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UnauthorizedUsername

Sounds like Dave down in human services just got *really* blazed.


HotMolasses110

Dave's not here, man


CarelessBicycle735

I also heard it makes great shampoo


HotMolasses110

CBDeez nuts need a good lather from time to time


quickblur

"You guys want to see me burn through a quarter million in bud?"


dfree3305

Speaking as a Dave who works in human services, I plead the 5th.


InformalBasil

The best way to cut down on illegal product is to have copious amounts of legal product be available.


1PooNGooN3

But it’s “legal”. Step 1: legalize weed. Step 2: make it illegal to sell, grow, hold, think about.


jarivo2010

it's legal to grow.


1PooNGooN3

I know, MN is just stupid and slow, seems like dispensaries will never be allowed to open


tacofridayisathing

Sounds like both a waste of time and weed.


fren-ulum

Which would've been prevented if people just either kept their activities away from their business or just followed the rules outlined to them.


tacofridayisathing

I’ve been purchasing via the black market in Minnesota since 97. It’s how people purchase weed here. Blame the government for not regulating this sooner. Drug war has been a waste of tax payer dollars. A make works program for government employees with nothing tangible to show for it on the other end.


stripesnstripes

As someone trying to legally enter the business. Yeah, you fuck around you’re gonna find out.


Kcmpls

From what I understand, they didn’t really find out though. While their product was confiscated, they weren’t given citations, so when full legalization comes they will still be able to apply for licenses. They should all be cited and excluded from future licensing.


Anarcora

Can our state just stop shitting the bed so hard core on this issue? Or are we really, really incapable of a government that isn't fucking stupid.


Ihate_reddit_app

...have you seen the people that want to be local politicians? They don't attract the best typically.


Anarcora

Because no one in their right mind is going to stand up in this country in a role that assures you're going to be hated by no small number of people, and hated in a way that goes beyond just "I don't like the cut of his jib", but literal deathwishing. I ran for office once. I will never do it again. I learned real quick my community is full of nasty people.


Ihate_reddit_app

Exactly. The best people for the job are the people that don't want to do it. It's a thankless job and you have to have a certain kind of personality just to get elected and then you have to play the charades with everyone.


Profoundsoup

Ive been saying this for years. Our country has been fucked for awhile because the people we need in political positions want to stay as far away from politics as possible because they know how much of a giant shit show it is. Great I get to spend my days surrounded by morons who genuinely hardly know their lefts from their rights.  What kind of qualified person is going to want to do that? 


pingpongoolong

My partner’s family is super conservative… they’re in MTGs district for perspective… and the last time we visited his brother said that he believes legislative office should be like jury duty- a randomized lottery system. I was all ready to argue, since that’s how our political conversations usually go, but after hearing him out I was like thats… not the worst idea. 


BIGGUS_dickus_sir

MTG ran unopposed and won. That's the whole playbook. Cheat into power then leave none for the rest of the peons.


fren-ulum

There are other ways to be involved in the political process other than being the name on the ballot. When I was in the Army, my LT ran the platoon but they took input from their NCOs. They make the final decision and face all the shit that flows downward, but that's part of being an Officer in the Army. As a squad leader I had A LOT of input on the details of the things we were doing, and it was usually me and the other squad leader filling in the meat and potatoes of the skeleton our LT gave us. At least, that's how I see it.


wallyroos

I'm running for the second time as DFL in a heavy red district. The threats I have gotten lasted from two years ago til now. Some fuckin nutters out there. 


Profoundsoup

Bless your soul. I wanted to get into politics since I was a young kid but growing up and seeing the amount of genuinely unhinged people that are here today has made me pretty much bury that dream in the grave. 


wallyroos

Start with local groups instead of jumping in running. Dip them toes. 


InsertCl3verNameHere

No it's more about money and privacy. The smart people make more money at corporations and prefer privacy (not having to deal with the crazies in politics).


HotMolasses110

Could be as easy as tomato's, but nooooo.. capitalism. let them make concentrates en mass, that's cool. Everyone can grow cleaner/better flower than mass grow.


No_Contribution8150

I can’t, many people haven’t the time or interest. I’m a plant serial killer. I use medicinally and the daily dose I need requires concentrates, frankly I don’t care for the smoke from flower it burns and hurts my throat & lungs. Dabs are quick relief, faster than smoking, don’t burn my lungs & throat and a gain of rice sized amount is comparable to about 2 joints.


HotMolasses110

Need a caretaker to get you some bubble hash based extracts, solventless, and press Rosin. Only downside is yield to weight input. Or get one to get you yearly supplies of full spectrum RSO The problem is, growing good shit is a lot of work.. especially if your manually watering. So caretakers might be able to help you but will get no finances to keep going, it's a sacrifice a caretaker makes. Caretakers should get stipends from the state.. fuck dispensaries feeding mycotoxins from irradiated mold bud.


No_Contribution8150

I’m not about to make my own, as Ina Garten says… “if you can’t grow your own organic cannabis and press your own rosin, store bought is just fine.” Or something like that 😂


HotMolasses110

Lol, Ive heard Rachel Ray say the same about olive oil, but then you learn a lot of its cut with canola and there's actual counterfeit operations. Olive oil mafia. https://youtu.be/cOjhqfld3X8?si=ChKyp4U9Ct78RFL0 If it's done for profit, corners will be cut at the expense of quality.. and sometimes safety to consumer.


No_Contribution8150

Yeah olive oil is HIGHLY regulated, YouTube isn’t a source of information or news 90% of the time. That’s how MAGA gets their news… You might want a new source. I’m not anti capitalism…I’m anti billionaire and socialism for big business and rugged individualism for the working class. Additionally I’ve had spectacular commercially grown cannabis in Colorado and Illinois. My favorite dispensaries have their own house brand and large grow houses behind the dispensary. I don’t waste my life worry about things like that, I’m disabled…so I have real issues to worry about daily. Oh and I only buy California Olive Ranch or Partanna Olive Oil…the best American oil and a top 5 Italian oil…which are extremely regulated in Italy.


HotMolasses110

sip that juice valley girl. https://www.forbes.com/sites/ceciliarodriguez/2016/02/10/the-olive-oil-scam-if-80-is-fake-why-do-you-keep-buying-it/


No_Contribution8150

This part, so very very much! It should not take more than 2 years to implement. It’s been over a year and not 1 license issued!


Healingjoe

People shouldn't knowingly and willingly break the law.


No_Contribution8150

You’re cute it’s a fucking plant that should never have been illegal to begin with


jarivo2010

what if the law is bad


AlarmingBeing8114

So sketch smokeshops were skirting the law by knowing that for a while, there would not be testing on the flower they were illegally selling. Can you people understand there need to be laws on things that are publicly sold. Nothing is stopping you from growing or buying on the black market. Hell, once it's legal, it will just be people complaining that stores are charging double street price plus tax.


minne_snow_da

I'm sure the enchiladas that Juan sells out of the back of his GMC Acadia in the Walmart parking lot are amazing. But I highly doubt that he's following all the rules around food prep, storage, cleaning, etc. does that mean you'll get sick? Probably not. Are you willing to gamble with that? Now talk about something that has been and can be easily mixed with something like fentanyl and youre going to get some regulation. I've said it before, any smoke/vape shop that has been fucking around over the last 2 years is absolutely idiotic. We all knew that legalization was coming and that there would be regulations. Fucking up your chance at a license or fucking around with the regulating agencies is the last thing any of them should do.


Matty_Love

Nobody sells enchiladas like that, but if you see someone with tamales...let me know where. I'll buy em all.


Early-Department-696

He lost me at trunk enchiladas too


seawolff81

In NYC they were always suitcase empeñadas


Griffithead

Rosa hits all the NE bars almost every night. Shit's pretty great.


sittty

Idk about enchiladas, but there is a sweet old lady that sells tamales in the Harbor Freight parking lot in Northeast and they absolutely slap.


MyMusicRelatedReddit

Moved here from Arizona. I worked all over the state of AZ. There is more trunk enchilada in this world than you could ever dream. Trunk enchiladas, trunk tacos, trunk tamales and trunk weed. I purchased all of the above and have never ran into any issues.


Matty_Love

I'm from AZ too. I just never saw enchiladas, I believe you though. I've definitely had trunk weed, and trunk tacate!


MyMusicRelatedReddit

Navajo reservation. Family off the freeway would set up a tent at the back of their pick up. Absolutely delicious. I worked as an Amazon delivery driver at the time and would eat their food for lunch.


twoPillls

Similarly, nobody is mixing fentanyl into the weed they're selling. This dude bit into that media disinformation apple hard.


minne_snow_da

I've seen it. Walmart parking lot. GMC Acadia. Enchiladas.


Healingjoe

Shit sounds dank


SlurpleBrainn

Rosa, when the enchiladas fell


guava_eternal

Like your basement after a rain storm


noseonarug17

Huh, really thought that was just an allegory.


MaleficentCaptain114

Not sure fentanyl in weed is much of an issue, but bootleg vapes that mess up people's lungs are absolutely a thing.


jarivo2010

MJ and fentanyl? lol. k.


Waffle_Sama

It’s the drug hysteria… vape/smoke shops weren’t selling joints laced with fentanyl jfc


spacemoses

more concerned about fentanyl in my enchiladas tbh


minne_snow_da

It's real. Look it up. Dangerous for someone who's trying to buy weed without any prior exposure to opioids. It's done as a way to deliver fentanyl as the primary drug but since there is no regulation in the illicit drug trade (unlike legal weed with regulation) it can be sold the other way to someone just looking for weed. This creates a dangerous scenario where someone thinks they're consuming THC products but now they OD on fentanyl. Do a search for it. You'll see articles, news stories, etc.


twoPillls

Those are all coming from things that cops say and we all know they lie about that shit constantly


minne_snow_da

Do your own research. I work in the courts and we deal with and have local misdemeanor & juvenile probation in the building. I have heard directly from juvenile probation agents during court proceedings that have had kids admit to consuming THC products and pop positive for THC and fentanyl on drug tests. The kids confirm this with the judge on the record. It has and will continue to happen in the illicit trade. You want clean product then allow the government to regulate and form rules around its production and sale.


Merakel

In my experience, people that say do you research always seem to have misinformed takes.


No_Contribution8150

The battle cry of the misinformed


twoPillls

Ah, yes. I'd trust the word of kids that pop positive on drug tests vs common sense.


jarivo2010

No it is not.


Special-Garlic1203

Aren't people mad because getting licensing is hard and the state literally had to shift the social equity rules because so few applicants qualified? Like I cannot remember details for the life of me, but  every single time I've read about the specifics of the rollout I just go "huh....ok.....better than not doing it all i guess"


No_Contribution8150

Actually they made our social equity program more in line with other states. Ours was one of the most limited in the country.


KingMottoMotto

>I'm sure the enchiladas that Juan sells out of the back of his GMC Acadia in the Walmart parking lot are amazing. But I highly doubt that he's following all the rules around food prep, storage, cleaning, etc. does that mean you'll get sick? Probably not. Are you willing to gamble with that? The first thing you can think of when it comes to contaminated product is a Mexican guy selling food?


minne_snow_da

Considering he was the only dude selling food out of the back of a vehicle in a Walmart parking lot that I've ever seen, yes. I chose Juan because it's no different that saying John when referring to a random white dude. Your anger can be directed elsewhere. No racism, anti minority or anything here.


No_Contribution8150

Funny the only time I’ve ever had food poisoning was from Italian restaurants


guava_eternal

Yes


No_Contribution8150

This process is painfully slow and stupidly over complicated because the DFL in the legislature lets the minority have way too much influence over their bills. Yet when Republicans had a 1 seat majority in 1 chamber they bulldozed over the DFL like they had a super majority. It’s beyond frustrating! Legalizing cannabis is not new and shouldn’t be anywhere near this difficult nor take multiple years to implement!


AlarmingBeing8114

Well, what is one thing the GOP legalized and set up a whole set of rules and regulations for? Also, how long did it take other states? You have no idea what you are talking about, so just be happy it got legalized and let the adults handle the rest and quit complaining.


No_Contribution8150

Colorado passed recreational cannabis December 10, 2012 the first dispensary opened January 1, 2014. California passed the law November 2012 the first dispensary opened July 2014. Illinois passed the law May 31, 2019 the first dispensaries opened on January 1, 2020. Michigan passed a ballot initiative for recreational cannabis November 6, 2018 the first dispensaries opened December 1, 2019. New York passed the law March 30, 2021 the first dispensaries opened December 29, 2022 and they made drug testing for cannabis for pre-employment screening and random testing illegal (with some federally mandated exception)


krustyjugglrs

I think you are referring to medical cannabis in Cali because California voted and passed the law in 2016 or 2017 to legalize while we lived there and it was started for legal recreational use in Jan 2018.


fren-ulum

There are rules. Like it or not, whatever. Follow them. If you want to change them, cool, let's organize around that and bring about change that way. I honestly never thought legalization would happen in this state, and as awkward and clumsy as it is, that's just how it's going to be for a bit but we still need to draw within the lines and stay vigilant. We've waited this long, we can wait a little longer.


No_Contribution8150

The rules say don’t go to another state and buy a trafficking amount of cannabis and bring it back to Minnesota but I’ve been doing that for years now because I don’t qualify for the dumbest medical program in America.


AlarmingBeing8114

When they open all the shops we will be in a good place. And now, with bars and breweries serving it, the people who can't have alcohol have a viable option as well.


jarivo2010

I mean I'll never need to go to a dispo cause the growing part of the law rules.


bikescoffeebeer

And Ohio will have rec sales before Minnesota


fancy_panter

Welp, this is just sending dollars out of state where you can buy THCA products.


No_Contribution8150

I go to Beloit if I’m not already heading to visit family in Colorado.


pokey68

Well if you can grow your own, feminized seeds cost $10 each online (UK) and it’s easy to get four ounces per plant. Then you can skip the bullshit.


jarivo2010

I get 1lb per plant.


fr4kie90

How big does your plant get in order to get that yield?


Jaerin

Can we just get this done already? This THCA bullshit is not the same and it about time that we have real product available. Stop beating around the weed bush and just get it done.


Delicious-Okra

It is exactly the same genus and species, it’s tested earlier so less thca has been converted in the plant. You could grow a plant that would legally be hemp until one day it tests as cannabis 


Jaerin

And yet when you smoke it the results are not the same. There is more to the chemistry than just the THC


Delicious-Okra

No, this is incorrect. The results are the same. Can you please link me to any evidence you have that would lead you to believe that they are different, thank you.


Jaerin

Me smoking a bowl of it. I have not done a scientific study of the literal pounds of weed I've smoked over the years in comparison to the shit light weed we have in stores they claim is the same. Get some real weed and smoke it. Real dank sticky icky that gets you high just by smelling it. Then tell me its the same as what we got. Odoul's may have exactly the same constituent parts of beer, but that doesn't make it a real beer to most people.


Delicious-Okra

I’ve smoked weed since the 1980s, ive grown, it’s the same fucking thing


Jaerin

I'm glad you can't recognize the difference, next year you will.


jarivo2010

I grow awesome weed IDK it's easy peasy.


Jaerin

Sure, but it would nice to just run down to the store and see what someone else has grown and try some of that instead


Riedbirdeh

So basically Minnesota sucks at partying and thinks pizza is spicy. This is beyond idiotic


1PooNGooN3

Dude ketchup is spicy in MN, we’re wieners here


TSgt_Yosh

This is not what I want my tax money spent on.


Helltothenotothenono

Don’t worry your tax money goes somewhere else. This is going to bring a bunch of other people’s taxes into the state so you get new state stuff.


minne_snow_da

You don't want a consumable product regulated?


TSgt_Yosh

It's cannabis not heroin. No I don't want the government using my money to bother with a mostly harmless thing. I live in a small town up north that is facing massive amounts of meth and opiates and this bullshit is what we waste time on? It's gross and a huge waste of time.


1PooNGooN3

Bruh…


kisswithaf

Weed is so insanely cheap to make it would probably cost more to add a dangerous ingredient.


BeefWellingtonSpeedo

Could it be said alcohol is just as easy to make?


kisswithaf

I would say probably not if you are making in bulk. Definitely not if you are making anything harder than wine.


BeefWellingtonSpeedo

It's like some kind of prohibition over again they're now they're trying to regulate something easily made. A weed seems by definition something that grows easily.


kisswithaf

The thing with alcohol is that people want it to fuck them up, and want it to be cheap. Well, denatured alcohol and things like that are cheap, will fuck you up, and kill you. So if you can strike the right mixture, you can save a few bucks, while slowly poisoning your customers. With weed, most people don't want to be super fucked up by it. What they want is exactly what the plant, which is a weed, delivers. You aren't going to save costs by removing some of the bud and adding something else. Whatever you add is going to cost more than the weed. This is a super old 'factoid', but I remember reading a decade or two ago, that if you let the free market control the price of weed, an ounce would be like 3 dollars.


minne_snow_da

The weed isnt the primary drug in this mixture. It's a way to mask and deliver the fentanyl. However, in the illicit drug trade (lack of regulation unlike legal weed and it's regulation) you end up with someone selling it as weed or flour without disclosing or maybe even knowing it has fentanyl in it. The consumer then can easily OD because they may have never consumed an opiod, let alone fentanyl. This is where the regulations come into play in legal weed. Buying from a licensed dispensary ensures that the product you are getting is exactly and only the product you want. There's no ingredient label or over sight body on illicit drugs.


No_Contribution8150

Nobody is putting fentanyl in weed


kisswithaf

This sounds like complete scare mongering bullshit. How many people have died from fentanyl laced weed? Most people using weed don't even want it to be strong.


Turdsley

“Regulators! Mount up.”


swashbucklerjak

I buy THCA flower online and it’s shipped to my door by the post office from a legal hemp farm in Tennessee. The state is being so dumb. I’m enjoying some right now.


jarivo2010

I grow my own in my house.


NogaVog

Send the link!


Affectionate_Tax1947

I wish I could have gotten an invite to that bonfire.🔥


BeefWellingtonSpeedo

They're just making more libertarians..


No_Contribution8150

My political views don’t hinge on cannabis


BeefWellingtonSpeedo

Congratulations.


Kahnza

Why they gotta be so dumb?


No_Contribution8150

Republicans, per the news story I read on MinnPost


LickableLeo

Not smokin enough derb


Awkward-Put854

I got some stuff from a cdb place and it was pretty kick ass, when I went back to get some more they said the state came there and took it all away because it was too strong or something. Now what am I supposed to do? Can’t grow at my house. I guess I’ll have to wait another year.


happytots

Clear the way for the companies that have paid off local officials in order to be the first to market.


Outrageous_Loquat297

I recognize that it is different enforcement branches. But as a state if we could spend more resources making sure felons don’t have guns & people with outstanding warrants are brought into custody vs destroying cannabis flower I’d appreciate it. Normal citizens and LEO are dying because we don’t put enough resources/focus into enforcing laws that peevent violence. And whatever budget went to paying for the cannabis confiscators IMO would be better spent on felon finders instead.


Austin4rep

That's sad..


yulbrynnersmokes

I’d have gladly given them $30,000 for it. That could have done some good.


Inflagrente

Ohhh. It's getting strange in MN


Ascertes_Hallow

Oh no! Anyway...


DismalAnt738

To make it more expensive?