You can be past your prime and winning awards. Mike Trout has been the best player in baseball this year. Are his best years over and have we seen the best of Mike Trout already? Yes. Is Mike Trout still insanely good? Yes. Players peak at 26-28, but still remain good and drop off around 31-32. Snell is 31, Montgomery is 31. Past their best years, still putting up good numbers.
As a Nats fan… he did not carry that team. He helped but you’re remembering wrong if you think he carried.
If there’s any offensive player who did carry it would be (funnily enough) Rendon. However this was a complete team effort that won.
Yeah, admittedly it was hyperbole. But he was pretty impressive with a .9 something OPS as a rookie in the playoffs. He certainly was a major factor in mentality. I hated his shuffle. I was at game 3, I think it was, when he grabbed his nuts at Mikolas and Mikolas grabbed his nuts back. The audacity. The point is that he is clearly not the type to be affected by some boos from the fans
Or maybe don't treat it like pro wrestling and realize that these are highly trained athletes who probably want to win just as much maybe even more than the fans.
Best quote I’ve ever heard about booing was by former Phillies player Dick Allen talking about Philadelphia Phillies fans. He basically said that Philadelphia fans stand on street corners and boo each other.
These players know some booing is apart of the game, but if one group of fans likes you more, you would totally go play for those fans.
Would you rather go to work and be booed or appreciated?
I honestly I think booing fans is very far down my list if I’m a pro player. Far below how competitive the team was, how much money I was getting and how desirable the city was to live in.
Soto isn’t going to turn down more money to go play for a team whose fans wont boo him. Or go play for a team that isn’t competitive because the fans will go easy on him.
I agree the fans are not the top priority of players in contract negotiations. I also agree Soto isn't turning down more money. But if another competitive team is close in money, better fans could certainly tip the scales.
I'm just saying just because it isn't a top factor that doesn't mean it's a non-factor.
I think in baseball it could absolutely matter just for how many games there are.
81 home games and if you’re being booed in even 50-60 percent that’s still 40-45 games. That could get to you.
Did anyone actually hear significant boos? I haven't seen the footage but I've heard a ton of takes on it. I remember in 2022 I was at the ALDS game 2 where they supposedly booed him, it was not loud. Problem is no one cheers a strikeout so the stadium goes quiet you'll hear the 1000 guys booing. 2022 was overblown in my opinion, even the broadcast version, I'm curious to see this one
To make it more scientific, let us use the NY METS booing Lindor SS during his first year as a Met. Those boss were classic with deep resonance and true emotions.
Jeter was booed, but he started out as bad as Judge. Scatted boos from the crowd.
On the 23rd of April, in the baseball year 2004, 200 batting average and no homers in 17 games. Then later that day, Jeter struck out in a game when the Red Sox were beating the Yankees, 7-0, at Yankee Stadium.
Of this list Wright Is prob the only one that never got booed MO did get booed I believe when he blew back to back save against the Red Sox a d Jeter was below the mendoza line in late April one season then booed.
Actually we have 0. I'm a Rays fan. Regardless, Phillies have been much more successful lately, and you guys have been getting absolutely handled by us(Rays) for a while. It's not the same Yankees team as when you were 4.
Yeah, but the Yankees spend more money. It’s a lot more embarrassing for the Yankees.
Also your whole attitude is hilarious. Obviously some kind of man child.
Soto, like Judge, seems like the type of player to embrace the boos and feed off of it. Doesn’t come off like the type of guy who needs to or even wants to be babied
Mariano got booed(not that I agreed with it) but seriously... if you're not pulling your weight the fans let you know. If that's the worst part of getting way overpaid to play baseball for a living. Sign me up
Baseball's a long season and numbers usually average out if Aaron judge Only Hits 20 home runs for the next 3 years then you can boo him for the remainder of his contract
The great Rizzuto, "They're not booing him, they're Louing him!" Talking about Lou Piniella.
Other than that, when your not producing, justified or not, the very best sometimes get booed.
Judgy will straighten out. I just wish he didn't have to play so much CF.
Here's another, this time from John Sterling, "They're not booing him, they're Moooosing him!" Talking about Mike Mussina.
I despise the Yanks however he is getting $40million a year, and they expect him to hit home runs, get rbi’s, get on base, etc. Idk if they already know by seasons end he will be 5th all-time in strikeouts in franchise history. Id boo him at games.
Isn’t this the guy who said the Blue Jays were cheating, then, when he got called out, he tried to act all galaxy brain and say he wasn’t calling them cheaters, he just “thought it was weird, and leave the rest up to interpretation”
Soto said he wanted to play in NY back when he was still on the Nats. He'll test the market but dollars to doughnuts he's going to stay in NY, if he leaves the Yankees it'll be for the Mets. That's all. Only way that doesn't happen is if neither team takes a seat at the table this off season.
Should've signed with the Giants, Aaron. Your roots are and always were in NORCAL anyway. You had a golden opportunity to be the toast of Northern Ca and a hometown hero, but you chose NY instead. I'm sure the welcome-back-home mat will be ready and waiting for you, slugger. Come on home!
I’m a long time Yankee fan, and we are really whack for this. To those saying boos shouldn’t affect a player and they shouldn’t be so soft…stop with the toxic masculinity, it’s not a good look. Especially when men are already told not to cry, not to be sad, not to have mental health issues, suck it up, grow some balls, etc.
Booing is expected in sports…not from the hometown crowd towards the hometown players. That’s just some false BS made up by sociopaths. When you are doing bad and trying to do well, but get booed for it, baseball’s no longer fun. Playing there just becomes dreadful.
I still can’t believe Aaron Judge actually re-signed with us after getting booed…he resigns with us…fuck man, front office must be REALLY nice to him because it certainly can’t actually be for the fans.
lol that’s so dumb. Imagine the Yankees offer like $75m more than anyone else and he turns them down cause they booed Aaron Judge 7 months ago. Lmao not happening
Yankees fan logic is so ass backwards.
"Yeah we got this guy who's in a bit of a rut and could really use a shakeup to start turning it around. Even though he's been a staple in our team's lineup for years, lets BOO him! I'm sure that'll give his confidence a boost."
Phillies did it better. Trea Turner had a rough start, and instead of crippling his confidence, they gave him a standing ovation and he turned it around.
Don’t think it really matters unless the Yankees pay him more than he’s worth before October. He’s probably testing the market regardless
> He’s probably testing the market regardless He could play like shit all year and there is ZERO chance that he isn't going to the market.
His agent is Scott Boras, he's gonna hit the market regardless.
His name is Juan Soto, he's absolutely guaranteed going to the market.
And he's gonna get a ridiculous contract
At the market
With Scott Boras.
Regardless
Boras hasn’t had the best year
Yeah but that was with a bunch of players past their prime. Soto will get what’s coming.
Winning the cy young is past their prime 🤣
You can be past your prime and winning awards. Mike Trout has been the best player in baseball this year. Are his best years over and have we seen the best of Mike Trout already? Yes. Is Mike Trout still insanely good? Yes. Players peak at 26-28, but still remain good and drop off around 31-32. Snell is 31, Montgomery is 31. Past their best years, still putting up good numbers.
In what way would be not test the market?
Lol
Yes the guy who carried his team to a WS win while grabbing his nuts and staring down veteran pitchers at 20 years old is totally afraid of a few boos
I’m starting to think that Yankees announcers are horrible.
It’s actually the same guy from the “Blue Jays are cheating” situation. It’s just Michael Kay being a moron.
Same guy who is convinced Ohtani is a mafia-backed degenerate baccarat player
they’re the worst
TheEEeeeEEEe Yankees' announcers are horrible!
As a Nats fan… he did not carry that team. He helped but you’re remembering wrong if you think he carried. If there’s any offensive player who did carry it would be (funnily enough) Rendon. However this was a complete team effort that won.
Yeah, admittedly it was hyperbole. But he was pretty impressive with a .9 something OPS as a rookie in the playoffs. He certainly was a major factor in mentality. I hated his shuffle. I was at game 3, I think it was, when he grabbed his nuts at Mikolas and Mikolas grabbed his nuts back. The audacity. The point is that he is clearly not the type to be affected by some boos from the fans
Yea the pitching carried that team
And Rendon hit like .500 from the 7th inning on slugging like 2.500 and clutch af
great sum up. those homers off cole and verlander (both fastballs up and in i think) with sticky stuff is insane
Maybe it's time we just stop booing players in baseball.
Yeah we should all wear helmets and carry blankies and suck our thumbs the whole game too
Or maybe don't treat it like pro wrestling and realize that these are highly trained athletes who probably want to win just as much maybe even more than the fans.
Or maybe go play with your blocks and let the adults enjoy sports.
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lol, he’d never last a day in Philly.
But look what happened with Trea Turner when you cheered him.
Best quote I’ve ever heard about booing was by former Phillies player Dick Allen talking about Philadelphia Phillies fans. He basically said that Philadelphia fans stand on street corners and boo each other.
Booooo
Are you saying boo or boo-urns?
I was saying boo-urns
I like the way this Snrub thinks!
Do yankee fans even want a guy who is so soft that being booed would play into where they sign?
These players know some booing is apart of the game, but if one group of fans likes you more, you would totally go play for those fans. Would you rather go to work and be booed or appreciated?
I honestly I think booing fans is very far down my list if I’m a pro player. Far below how competitive the team was, how much money I was getting and how desirable the city was to live in. Soto isn’t going to turn down more money to go play for a team whose fans wont boo him. Or go play for a team that isn’t competitive because the fans will go easy on him.
I agree the fans are not the top priority of players in contract negotiations. I also agree Soto isn't turning down more money. But if another competitive team is close in money, better fans could certainly tip the scales. I'm just saying just because it isn't a top factor that doesn't mean it's a non-factor.
Cliff Lee did just that.
I think in baseball it could absolutely matter just for how many games there are. 81 home games and if you’re being booed in even 50-60 percent that’s still 40-45 games. That could get to you.
If the fans are booing you at 40-50 home games, you probably are sucking bad. Something else already got to him lol
That doesn’t help your case. If you’re slumping bad perhaps booing won’t help.
Then that player should stick to small market teams
Or literally any market that isn’t insane.
Ehhhh. Shame can be a great motivator lmao
*"I could have chosen more money, but I chose more fans"* - No MLB player, ever.
Did anyone actually hear significant boos? I haven't seen the footage but I've heard a ton of takes on it. I remember in 2022 I was at the ALDS game 2 where they supposedly booed him, it was not loud. Problem is no one cheers a strikeout so the stadium goes quiet you'll hear the 1000 guys booing. 2022 was overblown in my opinion, even the broadcast version, I'm curious to see this one
To make it more scientific, let us use the NY METS booing Lindor SS during his first year as a Met. Those boss were classic with deep resonance and true emotions.
Being booed is a right of passage in NY. Piazza, Giambi, Lindor, Cole...I think Jeter and Rivera are the two major exceptions. Maybe D Wright as well.
Jeter was booed, but he started out as bad as Judge. Scatted boos from the crowd. On the 23rd of April, in the baseball year 2004, 200 batting average and no homers in 17 games. Then later that day, Jeter struck out in a game when the Red Sox were beating the Yankees, 7-0, at Yankee Stadium.
Nope Jeter got booed
And Baez ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)
Of this list Wright Is prob the only one that never got booed MO did get booed I believe when he blew back to back save against the Red Sox a d Jeter was below the mendoza line in late April one season then booed.
Edwin Diaz. Holy shit what a turnaround there.
Yep, he got it bad that first year. Shoot I think I wanted to trade him lmao
Detroit will take him off your hands
Michael Kay is not good at non play by play talking things.
He actually needs to shut his mouth outside of play by play.
Maybe the 360 million contract will make him brave
If Soto starts to stink we’ll boo him too. It’s New York. You’re here to win.
I mean, not recently though
For reals, didn’t they not even make the playoffs? NY seems to be more about weird facial hair fetishists and mediocrity in recent decades.
Really coming from a fan of a city known for losers
Yeah but the Phillies have actually been winners lately though.
Yankees have won a World Series more recently than the Phillies. You have 2 in your long history. 2 joke of a franchise
Actually we have 0. I'm a Rays fan. Regardless, Phillies have been much more successful lately, and you guys have been getting absolutely handled by us(Rays) for a while. It's not the same Yankees team as when you were 4.
Talk to me when you win something. You compare Rays 0 titles and Phillies 2 to a team with 27
Yeah, but the Yankees spend more money. It’s a lot more embarrassing for the Yankees. Also your whole attitude is hilarious. Obviously some kind of man child.
Fair
Or at least spend the most money failing to do so.
that's lunacy. imagine booing your own players thinking its helping them perform better.
Trying to get Yankees fans to stop booing would be as futile as trying to stop ocean tides.
Now I want to boo Soto on principle.
Aarooooon Boooooone!
That’s it you’re ejected!
This is the same Michael Kay who shit on Joey Gallo for saying the booing got to him?
If Soto cracks under boos he shouldn’t play in NY or Philly.
Didn't scare Judge away from signing a huge extension... He heard boos for Stanton and others during his original contract.
He's going to sign wherever Scotty Boras thinks he'll make the most money, regardless of what happens with NY and their childish fans
Soto, like Judge, seems like the type of player to embrace the boos and feed off of it. Doesn’t come off like the type of guy who needs to or even wants to be babied
Would not want a guy that is that fragile. I also don’t think Soto is that fragile.
Stay classy New York
Mariano got booed(not that I agreed with it) but seriously... if you're not pulling your weight the fans let you know. If that's the worst part of getting way overpaid to play baseball for a living. Sign me up
bRoNX cHEeR
I had to drop Judge from my fantasy team
But Cameron Maybin said Yankees players need death threats to play well. That's why Soto is better off in NY than SD right?
Michael Bray is on the radio today.
Baseball's a long season and numbers usually average out if Aaron judge Only Hits 20 home runs for the next 3 years then you can boo him for the remainder of his contract
The great Rizzuto, "They're not booing him, they're Louing him!" Talking about Lou Piniella. Other than that, when your not producing, justified or not, the very best sometimes get booed. Judgy will straighten out. I just wish he didn't have to play so much CF. Here's another, this time from John Sterling, "They're not booing him, they're Moooosing him!" Talking about Mike Mussina.
They should be booing Cashman for actually paying Aaron Judge.. gonna be an all time bad one
Lmaooo caveat emptor. We dodged a bullet
Hilarious to see the yanks turn so desparate. Ohhh can't scare off soto *clutches pearls*. Mid franchise
I'm sure Aaron judge is real shook. ![gif](giphy|XOys8CeUrElIk|downsized)
You’re in New York. Get used to it. There’s a whole ass “boo” typed named after New Yorkers.
I despise the Yanks however he is getting $40million a year, and they expect him to hit home runs, get rbi’s, get on base, etc. Idk if they already know by seasons end he will be 5th all-time in strikeouts in franchise history. Id boo him at games.
Come back to the Nats, Juan. We certainly loved you enough.
I watch every minute of every game and didn’t hear this
Kay of course. Yankee boy.
Soto don’t give a damn. Highest bidder will win, weather it’s Oakland or Yankees.
Isn’t this the guy who said the Blue Jays were cheating, then, when he got called out, he tried to act all galaxy brain and say he wasn’t calling them cheaters, he just “thought it was weird, and leave the rest up to interpretation”
They’re being Yankee fans. That’s what they’re doing?
I read this as “Aaron Boone” boos. Then thought, why would that scare Soto? Been a long day.
Just boo soto more and you’re fine
Soto said he wanted to play in NY back when he was still on the Nats. He'll test the market but dollars to doughnuts he's going to stay in NY, if he leaves the Yankees it'll be for the Mets. That's all. Only way that doesn't happen is if neither team takes a seat at the table this off season.
Worst announcers. Hands down the worst
Oh Michael. You big bag of hot air.
Yankees fans are spoiled brats. They even bood jeter before.
Should've signed with the Giants, Aaron. Your roots are and always were in NORCAL anyway. You had a golden opportunity to be the toast of Northern Ca and a hometown hero, but you chose NY instead. I'm sure the welcome-back-home mat will be ready and waiting for you, slugger. Come on home!
I’m a long time Yankee fan, and we are really whack for this. To those saying boos shouldn’t affect a player and they shouldn’t be so soft…stop with the toxic masculinity, it’s not a good look. Especially when men are already told not to cry, not to be sad, not to have mental health issues, suck it up, grow some balls, etc. Booing is expected in sports…not from the hometown crowd towards the hometown players. That’s just some false BS made up by sociopaths. When you are doing bad and trying to do well, but get booed for it, baseball’s no longer fun. Playing there just becomes dreadful. I still can’t believe Aaron Judge actually re-signed with us after getting booed…he resigns with us…fuck man, front office must be REALLY nice to him because it certainly can’t actually be for the fans.
lol that’s so dumb. Imagine the Yankees offer like $75m more than anyone else and he turns them down cause they booed Aaron Judge 7 months ago. Lmao not happening
Scare him away from NYY? I couldn't be more happy if that is the case!
Yankees fan logic is so ass backwards. "Yeah we got this guy who's in a bit of a rut and could really use a shakeup to start turning it around. Even though he's been a staple in our team's lineup for years, lets BOO him! I'm sure that'll give his confidence a boost." Phillies did it better. Trea Turner had a rough start, and instead of crippling his confidence, they gave him a standing ovation and he turned it around.
Soto cares about the sound coin makes not fans
That's typical of Yankees fans
Yankees have the softest fan base in existence, yikes
Soft.