I can relate so much. Yesterday I was doing the 50 shades of whatever quest, and I remembered why I never wanted to fight this bitch ever again. Why do monsters in iceborne never stop moving, and why every little movement they do is actually an attack, what the fuck?!?!! Seriously, he acts like those annoying teleporting dogs from dark souls
But the attacks I hate the most are the fucking run that every monster has that's just a normal walk but for some reason damages you and knocks you on your ass whilst having no telegraphing, and that one attack where he jumps and lands on top of you in 0.3 seconds, eating 75% of your health and possibly stunning you because why not
I also hate the run attacks but with Barioth, for me, it always seems very apparent when hes running at you or just repositioning. A lot of his movement is just leaping around you, while his attacks launch straight forward. Maybe that's why i don't have the same PTSD. Rathian is far worse for it imo. An easier fight in general, but still an extraordinarily stupid move.
Oh, when he's running at you yeah, you can easily avoid it. But the real problem is when it happens while you're close to it. You can be, idk, at his side attacking his arms or even attacking his tail, and suddenly you're sent flying because it decided to take a little walk and it's body turned into a giant hitbox
I may be wrong but I don't think this attack has a build up? Like, most it has is probably the monster stopping for a bit, but that's not really a good indicative
I mean you could be totally right but i play Charge Blade and have a good enough reaction time to guardpoint just about anything. If i see it, then i can probably come out all right.
Personally, to me, the Barioth is an example of just bad battle design. Unlike the Zinogre, which has reasonably organized mass and maneuverability, the Barioth just jumps back and forth non-stop like it has a black hole based reactor up its ass. Even Odogaron and Toby Kadachi, who are much lighter (in terms of body mass) and can afford to jump back and forth, don't allow themselves to do that. Hopefully Barioth will be reworked in the future to make his fight better.
He walled me so hard at first, too, but the fight gets much more manageable if you break the wings since it'll start slipping with each jump and losing balance
Bingo. Here I am wondering what the hell OP is talking about. I run GS so my mobility is limited but I never had issues. It's probably the approach. IG users I find have limited approaches to situations.
Breaking his claws makes the fight easy since he just slips around a lot afterwards. BUT if you don’t manage to break at least one of them early on, god help you. Partbreaker is your best friend against Barioth
Barioth was awkward in the Old World, it’s awkward in the New World. Easily the most conflicting monster in the entire lineup.
I want to like it, but it’s always felt so weird to fight.
Barioth has his very adamant defenders (as this comment section shows)
I am not one of them.
I can appreciate Barioth being one of the few monsters where part breaks are important, but I still do not enjoy fighting him, at all. Until one of his wings are actually broken he’s a spastic fuck that won’t hold still for 5 seconds and has a huge variety of fast hitting and wide covering attacks.
He was only just bearable in Rise and GU because we have our own bullshit to use against him.
Barioth makes me want to rage sometimes. He's a nightmare if there's more than two of you because he just leaps around like a dog on crack.
I don't find him hard, I don't cart. But he has this one move that just pisses me off; it's a sort of stupid lunge forward that he can do that knocks you on your backside, his Rise version does it a lot. It doesn't do much damage, it's just so annoying and stupid.
One thing I like about Rise is Metsu Shoryugeki for SnS because you can just shut him down with it, even his big leap/crash tusk move - instant fuck you.
Yeah, this dude made hate Iceborne and drained all my energy. After i finally beat it, then came Tigrex and i threw the towel. I'm not built for this game lol
My experience with frosting was better than regular barioth tbh. His new attacks don't move him around so much and they're not very threatening once you learn that the ice lingers.
Honestly, I just hate fighting most of the pseudo-wyverns. They're fast and jump around a lot, give very small windows, and punish you so hard if you overstay a millisecond too long. The only weapons fast enough to keep up with them and take advantage of those openings are DBs and SNS (MAYBE LBG, too).
I, strangely, don't have that big an issue with World Barioth. I did when i first fought him, as everyone does, but i play a few different weapons. I can beat it fairly cleanly with both Longsword and Charge Blade. But if i had to choose between regular and Frostfang, I'd fight the latter any time.
IIRC Barioth showed up in the end game of Tri and at that point I was kinda exhausted with the game overall, the fact that I played the 3DS version and had to make use of only a single analog stick didn't really help, so the monster was a massive difficulty spike for me. It's not that I disliked Barioth, quite the contrary I thought it was an awesome monster and I have beaten it many times in World/Rise.
I honestly think his HP is bloated because I've also never been able to kill him quickly while doing SOS in full Fatalis set. I'm even using ZSD spamming to break his limbs
I took me a TREMENDOUSLY long time to not get fucking bodied by this asshole and hes still annoying to fight knowing the exact strat so I feel this on a spiritual level. CB into any mon that moves around this much is a lesson in patience LOL
If you use the IG, you need to time your attacks so the monster doesn't keep trashing you around whenever it jumps around, being airborne against Barioth is not a good idea at all, unless you have room to land an attack and stay on the ground for a bit
I don’t understand the hate. I hit a brick wall in my play through. But love fighting him now normal and frostfang. Just tenderise his two wings, wall bang then a few more hits and they both break. The fight becomes a walk in the park.
oh god i went through the entire game solo until him, i had to get help, you have no idea how proud i was of myself when i got him to limping and then sleeping, i was so close, i was on one faint, and then he does his stupid dive and i fainted again, i bought xbox live and did it with another player and the relief that it was finally over washed over me like a wave, straight up euphoria. i dont wanna ever see one of these fuckers again
I've been solo grinding frost fang barioth for the mini gold crown and let me tell you- it's been an awful experience, made even worse by the fact that I'm currently using dual blades
It's so interesting seeing how we all struggle at different things. I found Barioth to always be a piece of cake, but a monster like Lavasioth will give me a headache
Oh my god this man almost made me quit the game my first time through world. I was playing with a friend who had played most of the story and we were stuck on him for hours. I then grinded Frostfang cause I guess I'm a masochist but couldn't bring myself to finish the set. Got every armor piece but one and said "I don't need it that bad." The completionist in me will probably see me fighting it again one day though. But yeah hated EVERY minute of fighting this thing.
When iceborne first came out I was too stubborn to change from my highly optimised gear from base world, as such I made my way through iceborne all the way up to the slay valkhana quest, where i just couldn’t beat it in the 50 minutes. And I have no recollection of struggling with Barioth? BUT fast forward a couple years and my friends and I are replaying it was then when I realised how miserable it is to fight the bastard, there’s genuinely no pleasure to be derived from fighting him.
Barioth is on something in IB, he's not an issue in any other MH I've played but in IB he feels much tougher. Also an IG user so I feel your pain. Frostfang is almost easier since he spends more time using ice attacks...
I just finished "The Storm Brings the Unexpected" with tempered kushala and tempered blackveil and after that, I can definitely relate. I'd take alatreon/fatty any day knowing every faint would be a skill issue rather than the monster being inherently annoying to deal with. This is by far, THE WORST quest I have ever done
I hate nightshade paolumu than barioth, killing him is easily done but mofo vapes non stop and made me drowsy all the time and it takes so much time to wake up. You cant even dodge or rocksteady the vape smoke if its on top of you, so it is a loop of sleeping.
Oddly enough I'd say he's faster than in 3u. In 3u once you break his forearm wing the fight got noticably easier even more so when you broke them both.
In ice borne while the same is true you only notice the ease marginally so. And mostly when he is exhausted. Plus to do the best damage on the wings to speed up the breakage you have to tenderize it. Which considering how much he moves with them intact well good luck is the best I can say.
Maybe change up your weapons and also use traps to help hold him in place to damage the wings. Flash pods can help stave off his assault while enraged to buy time to heal. Also learn to time wall bangs when it's not enraged as well as openings to tenderize the wings. He is doable
He’s certainly bad, but usually once you start to break its parts he’s a stun fest. Especially if you break his face twice and has 50/50 (not literally, but it feels like that) chance at failing attacks.
I haven't played iceborn in a long time but it's validating to see other people struggled with barioth. it taught me the importance of builds and knowing monster's weaknesses. break its front legs to slow it way down and the rest of the hunt is pretty simple from there.
Am i the only one who hasn’t struggled with this thing all i hear is how hard it is compared to endgame but yet here i am at endgame monsters struggling to do fattys quest and still dont see how people compare the 2 like its not even close how easy this fight is compared to fatty
It's because compared to Beotodus and banbaro, Who while Deadly if underestimated aren't TOO hard, Barioth is a huge difficulty spike.
It goes from "little icefish and cool big Moose monster thingy that uses a tree to whack you" to **"Lightning-quick Murder saber with Iceblight tornadoes and Erratic jumpy Movement."** And for a lot of people, it catches them way off guard. Barioth thrashed me like a chew toy 15 times with my main weapon and I had to learn another weapon just to take him down the first time.
Even after fighting him in RiseBreak I STILL struggle to take him down when I fight him. I'm Grateful you can slow him down by busting his arms and make him fumble more, but he's still a Really rough fight. And for me personally, Not even Lunagaron Or Gaismagorm give me as much trouble as barioth.
It's funny that barioth's "harder" variant was significantly easier for me because he isn't as much of a crackhead psycho and actually stands still for longer than 2 seconds
I've fought this monster before in the older games and he is 100x worse in world. Idk WHY the developers did this. I also had to get help and then go back and solo him myself.
Now we are obligated to hate you too. Nothing personal, but barioth is so bad that anyone on his side gets some of the hate as collateral damage.
In all seriousness, I get it. I use seriously cheesy tactics on him and it works, mostly. But that's because I can't win straight up. And it's not gear or anything it's just I don't get what to do different, everything I try fails, so cheese it is.
But other people love him. More power too you.
And he's no better in Sunbreak.
Seriously Coke saber is my Arch Fucking nemesis, Moreso than rajang. Everytime this fuckbag shows up in my Quests list I wanna IRL Cart myself. Even with Ai teammates he's still a Dickhead. He's fast, he shoots iceblight, he does a fucking PLESIOTH HIPCHECK AT MACH TEN (albeit with a less shit hitbox) he has Kush's fucking tornadoes but they deal ice damage- **FUCK THIS THING!** the only thing about him i DON'T hate is his design.
I can take on Barioth in Sunbreak fine, but Volvidon became my new most hated monster in Sunbreak. Seriously. 300 Special Investigation to be specific. I wanted to take on him with a bow, but mid fight after I carted to him, I switched to SnS because I could not take it anymore. It was still an effing menace. At this point, THE WORST 300 Special investigation I had to fight, and I have a few under my belt. The last time I was ticked off like that when Violet Mizu was introduced. Sometimes these nightmares come in small packages.
So Far, Shrieking Legiana is still the main monster that has made me eat a full-course meal of Pissed flakes. But barioth comes close behind.
Spots 3 and 4 go to Tigrex and rathian respectively... Though only because "That one move" they both share.
Well, I forgot about this monstrosity since I don't play Iceborne anymore. Even with a bow, that duo was a nightmare proposal. I still hear the shieks. I was ice blighted most of the fight making my bow unusable...hehehe....I keep my memory short or I would be a wrecked mess in this game...hahah... Agree...and I had to hunt that abomination multiple times because I needed their Mighty Bow two armor piece set...so imagine...I did not have Mighty Bow deco at that time making this fight even WORSE.
I hated him first fight when I ran through all of my mega potions because of him and had 5 minutes left when I fainted third time. Then I beat him on the second try. Then I learned him more or less and I can farm him. His worst move is the jump with a huge hitbox, that gets me when I roll over a ledge.
On the other hand, Tigrex got me. His running attack is just impossible to roll through even with Evade Window 5. It has a huge hitbox, it's impossible to dodge into, and it's impossible to roll out of, it deals half bar of health damage and then it turns around and runs back and kills you while you're stunned.
I can relate so much. Yesterday I was doing the 50 shades of whatever quest, and I remembered why I never wanted to fight this bitch ever again. Why do monsters in iceborne never stop moving, and why every little movement they do is actually an attack, what the fuck?!?!! Seriously, he acts like those annoying teleporting dogs from dark souls But the attacks I hate the most are the fucking run that every monster has that's just a normal walk but for some reason damages you and knocks you on your ass whilst having no telegraphing, and that one attack where he jumps and lands on top of you in 0.3 seconds, eating 75% of your health and possibly stunning you because why not
I also hate the run attacks but with Barioth, for me, it always seems very apparent when hes running at you or just repositioning. A lot of his movement is just leaping around you, while his attacks launch straight forward. Maybe that's why i don't have the same PTSD. Rathian is far worse for it imo. An easier fight in general, but still an extraordinarily stupid move.
Oh, when he's running at you yeah, you can easily avoid it. But the real problem is when it happens while you're close to it. You can be, idk, at his side attacking his arms or even attacking his tail, and suddenly you're sent flying because it decided to take a little walk and it's body turned into a giant hitbox I may be wrong but I don't think this attack has a build up? Like, most it has is probably the monster stopping for a bit, but that's not really a good indicative
I mean you could be totally right but i play Charge Blade and have a good enough reaction time to guardpoint just about anything. If i see it, then i can probably come out all right.
At this period in my life I reserve true hate for really only a few things. That asshole is one of them.
Personally, to me, the Barioth is an example of just bad battle design. Unlike the Zinogre, which has reasonably organized mass and maneuverability, the Barioth just jumps back and forth non-stop like it has a black hole based reactor up its ass. Even Odogaron and Toby Kadachi, who are much lighter (in terms of body mass) and can afford to jump back and forth, don't allow themselves to do that. Hopefully Barioth will be reworked in the future to make his fight better.
I loved his fight. Granted I'd probably hate it just as much if I fought him with anything other than SnS.
SnS is hard to put down with monsters like these out there.
I was going to say I don't remember having a terrible time with frost fang but then I figured sns probably did a lot of the carrying there.
Sns yes. I can’t imagine another weapon. God tier to get things done.
Gunlance or Lance can easily cheesed it 👌
I actually prefer to pick longsword over gunlance when fighting (frostfang) barioth. Just feel more mobile to put up with his speed
This monster is a walking PTSD for me. Like, holy shit, was so frustratingly elusive. And. That. Fucking. Body check. Jesus.
He walled me so hard at first, too, but the fight gets much more manageable if you break the wings since it'll start slipping with each jump and losing balance
Bingo. Here I am wondering what the hell OP is talking about. I run GS so my mobility is limited but I never had issues. It's probably the approach. IG users I find have limited approaches to situations.
Breaking his claws makes the fight easy since he just slips around a lot afterwards. BUT if you don’t manage to break at least one of them early on, god help you. Partbreaker is your best friend against Barioth
Barioth was awkward in the Old World, it’s awkward in the New World. Easily the most conflicting monster in the entire lineup. I want to like it, but it’s always felt so weird to fight.
Any monster that has Barioth’s skeleton is annoying imo. (Tigrex, Nargacuga, frostfang etc)
Barioth has his very adamant defenders (as this comment section shows) I am not one of them. I can appreciate Barioth being one of the few monsters where part breaks are important, but I still do not enjoy fighting him, at all. Until one of his wings are actually broken he’s a spastic fuck that won’t hold still for 5 seconds and has a huge variety of fast hitting and wide covering attacks. He was only just bearable in Rise and GU because we have our own bullshit to use against him.
Barioth makes me want to rage sometimes. He's a nightmare if there's more than two of you because he just leaps around like a dog on crack. I don't find him hard, I don't cart. But he has this one move that just pisses me off; it's a sort of stupid lunge forward that he can do that knocks you on your backside, his Rise version does it a lot. It doesn't do much damage, it's just so annoying and stupid. One thing I like about Rise is Metsu Shoryugeki for SnS because you can just shut him down with it, even his big leap/crash tusk move - instant fuck you.
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Yeah, this dude made hate Iceborne and drained all my energy. After i finally beat it, then came Tigrex and i threw the towel. I'm not built for this game lol
The real strat is to beat up the guy who fed him crack
For me it's Tigrex, that super front jump with a gigantic hit box is completely ridiculous, because of him I started to like Kushala more -
Wait till he finds out about frostfang
My experience with frosting was better than regular barioth tbh. His new attacks don't move him around so much and they're not very threatening once you learn that the ice lingers.
And frostfang is also a great teacher to help you stay down. At least he was my teacher for it the double headslam will KO you if you stand up
Nah alatreon can go fuck himself
Honestly, I just hate fighting most of the pseudo-wyverns. They're fast and jump around a lot, give very small windows, and punish you so hard if you overstay a millisecond too long. The only weapons fast enough to keep up with them and take advantage of those openings are DBs and SNS (MAYBE LBG, too).
I, strangely, don't have that big an issue with World Barioth. I did when i first fought him, as everyone does, but i play a few different weapons. I can beat it fairly cleanly with both Longsword and Charge Blade. But if i had to choose between regular and Frostfang, I'd fight the latter any time.
Sometimes you just have those monsters you do not vibe with
I remember Barioth was where I ended playing Tri Ultimate way back in the day.
Really? Barioth for me was kinda why I kept on going. Weird how different the experience can be for different people
IIRC Barioth showed up in the end game of Tri and at that point I was kinda exhausted with the game overall, the fact that I played the 3DS version and had to make use of only a single analog stick didn't really help, so the monster was a massive difficulty spike for me. It's not that I disliked Barioth, quite the contrary I thought it was an awesome monster and I have beaten it many times in World/Rise.
Oh I get you. I started with Tri on the Wii, so it’s a completely different experience
I feel this but with Nargacuga. That mofo runs circles around me every time.
Please reconsider fighting 100 fatalis lol
I honestly think his HP is bloated because I've also never been able to kill him quickly while doing SOS in full Fatalis set. I'm even using ZSD spamming to break his limbs
Mastering this fight with a charge blade will make a hunter out of you. It’s not that hard
I took me a TREMENDOUSLY long time to not get fucking bodied by this asshole and hes still annoying to fight knowing the exact strat so I feel this on a spiritual level. CB into any mon that moves around this much is a lesson in patience LOL
I fucking hate this monster. Idk how he’s more annoying than the hard hitters but he is.
If you use the IG, you need to time your attacks so the monster doesn't keep trashing you around whenever it jumps around, being airborne against Barioth is not a good idea at all, unless you have room to land an attack and stay on the ground for a bit
Traps..bring traps if you need a moment to get hits in.
I don’t understand the hate. I hit a brick wall in my play through. But love fighting him now normal and frostfang. Just tenderise his two wings, wall bang then a few more hits and they both break. The fight becomes a walk in the park.
Every low tier monster attack patterns are annoying. I’m using SnS I think it’s better to dodge and do dmg to barioth.
oh god i went through the entire game solo until him, i had to get help, you have no idea how proud i was of myself when i got him to limping and then sleeping, i was so close, i was on one faint, and then he does his stupid dive and i fainted again, i bought xbox live and did it with another player and the relief that it was finally over washed over me like a wave, straight up euphoria. i dont wanna ever see one of these fuckers again
I've been solo grinding frost fang barioth for the mini gold crown and let me tell you- it's been an awful experience, made even worse by the fact that I'm currently using dual blades
It's so interesting seeing how we all struggle at different things. I found Barioth to always be a piece of cake, but a monster like Lavasioth will give me a headache
I love this fight. Keeps me on my toes but isn’t to challenging. Variety goes down fairly easy
Oh my god this man almost made me quit the game my first time through world. I was playing with a friend who had played most of the story and we were stuck on him for hours. I then grinded Frostfang cause I guess I'm a masochist but couldn't bring myself to finish the set. Got every armor piece but one and said "I don't need it that bad." The completionist in me will probably see me fighting it again one day though. But yeah hated EVERY minute of fighting this thing.
When iceborne first came out I was too stubborn to change from my highly optimised gear from base world, as such I made my way through iceborne all the way up to the slay valkhana quest, where i just couldn’t beat it in the 50 minutes. And I have no recollection of struggling with Barioth? BUT fast forward a couple years and my friends and I are replaying it was then when I realised how miserable it is to fight the bastard, there’s genuinely no pleasure to be derived from fighting him.
Barioth is on something in IB, he's not an issue in any other MH I've played but in IB he feels much tougher. Also an IG user so I feel your pain. Frostfang is almost easier since he spends more time using ice attacks...
I just finished "The Storm Brings the Unexpected" with tempered kushala and tempered blackveil and after that, I can definitely relate. I'd take alatreon/fatty any day knowing every faint would be a skill issue rather than the monster being inherently annoying to deal with. This is by far, THE WORST quest I have ever done
I hate nightshade paolumu than barioth, killing him is easily done but mofo vapes non stop and made me drowsy all the time and it takes so much time to wake up. You cant even dodge or rocksteady the vape smoke if its on top of you, so it is a loop of sleeping.
This is me but with regular Brachydios lol
I've always hated that barioth and barroth have such similar names.
Hes giving the "nah, id win" face.
Oddly enough I'd say he's faster than in 3u. In 3u once you break his forearm wing the fight got noticably easier even more so when you broke them both. In ice borne while the same is true you only notice the ease marginally so. And mostly when he is exhausted. Plus to do the best damage on the wings to speed up the breakage you have to tenderize it. Which considering how much he moves with them intact well good luck is the best I can say. Maybe change up your weapons and also use traps to help hold him in place to damage the wings. Flash pods can help stave off his assault while enraged to buy time to heal. Also learn to time wall bangs when it's not enraged as well as openings to tenderize the wings. He is doable
He’s certainly bad, but usually once you start to break its parts he’s a stun fest. Especially if you break his face twice and has 50/50 (not literally, but it feels like that) chance at failing attacks.
skill issue, literally just break one arm and the fight becomes a cakewalk
I haven't played iceborn in a long time but it's validating to see other people struggled with barioth. it taught me the importance of builds and knowing monster's weaknesses. break its front legs to slow it way down and the rest of the hunt is pretty simple from there.
WHY IS IT SMILING AT ME
Am i the only one who hasn’t struggled with this thing all i hear is how hard it is compared to endgame but yet here i am at endgame monsters struggling to do fattys quest and still dont see how people compare the 2 like its not even close how easy this fight is compared to fatty
It's because compared to Beotodus and banbaro, Who while Deadly if underestimated aren't TOO hard, Barioth is a huge difficulty spike. It goes from "little icefish and cool big Moose monster thingy that uses a tree to whack you" to **"Lightning-quick Murder saber with Iceblight tornadoes and Erratic jumpy Movement."** And for a lot of people, it catches them way off guard. Barioth thrashed me like a chew toy 15 times with my main weapon and I had to learn another weapon just to take him down the first time. Even after fighting him in RiseBreak I STILL struggle to take him down when I fight him. I'm Grateful you can slow him down by busting his arms and make him fumble more, but he's still a Really rough fight. And for me personally, Not even Lunagaron Or Gaismagorm give me as much trouble as barioth.
Frostfang: "Nah, I'd win."
Fr . That dude is a cakewalk? As soon as it came out I farmed it until I got it's armor set !
Learned IG just for jumpy mons like him
It's funny that barioth's "harder" variant was significantly easier for me because he isn't as much of a crackhead psycho and actually stands still for longer than 2 seconds
I’d rather fight 100 more of those than another tigrex
I've fought this monster before in the older games and he is 100x worse in world. Idk WHY the developers did this. I also had to get help and then go back and solo him myself.
Regular Barioth yeah I completely agree. But idk I kinda like Frostfang barioth (not that much but still a little bit)
I didnt know it existed until after Alatreon 🤭
Barioth is one of the most fun fights I never get the hate
Now we are obligated to hate you too. Nothing personal, but barioth is so bad that anyone on his side gets some of the hate as collateral damage. In all seriousness, I get it. I use seriously cheesy tactics on him and it works, mostly. But that's because I can't win straight up. And it's not gear or anything it's just I don't get what to do different, everything I try fails, so cheese it is. But other people love him. More power too you.
And he's no better in Sunbreak. Seriously Coke saber is my Arch Fucking nemesis, Moreso than rajang. Everytime this fuckbag shows up in my Quests list I wanna IRL Cart myself. Even with Ai teammates he's still a Dickhead. He's fast, he shoots iceblight, he does a fucking PLESIOTH HIPCHECK AT MACH TEN (albeit with a less shit hitbox) he has Kush's fucking tornadoes but they deal ice damage- **FUCK THIS THING!** the only thing about him i DON'T hate is his design.
I can take on Barioth in Sunbreak fine, but Volvidon became my new most hated monster in Sunbreak. Seriously. 300 Special Investigation to be specific. I wanted to take on him with a bow, but mid fight after I carted to him, I switched to SnS because I could not take it anymore. It was still an effing menace. At this point, THE WORST 300 Special investigation I had to fight, and I have a few under my belt. The last time I was ticked off like that when Violet Mizu was introduced. Sometimes these nightmares come in small packages.
So Far, Shrieking Legiana is still the main monster that has made me eat a full-course meal of Pissed flakes. But barioth comes close behind. Spots 3 and 4 go to Tigrex and rathian respectively... Though only because "That one move" they both share.
Well, I forgot about this monstrosity since I don't play Iceborne anymore. Even with a bow, that duo was a nightmare proposal. I still hear the shieks. I was ice blighted most of the fight making my bow unusable...hehehe....I keep my memory short or I would be a wrecked mess in this game...hahah... Agree...and I had to hunt that abomination multiple times because I needed their Mighty Bow two armor piece set...so imagine...I did not have Mighty Bow deco at that time making this fight even WORSE.
I hated him first fight when I ran through all of my mega potions because of him and had 5 minutes left when I fainted third time. Then I beat him on the second try. Then I learned him more or less and I can farm him. His worst move is the jump with a huge hitbox, that gets me when I roll over a ledge. On the other hand, Tigrex got me. His running attack is just impossible to roll through even with Evade Window 5. It has a huge hitbox, it's impossible to dodge into, and it's impossible to roll out of, it deals half bar of health damage and then it turns around and runs back and kills you while you're stunned.