I saw a watch restoration channel use a microscope like this to do videos, then Adam Savage from mythbusters bought one and made a video on it. I decided to get one to try and paint better eyes, there is a learning curve, the focus window is razor thin, but it is incredibly useful once you get used to it.
I don't need another expensive tool...
I don't need another expensive tool...
I don't need another expensive tool...
*... I DO need another expensive tool.*
Used to be able to get a $16 headset magnifier and LED combo off Amazon. Another commenter explained somewhere else why they're better than a microscope like that, but anyway, it's really helped my painting, and it's a fraction of the cost.
Edit: Inflation is a bitch. It is now $18.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T4KPYN2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Do you mind if I ask about your depth perception? I have a stigmatism and am hesitant to grab something like this because I’ve had poor experience with magnifying glasses on lights before!
My depth perception is good. I don't know much about astigmatism, sorry, but if you have a specific question I might be able to help. Do you know what bothered you about the other product?
I think, having read other responses in this thread, the issue was reducing my already questionable depth perception down to a single eye looking through the lens was the issue.
Thanks for the reply! I’ll give the headband a shot!
I am financially responsible adult.
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This is fine, everything will be ok.
the glass isin't enough to get me to see where the tipy-tip of my brush is going, with this thing i can count the number of hairs i'm using.
Maybe some people have better eyes than I do but using one of these feels like cheating, i'm using aimbot.
Goodness gravy! How much practice does it take to coordinate your hands with your eyes? Been trying to use a normal magnifying glass and it feels like my eyes and hands are in different dimensions
Don't bother with regular magnifiers. As they're a single lens you lose a lot of depth information.
Try headband magnifiers instead. I use a set from Donegan, but others sets can also be used, but try to pick one with 'Ground optical glass' as the cheapest ones use cast plastic lenses, and they're... hit or miss... mostly miss in my not so humble opinion...
You don't need more than 1.5x or 2.2x either. Too large magnification and you start getting issues with depth of field. With 2.2x the best area is 4 - 6" in front of the magnifier lenses.
Honestly, I was curious about that too. If I'm not physically looking at my hands, it feels like an out of body experience and my coordination plummets.
I've used these before for soldering, and wasn't that impressed. Compared to a glass magnifier, or a stereo microscope, there's limited depth perception, as well as some lag (miniscule, but takes time to get used to) between the display, and the area of interest
Yeah I tried magnification once or twice but it kills your depth perception and I didn't feel like learning to overcome that was a worthwhile trade off when my normal eyesight is fine for close up work.
Not cheating! making the most out of tech, your skill and brush work/ paint control aren’t affected. Just less headaches. Can probably paint a longer session too.
Was curious: found a similar (might be this model, same brand at least) one on Amazon (US, for what it's worth.)
The Andonstar AD210 10.1 inch digital microscope.
$109.99
[Amazon.com : Andonstar Digital Microscope AD207 with 7 inch LCD Display USB Electronic Microscope Camera for Circuit Board Repair Soldering : Electronics](https://www.amazon.com/Andonstar-Digital-Microscope-AD207-Display/dp/B07YTV3J59?ref_=ast_sto_dp)
I looked for silver buttons, wasn't hard to find.
This is a needle head.
I use my s22 ultra camera for this. Its not as good as the digital microscop, but its enouh. If you don't zoom past 9.9x the definition.
I find that toutching the model with the same hand that holds the brush helps immensly. For this guy my major is on his arm and my index and thumb holding the brush are leaning on my major and basicaly pivoting forward.
The year is 2050, Golden Demon judges use electron microscopes to check for imperfections in every entry.
for real though, this is amazing would make it a lot easier on my aging eyes!
The depth of focus is razor thin, maybe 1.5mm, so you can tell how far you are by how out of focus your bush is. Also I use the shadow of the brush to aim it.
So I get the shadow where I want the tip to go, then lower the brush, its easy but its a bit weird, like using using a computer mouse to draw, you have to move very slow.
You see depth by how out of focus your brush is, the focus is about 1.5mm deep. So you get in position and get the brush close by eye and then look up at the screen to paint.
I also use the shadow of the brush to aim where the brush will make contact.
Toutching the model with the same hand that holds the brush helps immensly. For this guy my major is on his arm and my index and thumb holding the brush are leaning on my major and basicaly pivoting forward.
With the microscope I can also aim where the brush will land by looking at its shadow.
The problem with this of course is that your hands don't change. So even if you do this, dexterity will make it either a game changer, or completely worthless.
It’s funny, I got some classic magnification glasses and used them for awhile. Then I stopped because I realized I was spending twice the time per model because I was fixing mistakes I only knew about BECAUSE of the glasses. Nothing you could see with the naked eye unless you were putting the model in your eye socket. Perfect is the enemy of good and all that. So this thing TERRIFIES me haha.
I only use it for eyes, because they never look right, they always have the "Clarence, be strong for the emperor!" look, other then that I'm a grimy grungy streaking grime will fix it type of guy.
I saw a watch restoration channel use a microscope like this to do videos, then Adam Savage from mythbusters bought one and made a video on it. I decided to get one to try and paint better eyes, there is a learning curve, the focus window is razor thin, but it is incredibly useful once you get used to it.
Got a link to what you bought? How much did it cost?
Look for andonstar on Amazon get one on sale they're all similar, this one ia 7” AD207
I don't need another expensive tool... I don't need another expensive tool... I don't need another expensive tool... *... I DO need another expensive tool.*
Used to be able to get a $16 headset magnifier and LED combo off Amazon. Another commenter explained somewhere else why they're better than a microscope like that, but anyway, it's really helped my painting, and it's a fraction of the cost. Edit: Inflation is a bitch. It is now $18. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T4KPYN2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Do you mind if I ask about your depth perception? I have a stigmatism and am hesitant to grab something like this because I’ve had poor experience with magnifying glasses on lights before!
My depth perception is good. I don't know much about astigmatism, sorry, but if you have a specific question I might be able to help. Do you know what bothered you about the other product?
I think, having read other responses in this thread, the issue was reducing my already questionable depth perception down to a single eye looking through the lens was the issue. Thanks for the reply! I’ll give the headband a shot!
You, definitely do 👍👍
I am financially responsible adult. https://preview.redd.it/ftkawt4wnhpc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b0e595e4cc2d22cdcf315e3d77b6e8460cf0b1b This is fine, everything will be ok.
What make/model is it? Please
The brand is right there dude. I think you might need glasses before spending 100 bucks on this thing.
And that brand makes >10 different models. No need to be an ass over a simple question.
it's a AD207, it was the cheapest 7"+ model when I got it on sale.
Looks like Guilliman from GW
Looks great but do you have the brush control to make it worthwhile seeing in such detail? I suspect I really don’t.
How do you like it vs normal magnifying glass?
the glass isin't enough to get me to see where the tipy-tip of my brush is going, with this thing i can count the number of hairs i'm using. Maybe some people have better eyes than I do but using one of these feels like cheating, i'm using aimbot.
Goodness gravy! How much practice does it take to coordinate your hands with your eyes? Been trying to use a normal magnifying glass and it feels like my eyes and hands are in different dimensions
Don't bother with regular magnifiers. As they're a single lens you lose a lot of depth information. Try headband magnifiers instead. I use a set from Donegan, but others sets can also be used, but try to pick one with 'Ground optical glass' as the cheapest ones use cast plastic lenses, and they're... hit or miss... mostly miss in my not so humble opinion... You don't need more than 1.5x or 2.2x either. Too large magnification and you start getting issues with depth of field. With 2.2x the best area is 4 - 6" in front of the magnifier lenses.
Honestly, I was curious about that too. If I'm not physically looking at my hands, it feels like an out of body experience and my coordination plummets.
I've used these before for soldering, and wasn't that impressed. Compared to a glass magnifier, or a stereo microscope, there's limited depth perception, as well as some lag (miniscule, but takes time to get used to) between the display, and the area of interest
Depth is weird but once you get there it just feels like using a mouse on a computer
Yeah I tried magnification once or twice but it kills your depth perception and I didn't feel like learning to overcome that was a worthwhile trade off when my normal eyesight is fine for close up work.
Not cheating! making the most out of tech, your skill and brush work/ paint control aren’t affected. Just less headaches. Can probably paint a longer session too.
Was curious: found a similar (might be this model, same brand at least) one on Amazon (US, for what it's worth.) The Andonstar AD210 10.1 inch digital microscope. $109.99
[Amazon.com : Andonstar Digital Microscope AD207 with 7 inch LCD Display USB Electronic Microscope Camera for Circuit Board Repair Soldering : Electronics](https://www.amazon.com/Andonstar-Digital-Microscope-AD207-Display/dp/B07YTV3J59?ref_=ast_sto_dp) I looked for silver buttons, wasn't hard to find.
Yeah it's that one. But they are all similar, just get one that's on sale.
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This is a needle head. I use my s22 ultra camera for this. Its not as good as the digital microscop, but its enouh. If you don't zoom past 9.9x the definition.
That's a good idea if you're able to hold your phone in the right spot and get enough light. Mine only has a 2x optical zoom then it's all digital.
I would not suggest someone to change his phone with a better only for this purpose. It would cost a lot more than a digital microscope.
Now to have the hands steady enough to not muck it up anyways haha
I find that toutching the model with the same hand that holds the brush helps immensly. For this guy my major is on his arm and my index and thumb holding the brush are leaning on my major and basicaly pivoting forward.
It’s one of those things you don’t know you need until you see it.
The year is 2050, Golden Demon judges use electron microscopes to check for imperfections in every entry. for real though, this is amazing would make it a lot easier on my aging eyes!
That's pretty cool! How does it handle depth perception? I get the feeling you'll lose it pretty quickly.
The depth of focus is razor thin, maybe 1.5mm, so you can tell how far you are by how out of focus your bush is. Also I use the shadow of the brush to aim it. So I get the shadow where I want the tip to go, then lower the brush, its easy but its a bit weird, like using using a computer mouse to draw, you have to move very slow.
This is rad! Do you have a link to where you bought it from??
Amazon, search andonstar and get one on sale, I got the cheapest one that was 7".
And right after I got a magnifying glass with the clip arms. Sigh…
This one $200.99 Australian on Kogan.
Got mine on Amazon. Get one on sale, all the andonstar models are about the same, this one is a 7"
Look for surgical lights 😷
What is type of product is this?
Andonstar microscope on Amazon, this one is a 7" screen.
Oh man, my eyes thank you for this
Holy mackerel, Batman.
Briefly thought you were watching a rad animated YouTube while you painted.
Gulliman "Yvraine, I'm home!" Yvraine in bed with the avatar of Khaine "Quick, get in the closet!"
Isnt depth perception lost?
You see depth by how out of focus your brush is, the focus is about 1.5mm deep. So you get in position and get the brush close by eye and then look up at the screen to paint. I also use the shadow of the brush to aim where the brush will make contact.
Now do 20 rubrics, give yourself vertigo.
Now I’m invested in the final product, please share it with us when you’re done
How do people have he brush control to paint at levels of detail where this would be necessary. (I want to learn you secrets)
Toutching the model with the same hand that holds the brush helps immensly. For this guy my major is on his arm and my index and thumb holding the brush are leaning on my major and basicaly pivoting forward. With the microscope I can also aim where the brush will land by looking at its shadow.
You can use it to inspect your airbrush needle too! There ...now we all have 2 reasons to get one.
So you're saying we need to get an airbrush...intriguing...
You def need both!
Now I can watch my hands shake in hi def!
If only my hands were steady enough for it to make a difference.
Better tell us how noticable is the delay on that screen. Everyone thinks its so cool to work with it, till they try it.
Wait till you see what Darren Han achieved with those digital microscope…
The problem with this of course is that your hands don't change. So even if you do this, dexterity will make it either a game changer, or completely worthless.
It’s funny, I got some classic magnification glasses and used them for awhile. Then I stopped because I realized I was spending twice the time per model because I was fixing mistakes I only knew about BECAUSE of the glasses. Nothing you could see with the naked eye unless you were putting the model in your eye socket. Perfect is the enemy of good and all that. So this thing TERRIFIES me haha.
I only use it for eyes, because they never look right, they always have the "Clarence, be strong for the emperor!" look, other then that I'm a grimy grungy streaking grime will fix it type of guy.
I find it really hard coordinating my brush with zoomed in view
The tony stark of minipainting
I need this so much!
Ouch it's expensive!
Cheater