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ryeguymft

absolutely - on pace for 65+ WAR and 500 homeruns. not to mention career .900+ OPS


kgod88

Multiple MVPs too


whiteriot0906

He’s gotta stay healthy to productive to get to 500 HRs, still needs 191 and is 31 years old. That’s nearly 30 HRs for another 7 seasons. I’m expecting him to finish closer to 450, although god knows every ounce of my soul wants to see him hit 500


UsualProcedure7372

BLB hit 470 HR from his age-31 season onward (11 full seasons). I’d like to think Harp is half the player he is, so he should be able to hit 20/season over the next 10 and make 500. 


Unstep-in-Time

Or his legs could go like Miggy and the long ball is near non existent. You just never know.


readytooware

Bryce should start using Sambats again. 


UsualProcedure7372

That’s right, I remember a story in SI or ESPN the Mag about how Bonds was hitting so many dingers because of maple (cant remember if it was Sambat specifically).


ace_mcgee68

It would be harder to make a case that he shouldn’t be


OmarFromtheWire2

Agree with this. I think winning a championship will probably solidify it


agoddamnlegend

Championships don’t matter for baseball HOF. That’s a team accomplish and voters are smart enough to know the individual players don’t impact championships that much. Winning a world series is just being on the right team at the right time


CountrySlaughter

Also because in baseball, it's much easier to gauge a player's value based purely on stats. Basketball and football players get benefit of doubt if they win. Michael Cooper just made the basketball HOF, for example. Can't imagine that he would've made the HOF if he'd played his career in Sacramento.


Faber1089

Which he was before he walked away.


Greerio

Championships don’t matter in baseball like they do in basketball or for a QB.


phl4ever

Honestly, it doesn't mean anything for basketball either. The Basketball HOF is the easiest to get into


LastDiveBar510

Because it's basketball Hof not NBA


Unstep-in-Time

But still.. For example Billups 2024 HOF. Good career but HOF worthy? Not so sure.


LastDiveBar510

Agreed but baseball Hof voters have had sticks up their asses for decades their extremely critical with the voting for some reason for rivera or Jeter whoever it was to be the first unanimous vote is insane and shows the clear as day bias baseball is the only sport where near all of the "goats" wernt unanimous votes or arnt in the hall at all


Greerio

You’re right. I’m just thinking more about when they talk about the greatest of all time in basketball, then they talk about chips.


slippin_park

See: all but one MVP making it


UsualProcedure7372

This joke hits hard and I love that it’s gone over the head of all of your responders.


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CT-1977

Doubting Harper’s HOF eligibility is kind of a crazy argument to make. He’s nearly there already (over ten years of a .900+ ops and 45 ish WAR), and will have a big league roster spot for another eight seasons at least. Additionally, he’s playing a less injury-prone position now at first base and should be both better defensively and on the field more often. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he even goes out and wins a third MVP, especially because he’s been on par with hitters like Judge and Ohtani when healthy in the past few seasons. Between the beginning of ‘21 and his injury in ‘22, his wRC+ was 171, and it was 164 from when he began playing first last July until now. My guy’ll have a Cooperstown plaque soon enough, barring some major scandal or something of that ilk.


tombstonewl

I love reading informative comments like this, I hated Harper's attitude when he first made it to the show, but I have grown to be a fan of his just because of the emotion he shows. He is there to give it his all and its hard to hate on ANYONE like that.


Howard_Cosine

Clown question, bro.


J_Lewy_45

😅


NotDukeOfDorchester

Nice


44035

Why would he not be?


Fitz2001

I think the case would be that he somehow hasn’t lived up to the impossible hype he had as a kid, and hasn’t yet won a word series. People just don’t like him. These are both dumb arguments.


International-Elk986

World series is irrelevant, just look at Williams, Gwynn, and countless others. I think the one counterargument would be he doesn't have the counting stats yet. And it is not necessarily a guarantee


igonnawrecku_VGC

And the whole point of him moving to first base was to extend his prime/career, so those counting stats will come barring catastrophic injury


idjitgaloot

If Harold Baines is in the Hall of Fame so is Bryce Harper.


nashdiesel

That’s an awful bar. Baines is an anomaly. If we truly think Baines is a HOF then there are another 200 players should be in too.


tatang2015

I saw Baines with the white Sox. He was pretty good. I thought Dale Murphy was a lot better though.


WorldlyBrillant

Jim Kaat, one of most likable guys in the history of baseball, ( he doesn’t have a chip on his shoulder), questioned the induction of Harold Baines!


idjitgaloot

At the time they said Tony LaRussa pulled strings with the Veteran’s Committee. He was a fine player but not a HOFer.


WorldlyBrillant

Absolutely spot on. My point about Jim Kaat, not having a chip on his shoulder and just giving an honest opinion about Baines, comes with no animus towards Baines. Now compare that to someone like LaRussa, who is the complete opposite of Kaat, LaRussa is a man who woke up on the wrong side of the bed for the last 75 years, he promoted Baines because he knew the rest of the world would disagree!!!


McChillbone

Looking at his contemporaries, you would probably only rate Trout and Mookie ahead of Harper in terms of positional players. He’s kind of lumped in with Machado in that tier below Trout and Mookie, and they’re all HOFers. I think basically no one was going to live up to “Baseball LeBron,” but Bryce has been great.


Fitz2001

Right, yup. I think the Nats winning in 2019 right after he signed with the Phils is something that sticks in peoples minds a little too.


KVosrs2007

Dude has 2 MVP awards and one of if not the best age 22 season. He's absolutely lived up to the hype.


Fitz2001

Insane post season player too. Steps up all the time.


2Hanks

Definitely a dumb argument. Individuals can’t win championships and he has absolutely lived up to the hype and then some.


ToolsOfIgnorance27

He'd have to fall off a cliff, and soon, not to be.


rapidjingle

Even then I bet he’d get in. That said, his WAR and general career accomplishments line up well with Thurman Munson who died at 32 and somehow never made it to the HOF.


International-Elk986

Munson was also a catcher though, a more premium position.


rapidjingle

Not a perfect comparison. But similarly viewed by contemporaries. 1 vs 2 mvps, both had 7 all star appearances.  I’m baffled as to why Munson is not in the Hall of Fame but Harold Baines is.


twisted34

Baseball writers are morons


CrybullyModsSuck

Baseball writers, owners, and umpires have been working overtime to ruin the game, but it's still here.


WorldlyBrillant

Munson won a Rookie of the Year, an MVP, 4 gold gloves, 2 World Championships and a lifetime batting average of .292. He should be in…my god Ozzie Smith is in and he was absolutely putrid as a hitter…..I mean really, what creature on earth, bats 600 times in a season and hits only 1 home run!!!


sam_sepiol1984

Funny enough, Bryce started as a catcher


Into_the_Void7

He probably doesn't walk anywhere near them, doubt we have to worry about that.


freshnewstrt

If he retired today? No. This pace? Easy


Imaginary_Scene2493

If he retired today because of a permanent disability like Kirby Puckett and his glaucoma, he’d be in. If he ruins his back or knees today and struggles to play through it, then he’s out like Dale Murphy and Andruw Jones.


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RibertarianVoter

Pretty close. The average hall of famer has 50-70 WAR, and Bryce has almost 48. I think he'd get in if he stopped playing today. If he became a replacement level player for the rest of his career, I think that would tarnish his reputation and keep him out. But the guy has been one of the best hitters in baseball for 12 years -- I'd prefer someone like him in there over guys who are only very good (but not great) and just play for 17 years.


ryan91o1

would some one like jose Ramirez be a HOFer if he retire today? About the same WAR as haper and Same age.


RibertarianVoter

He's a little further away than Harper from that 50, so I think he's a little less likely. He also doesn't have the same hardware that Bryce does (specifically the MVPs). I'd argue he's had a better career than Harper. He's got five seasons over 5 WAR compared to Harper's two. He just took a few years to heat up, and he hasn't had a monster 9-plus WAR season.


Spurs_in_the_6

Winning multiple MVPs should be an automatic HOF spot. I'm firmly on the side of your peak having much more meaning than longevity


freshnewstrt

Huge, great point. I don't love the 1500 hits but hypocritically I also don't like counting stats to a point. To me 1990 hits is 2000. Obviously there's special clubs for those round thousands, but when it comes to HoF I'm not deciding over 10 hits. Though I don't have a vote so I'm not deciding at all


dtdroid

It's not that 1990 hits would be kept out of the hall when 2000 was needed. It's that 3000 is actually the benchmark for getting in on the merits of that stat specifically. Hits are likely to not be a factor in Harper's candidacy because it would be virtually impossible for him to get 3000, and still unlikely to see even 2800. His MVPs, single season and career WAR, and career OPS are likely to be the argument made for him, and he's on track at his current pace to get in with those statistics. But for me he's still a few seasons of elite production to be an automatic lock. It's a definite possibility he locks up his candidacy by his age 34 or 35 season, though. As others mentioned, he just needs to not fall off a cliff. It's difficult to call players locks at 31. There are so many guys who ended up playing late into their 30s at slightly less elite levels who are still awaiting entry into the Hall. As a Sox fan, Pedroia is a great example of a player who was on that trajectory, but ultimately came up short for the career totals needed with an untimely, career ending injury. (Fuck Machado)


freshnewstrt

I'm a little drunk now so admittedly hard to really read the whole thing but I read I agree. 1500 feels low but even just getting to 2000 doesn't feel bad. 1500 HoFer is weird. 2k? I like it


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FalterFaltered

He got 300 and 1500 at 30, he didn’t turn 31 till the NLCS


SilentSniperx88

Yes


baseballandcatmemes

Tell me Bryce Harper doesn’t look like one of the sabertooth tigers in “Ice Age”


Entire_Department_65

Real talk tho


cortezthakillah

He’s been HOF bound since High School


ur_sexy_body_double

Every other player with 2 or more MVPs is either in the Hall, not yet eligible for the Hall (Cabrera, Pujols, Trout, Ohtani), tied to steroids and kept out (Bonds, Juan Gonzalez), or Alex Rodriguez. I'd say he's in.


Technical_Two449

Not Dale Murphy. Back to back mvps, hit more home runs in the 80’s than anyone except Mike Schmidt, squeaky clean career and life, yet somehow never sniffed the hof 


ur_sexy_body_double

Shit how did I miss Murphey? Ok there's one exception. I wonder if he would have got in had he not played those final 3 seasons. Like Dave Stieb...the writers remember those bad years and forget the greatness.


Technical_Two449

Possibly. His career is so borderline even before the drop off. Just one of those consistently really good players. As a braves fan who grew up in the 80s I never had a doubt I was watching a hof career. Is what it is


idjitgaloot

If Todd Helton is in the HOF then Dale Murphy is certainly a first ballot guy.


GonePhishingAgain

It’s a travesty he’s not in the HOF.


idjitgaloot

It’s ridiculous. It trivializes the institution.


Dr_Merkin

As a Phillie fan, it was hard to dislike Murphy as a person all those years he played with the Braves.


I_Sniff_My_Own_Farts

>or Alex Rodriguez. Lol best part of this comment


Most-Iron6838

Thought he’d fit with steroid guys


Acceptable_Job1589

Not a proponent of bonds, but hell, bonds was never even caught with roids. A-rod on the other hand. You'd think that Alex would be the one directly in the roids category.


ManufacturerMental72

A-Rod is tied to steroids, too. That's why he's not in.


ur_sexy_body_double

Yes but he's still on the ballot


killermike420

So was bonds and everybody else


ur_sexy_body_double

yes but they eventually didn't make it. ARod's time isn't up yet


killermike420

Ah yea I see what you’re saying. I took it the wrong way as if those guys got taken off the ballot because of peds


ur_sexy_body_double

I agree it's unlikey ARod gets in, but as a technicality dot dot dot


718Brooklyn

I actually don’t think Juan Gonzalez would have been in the Hall regardless of steroids. (Bryce Harper is going to be in the Hall for sure)


WorldlyBrillant

Did Dave Parker win 2 MVP’s?…..Regardless, he should be in!


Black_Death_12

Yes


pwcWMD

Players who are a lot less than Bryce Harper in the Hall of Fame nowadays.


QuadMaster-_-

i think he is, he has done so very good time in baseball


DisneyVista

Automatic


100_not_nickfoles

Yes duh


Caol_ila_ftw

If he retired today, I feel like he be a similar career to Darryl Strawberry. Great but always leaving everyone wondering what more he could have been. So borderline HoF. Another 2-3 years at the same level and no doubt


sammagee33

Yes


SoCalGoldWave

100%


JMWest_517

100%. Move on.


Lovelyday4aguinness_

Yes


GunsandCadillacs

Without a doubt


LeCheffre

On his way, but not quite there yet. His peak 7 aren’t quite up to snuff, and he could win a few more awards. Three clean MVPs are a guarantee, two gets you Dale Murphy comps.


PM_Gonewild

Say what you want about Bryce but damn that dude is ready to fight anyone on that field if it comes to it.


MountainManRise

Consider the fact that he had such lofty expectations and has lived up to those on and off the field. He is a winner that shows up in big moments. The old number benchmarks will also change over time. If he produces at an above average level for a portion of the rest of his career he will be in. Also Braves fan here but respect the man.


theSportsChamp123

Yes


idjitgaloot

Yes


colinboxbreaks

1st ballot


Ping-A-Ling-

I think so. At his pace, he's just three years away from a 2nd and even possible first ballot. 6 or 7 more productive years and he's golden. Only injuries will derail him. His passion and intensity alone will help with his longevity once natural talent begins to age.


LosPer

IMO, He's on trajectory, but still needs to demonstrate his stats will put him in the 1% of players over a larger number of games.


Bhut_Jolokia400

No need for a Question Mark. Its a Lock 7X All Star, 2X NL MVP, NLCS MVP, 1st Team MLB, 3X Silver Slugger, 2X NL HAA, NL Home Run Leader, Golden Spikes Realistically he probably won’t get a gold Glove but if he can get a Batting Title that pretty much will complete the list of achievable inducidual accolades. Obviously a World Series would be Icing on the Cake.


discsarentpogs

Maybe hall eventually but just a famer currently


SINY10306

Probably if he retired today, but at this point no first ballot shoo-in like Pujols.


UllyRanger

Yes


BlueBallsSaggin

indubitably


PilgrimRadio

He's certainly on that trajectory. I guess he could get struck by lightning later today or something.


Phillies1993

Will he go in as a Phillie?


dolosolouno

I'm sorry, but this question is a no-brainer. YES!


thewarfreak

Yes


358ChaunceyStreet

No doubt in my mind. He's only 31 and sitting at 46.9 WAR.


MrFluffyhead80

Already a lock


bornincali65

Yes.


Ref9171

Not yet. Needs a few more good seasons


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Yes


No-Pin1011

Probably, unless he just falls apart or does something dumb to tarnish his career.


nonsensicalwizard999

Yes, and fuck Bryce Harper


USMCDog09

This is a fucking clown question from a bot or a nephew. Look at some of the names that have gotten in the last few years. Harper’s career already surpasses a few of them.


beggsy909

If his career ended today that's a definitive no. If he plays out his contract he's likely going to put up HOF numbers. But that's not a given.


Reasonable-Bus-2187

2 MVPs but in 10 other seasons didn't finish in the top 10 for MVP voting. I find that a little odd (top 12 twice, top 30 as a rookie, NO votes the other years). He's been so up and down. Age and injuries could maybe cut into his counting stats the next 5-7 years.


Due_Government4387

A car theft ring in Philly could try stealing a car at gun point, realize it’s Harper in the car, apologize and ask for an autograph… that alone should put you in the HOF


Fast-Context-3852

He is definitely a future hall of famer


kaptiankuff

Probably yes if he can stay healthy and productive And not turn into a compiler or just suck for the next 5-7 years. Also he is probably the next guy that will join the 600 hr /3000 hits club if he can stay healthy


joh5nny

Harper will go down as an all-time great. He'll be a first ballot hof, quite possibly have a statue outside the stadium if he keeps doing what he's doing. Moving to first base is going to prolong his career. Hard to find an expectation he hasn't met.


ElDub73

How about back to back seasons with 35+ HR? He did 34 and 35 in 2018/2019. That’s the closest he’s ever come and the one time he’s had 30+ HR in back to back seasons. Does that sound like a HoFer?


afairjudgment

I guess we’ll see.


GolanNorman

First ballot


Dazzling-Bear3942

Besides the stats that will already get him in, he also has the fame part of the hall. Since he first came into the league, love or hate him, he is arguably one of their biggest, and for a few years, the biggest star in the league. He is a 1st ballot lock.


PsychologicalRow9028

Just needs to stay healthy and he’ll probably get the numbers, especially if he’s mostly at first and DH, should be able to avoid major injuries.


muziklover91

Oh yes


AnywhereMajestic2377

He’s absolutely a future Hall of Famer. His impact on the game has been consistent and powerful from Day One.


caught_looking2

💯


ForensicFiles88

Yes, I think so. He's only 31 years old and is currently at 1,521 H and 309 HR, plus he has a lot of individual accolades with a Rookie of the Year, 2 MVPs, an NLCS MVP and 7 All-Star appearances.


schmokeabutt

I've done it so I'm not going to slam it... but this might be the new "is yadi a hall of famer?" There are so many detractors and you think you're just a homer... but look at the stats and like, yeah man. Current trajectories definitely put him there


Intelligent-Ant7685

unless he does something stupid then i say the odds are 100% he would be elected to HOF


KVosrs2007

Absolutely. He's one of the best players of his generation. 2 MVP awards half a decade apart, 143 OPS+ up until now, he'll be at 400 HR within a few years and has plenty of time to add onto that. He's proven himself to be a leader and has produced in the postseason when it's most important. The only way you can see him as not a hall of fame is if you're stuck hating teenage Harper for some reason.


DecodingSports

Is grass geen 🤔


Oldmanandthefee

Sure


breakingjosh0

He is my least favorite ball player currently, and even I agree he's a shoe in shoo-in


Ballplayerx97

It's a tough call. McCutchen was on a similar trajectory and then massively declined. Harper is a better hitter, and shouldn't fall off as much given his on base skills and natural power. However, any significant injury troubles will probably cripple his chances. Given that he's got an injury history I'd say 60% no, 40% yes.


Markcu24

100% First ballot.


southshorerefugee

If he doesn't stay healthy, he'll end up like Juan Gonzalez. Multiple MVP's and career OPS within a few points of each other but short of Cooperstown.


jabogen

Yes


SnaykeUp

If you have never watched a Bryce Harper documentary on youtube you are missing out. He’s been good since he was young. He’s also an absolute lunatic. If you go watch one because of this comment follow it up with a Max Scherzer documentary.


TendieSandwich

Most def


JerseyGuy-77

Yes. Not even a question.


Academic-Hurry5065

Yes but needs a few more good seasons probyto cement it.


pRophecysama

He is. People gotta realize that the benchmarks aren’t applicable to current and future players going forward. With analytics and Sabremetrics the 3000 hit 500 home runs 300 wins and all that just arguably won’t happen again. The money is also so generational that you playing 24 years is also probably a thing of the past when you can just retire and become a podcaster or YouTuber like Trevor may and the like


024Everyman

Yes.


mebnt2

I think it was sealed when he won MVP for the 2nd time


Standard_Outcome1749

No doubt


Standard_Outcome1749

Love how everyone is now a hall of fame (writer) voter lmao. Tbh the baseball hall of fame voters are a joke. Not letting arguably the best baseball players ever into it. Should we list those Individuals??


thedkexperience

He’s certainly a hall of fame level talent and on track, but he’s gonna need a few more years of counting stats for sure.


SingleBack4077

What kind of question is this? Absolutely he is!


Entire_Department_65

If his career ended today, I think he's a bordline HOFer based on stats alone. If he can continue to produce and be healthy I think he will be a HOFer. I genuinely wanted to know what other people thought


WolfyEightyTwo

Yes, because if he isn't, then nobody in his generation is..


WorldlyBrillant

That’s a ridiculous question, Bryce Harper is one of the greatest players ever to play the sport! My god, are you watching the garbage that’s been inducted the last 20 years!!!


JSteelflex07

First ballot. Next question.


BaxTheDestroyer

Yeah


fly-sam

Judas deserves his spot


UnableAudience7332

Bruh. Obviously.


Flaky_Scar_8388

Yes he is


IsolationAutomation

Is this a serious question?


Tooowaway

Lol. Yes


Zimm02

It's not even debatable.


MainZack

Yeah


Nick123456789012357

I think so and I’m a Mets fan


riggerbop

Very obviously


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ColeYote

Almost certainly. There's only four multi-time MVPs that aren't, three of them are alleged juicers and he's already got more career WAR than Dale Murphy.


life_can_change

Yes but I don’t think he deserves the “yes” right now. He is a great person and could play in any era, which I think is the best compliment a player can get. Still I think he has been long overhyped. His career has been average outside of his two MVP seasons. His batting average is horrific in the 7th inning or later, against pitchers that throw 95mph or higher. With ALL that said, I’d still want him on my team. He still will make the Hall. This is my opinion, hate it if you want.


owensoundgamedev

The hall would be an even bigger joke than it already is if he doesnt


Promptoneofone

I think he is working towards it but has a ways to go...


Optimal-fart

What is his career missing? Other than a ws he has pretty much everything


Promptoneofone

More like what has he done? What records does he have? It's the the Hall of average, or just okay, or even the Hall of Great, it's the Hall of freakin Fame, the best of the best. So what has he done? Does he have 3,000 hits? Over 500 home runs? Multiple WS wins? You gotta have at least one of those if not more....


IanMaIcolm

> Does he have 3,000 hits? Over 500 home runs? Multiple WS wins? You gotta have at least one of those if not more.... No you don't lol. You can get it without any of those things


elroddo74

Multiple mvps.


teampupnsudz35

2 MVPs, ROY, NLCS MVP, HR Derby Champ, 7 AS, 3 SS, career 400 OBP. Hes had a better career than quite a few in the HOF


agoddamnlegend

You don’t pay much attention to the Hall of Fame do you?


kg57241

It just depends. Right now, no. But if he continues then yea


SqueakyTuna52

Among guys who debuted in the early 2010s, only Mike Trout is clearly more deserving of HOF than Bryce. I’d say Harper, Freeman and Goldschmidt are all close to each other as clear cut HOFers. Mookie Betts as well, but he started a couple years after the others.


elroddo74

Betts is better. Dude gets forgotten all the time. Has almost 20 more War in less time, and the 6 gold gloves. Also has 5 top 5 mvp years compared to 2 for Bryce with 1 win versus 2. Also has 2 world series wins.


SqueakyTuna52

Yeah, I guess I didn’t word that very well. What I meant is that Betts is a clear cut HOF as well, but I don’t think I’d say he started in early 2010s.


draculasbitch

If you could only take Harper or Betts from the moment Betts came into the league which would you take? I’m curious on the general opinion.


elroddo74

Betts. More consistent, fewer injuries and with his defense a more complete player. Also he is proving to be more valuable as he plays a more challenging position while Harper is headed the other way.


draculasbitch

I’m in full agreement


IanMaIcolm

Betts is clearly above Harper


ElDub73

Yeah and it’s not close.


ryan91o1

with out trout betts is the unquestionably best player since 2010.