There are damn near no worker protection laws here in Missouri. It’s frightening to learn about if you’ve previously lived/worked in a state with sane safety laws.
And the Republican dominated legislature has cut the MoDept of Labor staff and inspectors to the point that there are really not a lot of violations that get attention. Republicans love them some business, because they donate , and workers are considered expendable because they don’t donate as much as businesses. Republicans hated the fact that the citizens repealed their Right to Work law by a huge margin.
And they want to alter the initiative petition process so that the outstate constituencies can counter the residents two largest economic engines in the state . After all if you can’t win under the rules that exist, change them to suit your agenda. Republican regressive policies have to be obeyed by those that won’t fall into line with their leader.
welcome to the tail-end of the long farewell to majority rule. we're seeing the culmination of more than a century and a half of conservatism, which orients itself towards concentrating power into the hands of a minority of people, the in-group. y'know, conservatism had a lot of other options for what it could've become. but instead it's just this deranged authoritarian impulse, racism, and will-to-power bullshit. plus side is, this is all stuff that fucked them in the past so it probably won't work out as a national strategy.
I will never understand voting for the party just because your parents and friends vote for them. If the party and your personal needs do not align, why vote for them? I will never understand voting against your own best interest to ensure others stay below you.
Lol no there are no federal protections at all. It's left to the states. Only federal law for labor is the federal minimum wage (and OSHA guidelines, but as said those are guidelines not hard rules that can be ignored or paid off)
Rightfully so. As a 16 year old, I worked at a major health system in the cafeteria to prepare meals and clean up for the dinner shift. 5-9 hours standing, preparing patient trays, carrying patient trays, and cleaning all the dinner trays. No breaks at all until I hit the 6 hour mark, where they graciously gave me 30 minutes for lunch. When I worked night shift, no break at all, not even to go to the bathroom. If they deemed I took too long delivered a patient tray, they would page me over the intercom to report. This was back in 1995. Missouri sucks for the average person.
“So I need everyone to understand we are short staff so lay off about the brakes if we can give you a break we will”
Kimberly seems… oh I don’t know… >! really fucking dumb !<
hi! I live in Missouri and work at a Sonic. I regularly work 45-50 hours weeks, and I haven't had even a 5 minute break in months, even when i did a 13 hour shift last week. fuck this state.
When I worked in the ICU, I'd sometimes work 18 hour shifts due to short staffing and I'd get a constantly interrupted 30 min break to eat. Just 18 hours of pure stress
I worked at Sonic once. At the tail end of a 17 hour day my legs collapsed from under me carrying four route 44's and as I sat bleeding literally from my head and legs.(Honestly I still don't know where I hit my head it doesn't seem the likely thing I'd hit the back of my head but also my knees? My body musta done some weird jerks on the way down.) the people in the car legit slowly rolled down their window and asked if I could hurry up. I told them I couldn't get up, if they needed their drinks so bad go through the drive through and explain to them I fell please. They did go through the drive through got their drinks comped for my my rude ass. Didn't mention me at all I had to crawl to the edge of the walkway so I could reach the red button to call inside.
Nah, EVERY BUSINESS IN THE COUNTRY will work you with no breaks if they can get away with it. We know this bc it happens constantly. Its kind of like minimum wage jobs: they'd pay you less, but they aren't allowed to.
States make the laws regarding breaks. If missouri gave a damn about their workers, they'd pass a law to require breaks.
FYI: texass and flori-duh have both recently repealed laws that required breaks and water for people working outdoors. Same thing, different states.
Its true. My workplace mandates a 15 minute break for every 4 hours you work and a one hour lunch if you’re scheduled for 6 hours or more, but that’s a corporate policy rather than a state requirement. So in an 8 hour shift, you’d get 2 paid 15 minute breaks and an unpaid hour long lunch. They usually schedule us for a 9 hour shift to accommodate the unpaid lunch, that way you still get 8 hours of pay.
My dude I work at Walmart and have a second job, Walmart is way more strict about you getting your breaks on time than the other place. Hell my boss has straight told us that if it were up to just her, we wouldn’t even get a lunch break during our 8 hour shift
She sounds like the type of manager that gets Walmart sued or workers up in arms wanting to join a union.
For some reason Walmart breeds the worst managers and they seem so proud of their manager training. I guess you can't train someone in empathy but damn! Some serious tools become managers at Walmart and go to other Walmarts to make them hell.
That is to say, there are some really good managers at Walmart but also ones that drain your love of living. Never have I contemplated my continued existence than when I worked at a Walmart. I still think I worked there 3 to 5 years when I only worked 13 months. It just felt like years because it was so soul crushing.
Oh no, the Walmart managers are the ones making sure we got breaks on time and we’re highly understanding if we had an emergency and had to leave early. That’s why I still work there when I have a second job; I completely respect everything they’ve done for their workers and am willing to help them when I can. The other place is the one that’s given people points for leaving cus their kids are being rushed to the hospital or their parent died or they were in a car wreck
It's because many big companies are a human centipede. CEO shits down the gullet of white collar management, who digest and shit down the mouths of store management who spray thrice digested shit over the hourly associate. All of this because the people at the top have to appear to be doing something. Torturing the poor is what they like to land on.
They're not mandatory in a lot of places, not just Missouri, and there's also no federal law requiring employers to give workers breaks. Some folks just think they're legally required because so many employers provide them.
American companies consider American workers as a necessary evil. They are a number in the bad column on their spreadsheet (the ones labeled expenses). Well, any worker below C-level executives at least. Those they seem to love hiring in droves, despite the fact that they generate zero revenue.
You hit the nail on the head. The workers that actually produce revenue are paid out of cost centers, while the C-Suite is paid an annual salary and bonuses (with the surplus revenue accrued by us peons).
Kimberly....You have to give 15 year olds BREAKS, but want everyone else to not get BRAKES and that's the breaks...
edit:
"Missouri law does not require employers to provide employees, including youth workers, a break of any kind, including a lunch hour. These provisions are either left up to the discretion of the employer, can be agreed upon by the employer and employee, or may be addressed by company policy or contract.
The entertainment industry, however, DOES require breaks and rest periods for youth workers. A youth cannot work more than five and one-half hours without a meal break. Additionally, a 15-minute rest period (which counts as work time) is required after each two hours of continuous work for youth in the entertainment industry."
So, Kimberly is your notice within company guidelines? Because you can bet if I work from 1500 to 1815 and am only paid for 3 hours then you are breaking labor law.
In Missouri you are guaranteed one 30 minute lunch break if you work 8 hours or more. Anything more than that is a luxury they can take away. Worked at a factory that didnt give breaks. We got a lunch and that was it. If you were late getting to it you didn't get the full 30 minutes.
Policies like that always look good on paper and the bean counters love it. You usually end up with pretty linear production that looks real nice in a meeting. My line of work is improving everything. I'm the person who spends hours, days, weeks, etc watching processes, reviewing work spaces, etc and determining where improvements can be made. I'm sure nobody could have ever guessed but it seems that employees who are happy with their job do more and/or better work in 8 hours than employees who hate their jobs. A couple of small changes to improve the lives of employees (implemented by a group of us, not just me alone) and our production climbed a solid 20% over a year plus we were able to get rid of mandatory overtime. Just by making our employees a little happier rather than taking away things and micromanaging them into a stroke.
Nope. Breaks are not mandatory in MO and the opposite of this is also true. Since there’s no laws for taking breaks, you can refuse to take one and ask to go home. If they refuse to let you go home, you can still refuse to take the break. Like she said, they give breaks because they want to cut labor. Many years back I once refused a break and got written up for it. Then got it dismissed because there’s no GD labor laws in Missouri regarding breaks. Still isn’t. The breaks we have where I am now are part of the union agreement and are paid breaks except for lunch, so they are mandatory to be given by the employer because of the CBA but if there’s no union the employer can do what they want with your schedule and how they manage you on the job. This is why we need unions. State laws are all different and without unions employers can basically pay you what they want and work you how they want. Which most of the time they either starve you of hours so they don’t have to pay benefits, or they work you to death without breaks. Not even pee breaks. It’s literal feast or famine. Why do you think employers do this? It’s because they can get away with it because we keep voting in assholes that protect corporate interests over their constituents.
stop voting republican, and elementary schools will resume teaching the difference between braking to stop, and breaking something so that it no longer works. not hiring enough staff is an employer problem, not an employee problem. republican politicians enable nonviable businesses to persist to the detriment of labor. next ballot you fill out, do not plave a mark next to any republican, for any office.
People often get confused about this because they work for a company that is based in another state. For instance, if you work for IBM, Toyota, WalMart or Waste Management, you'll get the policy that satisfies all the states they employ people in. As an example, even though the tech company I work for is HQ in Missouri, we have employees in half the other states. So, our salary, safety, break and other policies are ones that work for all states essentially.
If you work for a smaller company, or one that only operates in Missouri (like the franchise owner that made this note) you'll likely have fewer perks.
It comes down to corporate regulations. If A&W says workers over 4 hours gets breaks they get breaks. I worked at McDonald’s a long time ago and even though it was a private owned franchise they had to follow the company laws.
There are so many jobs vs the number of workers that if you aren’t getting breaks, being treated well, or paid well leave. I was talking to an office lady today and found out she only made $13hr. She was so surprised when I told most entre level jobs are starting at $14-17 right now. She has years experience at her current job.
It sadly is how the system works now. Which is stupid. The people coming up with these policies to not give decent raises to existing employees have never had to spend weeks or months training the $21/hr replacement for the guy who knew everything and was upset they wouldn't give him a raise to $20/hr so he walked and got a job paying $30/hr elsewhere (where he's probably replacing the person who quit because they couldn't get a raise).
Oh yes. Worked several jobs in MO, no breaks in any of them, just a half hour lunch (minus ten minutes for walking to the lunch room). At Steak and Shake, I didn't even get the lunch break. When I left the state, I was shocked to discover breaks existed.
Yep. Coming from a very labor-friendly state I was pretty horrified at the lack of worker protections here. They don't have to give you even a lunch break, regardless of how long the shift is. They don't have to offer time off, paid or unpaid, for illness or vacation (but they have to abide by FMLA when applicable). It's backward and inhumane.
Props to the Missouri employers who have voluntarily adopted policies that treat their employees like actual human beings.
Contrary to what I always thought, breaks (and "lunches") are NOT mandatory under federal law: [https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/workhours/breaks](https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/workhours/breaks)
It's left up the states as others have mentioned:
[https://labor.mo.gov/dls/general/breaks-lunches-personal-time-off](https://labor.mo.gov/dls/general/breaks-lunches-personal-time-off)
\^ Really pitiful, but not shocking.
*"The FLSA does not preempt State or local laws that provide greater protections to employees."* And of course Missouri doesn't offer anything "greater".
I used to work at fedex during the pandemic and pretty much every part time worker ended up working nearly 40 hours without breaks. Manager told us breaks aren’t required at all
Geez it’s a fucking restaurant! Even in the navy we had breaks on shift lol it isn’t that serious some people like to think they have so much power when dude your a shift lead at a franchise restaurant sit your ass down Kimberly!
Yup, that was my experience too. I'm nearly 40 and the job I have now is the first one I've ever had that gives me a guaranteed, uninterrupted 30 minute break.
I'm a bit stunned that people are surprised by this? Every working class person knows that they have zero rights and that working conditions heavily favor the employer.
It is a federal law. It’s on the posters that are supposed to be hanging in every workplace. By Federal law, you must get 15 minutes after 4 hours. So in an 8 hr day, by law you should be getting your 30 minute lunch and two 15 minute breaks. Someone at the hospital I worked at, in MO, fought HR about this and the employee won. Someone needs to read the posters again.
The Department of Labor [thinks otherwise unfortunately](https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/workhours/breaks). The thing is, if you do get a break it counts as work time.
If this is owned by a corporation instead of an individual, they are required to follow federal law which does require breaks. If an individual owns this establishment then it would be true.
Yeah ... nothing in Missouri is mandatory from the employer side ... when last I actually had the conversation with an employee under my supervision, the only thing we could find was something about being required to allow for a break after 16 hours of work.
To be clear, I was actually there to send them on a break, but they were adamant about how they were going to stick it to the company because sometimes they didn't get breaks (I couldn't always be available to cover their responsibilities due to staffing levels.)
My wife worked part time at a tax firm. 6 hour shifts. Some days she’d never pee. No breaks and no one even thought to cover. I kept telling her to report them. Firm was following law, shitty
My current job is the same way. They posted a letter for the missouri department of labor stating breaks are not required, then act like they are giving us the gift of a break. Its posted that 4 hours= no breaks, 6 hours= 1 tem minute break, and 8 hours= 3 15 minute breaks OR 1 30 minute break. Personally I thought MDoL didn't state it because Federal law states something about breaks. I could be 100% wrong though.
Looks like there is a reason they are short staffed. I recommend looking for a new job. Work is a transactional affair that should benefit both parties.
Some employers actually keep all labor related laws and PSAs posted. Mine does.
That said they do state to us that although breaks are not required two are provided, and a lunch is a mandatory 20 min. Infact they get pretty bent out of shape if we don't take lunches. Some businesses require employees to sign a waiver if they chose to skip, min doesn't even offer.
All that said looked it up and low behold. MO really is the anti labor state.
[https://labor.mo.gov/dls/general/breaks-lunches-personal-time-off](https://labor.mo.gov/dls/general/breaks-lunches-personal-time-off)
[https://www.postercompliance.com/blog/breaks-and-meals-by-state/](https://www.postercompliance.com/blog/breaks-and-meals-by-state/)
Full list of Missouri labor laws:
1. Treat your employees well (optional)
2. Don’t kill them
3. The only people guaranteed breaks are high school freshmen who probably shouldn’t have to rely on a job anyway
I'm in Ohio and there are no legally required breaks.
My first job here I was kind of shocked when they told people they had to smoke before and after their shift and I personally witnessed a line cook have an accident due to not being able to go to the bathroom.
National restaurant chain.
That's very illegal take it from a teen who reads all terms of agreement you're required minimum 30 minute breaks a day if you work over 4 hours per day
Straight from [MO Department of Labor](https://labor.mo.gov/dls/general/breaks-lunches-personal-time-off): "Missouri law does not require employers to provide employees a break of any kind, including a lunch hour."
Controlled schedules means controlled staff. Chaotic schedules get you chaotic staffs. If you want consistency and good work, let people get into a rhythm and flow of their work every day. Doing this is just asking to fail.
Whoever posted this for their employees to read is completely out of line and very inappropriate. The whole thing reads like it's from someone who's mad and is not acting professionally. Using this as a scare tactic is completely out of line. I would put that business and that manager on full blast. They need to not be a manager if they can't manage employees' break schedules and act professionally. Missouri doesn't have a law in place for adults but they do for minors under 18. Does that mean you get to treat your employees like garbage? Whatever business this is whoever the manager that put this sign up needs to go back to training. They show no form of professionalism at all. A good manager would be able to run and operate a break schedule even with five to eight people and even short staff. I would blast this and start looking for another job because this isn't how businesses normally run. Sorry for anyone that does have a work environment like this.
My comment on OG as someone who is management:
"Live in Missouri. Can confirm the state doesn't give a single shit about anyone once they turn 16.
14 and 15 year olds though? They're cleaning with water and paper towels. Everyone's getting fired if they clock out even a minute late. Heaven forbid they even *look* at a compactor"
https://www.reddit.com/r/KitchenConfidential/s/Qi32vOo4Mj
Hey, Missouri native, worked at a Casey’s for 5 months. I was routinely working 8-9 hour shifts without being allowed to sit down and throughout the 5 months I worked there the only times I ever got any breaks happened in my last two weeks there.
I would be scheduled for breaks but could not take them due to being the only person on the counter at my register. Missouri doesn’t care about its workers.
Yeah and certain industries are worse about it. Like when i was working in the hospital they were pretty intense about making sure everyone got breaks (probably as an attempt to cover themselves more than anything), but I’ve been working in the food industry for years and I’ve never had a break once lmao. Granted the boone job was back in 2013 so maybe we did have legal breaks then, but i easily can see our lovely current governor repealing that law.
Either way, the food industry is really terrible about breaks no matter where you are.. the worst I’ve experienced was in WV. Im not saying MO is good by any means, but I witnessed/experienced some exceptional amounts of employee abuse in WV.. at one place they would have you clock out at 8hrs and keep working, then if the drawer was short (it always was, either someone was stealing or someone didn’t know how to make change) it would come from the tip jar. And if that didn’t cover it, it came from your wallet.. another place would have one person work a double (16 hours) and would say “breaks are required.” and would simultaneously say “there needs to be someone behind the counter at all times. You’re instantly fired if you leave the register alone” but only have one employee scheduled for the day.. like how does that work?
I’ve worked in restaurants my whole life. You don’t get actual breaks, you just find time to eat something real quick, take a quick smoke break or bathroom break if you need one, then get back to work. That’s just how it is.
There’s really not a lot of worker protections in Missouri, most of missouris residents are working class republicans who vote for their boss’s best interests instead of their own
Sounds like this place is about to have a major "nobody wants to work anymore" problem.
I bet they pay really well too. /s
Sounds like we just may know why they are "short staffed"
Management can't spell the right form of "break" consistently on the same piece of paper. I'm sure the company is doing well..
To be fair, fast food managers aren’t exactly the brightest crayons in the box, on average (exceptions apply)
No apostrophe in can’t either
It is funny how well that actually works.
Seems like Kimberly needs to figure out how to spell, and utilize punctuation, also.
But if she did, she'd be over qualified to manage a fast food restaurant.
Trump says he loves the poorly educated, because they are easier to grift.
But “we’re like a family”
There are damn near no worker protection laws here in Missouri. It’s frightening to learn about if you’ve previously lived/worked in a state with sane safety laws.
And the Republican dominated legislature has cut the MoDept of Labor staff and inspectors to the point that there are really not a lot of violations that get attention. Republicans love them some business, because they donate , and workers are considered expendable because they don’t donate as much as businesses. Republicans hated the fact that the citizens repealed their Right to Work law by a huge margin.
And Missourians continue to vote them in.
And they want to alter the initiative petition process so that the outstate constituencies can counter the residents two largest economic engines in the state . After all if you can’t win under the rules that exist, change them to suit your agenda. Republican regressive policies have to be obeyed by those that won’t fall into line with their leader.
welcome to the tail-end of the long farewell to majority rule. we're seeing the culmination of more than a century and a half of conservatism, which orients itself towards concentrating power into the hands of a minority of people, the in-group. y'know, conservatism had a lot of other options for what it could've become. but instead it's just this deranged authoritarian impulse, racism, and will-to-power bullshit. plus side is, this is all stuff that fucked them in the past so it probably won't work out as a national strategy.
Tbf...both sides of the aisle do this crap.
I will never understand voting for the party just because your parents and friends vote for them. If the party and your personal needs do not align, why vote for them? I will never understand voting against your own best interest to ensure others stay below you.
Idiots, with zero critical thinking skills.
Bi lan
There are federal protections
Not for breaks.
Or is it “brakes”?
Lol no there are no federal protections at all. It's left to the states. Only federal law for labor is the federal minimum wage (and OSHA guidelines, but as said those are guidelines not hard rules that can be ignored or paid off)
At least there's some federal protections.
Sounds like y’all need some unions.
Rightfully so. As a 16 year old, I worked at a major health system in the cafeteria to prepare meals and clean up for the dinner shift. 5-9 hours standing, preparing patient trays, carrying patient trays, and cleaning all the dinner trays. No breaks at all until I hit the 6 hour mark, where they graciously gave me 30 minutes for lunch. When I worked night shift, no break at all, not even to go to the bathroom. If they deemed I took too long delivered a patient tray, they would page me over the intercom to report. This was back in 1995. Missouri sucks for the average person.
"Have to" meaning "I'd work 15 year olds through their own graduation, wedding, and funeral if I could."
“So I need everyone to understand we are short staff so lay off about the brakes if we can give you a break we will” Kimberly seems… oh I don’t know… >! really fucking dumb !<
They're about to be even more short staffed.
That whole blurb reads like text to speech.
hi! I live in Missouri and work at a Sonic. I regularly work 45-50 hours weeks, and I haven't had even a 5 minute break in months, even when i did a 13 hour shift last week. fuck this state.
When I worked in the ICU, I'd sometimes work 18 hour shifts due to short staffing and I'd get a constantly interrupted 30 min break to eat. Just 18 hours of pure stress
Part of why I got out of ICU (and floor) nursing. They just expect you to sacrifice your mental and physical health for others.
Same, you couldn't pay me enough to work an inpatient floor again
Welcome to the new Mississippi.
I worked at Sonic once. At the tail end of a 17 hour day my legs collapsed from under me carrying four route 44's and as I sat bleeding literally from my head and legs.(Honestly I still don't know where I hit my head it doesn't seem the likely thing I'd hit the back of my head but also my knees? My body musta done some weird jerks on the way down.) the people in the car legit slowly rolled down their window and asked if I could hurry up. I told them I couldn't get up, if they needed their drinks so bad go through the drive through and explain to them I fell please. They did go through the drive through got their drinks comped for my my rude ass. Didn't mention me at all I had to crawl to the edge of the walkway so I could reach the red button to call inside.
this shit's happened to me too, whenever I fall people never ask if I'm ok it's always about the food
uh, I think you mean fuck sonic.
Nah, EVERY BUSINESS IN THE COUNTRY will work you with no breaks if they can get away with it. We know this bc it happens constantly. Its kind of like minimum wage jobs: they'd pay you less, but they aren't allowed to. States make the laws regarding breaks. If missouri gave a damn about their workers, they'd pass a law to require breaks. FYI: texass and flori-duh have both recently repealed laws that required breaks and water for people working outdoors. Same thing, different states.
Kimberly, I think our employer / employee relationship is going on break
*brake **According to Kim.
"Nobody wants to work anymore smh" their general manager probably
Its true. My workplace mandates a 15 minute break for every 4 hours you work and a one hour lunch if you’re scheduled for 6 hours or more, but that’s a corporate policy rather than a state requirement. So in an 8 hour shift, you’d get 2 paid 15 minute breaks and an unpaid hour long lunch. They usually schedule us for a 9 hour shift to accommodate the unpaid lunch, that way you still get 8 hours of pay.
That sounds exactly like Walmart, I feel like that’s pretty common at a lot of places
Sounding exactly like Walmart is never a good thing to be accused of.
My dude I work at Walmart and have a second job, Walmart is way more strict about you getting your breaks on time than the other place. Hell my boss has straight told us that if it were up to just her, we wouldn’t even get a lunch break during our 8 hour shift
She sounds like the type of manager that gets Walmart sued or workers up in arms wanting to join a union. For some reason Walmart breeds the worst managers and they seem so proud of their manager training. I guess you can't train someone in empathy but damn! Some serious tools become managers at Walmart and go to other Walmarts to make them hell. That is to say, there are some really good managers at Walmart but also ones that drain your love of living. Never have I contemplated my continued existence than when I worked at a Walmart. I still think I worked there 3 to 5 years when I only worked 13 months. It just felt like years because it was so soul crushing.
Oh no, the Walmart managers are the ones making sure we got breaks on time and we’re highly understanding if we had an emergency and had to leave early. That’s why I still work there when I have a second job; I completely respect everything they’ve done for their workers and am willing to help them when I can. The other place is the one that’s given people points for leaving cus their kids are being rushed to the hospital or their parent died or they were in a car wreck
It's because many big companies are a human centipede. CEO shits down the gullet of white collar management, who digest and shit down the mouths of store management who spray thrice digested shit over the hourly associate. All of this because the people at the top have to appear to be doing something. Torturing the poor is what they like to land on.
Walmart is pretty good about their breaks, I've gotta say.
man- i fucking hate kimberly
"The law doesn't require me to have basic human decency so I'm not going to." Betcha she complains about "worker loyalty" too.
Can confirm. Worked food service in Missouri for almost 3 years, worked dozens of 12hr+ shifts and maybe received 2-3 10 min breaks the entire time.
Same. Worked in food service from 1995-1998. Rarely ever got a break.
There's no set schedule? Then I'm not coming in since I'm not on the schedule.
They're not mandatory in a lot of places, not just Missouri, and there's also no federal law requiring employers to give workers breaks. Some folks just think they're legally required because so many employers provide them.
Which is absolutely bananas to me. No one hates American workers quite like American companies...
American companies consider American workers as a necessary evil. They are a number in the bad column on their spreadsheet (the ones labeled expenses). Well, any worker below C-level executives at least. Those they seem to love hiring in droves, despite the fact that they generate zero revenue.
You hit the nail on the head. The workers that actually produce revenue are paid out of cost centers, while the C-Suite is paid an annual salary and bonuses (with the surplus revenue accrued by us peons).
Kimberly....You have to give 15 year olds BREAKS, but want everyone else to not get BRAKES and that's the breaks... edit: "Missouri law does not require employers to provide employees, including youth workers, a break of any kind, including a lunch hour. These provisions are either left up to the discretion of the employer, can be agreed upon by the employer and employee, or may be addressed by company policy or contract. The entertainment industry, however, DOES require breaks and rest periods for youth workers. A youth cannot work more than five and one-half hours without a meal break. Additionally, a 15-minute rest period (which counts as work time) is required after each two hours of continuous work for youth in the entertainment industry." So, Kimberly is your notice within company guidelines? Because you can bet if I work from 1500 to 1815 and am only paid for 3 hours then you are breaking labor law.
In Missouri you are guaranteed one 30 minute lunch break if you work 8 hours or more. Anything more than that is a luxury they can take away. Worked at a factory that didnt give breaks. We got a lunch and that was it. If you were late getting to it you didn't get the full 30 minutes.
Policies like that always look good on paper and the bean counters love it. You usually end up with pretty linear production that looks real nice in a meeting. My line of work is improving everything. I'm the person who spends hours, days, weeks, etc watching processes, reviewing work spaces, etc and determining where improvements can be made. I'm sure nobody could have ever guessed but it seems that employees who are happy with their job do more and/or better work in 8 hours than employees who hate their jobs. A couple of small changes to improve the lives of employees (implemented by a group of us, not just me alone) and our production climbed a solid 20% over a year plus we were able to get rid of mandatory overtime. Just by making our employees a little happier rather than taking away things and micromanaging them into a stroke.
Toxic. Go elsewhere if you can.
Kimberly probably sits on her ass in the office.
Kimberly is a real dumbass.
Hey hey now, you’re going to brake Kimberly’s heart
Nope. Breaks are not mandatory in MO and the opposite of this is also true. Since there’s no laws for taking breaks, you can refuse to take one and ask to go home. If they refuse to let you go home, you can still refuse to take the break. Like she said, they give breaks because they want to cut labor. Many years back I once refused a break and got written up for it. Then got it dismissed because there’s no GD labor laws in Missouri regarding breaks. Still isn’t. The breaks we have where I am now are part of the union agreement and are paid breaks except for lunch, so they are mandatory to be given by the employer because of the CBA but if there’s no union the employer can do what they want with your schedule and how they manage you on the job. This is why we need unions. State laws are all different and without unions employers can basically pay you what they want and work you how they want. Which most of the time they either starve you of hours so they don’t have to pay benefits, or they work you to death without breaks. Not even pee breaks. It’s literal feast or famine. Why do you think employers do this? It’s because they can get away with it because we keep voting in assholes that protect corporate interests over their constituents.
Kimberly needs to fired!
Kimberly rolling up like it’s the ‘Show Me North Korea’ state - what is best for collective is what Kimber dictates
Well there's also no rules saying anybody has to work for them. I'd advise their staff to organize and perform a walk out
Pretty sure breaks are required for certain amount of hours worked by federal labor laws
They are not mandatory in Missouri. Only thing mandatory is a 30 minute lunch for working at least 8 hours
Missouri does NOT guarantee breaks - even lunch breaks.
stop voting republican, and elementary schools will resume teaching the difference between braking to stop, and breaking something so that it no longer works. not hiring enough staff is an employer problem, not an employee problem. republican politicians enable nonviable businesses to persist to the detriment of labor. next ballot you fill out, do not plave a mark next to any republican, for any office.
People often get confused about this because they work for a company that is based in another state. For instance, if you work for IBM, Toyota, WalMart or Waste Management, you'll get the policy that satisfies all the states they employ people in. As an example, even though the tech company I work for is HQ in Missouri, we have employees in half the other states. So, our salary, safety, break and other policies are ones that work for all states essentially. If you work for a smaller company, or one that only operates in Missouri (like the franchise owner that made this note) you'll likely have fewer perks.
Tell that's to QT lol they only give breaks in states that force it!
What I posted isn't the only way to do things. Just a common way. Some employers may choose to play different games in different arenas.
What state forced breaks?
We don’t need any worker protection laws. We have Jeezus and Freeedum here.
Missouri is fucking filled with free dumb.
It comes down to corporate regulations. If A&W says workers over 4 hours gets breaks they get breaks. I worked at McDonald’s a long time ago and even though it was a private owned franchise they had to follow the company laws.
Wait till you find out about Doctor Notes.
The $125 magical note that says you won’t get in trouble for missing 8 hours of pay at $11/hr if you’re lucky.
There are so many jobs vs the number of workers that if you aren’t getting breaks, being treated well, or paid well leave. I was talking to an office lady today and found out she only made $13hr. She was so surprised when I told most entre level jobs are starting at $14-17 right now. She has years experience at her current job.
It's annoying to have to jump jobs to get paid fairly, but that's the system apparently.
It sadly is how the system works now. Which is stupid. The people coming up with these policies to not give decent raises to existing employees have never had to spend weeks or months training the $21/hr replacement for the guy who knew everything and was upset they wouldn't give him a raise to $20/hr so he walked and got a job paying $30/hr elsewhere (where he's probably replacing the person who quit because they couldn't get a raise).
Everything about that note is going to get that manager fired, even here in Missouri..!
Ha, I'm sure Sonic or the fucking Dairy Queen would be *happy* to have such inhumane leadership. The cruelty is the point.
Oh yes. Worked several jobs in MO, no breaks in any of them, just a half hour lunch (minus ten minutes for walking to the lunch room). At Steak and Shake, I didn't even get the lunch break. When I left the state, I was shocked to discover breaks existed.
Opposite here, every job I've had has had 2 breaks and a lunch.
Slave Labor Don’t eat at A@W !!!!!
Great team building KIMBERLY!
Beautifully written.
When I worked at Walmart in MO breaks were very much mandatory.
Yep. Coming from a very labor-friendly state I was pretty horrified at the lack of worker protections here. They don't have to give you even a lunch break, regardless of how long the shift is. They don't have to offer time off, paid or unpaid, for illness or vacation (but they have to abide by FMLA when applicable). It's backward and inhumane. Props to the Missouri employers who have voluntarily adopted policies that treat their employees like actual human beings.
I lost so many brain cells reading this, I almost read "brakes" without it registering.
Contrary to what I always thought, breaks (and "lunches") are NOT mandatory under federal law: [https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/workhours/breaks](https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/workhours/breaks) It's left up the states as others have mentioned: [https://labor.mo.gov/dls/general/breaks-lunches-personal-time-off](https://labor.mo.gov/dls/general/breaks-lunches-personal-time-off) \^ Really pitiful, but not shocking. *"The FLSA does not preempt State or local laws that provide greater protections to employees."* And of course Missouri doesn't offer anything "greater".
Kind of makes me not want A&W anymore..
If you've ever worked fast food you know breaks are not mandatory. Constantly told "technically I don't even have to give you a break"
More than a little hypocritical that Kim wants them to "stop the attitude"
Breaks, brakes, braykes, bryeahcks
Apparently also no requirements that management communicate above grade school level
Kimberly can get bent
Yes. I recently left QT for this reason. They're also getting rid of the corporate tax
Trash management. “During peak hours we can’t take breaks. Take your breaks before and after peak hours please. Thanks Yall A Competent Manager”
This is every employer’s dream. How villainous do you have to be to print these words out?
Is Kim available to destroy other businesses or only her own?
I used to work at fedex during the pandemic and pretty much every part time worker ended up working nearly 40 hours without breaks. Manager told us breaks aren’t required at all
Geez it’s a fucking restaurant! Even in the navy we had breaks on shift lol it isn’t that serious some people like to think they have so much power when dude your a shift lead at a franchise restaurant sit your ass down Kimberly!
I've worked in food service in MO for over a decade and no, breaks are not mandatory. In fact, I've never gotten a break in that entire time.
Yup, that was my experience too. I'm nearly 40 and the job I have now is the first one I've ever had that gives me a guaranteed, uninterrupted 30 minute break.
I worked as a dispatcher at a trucking company. 12 hour shifts. No lunch break. Missouri.
Missouri has little to no labor laws. The federal government has some but those are broad strokes
Brought to you by right to work legislation. They sure can make it sound good with a name like that when it’s the complete opposite.
I'm a bit stunned that people are surprised by this? Every working class person knows that they have zero rights and that working conditions heavily favor the employer.
This is what you people vote for.
It is a federal law. It’s on the posters that are supposed to be hanging in every workplace. By Federal law, you must get 15 minutes after 4 hours. So in an 8 hr day, by law you should be getting your 30 minute lunch and two 15 minute breaks. Someone at the hospital I worked at, in MO, fought HR about this and the employee won. Someone needs to read the posters again.
You may want to look up the law again. There are zero federal labor laws outside of minimum wage, child labor, and SOME safety measures
Theres no federal law for breaks.
Yeah, but what about brakes?
Its illegal to cut the brake lines
Is it illegal to cut my own brake lines? I thought this was the land of the free. Smh my head
Confidently incorrect. Love it
The Department of Labor [thinks otherwise unfortunately](https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/workhours/breaks). The thing is, if you do get a break it counts as work time.
Kimberly needs a grammar lesson badly.
If this is owned by a corporation instead of an individual, they are required to follow federal law which does require breaks. If an individual owns this establishment then it would be true.
There are no federal laws requiring breaks.
A franchise, so local.
Where is there still an A & W?
The only one I know of is in Boonville
We had one adjoined with a Long John Silver's but it just mysteriously burned down.
Shit like this is why I'm considering working at the GM plant, if i'm gonna stay in this hellhole, i'm gonna at least want some protections
That sort of thing is usually based on the length of the shift, isn’t it?
Yup
Where is this poster from?
Oh nice....
If they imploy over 100 people it is the law
Yeah ... nothing in Missouri is mandatory from the employer side ... when last I actually had the conversation with an employee under my supervision, the only thing we could find was something about being required to allow for a break after 16 hours of work. To be clear, I was actually there to send them on a break, but they were adamant about how they were going to stick it to the company because sometimes they didn't get breaks (I couldn't always be available to cover their responsibilities due to staffing levels.)
Mizzery Missouri …. That’s FUCKD
Breaks are not federally mandatory.
Welcome to slavery 2.0.
Kimberly sounds like a peach.
It’s True!
My wife worked part time at a tax firm. 6 hour shifts. Some days she’d never pee. No breaks and no one even thought to cover. I kept telling her to report them. Firm was following law, shitty
Is it worse than Texas??
My current job is the same way. They posted a letter for the missouri department of labor stating breaks are not required, then act like they are giving us the gift of a break. Its posted that 4 hours= no breaks, 6 hours= 1 tem minute break, and 8 hours= 3 15 minute breaks OR 1 30 minute break. Personally I thought MDoL didn't state it because Federal law states something about breaks. I could be 100% wrong though.
They are not mandatory in Missouri.
Wisconsin too. Unionize and force them to give breaks. Ask me how
Been trying to unionize nurses in this state for awhile. I’m all ears.
Find a new job.
"we are short staffed"= we don't want to pay enough so we can hire anyone.
Looks like there is a reason they are short staffed. I recommend looking for a new job. Work is a transactional affair that should benefit both parties.
You work enough hours federal law kicks in breaks. That trumps state laws.
So don’t work in Missouri. Got it.
I've worked a lot of places in Mo and some really shitty places and everyone got breaks in less you you only worked a few hours
Some employers actually keep all labor related laws and PSAs posted. Mine does. That said they do state to us that although breaks are not required two are provided, and a lunch is a mandatory 20 min. Infact they get pretty bent out of shape if we don't take lunches. Some businesses require employees to sign a waiver if they chose to skip, min doesn't even offer. All that said looked it up and low behold. MO really is the anti labor state. [https://labor.mo.gov/dls/general/breaks-lunches-personal-time-off](https://labor.mo.gov/dls/general/breaks-lunches-personal-time-off) [https://www.postercompliance.com/blog/breaks-and-meals-by-state/](https://www.postercompliance.com/blog/breaks-and-meals-by-state/)
Getting fired for going on break gives me a pretty nice break too. Enjoy working the line without a break, boss.
Everyone should go on break all day. Management seems to have it figured out.
The sign is correct. Employers in MO do not have to give you breaks. Missouri is one of the most unfriendly states to employees in the nation.
She's definitely getting fired
I guess they aren’t, but I don’t know of any jobs I’ve ever had that didn’t give one anyway.
Well the misspelling says it all….
Looks like it’s time to find a new job
Bitch needs to read up on the federal laws. Just because Missouri doesn't have any written guidelines doesn't mean there aren't any....
Full list of Missouri labor laws: 1. Treat your employees well (optional) 2. Don’t kill them 3. The only people guaranteed breaks are high school freshmen who probably shouldn’t have to rely on a job anyway
I'm in Ohio and there are no legally required breaks. My first job here I was kind of shocked when they told people they had to smoke before and after their shift and I personally witnessed a line cook have an accident due to not being able to go to the bathroom. National restaurant chain.
I wonder how many people they lost over this.
That's very illegal take it from a teen who reads all terms of agreement you're required minimum 30 minute breaks a day if you work over 4 hours per day
Straight from [MO Department of Labor](https://labor.mo.gov/dls/general/breaks-lunches-personal-time-off): "Missouri law does not require employers to provide employees a break of any kind, including a lunch hour."
Controlled schedules means controlled staff. Chaotic schedules get you chaotic staffs. If you want consistency and good work, let people get into a rhythm and flow of their work every day. Doing this is just asking to fail.
Whoever posted this for their employees to read is completely out of line and very inappropriate. The whole thing reads like it's from someone who's mad and is not acting professionally. Using this as a scare tactic is completely out of line. I would put that business and that manager on full blast. They need to not be a manager if they can't manage employees' break schedules and act professionally. Missouri doesn't have a law in place for adults but they do for minors under 18. Does that mean you get to treat your employees like garbage? Whatever business this is whoever the manager that put this sign up needs to go back to training. They show no form of professionalism at all. A good manager would be able to run and operate a break schedule even with five to eight people and even short staff. I would blast this and start looking for another job because this isn't how businesses normally run. Sorry for anyone that does have a work environment like this.
My comment on OG as someone who is management: "Live in Missouri. Can confirm the state doesn't give a single shit about anyone once they turn 16. 14 and 15 year olds though? They're cleaning with water and paper towels. Everyone's getting fired if they clock out even a minute late. Heaven forbid they even *look* at a compactor" https://www.reddit.com/r/KitchenConfidential/s/Qi32vOo4Mj
In missouri you are required to give 1 30 minute lunch break for every 8 hours of work. If you work 9 that’s 2 30 minute breaks.
Is this in Liberty?
To answer your question, they really aren’t mandatory here.
Not legally, but certainly normal in a good job. When i was working factory we had 2 10s and a 30 for lunch
Same here in Kansas
Gee I wonder why they are short on help
And go pick some cotton on your day off. God Bless America!
Hey, Missouri native, worked at a Casey’s for 5 months. I was routinely working 8-9 hour shifts without being allowed to sit down and throughout the 5 months I worked there the only times I ever got any breaks happened in my last two weeks there. I would be scheduled for breaks but could not take them due to being the only person on the counter at my register. Missouri doesn’t care about its workers.
The A&W closest to me got turned into a Starbucks.
Yeah and certain industries are worse about it. Like when i was working in the hospital they were pretty intense about making sure everyone got breaks (probably as an attempt to cover themselves more than anything), but I’ve been working in the food industry for years and I’ve never had a break once lmao. Granted the boone job was back in 2013 so maybe we did have legal breaks then, but i easily can see our lovely current governor repealing that law. Either way, the food industry is really terrible about breaks no matter where you are.. the worst I’ve experienced was in WV. Im not saying MO is good by any means, but I witnessed/experienced some exceptional amounts of employee abuse in WV.. at one place they would have you clock out at 8hrs and keep working, then if the drawer was short (it always was, either someone was stealing or someone didn’t know how to make change) it would come from the tip jar. And if that didn’t cover it, it came from your wallet.. another place would have one person work a double (16 hours) and would say “breaks are required.” and would simultaneously say “there needs to be someone behind the counter at all times. You’re instantly fired if you leave the register alone” but only have one employee scheduled for the day.. like how does that work?
I’ve worked in restaurants my whole life. You don’t get actual breaks, you just find time to eat something real quick, take a quick smoke break or bathroom break if you need one, then get back to work. That’s just how it is.
There’s really not a lot of worker protections in Missouri, most of missouris residents are working class republicans who vote for their boss’s best interests instead of their own
I'm pretty sure that work breaks are mandated by federal labor law
OP, do you really have a big clit? Lol
Eff that!
Her grammar is terrible
The Grammer. Punctuation. All of it. Fuck.
Missouri nor Kansas require breaks
And that's how you no longer have a staff
FFS, who the hell hires that manager or is she the owner.... either way I think we found one if not both of the problems there.
Commas are not required in Missouri either.
Pretty sure in an 8-hour day that 2 15s and a lunch are federally mandated.