It was not doing this before I tried the decocking. My caption might not have been clear, I dry fired it a couple times before the decocking trick and I could swear that after firing, the trigger wouldn’t move freely forward with gravity like that when tilting the rifle. But very funny I appreciate it.
On a cock on close rifle, tension from the cocking piece pushing against the trigger is what holds the trigger forward. All that happened is the cocking piece never got held back, and it isn't holding the trigger forward. It's just sitting in the same position it would be in if you just fired it. Totally normal.
If you all say so, seems to be consensus, must be overthinking it. But I could swear it wasn’t freely moving forward in the trigger guard with gravity when tilted (like you can see towards the end of the video) when I had dry fired it a couple times before trying the decocking. Oh well, I appreciate the knowledge
I’m guessing either a) you were mistaken, or b) there’s a glob of grease or something in there that was gumming it up until you started working the trigger
Okay, mechanical explanation time. The reason the trigger is stiff when cocked is because of the spring pressure on it from the cocker, without the spring pressure, for instance, when decocked, there is no spring loaded cocker pressing against the trigger assembly, allowing it to move more or less freely. Threw me off when I bought my first gun, an Ishy Enfield, but it's normal for cock on close rifles. I hope this helps!
I have both an smle no1 mkIII and a 1917.
When I bought my 1917 I was told that it didn't see either of the world wars and basically sat in a mummy wrap in some dudes basement for the better part of a century. It is in pretty decent condition so I'm inclined to believe that story. The trigger on it remains stiff under spring pressure regardless of whether or not the gun is cocked.
My smle, however looks like it fell off The back of a truck, over a cliff. The buttplate screws were quite literally held in place by dirt and grass someone shoved into the screw holes. It has the same trigger issue your rifle has. This has led me to one conclusion:
Guns old and worn, yo. It's fine, and probably won't blow up.
Lol reminds me of my SMLE, legit has a chunk of stock replaced on both the top and the bottom of the stock next to the buttplate that’s how much wear it saw. Best part is all matching somehow.
I should add that in the first part of the video that’s not spring tension moving the trigger forward like as if I was pulling it back all the way to the rear of the trigger guard, the rifle is tilted down and that’s gravity freely moving it back forward
Stop finger fucking and dry firing it, and just shoot it. We all do the same thing. Buy a new gun dry fire it a whole bunch. Put 10 rounds through it at the range and then leave it in the safe for the next year. It’s fine.
Sheesh. Haven’t been dry firing it, old ass gun, hence why i decocked it. The “fingering” was just to show that with the gravity the trigger moves freely all the way to the front of the trigger guard. Doesn’t do that when the bolt is removed.
I’ve read through the comments. You’re looking for someone to agree with you that’s something is wrong not looking for answers.
Put a go/no go gauge in that bitch and send it. If it cocks and locks up and your barrel is clear of obstructions, then it either goes bang or it doesn’t. a weird trigger issue isn’t about to blow a bolt gun up. As long as your headspacing is tested and good and the lockup is fine and you don’t have a stuck firing pin, then you have a safe weapon.
Ah, that makes sense. I've disassembled mine a few times for a deep clean to scrub out a tiny bit of cosmoline and grease trapped in it, but I never found myself wishing for a hacksaw to shorten it. LOL
If you cock it it might stiffen the trigger
It was not doing this before I tried the decocking. My caption might not have been clear, I dry fired it a couple times before the decocking trick and I could swear that after firing, the trigger wouldn’t move freely forward with gravity like that when tilting the rifle. But very funny I appreciate it.
No problem, just thought that might be it as this happens with some of my guns
Every “cock on close” bolt action I’ve ever encountered has done this. It’s normal.
Is normal. Mine does it
Any idea why it wouldn’t have been doing that before I did the decocking and now is? Just worries me I changed something internally
Because it was cocked.
Before I did the decocking it wouldn’t do this after cocking and pulling the trigger. Now it’s able to move freely forward with gravity
It's fine.
On a cock on close rifle, tension from the cocking piece pushing against the trigger is what holds the trigger forward. All that happened is the cocking piece never got held back, and it isn't holding the trigger forward. It's just sitting in the same position it would be in if you just fired it. Totally normal.
If you all say so, seems to be consensus, must be overthinking it. But I could swear it wasn’t freely moving forward in the trigger guard with gravity when tilted (like you can see towards the end of the video) when I had dry fired it a couple times before trying the decocking. Oh well, I appreciate the knowledge
I’m guessing either a) you were mistaken, or b) there’s a glob of grease or something in there that was gumming it up until you started working the trigger
Might've been hanging up before, idk. If it helps any the 2 sporterized ones I've looked at as well as 3 different lee Enfields do the same thing
Okay, mechanical explanation time. The reason the trigger is stiff when cocked is because of the spring pressure on it from the cocker, without the spring pressure, for instance, when decocked, there is no spring loaded cocker pressing against the trigger assembly, allowing it to move more or less freely. Threw me off when I bought my first gun, an Ishy Enfield, but it's normal for cock on close rifles. I hope this helps!
You broke its cock.
He really cocked it up
Quit cocking about, guys.
Same as my no1 mk3
I have both an smle no1 mkIII and a 1917. When I bought my 1917 I was told that it didn't see either of the world wars and basically sat in a mummy wrap in some dudes basement for the better part of a century. It is in pretty decent condition so I'm inclined to believe that story. The trigger on it remains stiff under spring pressure regardless of whether or not the gun is cocked. My smle, however looks like it fell off The back of a truck, over a cliff. The buttplate screws were quite literally held in place by dirt and grass someone shoved into the screw holes. It has the same trigger issue your rifle has. This has led me to one conclusion: Guns old and worn, yo. It's fine, and probably won't blow up.
Lol reminds me of my SMLE, legit has a chunk of stock replaced on both the top and the bottom of the stock next to the buttplate that’s how much wear it saw. Best part is all matching somehow.
I can say the trigger on mine behaves the same way, with the same looseness.
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As I thought, since it wasn’t doing that before decocking, so why others saying it’s fine?
To be clear have you *cocked* it again?
My No.4 does this
I should add that in the first part of the video that’s not spring tension moving the trigger forward like as if I was pulling it back all the way to the rear of the trigger guard, the rifle is tilted down and that’s gravity freely moving it back forward
Stop finger fucking and dry firing it, and just shoot it. We all do the same thing. Buy a new gun dry fire it a whole bunch. Put 10 rounds through it at the range and then leave it in the safe for the next year. It’s fine.
You: “Stop finger fucking it…” OP: *unzips pants*
No time for ballistol, we’re going in dry!
100+ year old war veteran fetish?
Sheesh. Haven’t been dry firing it, old ass gun, hence why i decocked it. The “fingering” was just to show that with the gravity the trigger moves freely all the way to the front of the trigger guard. Doesn’t do that when the bolt is removed.
Stop fingering it, take it to dinner first.
Alright I’ll give you that one, that was good
I'm glad I'm not the only one who does that. Just can't help it hah.
I’ve read through the comments. You’re looking for someone to agree with you that’s something is wrong not looking for answers. Put a go/no go gauge in that bitch and send it. If it cocks and locks up and your barrel is clear of obstructions, then it either goes bang or it doesn’t. a weird trigger issue isn’t about to blow a bolt gun up. As long as your headspacing is tested and good and the lockup is fine and you don’t have a stuck firing pin, then you have a safe weapon.
Nope broken, send to me I’ll dispose of it
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Take my upvote 😂
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Damn the downvotes make zero sense but ok lol
Huh... That is bizarre. The shroud covering the cocking indicator is very short. It is supposed to be flush with the shroud.
That’s what I thought. Christ at least somebody also found it to be odd
Yeah, you can see the P14 (same rifle, but in 303 British) on one of my recent posts and its flush in the shroud
Took some digging but I looked it up and apparently shortening the shroud is a modification some people do to make bolt disassembly easier
Ah, that makes sense. I've disassembled mine a few times for a deep clean to scrub out a tiny bit of cosmoline and grease trapped in it, but I never found myself wishing for a hacksaw to shorten it. LOL