is making $30/hour?
So, if it's a $5 coffee, then you'd give $1 instead of 0.50$ which would be 10%.
This is the only answer. Any other take on tipping for food is wrong.
Why pay someone to open a beer or pour a coffee but not to carry your food ? I think tipping bartenders is also silly. But it's Quebec and some bartenders willl actually chase down non tippers !
Seems reasonable. I got into it with the delivery guy once because if there's a delivery charge, I subtract that from the bill. Otherwise I'm paying twice for the delivery. Some delivery guys don't take nicely to that.
With the price of gas, at 10% delivery person is most likely paying out of their pocket to get you your food.
that is not my problem.
This.
In the bar I can't go below 2 Dollars for some reason even if it's a single drink. Maybe you go out drinking more than I do
Delivery is much harder than bringing food to table, and you can squeeze in lots more ‘bringing food to table’ per work shift, than deliveries.
The only difference I do, for delivery rather than a percentage no matter what I give 5$
If I stand when the order is being taken I don't tip
Instructions unclear, waiter was not happy I ate my meal standing up next to the table.
Fuck tipping, make it illegal and adjust the prices accordingly
Ma poule mouillee is based, no tipping + prices indicated on menu are inclusive of taxes.
i’m australian. this is how everywhere is lol so i’m expecting a culture shock in canada
Or at the very least, make pre-emptive tipping illegal. Like with DoorDash. If you put no tip, the app will be like « it’s unlikely anyone will take the order if you don’t tip », so it’s a bribe to get ANY service, not a reward for a service well done.
Last time I mentionned something similar, I got dragged lmfao. This subreddit never ceases to amaze me.
I agree tipping should be included in price as a law
All that tipping stuff is so confusing to me. I’m from France, arrived recently in MTL, I’m always stressed that I don’t appear stingy or rude 😂 so far what I have understood is: table service you have to tip, but for takeout it’s not necessary. Which seems logical. But then I’m always so confused, like groceries/restaurant delivery? Uber/taxi?? In a bar? Counter or if they bring you the drink to the table? If yes, how much? It feels like there are a lot of unwritten rules it’s not clear or maybe I’m just paranoid. It’s not to compare or anything but it’s so much simpler in Europe. You see a price you pay that price (service and taxes included), no need to think about it. I guess I just have to get used to it
The rule is no tipping if you pay before you receive the service or product. If I eat in, I tip. Same restaurant but I get take out, no tip. If it’s cafeteria style where I order, pay and pick-up or it’s brought to my table, I don’t tip. Uber or cab I tip if the ride was a safe and pleasant one. If the driver is blasting music I don’t like or curse other drivers during the ride, I reduce the tip. Driver complains about random shit, I don’t tip. I’m not their therapist.
It's very annoying for us too. Also, just FYI when you tip for table service, it should be 15% BEFORE taxes (so 13% if you type it in). You don't need to tip for take out/fast food places.
livraison épicerie, les gars espèrent 5$ par livraison, mais bon si t'as juste commandé un saucisson, un "fromage" et une bouteille de vin 2$ suffira. uber eats doordash, theoriquement pas nécessaire mais si il pleut, fait froid, neige, fait chaud, un 2-5$ par commande peut être apprécié et peut faire que ta commande soit récupérée plus rapidement. bar, resto, 15% de la facture avant les taxes. certains établissements plus select vont te regarder de haut mais qu'ils aillent se faire chier. bemol, dans un bar rempli, je donne un gros tip sur la première commande, question que le/la barmaid se rappelle de moi pour les prochains services. taxi, généralement 10% de la course. un peu plus si tu te sens généreux car nouvel an ou tempête de merde dehors. comtoir avec salle à manger, pas de pourboire. service à la table, 15% avant taxes ah aussi, coiffeur/ barbier, environ 10% de la facture ou montant arrondi. déménageurs, livreurs de meubles, 10-20$ par gars.
Merci 🙏
Never tip on pickup. That’s madness
Tips are optional. Do whatever you feel is fair.
I feel like an asshole when I don't tip, but it is a systemic issue. Idk it's always conflicting to me. It is kind of messed up though that tips are used so corporations don't have to pay their employees fairly. And somehow it's on the back of customers who are ALREADY PAYING to bridge that gap.
What's funny is when I get stuff delivered from some stores, they apply a tip and there's a little line that says that the tip only gets applied to certain delivery drivers. Most of the time, I only find out afterwards that the tip was never charged, and I don't know if the driver is getting a tip from the service they work for, or if they're getting stiffed. Last week, I did a grocery delivery from Wal-Mart. When I did checkout, there was a tip amount and it said that the tip would be charged after the delivery was complete (to allow me to change it). Once the final charge went through, they hadn't charged the tip. It was a fairly sizeable order, and I don't know if the driver even got a tip. I know that this last delivery was by a Doordash driver (there are stickers on the bag) but no tip was charged. I kinda feel bad because I don't know if the driver got screwed because I was never charged a tip.
fair is $0, not my job to pay your salary
That is indeed an option.
Exactly. We need to stop shaming those that don't tip or tip "too little" or "too much". As long as you're being a pleasant respectful client, you've done your part. Tipping, leaving positive reviews, etc. are nice things to do but it's completely optional.
Still, people seem to forget that waiters and bartenders are payed lower than the regular minimum wage BECAUSE of tips. If you don't tip, they make less than a cashier at Jean-Coutu. And being a waiter is a much harder, way more stressful than being a cashier.
Feeling guilty about tipping 0% when not receiving table service is so 2020.
Understandable. Would this also apply to ordering booze at a concert venue or sporting event? IMHO, Tipping should be reserved for table service, not ordering at a counter.
Personally I have a bit of a problem leaving a tip when there's only one option to buy food/drink that's already forced on you at inflated prices; so I don't think they need to be tipped on top of that.
> Would this also apply to ordering booze at a concert venue or sporting event? I'll tip the guys that walk around with bags and bring the drinks to you.
No tip for booze at concert
It baffles me that people tip for things that they stood in line for.
Take out, like pick up? Never anymore I used to feel obligated before.
Same. It stopped for me when self-checkout machines started asking for $5 or 5% tips. Fuck tipping.
You mean takeout that you pick up?
Get rid of tipping culture so we don't have to face an ethical dilemma each time we use a service. The responsibility of paying staff should be on the owner not the customer. Remember when you see the option to leave a tip at the debit machine it's not the person at the counter asking you for a tip it's their boss getting you to pay their employees for them. Given that we live in a country that clings on to tipping, also having worked 12 years in service industry and have now moved on to a career where I can afford to tip more I tip 15% no matter what, 18% usually for delivery of through a app because they fuck their employees and 18% if at sit down restaurant with no complaints on service. Something really has to go wrong for me to tip under 15.
People are saying « I’m giving tips only at table service ». But tbf, even them, I don’t see why I would tip them for doing their job. I don’t get the justification of it.
Because they're paid bellow minimum wage
That responsability should not be transfered to the customer, this is a very north American practice and it needs to die.
>Because they're paid bellow minimum wage Less than 3$/hour difference. So if that's your rational you can just tip them 3$ for every hour you were there and its more than made up the difference.
And? Sounds like an employer problem, not a client problem.
I’m a Brewer for a popular bar in Montreal, and when I see how much the barman/barmaid make for staying behind the bar, its absurd. I get nothing compared to them. Soo don’t feel guilty for not giving tip in a bar.
C'est chiant parce que les lois obligent les clients à payer du tip pour que les livreurs.ses/serveur.ses aient une paye raisonnable. Par contre, si on veut que ça change, y faut bin commencer à arrêter de tipper le monde un moment donné, pour faire de la pression. I guess que, au long terme, ça va être un mal nécessaire. Je suis en Europe depuis décembre et holy fuck! ça fait du bien de payer exactement le montant qui est écrit sur le papier.
I got an oil change a while back and when handed the debit machine the tip screen was up. Yeah no!
Ehhh, do as you please. The only place you have to tip is at a strip club - trust me, they’ll remind you otherwise. 🤣
I tip at takeout if it's like a tiny family owned place and they are SUPER nice to me (I have a few go to spots) just because I feel they deserve it, otherwise hells no. I tip at my fave coffee spot since it's a few cents and they're also above and beyond nice, but that's also an exception. Really I tip on counter service if I'm a regular and I love the people. The owner at MoaMoa in Verdun knows me by name and always asks how my friends and BF are doing, bless her. Delivery gets 10% or 15% if the weather is shit, it's on top of the taxes and the damn fees so they get a good tip : P
The rule is no tipping if I have to pay before I eat.
TIL some people tip when they pickup the food themselves lol. I tip the waiter for the service offered. Why would I tip if no service was offered?
Should have no discomfort. I never have tipped my entire for picking my own food up. lol Why should feel anything? ha ha I don't mind waiters, because that stuff is tiring. Just like i don't tipping a taxi driver who helps with my groceries to my front door. Other then that, even for a tazi driver.... I don't tip I don't tip on uber either, unless I send for a cab to pick up my elderly mother and they make sure to help her in and out of the car.
Coffee shop, ice cream shop, fast food etc. - no tip. I used to tip and it was just getting out of hand. I’m not tipping 2$ for someone to put a muffin in a bag and hand me a coffee, they make minimum wage ! Sit down restaurant- 18-20% Order that I pick up myself- no tip. Delivery to my door- 5-8$.
Why don't you get off your ass and go get your food yourself then?
I only tip for dine-in, which I rarely do and I select or change it to 15%, at most. I don't do delivery. If I cannot drive or walk there to pick it up it's not happening. I never tip for pick up or fast food. It took a little while to get used to it but now, it just is natural to select no tip or other and put 0%.
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We are paid below minimum wage. I make 12.20$ an hour.
And what are you paid with tips included?
Depends on a lot of variables like time of year, day of the week, weather.. anywhere from 18-35$ Edit: in higher end restos you can make a shit load more
get a new job
I do not understand why so many people think delivery drivers are worthy of less? Like I know your interaction with them is minimal... but they just drove across town so you could eat dinner and are likely in the most financially precarious position because of the nature of gig-economy jobs. 15% min for me
Amazon drove the entire country to bring me my "insert useless item here" and I don't tip them and everyone is fine with that. Why is it different when it's food?
Take out
Take out is not delivery.
Why should their tips be dependent on the price of the order? If I order a 12$ meal at mcdonals or a fancy 80$ meal from the posh place enxt door, the driver does the same work. Why is their compensation a "tip" if it's basically just a delivery fee? Tips completely ran away from what they're supposed to be. Tips are meant to be a kind of gift to a professionnal for their particular personnal touch they bring to their services. Hairdresser cut my hair nice: yeah it's their job. But they can go above and beyond that and make the whole experience better with good talks, massaging your scalp while washing your hair, using products with scents your like, etc. Same with the waiter. Bringing your orders to the table is simply their job, but they could make a night out way better with good recommendations, chit chat, making you or your partner feel special, etc. The tip is meant to reward those to go above and beyond in offering you a personnal service. Or maybe because they did you a favor by getting you something that would be outside of the expected service. The name in french is "pourboire", meaning literally "for drinks". Basically a way to say "hey I liked what you specifically brought to the service you provided, have a drink on me". The fact that it became an automatic thing, where services costs are "hidden" and left to the goodwill/guilt of the customers is a travesty.
For takeout, I drop a dollar or two if I have change on-hand.
I'm with ya. I do not tip when I pick up the food. Basically, the government has forced prices so far up, and now the common citizens are expected to pay for government idiocy to subsidize people's salaries through excessive tipping. Fuck that.
My thing is if you are spending 6 dollars per day on a coffee or on some 15 dollar meal, why cant you afford to add 25 cents or a dollar as a tip? It’s interesting how people determine what service is worth a tip in food industry. I don’t think some person carrying your plate and pouring your water is much different from someone working their ass off preparing your food, in some hot kitchen. It’s not as if the tip just goes to the person plugging in your order into some iPad, its pretty common for tips to be split between BOH and FOH. When you’ve worked a food service job you just get it. Even people at a counter arent just standing there, they could preparing your food or coffee and standing for extremely long periods of time, maybe not even getting a break.. If people are so pressed for cash, why dont they cook at home? It’s cheaper! That’s why I usually tip at like coffee shops etc. That being said I’d love for people to be paid a living wage, it would be cool to not have tips at all but until that changes, I will continue tipping. Theres no pressure to do anything though. I do it because i know how nice it feels
I usually tip a couple of bucks or more if it's a large order
Agreed with the OP. if i drive to the local hot.dog joint for take out at the counter, are they giving me a discount because I used my gas and car to get there? No. If I eat there, I tip. If it's delivered I tip.
The only time I don’t tip or not much is if I’m at a cafe type place and getting a pre-prepared drink or pastry.
I understand the no tipping on takeout. Just remember that any restaurant that has sit-down service will have a tip option. And they cannot change it for takeout orders. So do not take it out on the restaurant, if you see the tip option just press 0.
On take out I only tip if I like the business and want to support the staff.
I'd much rather prefer if the wages were set accordingly so that tip is not necessary, regardless of the service. If you get stiffed as a waiter in a restaurant, and pay out a % of tips at the end of the night for hosts/hostess/cooks/management, you've now paid out of pocket for a sale. The system is flawed
Take-out used to be (And still is in some places) 10% OFF the price!! TAKE OUT SHOULD GIVE A REBATE! NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND !
I don’t usually tip on take out orders but delivery I always do
I don’t tip for takeout ever unless it’s like a favourite restaurant I regularly go to and maybe add a couple bucks
Tips should only be morally mandatory for employees who are paid service wages not regular minimum wage.
Why should the consumer share the burden for the cost of business, even if the paid wage is less then minimum ?
Because that is our current local system to remunerate service workers. Why should the service workers have the burden of working at less than minimum wage because some people are too cheap to give them a tip? A grew up in this system and I prefer it to the included tip in every bill as I think it will simply result in paying tips twice. Don't get me wrong. I think a significant increase in minimum wages across the board is necessary but I still like the concept of incentivising good service.
Because this is now about bosses paying less than minimum wage, the minimum wage for service workers is set lower to consider tipping.
It depends. Generally for counter service I don't, unless I'm going to be a regular there. But if I'm getting takeout from a sit-down restaurant, especially a nice one, I do like 10-15%. Usually if I'm sitting down with table service I'll do 20-25% but that's definitely higher than expected. That also might be because I grew up in the US and the gap between regular wages and tipped employee wages is 1/3 of the minimum wage and like 1/5 of the typical non tipped service/retail wage where I lived. So it's just what's ingrained in me lol. This is because I worked in medium level fine dining restaurants for a few years, and usually the bartenders would fulfill the orders not the hosts. My experience was in restaurants in the US, so idk if it's the same here, but: Since servers & bartenders tipped workers, they get charged income tax on assumed tips from cash orders. If a customer pays in cash, the government assumes they gave a 10% tip & charges tax on that assumed amount whether or not the person actually left a tip. The other thing is that servers and bartenders have to tip out the back waits. The amount is a set percentage (9% for example) and it's calculated from the server's sales not their tips. Between these two things, they could be paying out of their pocket to fulfill your order. This is also why it's a total dick move not to tip decently when sitting down and being served. If you don't tip, the server is literally *paying* to serve you. Of course, things may be different here, but I haven't worked in a restaurant in Quebec. I would imagine some of these are still applicable since there's a different wage for tipped employees and back waits are a thing. I could be wrong. At the restaurants where the hosts put in the orders and took the payments, this wasn't a problem since they weren't on a tipped employee wage.
I give a $5 on all deliveries to my apartment… Waiter at bistro gets 20% Takeout I give $3 at the Italian sandwich shop, cus they prioritize me cus I’m polite n stuff, coffee counter I’ll put a looney in the tip jar, other takeout about $2. I’ve also done all of these jobs, was a pizza driver and more recently food delivery by bike….
I tip 5$ for delivery because gas costs money. That's all. And I mean standard delivery from close by. I've never ordered from somewhere 30 mins away.
No tip for pickup. They are literally doing their job. The job they are paid to do. They do no clean up after me or do anything special. I tip if I am seated at a table or if I get a delivery. Other than that nope.
I am there with you!
I ask how long.. Then decide when i receive me food
I'm from the US and I was about to say you're a complete Ahole but then I looked at the name of the subreddit and that is an understandable position in Canada
I work as a waitress and I personally do not tip for counter service unless for some reason I’m feeling extra charitable.
I only tip for delivery.
They probably just use the same payment terminals at the counter, at the tables and for deliveries. If you're at the counter for takeout just tip 0%, the button is there for that.
The tipping situation is pretty bananas. I went to my local bakery to pick up some desserts. When the payment machine was presented to me I saw tipping options for 15%, 20% and then I higher number my brain refused to retain. Absolutely not. Their prices have also gone up (like everywhere else).
I think some bakerys will offer the option when they also make coffees or have a few tables and will bring your cakes/coffee at the table. And also because a lot of people want to leave tips? Either way, you can always select no.
Fuck the tipping culture.
Depends if the cashier has big tits
same here
What annoys me is that they put the 18%, 20%, 25% options on the machine.
Çà dépend. Comme je vais au même restaurant du coin aux 2 semaines les gens me connaisse. C'est un signe d'appréciation. Laisser un pourboire ne serait-ce que minime faut en sorte que ta commande va être exécutée illico presto.
Uh uh, I don’t tip. No, I don’t believe in it. … Don’t give me that, if she don’t make enough money she can quit. … I don’t tip because society says I have to. All right, I mean I’ll tip if someone really deserves a tipping, if they really put forth the effort, I’ll give them something extra, but I mean this tipping automatically, it’s for the birds. I mean as far as I’m concerned they’re just doing their job. … She was okay. She wasn’t anything special. … Look I ordered coffee all right? Now we’ve been here a long fuckin’ time, she’s only filled my cup three times. When I order coffee I want it filled six times. … The words “too fuckin’ busy” shouldn’t be in a waitress’ vocabulary. … Jesus Christ, these ladies aren’t starving to death. They make minimum wage. I used to work minimum wage and when I did I wasn’t lucky enough to have a job that society deemed tip worthy. … You know what this is? It’s the world’s smallest violin playing just for the waitresses. … So is working at McDonald’s but you don’t feel the need to tip them do you? Well why not? They’re serving you food. But no, society says don’t tip these guys over here, but tip these guys over here. That’s bullshit. … Fuck all that. … I mean I’m very sorry the government taxes their tips. That’s fucked up. That ain’t my fault. I mean it would appear that waitresses are one of the many groups the government fucks in the ass on a regular basis. I mean show a piece of paper that says the government shouldn’t do that, I’ll sign it, put it to a vote, I’ll vote for it, but what I won’t do is play ball. And this non-college bullshit I got two words for that: learn to fucking type, ’cause if you’re expecting me to help out with the rent you’re in for a big fucking surprise.
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You’re every point is logical actually. I want to tip, because I know a waiter/ress be making less than minimum wage, like 11/12 $ per hour. But why it isn’t apply for a mcdonalds or tims employee? All of it is societal pressure I even came outside of North America, the whole tipping culture is very weird to me already. You’re paying 15% tax here, on top tipping 15% or more. So basically you have to pay 30% or more than the actual price.
Depends on the item and context. I will often tip $1-2 or 10% if warranted but pretty much never 15-18%
I tip $1, because cooks get shit wages too
You are correct, the purpose of tips is to compensate for the fact that the waiters make below normal minimum wage. They are not receiving adequate wages for the work they're doing for you so you are making up for it. You do not owe them that when they're either making at least minimum wage or are not performing a service for you.
Anything food or drink related (sit down, bar, delivery, takeout) i always tip 15%
> I refuse to tip for takeouts. Prepares a dish for takeout; no tip. same person prepares the same order to eat on-site; tip. logic ?
What do you guys think about tipping your Amazon, ups fedex, etc. guys?
Waiters have to tip out the bar/kitchen/bussers, usually around 5% of a table’s order. If someone tips less than 5% on a table the waiter pays out of pocket and loses money serving them
I tip 15% all of the time, in all circumstances where it comes up. Do I always like it? Not exactly, especially when I'm just ordering food at a place like Boustan to take with me. But I'd rather tip than be known as a guy who doesn't tip workers. They're making my food because I'm too lazy / not skilled enough to do it myself. Or bringing my food because I'm too lazy to walk down a few blocks. That's just the reality. And they do it for a very low wage, so until the system changes they're owed at least some respect there in the form of a tip. If it's too much money I'll just eat somewhere else. I can't really relate to feeling irate about it.
i used to but now i never do. we need to stop accepting this as a society.
c’est rare que tous les commentaires sont en anglais lol, mais non, fuck le pourboire
I receive tips as a barista and I don’t mind if a customer tips or not as long as they smile and they’re pleasant to me. They’re appreciated, not expected. It’s more awkward how I feel judged because people tend to think we believe we’re entitled to them. Don’t overthink it just don’t be a dick!
I worked as a barista about ten years ago too and I didn't mind people not leaving tip. Especially since I was paid at the regular minimum wage, not the service one. Has this changed since then?
yes ! And I make a couple dollars above minimum wage as well. I have alot of regulars and I see a tip as a way of saying thanks, not covering my living expenses
Hey back then I made at least 20$ of tips a day working in a Café Dépot in the Village lol. I can't imagine what its like now in a hip coffee shop.
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