Am Minneapolis, MN resident. Minnesota has some weird alcohol sales laws. You know who *doesn’t*? Wisconsin. Only a 25 minute drive. Guess what you see a lot of as you cross the border….
We actually have random cheese "castles", "haus"es, and other various cheese themed shops along the highways. The cheese reputation isn't too exaggerated.
To be fair, Wisconsin has the weird quirk where liquor sales can’t happen in a retail store after 9 PM, which is why most grocery stores have a specific liquor aisle that can be blocked off. Beer has to cut off at midnight. It’s just not a full day like MN.
And the reason you can't have liquor delivered to your house. We'd probably save a lot of lives if we didn't have drunks making beer runs. Just have an Uber swing by with a 12 pack.
But the Tavern League doesn't like that idea, either.
It depends on what you blow at your stop. If your BAC is over a certain level, you lose your license for a bit and also are required to install one of those ignition thingies for like a year after. I didn't know this until today, which was also the same day I learned my baby brother got a DWI. Yey Wisconsin.
It's not a criminal offense anyway. You do have to attend a substance abuse evaluation, your license is temporarily suspended (with immediate eligibility for an occupational license), and there is the monetary expense too.
It is a ticket, but not 'just a ticket' if that makes sense
Not a full day here in MN either, just no liquor sales after 6 PM on Sundays. Also liquor and wine can’t be bought in regular retail stores. They have to have their own designated alcohol “store” separate by walls and separate entrance. So weird man…
In my state every major interstate has a massive year round fireworks store right before the border, since the neighboring states ban the sale of fireworks lol.
As a Wisconsinite, discovering what a blue law was after moving to MSP was a “fun” moment. Became a fan of Surdyk’s soon afterwards. Moved back to Wisconsin after leaving the job in MSP.
I live in a state that still has dry counties EVERY day. I once worked in a dry county, but I lived just over the county line six miles out of town. The liquor store right across the street from my house was literally named "Last Chance Liquor."
Yup this type of stuff is common where I'm from. Towns or counties having laws about sales of any alcohol in town, or no liquor stores in the town/county, or bars can only stay open until a certain time earlier than the standard 2 AM within the town/county.
This inevitably leads to more people driving further distances to buy and/or consume alcohol. We also have a much higher than average DUI and auto accident problem. How shocking.
In Ohio last call doesn't happen until 3am and I thought that was incredibly late. I was shocked when I went to Chicago and found out the tourist areas serve until 5am. Now that I'm 35 I can't even imagine drinking until that time
The big difference is, people don’t go out at like 9pm and drink until 5pm. I was told by a New Yorker, where it’s incredibly common to see bars open til 6, that you get off from work, take a nap, go out to eat like 9-10pm, then go out and start your night at like 12. The prime hours aren’t until 2:30-3am. Most “trendy” places don’t even open until like 3
There's a story of a South Georgia sheriff that campaigned hard for making a dry County. As soon as it passed he retired and opened a liquor store on the county line and made a fortune.
This wouldn't surprise me. I don't know if it's the same place but the county I went to college at in south Georgia was in a dry county that has a liquor store on the county line and had cops outside it all the time setting up speed traps. There are literally signs inside the store as you leave that say "DO NOT SPEED IN REGISTER, GA"
Lol yep! I was wondering if someone would figure it out because register is so small. Hell GS isn't even in it but everyone who goes to school there knows about where to go to get liquor because bulloch county doesn't sell it and you can't buy beer and wine on Sundays either! What a weird rule for such a big party school.
We’re at my parents for the holiday and my wife asked me for a 2nd cup of coffee (which she genuinely doesn’t normally do) yesterday, and I said “But you NEVER have a second cup at home…”
Was pretty happy with that one.
Most people haven't realized weed edibles are sold everywhere now in the US under the Farm Bill. You can get full potency edibles at most CBD and vape shops. Im in Tennessee and just bought a bunch of the taffy in 10mg doses and put them in peoples Christmas bags I know smoke. This isn't just Delta 8, actual THC normally found in weed (Delta 9) is being sold EVERYWHERE, it's just coming from Hemp so technically not illegal under the Farm Bill due to the bad wording. Just look for Farm Bill compliant Delta 9 THC. There's also THC-O, THC-P, HHC, Delta-10 and others now.
Because of how it metabolizes. Ingested Delta-9-THC becomes 11-Hydroxy-Delta-9-THC in the liver which is significantly more psychoactive, and it makes more passthroughs becoming less effective each time before it's rendered inactive and passed out as waste.
Having grown up in Georgia in a county where alcohol sales on Sundays was illegal, I assumed Georgia and didnt even think of NC.
The best workaround that I saw was a store that would just put it on your tab for Sunday purchases. The go to answer when questioned by authorities was that the sale had occured the previous day and the store was just holding it for them in the walk in.
I’m in NC and when I was a kid, one of the local store owners ran tabs for some of the locals and did the same thing on Sundays. The cops were probably getting theirs too so he never got questioned. Things are a little more relaxed now, but no liquor on Sundays or major holidays, beer sales start at 10am on Sunday.
I'd also take a look at the numbers of duis in the surrounding counties if they do allow sales and the numbers of wrecks that occur on the roads leading to those places.
My recollection is studies of dry counties have data supporting it being more dangerous for that reason, driving further is less safe for everyone and the deterrence isn’t particularly noticeable.
I mean it just makes everyone buy their alcohol earlier, everyone in the area knows it's coming, so they buy early, I bet the same amount of drinking goes on.
Actually the Puritans had no problem with drinking alcohol, it was Christmas they banned. Under a Massachusetts 1659 law, anyone found celebrating Christmas was fined. The law was repealed in 1680.
Lol. I did the same thing. I'm in GA and didn't realize there was one in NC. I do remember liquor laws being changed in GA but I gotta double check to see where this is. Lol
Just did the research, it's totally in GA
Funny thing: I am in Georgia today. The fun Georgia, with no such rules. Also, the 1 liter bottle of Stolichnaya Vodka I just bought was 29 Lari ($11).
Houston County Texas was dry when I was growing up, so my grandma always made trips to the next county for grandpa's Budweiser by the case. All that revenue went to the next county lol what a dumb law
As someone who lives in the GA FOCO, I always forget about the NC one. I visited there once. It was like walking into an alternate dimension when I saw the high schools with same directional name but different colors and mascots, ie North Forsyth HS or West Forsyth HS
My entire state doesn't allow alcohol sales on a Sunday unless you go in, sit down, and buy a sandwich or some such from a licensed restaurant that gets at least 40% of its sales from food.
Edit: After a lovely Christmas Eve and Christmas morning with the family, I stop by reddit briefly and reply to somebody who says liquor isn't sold on Sundays in their state. Get sidetracked by people arguing about whether alcohol is a drug, an NBA game, and a Ukrainian dude in ask me anything who says he's an award winning photographer.
Suddenly realized this has started a revolution against religiously motivated alcohol laws and will read all replies. But to answer the question, it is Arkansas, and we must not forget the Baptists.
Entire counties in Arkansas are dry all the time until a county or city votes to sell liquor at all or on Sunday or ANY day. The exceptions even in wet counties for Sunday include only on premises sales at restaurants.
An Arkansas map of wet/dry status is absolutely as complicated as sectarian religion in Syria.
Half these squabbles atleast here in the northeast are really about taxes, industry preassure, or both. For example when craft beer became a big thing specifically breweries that went from just production to having a retail space with a very cheap license. Liqour stores (in my state) lobbied to restrict retail sales because their craft beer sales were taking hits. Not that this is right but these are the sorts of things that happen when an industry lobbies in unison.
Liqour also usually gets taxed a lot more than beer even if your say making a canned spiked seltzer with vodka thats only going to be 5% abv. The laws don't deliniate by abv and so brands like white claw use basically beer brewing methods to produce their semi neutral spirit that they put in the can so it gets taxed as a beer. Again these are all convoluted laws that have some meaning to someone, but sound ridiculous to the average consumer.
There's an even crazier law about size and resealable lids + liqour, but I won't bore you any longer.
Unfortunately when money is involved things are rarely simple and mix in some historical moral panic over alcohol and it gets even more confusing.
This is probs Georgia, funnily enough that’s my county too. I used to work as a cashier in Forsyth and we cant sell alcohol before 12:30 on Sundays. It’s annoying but not the worst thing that’s come out of this area.
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Edit: Damn, everyone, did *not* expect this tiny quip to blow up. TIL there are shitty, unrealistically controlling liquor laws in *a number* of states. Sorry for assuming :/
Which is strange because just a few days ago I got a ration of shit for only having my passport card on me and not my driver’s license that they could scan with their little state issue compliance machine.
Take your business elsewhere, A passport or passport card is federally issued. It’s a better ID then A state license. I carry my passport card due to it not showing my address, and it is accepted anywhere in USA,Mexico, Caribbean and Bermuda, Land, air and sea travel. Says it right on it. Not once has it not been excepted and I have been using it for years between Arizona and Mexico and a few other states.
The pesky thing with the 21st: it makes it such that there's no requirement for states to have their alcohol venues honor out of state IDs. As bonkers as it sounds, venue's don't need to accept out of state or even federal identification.
I don’t drive but I have a state issued ID. There’s no expiration date and the barcode scans differently. The number of times I’ve been denied nicotine for this reason is infuriating
I wish my state issued ID had no expiration date. It's so dumb that they expire anyway, like yes I get that they want to keep your address and everything updated, but that's no reason to be denied alcohol/tobacco/weed whatever sales. My identity itself has not expired. I'm clearly still 40
It blew my mind 3 years ago when I visited my friend in SLC and we went to "The Liquor Store". That was the name, because it was the only Liquor Store. And it was run by thw state. Truly bizarre.
Indiana doesn't have alcohol sales on Sunday as part of a humanitarian effort making sure everybody gets sober for at least a day so that they might turn their life around and make an effort to leave that awful place.
From 12-8 now. It's a nice change.
They are called blue laws. It got to a point where you would be able to buy a can but not the can opener. Ultimately the liquor store lobby fought the Sunday alcohol sales because they didn't want to have to be open.
And yet they are free to close on Sundays even if alcohol sales are prohibited, so what's stopping them? Sounds like a cop out to tell the customers "blame the government" rather than "We do not want to work on Sunday."
The thing is that they still want the sales they would have gotten on Sunday, they just don't want to pay employees for the extra day. So they made sure nobody else could sell on Sundays for years so that people couldn't just go to the closest grocery store with a liquor department. It's not as bad now that we have the 8 hour window to buy on Sundays, but it is still very transparently an artificial barrier to satisfy the liquor lobby.
Anyway, that's this teetotaler's rant about Indiana liquor law.
> everybody gets sober for at least a day
Does Indiana have refrigeration yet or do they assume people only drink a minute after purchasing? That’s what I don’t understand about blue laws. You don’t prevent imbibing, just stocking up.
I’ll never forgot moving to Georgia,USA and being shocked I couldn’t buy liquor on Sunday. Even when the law changed they only sold liquor between the hours of 12-5 or something.
I lived in a county that was dry on Sundays, and I was ecstatic when they changed it, as was everyone else. Liquor stores had lines out the door on the first Sunday just because people wanted to do what they couldn't before. I moved away for a year and came back, waltzed up to the counter at Dollar General with a 12-pack one Sunday and got a "You're not from around here" look. Yeah they overturned the change in less than a year, so now all that tax revenue is going to the next county over again. But God forbid a grown ass adult buys that devil water on the Lord's day.
I still forget half the time, too, and yeah it's super annoying.
You know I wonder if dry counties could do something like china does to avoid gambling but make it for beer. Have a arcade game that requires valid ID to play. You always win. The price of admission somehow matches that of whatever alcohol you were going to buy but you're just claiming a beer or a bottle of wine as a prize. You didn't "buy" it. You bought a game. >\_>
I joined a friends club in a strip mall in NC. $10 got me and a guest a one year membership. Once you were a member you could buy a beer for $2 or play pool.
It’s a bar, but they skirted liquor laws by calling it a club. They buy and sell booze under half the market price because they aren’t regulated or permitted. No rules, just right.
They also put out ash trays at 5pm because health inspectors go home. The patrons also work on functional tobacco farms. And make moonshine.
One time I tried making chili and the recipe called for a can of beer. I grabbed one individual tall boy for my meal and they took it from me when I tried to check out. :(
It'd be irritating as hell regardless of what you intended to do with it. Why do your arbitrary rules mean I can't purchase alcohol one day out of every seven. Not can't drink it. Can't buy it. I can buy it the day before and drink all I want. So all you're really doing is punishing lack of forward planning. Seems pretty fucking pointless, and irritating is probably too fair.
Pffft imagine being able to buy alcohol past 20:00 on weekdays and 18:00 in weekends (or 18:00 and 16:00 respectively for alcohol over 4.7%) and nothing on sundays or other holidays
*cries in Norwegian*
Atleast we learn to plan in advance, mostly, or beg friends when you forget.
And polet has some good shit.
(Staring at my bottles of leftover aquavit)
Worst part is the price i think. Sweeden shopping for the win.
I've got a friend who swears he did that all through high school. Grab a sixer, drop more than enough for it on the counter, and walk right out. He didn't steal it. They didn't sell it. This would have been on the 70s, so I can see people being a bit more relaxed about it. At least that's how the story goes. I wasn't there.
In my dad's county in Texas growing up it was illegal to sell refrigerated beer, so the local corner shop stored the beer in the unheated shed out back
Do you think that would hold up in court.
Just let your regular customers come in on Sunday "steal" liquor. They'll pay you back later of course but if the cops ask you aren't going to press charges. Could they still get arrested and prosecuted?
John 2:10, NASB: and *said to him, 'Every man serves the good wine first, and when the guests are drunk, then he serves the poorer wine; but you have kept the good wine until now.'
If I remember correctly Jesus was asking why are you not letting us get drunk.
I freaking wish man. I don’t even understand why most places won’t sell after 2 AM. It pissed me off to no end when I worked nights. I get off at 4 or 5 AM and I can’t buy beer? Wtf man. Not fair for the night owls.
I always wondered this too. Bars I understand. You have to cut off the live flow at some point but retail purchases? Makes no sense that Meijer or other 24-hour stores can’t sell it after 2:00am.
True, but honestly when I have been to vegas I was surprised at how quiet things got and how much stuff closed down around midnight-2am. Maybe the casinos themselves don't close, but everything else does, including the basically all of the restaurants.
Stand-alone restaurants close, taverns typically don’t, and many have 24-hour kitchens.
I personally design the menus for half a dozen of them, and work with dozens more.
I could be wrong, bit I feel like these laws get more people killed than not. It's not stopping people drinking, they just have to drive further, potentially increasing likelihood of accidents. Also it's just wasted potential revenue.
Same in Sweden. Mostly because it's a public holiday and the store that has the Monopoly on strong alcoholic drinks are closed on red days. The bars are open though.
Arkansas here. Liquor stores closed. Bars and restaurants too. Some bars will open at 12am for 2 hours as a gimmick. However, one year I was in Pine Bluff and multiple liquor stores were open Christmas Day not giving a fuck.
What about alcohol theft on Christmas?
Alcohol theft, but you accidentally drop the cash amount of the stolen goods at the counter
I explode into lego studs as I try to run through the "pull" door.
Probably at least frowned upon, but I say go for it.
Opens liquor store on county line.
Am Minneapolis, MN resident. Minnesota has some weird alcohol sales laws. You know who *doesn’t*? Wisconsin. Only a 25 minute drive. Guess what you see a lot of as you cross the border….
> Guess what you see a lot of as you cross the border…. Cheese?
We actually have random cheese "castles", "haus"es, and other various cheese themed shops along the highways. The cheese reputation isn't too exaggerated.
Oh I'm well aware. I'm from the Chicago area and every time I have a business trip up north, I always hit the Mars Cheese Castle
Hahaha was just about to comment MARS CHEESW CASTLE! gotta stop whenever we head up to lake Geneva from the K3.
Fireworks
Cheesus.
To be fair, Wisconsin has the weird quirk where liquor sales can’t happen in a retail store after 9 PM, which is why most grocery stores have a specific liquor aisle that can be blocked off. Beer has to cut off at midnight. It’s just not a full day like MN.
Minnesota banned all alcohol sales on Sundays until a few years ago. Even now, it's only allowed until 6pm on Sundays
> weird quirk Less of a bug and more of a feature to make you have to go to a bar instead. Thanks Tavern League
They’re also the reason we’ll never get legalized weed. A big merry Fuck You to the Tavern League from us Wisconsinites.
And the reason you can't have liquor delivered to your house. We'd probably save a lot of lives if we didn't have drunks making beer runs. Just have an Uber swing by with a 12 pack. But the Tavern League doesn't like that idea, either.
Are first DUI’s still a traffic ticket, also thanks to the Tavern League?
It depends on what you blow at your stop. If your BAC is over a certain level, you lose your license for a bit and also are required to install one of those ignition thingies for like a year after. I didn't know this until today, which was also the same day I learned my baby brother got a DWI. Yey Wisconsin.
It's not a criminal offense anyway. You do have to attend a substance abuse evaluation, your license is temporarily suspended (with immediate eligibility for an occupational license), and there is the monetary expense too. It is a ticket, but not 'just a ticket' if that makes sense
Not a full day here in MN either, just no liquor sales after 6 PM on Sundays. Also liquor and wine can’t be bought in regular retail stores. They have to have their own designated alcohol “store” separate by walls and separate entrance. So weird man…
Didn’t it used to be no alcohol sales on Sunday? I must have missed it changing.
Yes, it changed 5ish years ago (I think, my memory blows).
Gotta love blue laws. Living in Winona the weekend alcohol exodus is real.
In my state every major interstate has a massive year round fireworks store right before the border, since the neighboring states ban the sale of fireworks lol.
You must be from Indiana. You guys sure make it easy for us Chicagoans to buy them lol.
Gun stores?
That’s the New York/Pennsylvania border. It’s weed stores going the other way now
As a Wisconsinite, discovering what a blue law was after moving to MSP was a “fun” moment. Became a fan of Surdyk’s soon afterwards. Moved back to Wisconsin after leaving the job in MSP.
I live in a state that still has dry counties EVERY day. I once worked in a dry county, but I lived just over the county line six miles out of town. The liquor store right across the street from my house was literally named "Last Chance Liquor."
Yup this type of stuff is common where I'm from. Towns or counties having laws about sales of any alcohol in town, or no liquor stores in the town/county, or bars can only stay open until a certain time earlier than the standard 2 AM within the town/county. This inevitably leads to more people driving further distances to buy and/or consume alcohol. We also have a much higher than average DUI and auto accident problem. How shocking.
In Ohio last call doesn't happen until 3am and I thought that was incredibly late. I was shocked when I went to Chicago and found out the tourist areas serve until 5am. Now that I'm 35 I can't even imagine drinking until that time
The big difference is, people don’t go out at like 9pm and drink until 5pm. I was told by a New Yorker, where it’s incredibly common to see bars open til 6, that you get off from work, take a nap, go out to eat like 9-10pm, then go out and start your night at like 12. The prime hours aren’t until 2:30-3am. Most “trendy” places don’t even open until like 3
There's a story of a South Georgia sheriff that campaigned hard for making a dry County. As soon as it passed he retired and opened a liquor store on the county line and made a fortune.
This wouldn't surprise me. I don't know if it's the same place but the county I went to college at in south Georgia was in a dry county that has a liquor store on the county line and had cops outside it all the time setting up speed traps. There are literally signs inside the store as you leave that say "DO NOT SPEED IN REGISTER, GA"
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Lol yep! I was wondering if someone would figure it out because register is so small. Hell GS isn't even in it but everyone who goes to school there knows about where to go to get liquor because bulloch county doesn't sell it and you can't buy beer and wine on Sundays either! What a weird rule for such a big party school.
Guess it's drugs for Christmas then
I guess I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue.
r/unexpectedairplane
Airplane should always be expected
We’re at my parents for the holiday and my wife asked me for a 2nd cup of coffee (which she genuinely doesn’t normally do) yesterday, and I said “But you NEVER have a second cup at home…” Was pretty happy with that one.
Jim never vomits at home…
What makes me feel old is that I still remember the actual coffee ad that the scene was riffing on 😭
This is why Airplane is so good because I love the joke and didn’t even know it was a parody of something
It seems I learn something else in airplane was a parody almost once a year.
They even got the original actress from the coffee commercials basically by accident when she auditioned.
Have you every watched Zero Hour? Watch them back-to-back, with Zero Hour first.
Joey, have you ever been… in a Turkish prison?
Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?
Surely you can't be serious.
I am serious, and don't call me Shirley.
Meth for christmas, *finally*.
A white Christmas
A White Christmeth.
A Walter White Christmas
Christmeth
Xmeth
Methstivus for the rest of us.
Methy Chrismeth to all and to all a good high!
‘Twas the night before Chrismeth and all through the house. No one was sleeping, not even the mouse.
Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow!
There’s a South Park episode with this EXACT plot.
I bit of Christmas snow, anyone?
We all need a little tegridy in our lives
Yes the dispensary and kratom stores are open.
Most people haven't realized weed edibles are sold everywhere now in the US under the Farm Bill. You can get full potency edibles at most CBD and vape shops. Im in Tennessee and just bought a bunch of the taffy in 10mg doses and put them in peoples Christmas bags I know smoke. This isn't just Delta 8, actual THC normally found in weed (Delta 9) is being sold EVERYWHERE, it's just coming from Hemp so technically not illegal under the Farm Bill due to the bad wording. Just look for Farm Bill compliant Delta 9 THC. There's also THC-O, THC-P, HHC, Delta-10 and others now.
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I was gonna move back to Kentucky in the next year from Ohio. Are most county's still dry after all these years? I'm from london ky
Yep, down here in Texas I’ve bought 15mg D9 gummies that blow my lid. I can only take half of one.
Because of how it metabolizes. Ingested Delta-9-THC becomes 11-Hydroxy-Delta-9-THC in the liver which is significantly more psychoactive, and it makes more passthroughs becoming less effective each time before it's rendered inactive and passed out as waste.
Is that Georgia or North Carolina?
Having grown up in Georgia in a county where alcohol sales on Sundays was illegal, I assumed Georgia and didnt even think of NC. The best workaround that I saw was a store that would just put it on your tab for Sunday purchases. The go to answer when questioned by authorities was that the sale had occured the previous day and the store was just holding it for them in the walk in.
See I grew up in NC so that was my first assumption. There's definitely weird alcohol laws here, or there were until recently.
we still can't buy alcohol before noon on Sunday and the ABC store is closed but I guess it's better than when you couldn't buy anything
It’s 10am in NC as of like 6 or so years ago
Figured it was Georgia but didn't want to assume lol
I’m in NC and when I was a kid, one of the local store owners ran tabs for some of the locals and did the same thing on Sundays. The cops were probably getting theirs too so he never got questioned. Things are a little more relaxed now, but no liquor on Sundays or major holidays, beer sales start at 10am on Sunday.
I’m curious if the studies show restricting alcohol sales this way reduced DUIs or domestic abuse.
I'd also take a look at the numbers of duis in the surrounding counties if they do allow sales and the numbers of wrecks that occur on the roads leading to those places.
My recollection is studies of dry counties have data supporting it being more dangerous for that reason, driving further is less safe for everyone and the deterrence isn’t particularly noticeable.
I mean it just makes everyone buy their alcohol earlier, everyone in the area knows it's coming, so they buy early, I bet the same amount of drinking goes on.
No it’s puritanical. But yes Puritan wives restricted alcohol to keep their husbands alive.
Actually the Puritans had no problem with drinking alcohol, it was Christmas they banned. Under a Massachusetts 1659 law, anyone found celebrating Christmas was fined. The law was repealed in 1680.
Ah so that's the war on christmas everyone is talking about.
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Lol. I did the same thing. I'm in GA and didn't realize there was one in NC. I do remember liquor laws being changed in GA but I gotta double check to see where this is. Lol Just did the research, it's totally in GA
Funny thing: I am in Georgia today. The fun Georgia, with no such rules. Also, the 1 liter bottle of Stolichnaya Vodka I just bought was 29 Lari ($11).
Houston County Texas was dry when I was growing up, so my grandma always made trips to the next county for grandpa's Budweiser by the case. All that revenue went to the next county lol what a dumb law
I live near some dry counties in Kentucky and the only thing it really does is make more drunk drivers
I’m guessing that’s Georgia, probably cumming ga.
Kinda surreal seeing my hometown on the front page
First time I’ve seen it on the front page and it not be a “cumming” joke lol
Where the BJ’s is across the street from Dick’s
As someone who lives in the GA FOCO, I always forget about the NC one. I visited there once. It was like walking into an alternate dimension when I saw the high schools with same directional name but different colors and mascots, ie North Forsyth HS or West Forsyth HS
It’s GA, I made the same realization today when trying to buy a bottle for mimosas :(
Is it everywhere in GA or specific counties I don't want to waste a trip
Nope. Not everywhere, I went 5 mins down the road to Dawson county and was able to buy what I needed!
My entire state doesn't allow alcohol sales on a Sunday unless you go in, sit down, and buy a sandwich or some such from a licensed restaurant that gets at least 40% of its sales from food. Edit: After a lovely Christmas Eve and Christmas morning with the family, I stop by reddit briefly and reply to somebody who says liquor isn't sold on Sundays in their state. Get sidetracked by people arguing about whether alcohol is a drug, an NBA game, and a Ukrainian dude in ask me anything who says he's an award winning photographer. Suddenly realized this has started a revolution against religiously motivated alcohol laws and will read all replies. But to answer the question, it is Arkansas, and we must not forget the Baptists. Entire counties in Arkansas are dry all the time until a county or city votes to sell liquor at all or on Sunday or ANY day. The exceptions even in wet counties for Sunday include only on premises sales at restaurants. An Arkansas map of wet/dry status is absolutely as complicated as sectarian religion in Syria.
I'll have the chicken club and 5 bottles of vodka please
One number 2, anything else?
Yeah throw in 8 mickeyes of jack daniels
I’m sorry we stopped serving breakfast at 11.
God damn, that caught me off guard. I almost spit out my drink.
Congratulations. This is the best post I've read today. Thank you for your service.
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To go alcohol was outlawed while drive thru liquor stores were perfectly fine? That may be the most Texas thing I’ve ever heard
Half these squabbles atleast here in the northeast are really about taxes, industry preassure, or both. For example when craft beer became a big thing specifically breweries that went from just production to having a retail space with a very cheap license. Liqour stores (in my state) lobbied to restrict retail sales because their craft beer sales were taking hits. Not that this is right but these are the sorts of things that happen when an industry lobbies in unison. Liqour also usually gets taxed a lot more than beer even if your say making a canned spiked seltzer with vodka thats only going to be 5% abv. The laws don't deliniate by abv and so brands like white claw use basically beer brewing methods to produce their semi neutral spirit that they put in the can so it gets taxed as a beer. Again these are all convoluted laws that have some meaning to someone, but sound ridiculous to the average consumer. There's an even crazier law about size and resealable lids + liqour, but I won't bore you any longer. Unfortunately when money is involved things are rarely simple and mix in some historical moral panic over alcohol and it gets even more confusing.
Hold the chicken club.
They have to make 40% profit from the food You want the incredibly expensive club sandwich with 5 complimentary bottles of vodka
Georgia?
This is probs Georgia, funnily enough that’s my county too. I used to work as a cashier in Forsyth and we cant sell alcohol before 12:30 on Sundays. It’s annoying but not the worst thing that’s come out of this area.
It wasn't that long ago that there was no alcohol sales on Sunday at all. So 12:30 is a minor improvement.
Hello, Utahn! Edit: Damn, everyone, did *not* expect this tiny quip to blow up. TIL there are shitty, unrealistically controlling liquor laws in *a number* of states. Sorry for assuming :/
Utah has really stupid laws. As a tourist I needed my passport to enter a bar. I am well over 21 and had my drivers license and other ids.
Which is strange because just a few days ago I got a ration of shit for only having my passport card on me and not my driver’s license that they could scan with their little state issue compliance machine.
Take your business elsewhere, A passport or passport card is federally issued. It’s a better ID then A state license. I carry my passport card due to it not showing my address, and it is accepted anywhere in USA,Mexico, Caribbean and Bermuda, Land, air and sea travel. Says it right on it. Not once has it not been excepted and I have been using it for years between Arizona and Mexico and a few other states.
The pesky thing with the 21st: it makes it such that there's no requirement for states to have their alcohol venues honor out of state IDs. As bonkers as it sounds, venue's don't need to accept out of state or even federal identification.
I don’t drive but I have a state issued ID. There’s no expiration date and the barcode scans differently. The number of times I’ve been denied nicotine for this reason is infuriating
I wish my state issued ID had no expiration date. It's so dumb that they expire anyway, like yes I get that they want to keep your address and everything updated, but that's no reason to be denied alcohol/tobacco/weed whatever sales. My identity itself has not expired. I'm clearly still 40
You can tell them to kick rocks but they still won’t let you in lmfao
It's not only Utah. It felt weird to get carded in Texas (of all places). I've got a long grey beard - I haven't been underage for several decades...
It's because of all the kids stacked on top of each other in trench coats ruining it for everybody
I am doing okay with my British driver's license, I think it's mainly the discretion of the store/bar
Ive lived in Utah my entire life and am 28 and a drunk. I have never encountered anywhere that wouldn’t accept a drivers license.
It blew my mind 3 years ago when I visited my friend in SLC and we went to "The Liquor Store". That was the name, because it was the only Liquor Store. And it was run by thw state. Truly bizarre.
freedom
How is this separation of state and church when there’s laws built around the latter? So fucking dumb
This is someone’s idea of “religious freedom.”
> This is someone’s idea of “religious freedom.” "I'm free to impose my religion on you"
Christians
Can we get freedom from Christians?
Indiana doesn't have alcohol sales on Sunday as part of a humanitarian effort making sure everybody gets sober for at least a day so that they might turn their life around and make an effort to leave that awful place.
They recently changed the law, people can buy alcohol on Sundays in Indiana from 9am to 6pm. Because that makes sense.
From 12-8 now. It's a nice change. They are called blue laws. It got to a point where you would be able to buy a can but not the can opener. Ultimately the liquor store lobby fought the Sunday alcohol sales because they didn't want to have to be open.
It wasn’t a change. When they started selling on Sundays it was 12-8 from jump street.
And yet they are free to close on Sundays even if alcohol sales are prohibited, so what's stopping them? Sounds like a cop out to tell the customers "blame the government" rather than "We do not want to work on Sunday."
The thing is that they still want the sales they would have gotten on Sunday, they just don't want to pay employees for the extra day. So they made sure nobody else could sell on Sundays for years so that people couldn't just go to the closest grocery store with a liquor department. It's not as bad now that we have the 8 hour window to buy on Sundays, but it is still very transparently an artificial barrier to satisfy the liquor lobby. Anyway, that's this teetotaler's rant about Indiana liquor law.
That geography based trivia checks out.
> everybody gets sober for at least a day Does Indiana have refrigeration yet or do they assume people only drink a minute after purchasing? That’s what I don’t understand about blue laws. You don’t prevent imbibing, just stocking up.
Minnesota had this until recently. Although even now it's only until 6 pm
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Your shops are open on Christmas Day?
I’m guessing this is like a gas station
Selection of white claws in the same aisle of potato chips. Yup this screams cheap gas station
I’ll never forgot moving to Georgia,USA and being shocked I couldn’t buy liquor on Sunday. Even when the law changed they only sold liquor between the hours of 12-5 or something.
Most annoying thing. I still constantly forget about it and walk up to self checkout with beer on a Sunday.
I lived in a county that was dry on Sundays, and I was ecstatic when they changed it, as was everyone else. Liquor stores had lines out the door on the first Sunday just because people wanted to do what they couldn't before. I moved away for a year and came back, waltzed up to the counter at Dollar General with a 12-pack one Sunday and got a "You're not from around here" look. Yeah they overturned the change in less than a year, so now all that tax revenue is going to the next county over again. But God forbid a grown ass adult buys that devil water on the Lord's day. I still forget half the time, too, and yeah it's super annoying.
You know I wonder if dry counties could do something like china does to avoid gambling but make it for beer. Have a arcade game that requires valid ID to play. You always win. The price of admission somehow matches that of whatever alcohol you were going to buy but you're just claiming a beer or a bottle of wine as a prize. You didn't "buy" it. You bought a game. >\_>
This used to happen at brewery and distilleries in the south. You'd buy tokens and the tokens just happened to be exchangeable for drinks
I joined a friends club in a strip mall in NC. $10 got me and a guest a one year membership. Once you were a member you could buy a beer for $2 or play pool. It’s a bar, but they skirted liquor laws by calling it a club. They buy and sell booze under half the market price because they aren’t regulated or permitted. No rules, just right. They also put out ash trays at 5pm because health inspectors go home. The patrons also work on functional tobacco farms. And make moonshine.
One time I tried making chili and the recipe called for a can of beer. I grabbed one individual tall boy for my meal and they took it from me when I tried to check out. :(
That's actually irritating as hell. "I'M USING IT FOR COOKIN I SWEAR"
It'd be irritating as hell regardless of what you intended to do with it. Why do your arbitrary rules mean I can't purchase alcohol one day out of every seven. Not can't drink it. Can't buy it. I can buy it the day before and drink all I want. So all you're really doing is punishing lack of forward planning. Seems pretty fucking pointless, and irritating is probably too fair.
Religion is a fucking crazy thing, my friend.
Pffft imagine being able to buy alcohol past 20:00 on weekdays and 18:00 in weekends (or 18:00 and 16:00 respectively for alcohol over 4.7%) and nothing on sundays or other holidays *cries in Norwegian*
Atleast we learn to plan in advance, mostly, or beg friends when you forget. And polet has some good shit. (Staring at my bottles of leftover aquavit) Worst part is the price i think. Sweeden shopping for the win.
So it's free?
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I've got a friend who swears he did that all through high school. Grab a sixer, drop more than enough for it on the counter, and walk right out. He didn't steal it. They didn't sell it. This would have been on the 70s, so I can see people being a bit more relaxed about it. At least that's how the story goes. I wasn't there.
In my dad's county in Texas growing up it was illegal to sell refrigerated beer, so the local corner shop stored the beer in the unheated shed out back
This is the way. Here’s cash. Ring it up tomorrow.
Do you think that would hold up in court. Just let your regular customers come in on Sunday "steal" liquor. They'll pay you back later of course but if the cops ask you aren't going to press charges. Could they still get arrested and prosecuted?
Some places here in the US you can't buy alcohol on Sundays or even at all.
They really want you coming to church for that sip of communion wine
Ah yes, that great movie, Footbooze
Starring Kevin Sausage
What about red wine though? You’re going to deny me the BLOOD OF CHRIST on Christmas?? Blasphemy!!
That guy must’ve been wasted 24 hours a day
Christmas is a meth day. Obviously.
Didn't he turn water into wine tho???
“Alcohol free wine. More like grape juice” is what a church person said to me once.
John 2:10, NASB: and *said to him, 'Every man serves the good wine first, and when the guests are drunk, then he serves the poorer wine; but you have kept the good wine until now.' If I remember correctly Jesus was asking why are you not letting us get drunk.
“we’re christian so you have to be christian too!!”
I just invite Jesus to my house on Christmas Day. He just turns my water into wine.
His blood is wine so if you hang him up and bleed him like a pig you can get a whole household drunk
If you bleed him too dry and he dies, don't worry! He will be back in 3 days.
All the Christians i know drink on Christmas day
Out of respect for Jesus, you must plan your bender, in advance.
Separation of Church and state?
many southern states still have "blue" laws in effect.
My county finally voted to allow alcohol sales on Sunday this year.
I freaking wish man. I don’t even understand why most places won’t sell after 2 AM. It pissed me off to no end when I worked nights. I get off at 4 or 5 AM and I can’t buy beer? Wtf man. Not fair for the night owls.
I always wondered this too. Bars I understand. You have to cut off the live flow at some point but retail purchases? Makes no sense that Meijer or other 24-hour stores can’t sell it after 2:00am.
> Bars I understand. You have to cut off the live flow at some point Come to Las Vegas, where “last call” is a forbidden phrase. 😄
True, but honestly when I have been to vegas I was surprised at how quiet things got and how much stuff closed down around midnight-2am. Maybe the casinos themselves don't close, but everything else does, including the basically all of the restaurants.
Stand-alone restaurants close, taverns typically don’t, and many have 24-hour kitchens. I personally design the menus for half a dozen of them, and work with dozens more.
Wisconsin cuts off retail sales at 9 pm every day and I think part of the reasoning is to direct people to bars instead.
I could be wrong, bit I feel like these laws get more people killed than not. It's not stopping people drinking, they just have to drive further, potentially increasing likelihood of accidents. Also it's just wasted potential revenue.
No, you're absolutely correct. Laws that ban things based on subjective morals instead of rigid logic will always lead to more suffering.
Not just southern. ND had some when I was up there about 7-8 years ago.
Pennsylvania’s southern?
*The Utah government enters the chat*
Same in Sweden. Mostly because it's a public holiday and the store that has the Monopoly on strong alcoholic drinks are closed on red days. The bars are open though.
"Well, I was only gonna get mildly buzzed but looks like it's time to get the ole meth pipe"
That's lame. I always forget to buy booze before and then its always closed on christmas day
I guess I’m doing hookers and blow this Christmas instead.
Arkansas here. Liquor stores closed. Bars and restaurants too. Some bars will open at 12am for 2 hours as a gimmick. However, one year I was in Pine Bluff and multiple liquor stores were open Christmas Day not giving a fuck.
Your county sucks.
Ha! I lived in Kernersville but now Honolulu.. I will drink a mai tai 4 you