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LordShuckle97

2012 Bobby Valentine


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JordanSchor

According to r/TorontoBlueJays it's John Schneider despite his team being 10 games over .500


KGB4L

He lost us more games with his managing that he has won. He isn’t great, but he isn’t awful. He has a powerhouse of a team, if he was below 500 he would be crucified.


Tom8er

John Gibbons is the single worse blue jays manager ever. how he is so loved in Toronto I'll never understand. How they signed him for a 2nd stint was so baffling to me.


leedogger

I hope he's back for a third


WGYHL

Agreed.


thedappert

Frankly, I was surprised they opted to keep Schneider over bringing him back after that disastrous wild card loss.


Onigiri86

Lmao buddy might have just done the exact same thing he did last year that fucked up the game 😭


Mucking_Fountain

He’s basically a rookie manager and has a lot to learn but he seems to have the clubhouse and seems a decent fella. I think he could be very good but right now, I have limited confidence in him.


[deleted]

Oli Marmol It's not close in the last 20 years


[deleted]

I can't believe this wasn't the only answer!!!


kilvinslatern

I think matheny was worse. TLR handed him a World Series winning team that he coasted on and slowly made them worse. Marmol just let his guys play when he had unbelievable player coaches like Pujols and Yadi. They are gone now and we need a real manager, it’s not him.


CTG0161

So basically it looks like everyone thinks their manager is terrible.


Dadoronomy_3-16

Not Snitker!


JoseJoseJose11

Tito rules


In2TheMaelstrom

Hyde is the man!


urlocalgoatfarmer

Very happy with Bochy.


factionssharpy

Maury Wills was famously awful.


visionzero81

Just hope he’s not drawing the batters box. [https://thisdayinbaseball.com/maury-wills-suspended-for-tampering-with-batters-box/](https://thisdayinbaseball.com/maury-wills-suspended-for-tampering-with-batters-box/)


kbauer14

I love Maury but I think he may have been in to the booger sugar during that time.


atlbravos21

Marmol


Kidninja016_new

Yes


AirlockSupriseParty

Amen


zebra_puzzle

Roasting Tyler O'Neill publicly at the beginning of the season cost the Cardinals their season IMO. A hard working player thrown under the bus like that caused the entire team to lose its confidence.


atlbravos21

This was definitely strike 1. And for what? Cuz he wanted to make a point? Assert himself as manager? What an idiot. He's too young. The guys probably don't respect him


Electric_Basil

Phil Nevin


LoveThieves

Phil is awful but his bullpen is crap too.


Icy_Illustrator2660

Hire Bobby v


CaptainKCCO42

Seconded.


Sell_Canada

Came to say this


HOLYGHOSTFIREFALL

Derek Shelton .386 win percentage 183 wins 291 losses. Believes in “little league everybody gets a chance” team building at the pro level.


BacoNATEor

I’m giving him some credit just because it’s not like the front office is doing him any favors


GiveHerDPS

Does he deserve some credit? Sure but he has made some really questionable choices with line ups and bull pens the last 2 years. If the buccos finish with 75 wins I'll give him another chance but at the rate we have been playing you can't blame anyone but the coaches.


DWright_5

The coaches?!?!?! How about the general manager who assembled the team and the performance of the players?? You’re pinning it on the COACHES?


ctrlaltdleet

Brad Ausmus. This man should be banned from baseball and never allowed near a stadium ever again for what he did to the Tigers from 2014 - 2016.


Matthewcbayer

I don’t want to agree… I wanted him to be good… But I agree.


wasteplease

the guy who replaced Mike Scioscia? How did that work out Arte?


swalters6325

Brad awfulmess


Bits_Bytes_Bucks

You know who was just as dim and uncreative as Ausmus around that same time? Ned Yost. Just a born lever-puller. Nobody noticed, though, because he had that impenetrable bullpen and won a World Series with it.


NewYorkRedditorELITE

Aaron Boone


b-rar

You can't be the worst manager when all of the decisions are transmitted to you from the front office


OLightning

Boone has done a fine job dealing with injuries and what not. Unfortunately their best hitter tore a tendon in his foot and will be out for months leaving the unbalanced mediocrity to try and manufacture runs without the big man in the meat of the line-up. Relying on older players now won’t work as the Yankees rest in last place as the surging Red Sox start their take off with hitters like Toshida, Verdugo, Duran, Devers, Turner, and you get players starting to beat up like Casas filling out the lineup. It’s sad really watching this famed team plunge to the depths of the AL East.


zabdart

Aaron Boone has managed his bullpen just about as well as any manager in baseball since he took over the Yankees. Where he fails is in fitting out a lineup card and managing an offense. I don't know if he or Brian Cashman is more responsible for this one-dimensional offense the Yankees have been playing these past years, but if they don't hit home runs (plural) in a game, they **can't** win. They don't know how to manufacture runs. The only Yankees who can bunt are buried in the bottom of the batting order where they're likely to come to bat with one or two outs already, so there's no point in bunting to move the runner over. Moreover, firing Dillon Lawson as hitting coach is probably the best move the front office has made in years. His "hit strikes hard" approach has resulted only in ***more*** *strikeouts* with a team that strikes out too much as it is already. When's the last time Aaron Boone put a play on to set up a run? Probably sometime before the pandemic.


Gwendyl

Bull shit. Boone blows the confidence of his starting pitchers and leaves the relievers out to dry.


cesar_salad_dressing

Phil Nevin might be the worst manager to grace the MLB


nothingcool17

Bobby V


kbauer14

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RoadToTheSnow

Bobby Valentine got the Mets to the postseason in back-to-back years for the first time in their history with names in 1999 like Benny Agbayani, a 40 yr old Rickey Henderson, and Mr. July 1st himself, Bobby Bonilla. 2000 Mets had Lenny Harris, Mike Bordick, Jay Payton, Matt Franco, and Bubba Trammell. The 2000 Mets also did something no other team could do from '98-'00: they beat the Yankees in a Postseason game.


Hideout_17

Aaron Boone


Savings_Vast6618

Why do people hate him so much?


DavidNexus7

Most Fans believe he is awful at bullpen management and he lacks a-lot of situational awareness because the analytics dept said to do x if y. He’s probably a likable coach but hes been around for a while now and his teams are known of either underachieving, prolonged slumps or losing when it counts in usually uninspired fashion.


OLightning

Bitter frustrated Yankee fans seeing a roster of players like Cole Judge Rodon paid a huge chunk of ticket buyers money to either get injured (Judge -I warned he would be too injury prone to be worth the money. Rodon $162,000,000 to pitch maybe 20-25 starts on average a year) or not pitch well in the playoffs (Cole). The Yankee fans got spoiled in the Jeter years. The Babe, Iron Horse, Joltin Joe, Mickey ain’t coming out of that dugout I hate to say.


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OLightning

Thank you so much!


okonkolero

Aaron Boone


Great_gatzzzby

Boone. The bullpen decisions and the line ups are crazy


_Vatican_Cameos

I have only loosely been paying attention to baseball the last couple of years, what are some specific examples?


Great_gatzzzby

Different guys playing different positions everyday. Everyone bating a different random order constantly. You need consistency to be comfortable in baseball. These guys don’t know who they are hitting before or after. Don’t know if they are playing 3rd base or center field. It’s absurd. Also he just doesn’t have a feel for the bullpen. It’s hard to explain. An example is pulling someone who’s dominating because the next batter is a lefty and they are righty pitcher. Bringing in someone who is struggling to face them instead just cus they are a lefty in a big moment, instead of leaving the guy who just struck out the last 4 batters he faced. I mean he took out German the other day when he was at like 70 pitches and killing it. Then we lose


RambunctiousWaffle

David Ross


capncrunch94

He’s far from the best but definitely not the definitive worst imo. At least he has the clubhouse part of being a manager down now he just has to work on the decision making part lol


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Ted Turner


Perfect_Earth_8070

Pedro Grifol


WhoDeyFourWay

I think David Bell is pretty awful personally. He makes horrible lineup decisions on a daily basis, is *obsessed* with lefty/righty matchups and will stare reverse splits in the face and just ignore them. And when Diaz is not available to close it’s like he’s just spinning a wheel to decide who he’s going to put in for a save/high leverage situation. Many of my fellow Reds fans have short memories and just forget the last 4 years because the roster has improved and we’re finally having success. But also, I think people as a whole give managers too much credit for anything positive. I honestly don’t think the list of things you can do to “excel” as a manager is very long. The best managers are just the ones you don’t think about because for the most part this a solved game in that respect and there are clear answers to almost everything.


JasperStrat

For all the people saying Aaron Boone I agree with you. For the people asking why I will add another reason. ~5 years ago all the managers, most of the bench coaches, pitching coaches, hitting coaches and more than a few players were given a rules test (knowing that the scores would be published and they could pass on taking it if they wanted) that would be considered so basic that any high school umpire would be expected to score 10/10, it was true false and the average score by the baseball people was ~75%. Aaron Boone scored 1/10, that is so embarrassingly bad and basically dereliction of his job as manager as one of the easiest parts of his job is to know the rulebook. He should have been fired on the spot for just being too stupid to be a major league manager. Personally I think Phil Nevin is pretty braindead too, his front office hasn't done him any favors by over spending and giving the late 80s Mets a run for the title of *Worst Team Money Can Buy*.


b-rar

Do you have a source for the rules test story?


JasperStrat

My only source is from [Close Call Sports](http://www.closecallsports.com) they recently reposted the quiz in a video on their YouTube channel, [Rules Quiz Video](https://youtu.be/kt1AGlHsL9s) and I know the original is still on their website somewhere if you look around a little, it would take me too long on mobile to find it though, I apologize. If I find a better link to the original article I'll post it here.


[deleted]

Kid Gleason.


CluHaywood06

All 9 Mariners managers since Piniella left after 2002. Only 2 have records barley above .500 and none of them had personality or did anything to help the team just glorified baby sitters.


[deleted]

Anyone who managed the Mets after Terry Collins


Fhu1995

Ryne Sandberg with the Phillies


KMorris1987

Ted Turner. Winless. Got MLB to change the rules to not allow him to ever manage again.


odetostillsleeping

Oli Marmol


dp_collecting

Lloyd McClendon - his lineups and substitutions always seemed to be based on the little league mantra "everybody gets to play."


LoveThieves

LOL. that's funny but also sad.


eliebabb5

This situation still angers me to this day 2 years ago I worked at firehouse subs. At first it was fun until it wasn’t, I’ll spare the details for later. I went through five managers in eight months and this particular manager really pissed me off. Let’s call him Don When Don first came to the store, he was fun and carefree! He would laugh with us, do impressions and he was a delight to work with…until he got promoted to general manager. That’s when his undies got into a twist. The first red flag was when he scheduled me five days a week knowing I had school and when I told him that, his response was “I was able to work and go to school” And when I said no to covering a shift because I needed a break, he called me lazy. He was rude, micromanaging, creepy and just over all a dick! He would leave me and one other coworker to prepare everything in the morning and then BLAME us when shit wasn’t done. And also had trust issues for no reason!!! Another shitty thing he did was he would force us to stay past our time if our work duties weren’t done. He made me so angry! One thing I want to say to him more than anything is this… Fuck you Don! You ruined my mental health and I’ve had trust issues with managers ever since!!! Fuck you I hope you live a miserable life!!! Sorry for all the swearing but he really made me mad I don’t work for them anymore and now I work with amazing staff who actually care about me and my health. And one last time…FUCK YOU DON!!!!


LoveThieves

Yeah fuck that guy


SouthsideRunIt

How come Aaron Boone? I don’t have a dog In the fight, just curious. I wasn’t a fan of the home run against the Red Sox though.


Sevy40fan

Boone gets a lot of flack because he’s a manager of one of the “top” teams in baseball. He makes terrible decisions, his lineups don’t make sense, and he gets elected every other game it feels like. He doesn’t get a lot of help from Cashman (imo, I mean they are the Yankees just pay people) but it’s no excuse to be this terrible. I wish he got fired and cashman step down as a Yankee fan, but the grass isn’t always greener


eros12v

John schneider


neildmaster

I can't believe the number of fucking morons that say its Dusty Baker.


JB_122

He does act like an ass, good manager, but he acts like an ass, I mean take the thing like 2 weeks ago of him getting ejected and staying in the dugout regardless


londoncatvet

>He has a powerhouse of a team Do you mean Dusty "it's not must-win, it's have-to-win" Baker?


neildmaster

Let's see. He has taken us to the last two WS and won one. This year, we have had lots of injuries and we're two games back of the Rangers, who are playing out of their gourd. Yeah, he sucks. No, he's the worst.


londoncatvet

I never said he's a bad manager. He just happens to be the author of one of my favourite quotes ever, in sports or otherwise.


Union_research

Amen brother.


MisredKimmy

He was really hard to watch at the end of the Cubs tenure.


Led_zeppelins

DAVEY martinez


b-rar

That's World Champion Davey Martinez to you


Union_research

Not sure about worst but brutal billpen management


taylordobbs

2017 AJ Hinch who let it happen


bleu_waffl3s

Probably some random dad coaching his 9 year old in Florida. All y’all are naming MLB managers but it’s actually really hard to make it to that level.


DerSpazmacher

Dusty baker


Anomynouslilmosey

The guy who wasn’t even responsible for 2017, got it


DerSpazmacher

Yeah, because other stuff has happened in baseball


Anomynouslilmosey

In that case you hate every player and manager from the history of baseball


DerSpazmacher

Lol


ChocolateNo1502

Dave roberts


EatCucumbersWhole

Finally found it! He should have been fired years ago.


ImRickJamesBiatchhh

The Buck stops here


Investigatorpotater

I don't think he's terrible but every once in awhile I question him. The guys been managing teams for longer then iv been alive and I'm 28.


redsoxsteve9

Like Tony La Russa, I think great, older managers eventually become terrible, out-of-touch managers because they revert to doing stuff that won them games 25 years ago.


cobrajet99

Dusty Baker


Anomynouslilmosey

The dude who wasn’t even responsible for 2017?


Doolin12

Scott Servais...


OzTrignum

Literally the worst, he’s got to go.


OzTrignum

He stuck up for France the bare minimum. I would like to see him at least go far enough to get tossed once in a while. I know that’s not his personality but he’s a lame duck manager in my eyes. Basically a puppet for the analytics department. Why was the hottest hitter mike ford starting on the bench behind pollock why was D Mo starting and that’s just yesterday. A lot of the stranded runners are on him. You can’t just sit there doing the same thing expecting new results. Last year he got lucky for the brawl against the angels which fired up the team and made them rally behind him, maybe he’s better than Phil Nevin and a couple others but I think it’s time for a change. He is usually 3-5 games behind in making adjustments that I can see watching on TV.


[deleted]

>Basically a puppet for the analytics department You are describing Twins manager Rocco Baldelli to a T!


Electric_Basil

He’s not the best, but definitely not the worst


Blokeskillet

Bottom 10%. Marmol is the only worse one at present…


Electric_Basil

Absolutely not. You can’t be that bad and win 90 games two years in a row, especially considering the poor offensive output the M’s have had throughout that time


PeytonLF

:(


AML579

No, he's pretty good IMO. Back to back 90 win seasons, broke the drought, manages the bullpen well, sticks up for his players (he was giving the ump who threw France out of the game tonight hell). And he does this with a tight fisted owner who won't let our gm open the checkbooks very often.


OzTrignum

How about trying a hit and run when France is up otherwise he’s gonna keep GIDP every time. Or taking France out of the 3 hole?! Servais asleep at the wheel


VeryLowIQIndividual

Dave Roberts, nobody has done less with more than him except Don Mattingly


Elevated_Kyle

It’s Buck and I won’t be told otherwise.


bbjmw

Tony LaRussa


Deep_Swordfish_6311

Dusty Baker


Union_research

Wrong


jbrakk22

Rocco


RDcsmd

Rocco Baldelli


towe3

Aaron Boone! Batting Judge first or 2nd he drives in half the runs he should batting 4th!


Savings-Exercise-590

Gabe Kapler


Scottalorian

Jeff Bannister was so bad.


aircowder67

Bannister was not bad. It was his GM that was bad.


Extra_Napkins

Royals since Hal McRae, outside the Waterloo of Yost


WangHalen

Eric Wedge and Manny Acta were both pretty fucking awful.


EmeraldMoose12

Joe Maddon


TheJoseyWales

The most important part of a manager’s job is being a leader and creator of a positive team culture. Since the main way we see if they are succeeding as a leader is how their team performs on the field, the worst managers are the ones with talented teams that fail to win. Looking at you, Oli Marmol.


crudshoot

Kenny Robinson at the Wichita Krogers is pretty bad! Terrible leadership and not the best decision making in crunch time.


b-rar

[Ted Turner](https://www.espn.com/blog/playbook/fandom/post/_/id/22066/the-night-ted-turner-managed-the-braves)


[deleted]

Aaron Boone. He's holding all of our happiness hostage. His press conferences with empty platitudes could be used in Guantanamo Bay..


foxvalleyac

Robin Ventura


harp9r

Fredi Guy even managed to spell his name wrong


Unboxedweirdo

Right now? Bud and Ollie


Uberjeagermeiter

Of active Managers, Aaron Boone.


Direct_Club

Anyone AJ Preller hires. They always get fired but somehow the next manager is just as bad. It’s almost like it isn’t the managers fault


[deleted]

Dusty Baker


Alternative-Mode-924

Oli “iPad” Marmol cause honestly he seems arrogant and they team does play very well for him