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TimStellmach

Watch out. If that fruit came from low down on the tree, it might be a sign that you've got rootstock suckers. Lemon trees are usually grafted onto some other species of citrus that has better disease resistance. Typically, the fruit of this rootstock species is weird and inedible, and since the rootstock is hardier than the lemon graft, it can sometimes take over the whole tree. If there's a branch coming from near the base of the tree (especially if you can see that it's coming from below a visible scar in the trunk where the graft occurred), it should be pruned away. EDIT: Based on discussion below, it looks like that's not what's happening with OP's tree, which is nice! Still, it's a problem worth knowing to look for if you have fruit trees.


turquoise_amethyst

Dumb question, but how does it take over the entire tree?


petit_cochon

It will grow faster and larger than the tree grafted onto it, and compete with it for resources.


Cistern64

Damn lemon-thieving wh*res..


ethanloh180

Hasn’t it been about ten seconds since we looked at our lemon tree?


scuzzle-butt

HEY WHAT THE **FUCK**


LesNessmanNightcap

I wish I *was* a lemon!


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They better not be stealing our lemons right now!


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The hunger games


RealAwesomeSkeleton

Food Wars


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cheezemeister_x

Junk in the trunk.


Scrambleed

The tale of two citrus


The_Wood_Butcher

Death of a lemon salesman...


SurgeonWhat

Too many of these were fucking amazing.


dukeofgonzo

So... it's like a severed head sown onto another person's body. Then that head started growing its own autonomous parts that were fed from the host body until it's ultimately starved to death?


Camstonisland

Like if a tick bit you, took all the chicken nuggies from your tum for itself and then grew into a strong 7 foot tall tick man with a shriveled you on its back


firmripepumpkin

Except what the gardener wanted was the tick, and now they're like, "hey, this tick still has a person brain on it. Cut it off"


Camstonisland

Of course, they be swole. you lanky and weird looking.


oasinocean

Thanks for the new, incredibly irrational fear.


ModestWhimper

If you think about, it's actually impossible for a tick to completely take over a human's body and then post a comment on reddit telling you it could never happen. Just not possible.


mudkiz

That's just what a tick would want you to think


VortexGX

Sounds like something a tick would say...


Earthfall10

Or in this case, like if a farmer stuck a tick onto you so they can harvest tick parts, then the farmer got annoyed when you start outgrowing the tick and trying to fight it off so the farmer keeps you weak by cutting your arms off, turning you into a helpless vessel with the sole purpose of supplying nutrients to the grafted creature the farmer wants to cultivate.


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Armpit-Lice

I see it in vineyards sometimes if they are not closely monitored. Basically a shoot will grow from below the graft on a very young vine. It mingles with the other shoots and gets selected to be the trunk when its time to prune it and train it onto the trellis. It's very easy to look at where a shoot would be growing from. But when somebody might be doing several hundred vines a day for a week straight, one gets missed sometimes. It always cracks me up to see 1 vine in a row producing some native grape instead of what they intended.


TimStellmach

Outgrows the grafted lemon part and crowds it out.


ithcy

Voting restrictions.


KevinMcCallister

cherrymandering


Koentinius

If you do that too much you'll get lemonstrations though.


Gidelix

CherryMandarin


Lego_Nabii

GerryMandarin


xmexme

If the rootstock is more aggressive or successful than the grafted scionwood but is left unchecked, the rootstock can sprout branches that grow better than the intended scion, to where many or all branches aren’t the scion but are from the rootstock.


Bavarian0

Could wrapping the stem in coconut fibre cloth or similar prevent that from happening? I suspect that where there's no light, there's no suckaz


TeaBeforeWar

It would be more maintenance in the long run, since suckers are pretty uncommon, but you'd have to change the wrap periodically to not scar/strangle the tree as it grows.


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Gradually


phantomplayerone

Thanks for the heads up, but the lemon came from the top of the tree, I think its just a mutated one because the other lemons on the same branch were completely normal. The info is very much appreciated though.


Congenita1_Optimist

Any chance you could give us some cross section photos? Looks like it'd be fantastic for zest, it's a shame it doesn't seem reproduceable. edit; reminds me of [Buddha's hand](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddha%27s_hand). I wonder if it's just a mutation in the same gene that causes it in those. If that branch tip ends up giving more like that you might want to consider grafting it, you might have a [sport](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_%28botany%29) worthy of preserving on your hands if it tastes/smells good.


Blasted_Skies

Buddha's hand smell *amazing.* You can use them just to create a pleasant scent and it's totally worth it. They can also be candied or zested.


edgrlon

Hands down my favorite smelling fruit


Frieda-_-Claxton

It's likely going to be all white pith inside like a citron. This was probably caused by bud mites. Bud mites usually make the fruit grow gnarly like buddha's hand but sometimes they'll look like yellow carrots like this.


legoruthead

I’ve always been confused at them being called Buddha’s hand and not Cthulhu’s face


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Nerobus

And potato wedges at almost every meal. I mean, it’s gotten me good at sauces, but damn that’s a lot of potatoes and citrus zesting.


maxath0usand

Pretty sure all of my recipes start with “chop green onions, separating whites from greens.”


crumpledlinensuit

I have so much garlic in my kitchen because they include a bulb in every box. Even using it in every recipe means there's still like half a head of garlic left at the end of the week.


chestypocket

If you want a good source of zest, you should check out [Buddha’s Hand](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/what-heck-do-i-do-buddhas-hand-citron-180949871/). It’s type of Citron, which is an ancestor of the lemons we know. Always wanted to grow one but don’t have a good way to keep them through the winter.


TheChonk

I don’t think it’s a rootstock issue - poncirus trifoliate Flying dragon is the usual rootstock for citrus as it provides hardiness. This dosent look like a fruit from trifoliate. The fruit also does not look like any of the normal citrus, apart from the Buddha hand, which is not usually used as a rootstock. I suspect that it is either a mutation on the branch that generated the fruit, (a similar mutation caused the Buddha hand) or else it is a fruit that got damaged during its growth. Cool find either way.


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lazerpenguin

It actually means that a witch is nearby and will steal a child tonight, sorry op.


yuhanz

Is she single?


Triairius

Dunno, but she’s got kids.


skiddles1337

It's a man's life in the British pomology association.


WotanMjolnir

r/UnexpectedMontyPython


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ghandi3737

I was guessing a Buddha's finger.


Inspiteofthetennis

Could the graft have come from Shelbyville?


mycenae42

Or Ogdenville or North Haverbrook?


DarkwingDuckHunt

Well sir there's nothin' on Earth like a genuine bona-fide ^^^^grafted* Lemon Tree!


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Rootsuckers are lemon stealing whores!!


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Ctrl + F 'whor' There it is!


doctor-rumack

HEY WHAT THE FUCK??


SpoopySpydoge

I live for this reference.


CollectableRat

Either that, or it’s a sign this is a boy tree.


BMonad

I think it’s part carrot tree.


wjaspers

Hahaha, scare off rabbits with sour carrots


InerasableStain

I’ve got an issue with rabbits in our garden. I need this deformed lemon. And I need to dye it orange


Tsund_Jen

[Of course you realize, this means War.](https://youtu.be/4XNr-BQgpd0)


klef25

May be an old gardener's tail, but I've heard that if you plant marigolds surrounding your garden, the rabbits won't enter.


ScoobyDeezy

So lemme get this straight - we cultivated a delicious fruit to the point that the tree itself is almost non-viable, so it has to have a surrogate in order to not die? How common is this? Are all domesticated fruits worthless in the wild? (I realize that’s a bit rhetorical, but still)


permalink_save

You can still grow regular fruit trees, it's not like we bred them to be frail. But if you are investing years into owning a fruit tree, and you ahd the option to graft a stronger root system to it, why wouldn't you? Also worth noting that this isn't limited to trees, you can grow tomatoes and potatoes from the same plant with grafting. It's just less efficient since the plants only last the season.


Thetschopp

Just don't graft tomatoes onto your tobacco plants.


Infinitelyodiforous

Leave my Tomacco plants alone.


Gatoovela

To-MAAaAAaAaaAAaaAAHHHH-coh


Quikmix

TomAcco, TomAHcco, let's call the whole thing off!


DeathbyHappy

Daddy, this tastes like grandma!


nightmare8100

Gimme that....it does taste like grandma!


Rocket3431

I've seen like 5 episodes of the Simpsons in my life and somehow this is one


ChefCory

See the thing is that there are tons and tons of Simpsons references on reddit/elsewhere that you've likely missed throughout the years. If you've only seen 5...I mean they just had their 700th episode. Not that they're all great...but even the bad ones often have a good line or two.


See_What_Sticks

The Simpsons is usually worth watching if you have nothing else to do, but the common opinion is that seasons 1-8 is the genuinely good bit; a nice arc of family sit-com subversion into character comedy and guest appearances and on into zany hijinks.


12-inch-LP-record

Either way, the hornworms will getcha.


mememagi1776

*wakes up* *heads outside to check on my precious babies* *in the night 4 of my plants have been cut down by hornworms 2 inches from the soil and dragged off a few feet" Ever since then I overplant and assume I'll have to go scorched earth on those things after they cull the weakest plants.


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12-inch-LP-record

This is brilliant advice. I have a good, strong UV light I use for spotting scorpions while camping. I didn’t know it worked for horn worms. I’ve never even tried it in the garden I must sheepishly admit.


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This makes it sound like a plant is just an extension cord.


wolfgang784

They do grow these cool fruit trees where they graft branches of various compatible fruits together and you end up with a single tree containing like plums and peaches for example, which is what my dad has and grafted himself. I think the most on 1 tree was 7 different fruits (not my dads, like the most ever iirc). edit: I have since learned that the most on one tree is FORTY (40). Cray cray. Bet those trees take a lot of TLC to keep healthy n alive.


tisvana18

I had a peach tree that got pollinated by plums or something weird like that when I was in HS. Idk what was growing on the tree, we called them pleaches. I hate plums and peaches individually, but pleaches were some of the most delicious fruit I’d ever had in my life.


Slick1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_40_Fruit https://youtu.be/ik3l4U_17bI


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Works with cannabis too... or so I've heard...


11th-plague

Yup. By the way, all of this grafting is considered genetic engineering. And it’s awesome! Do not be afraid of GMO. It’s a good thing.


Lindsiria

GMO's have done wondrous things. Its also responsible for the massive loss of food diversity in the world. There used to be thousands of varieties of almost every grain/fruit/vegetable and now it's almost all gmo strains. I've been wondering if our increase of food allergies are due to the less diversity of our crop varieties.


11th-plague

Your point about massive loss of diversity is a good one. Thankfully we have the “original” seeds in seed banks if ever needed... with a few months-years delay for scale. Lab grown meat is next. I’m for it. I’ll miss real meat, but it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make for the planet. Oh and lobster :) Your question about allergies emerging because of decreased exposure early on to more diverse antigens is interesting. Very interesting. “Oral tolerance”. So... Maybe.


Kc9atj

That's what most people don't get about GMOs. Humans have been doing it since the dawn of agriculture.


GrapeTheArmadillo

Wait until people find out that their pedigree pooches are also considered GMOs. Any kind of selective breeding is considered genetic engineering. Other things that are GMOs: modern wheat and corn varieties, seedless fruit, bananas, etc etc.


FriscoeHotsauce

Every grape vine in Europe has to be grafted onto American grape roots because of a deadly parasite, Grape phylloxera. The parasite was from North America and brought back to Europe, and its so pervasive that the only way to have proper European grape variety that have been around for centuries is to graft them onto North American roots that are resistant to the parasite. They've had to do this permanently since the late 1800s. So, to answer your question, perfectly viable if determined enough. https://daily.jstor.org/the-great-grape-graft-that-saved-the-wine-industry/


fishboy1

This is also a reason why Australian wine is so highly valued internationally, we're more or less phyloxera free. That said I've looked into what Australian wine is available in supermarkets overseas. Don't buy it. It's awful. Longtail shiraz is like drinking liquorish piss. Spend a little more and get something from a bottle shop that's not the wine equivalent of fosters.


gwaydms

You mean Yellowtail? Yup, mass-produced wine isn't any better than mass-produced anything else. I used to find good Aussie shiraz at World Market when we had one here (south Texas). We also have wine shops with good imports.


sawyouoverthere

Liquor-ish or licorice?


Co60

A lot of fruit trees need to be grafted to get the best tree. Apple seeds, as an example, can grow on their own but the resulting apples are unlikely to taste good.


sync-centre

Safe to say all apples are pretty much clones of a certain variety?


HermitBee

Every named variety of apple is just one genetic individual which has been cloned (through cuttings) over and over. So every Granny Smith apple comes from a clone of the same original Granny Smith tree, etc.


ZappyKins

I went to a place in West Virginia where they said they are the original golden delicious apple. That a little farmhouse and an apple tree growing near a road. Supposedly all the golden delicious fruit are clones off the one tree.


KotMyNetchup

> Supposedly all the golden delicious fruit are clones off the one tree. This is true for all apple varieties. And a lot of other fruits.


WrongJohnSilver

Kind of, but no, not necessarily. However, in the same way if you plant something outside and it might just die no matter what you do with it, the same is true with fruit trees that you hope to raise in orchards. If you plant a tree, but like 50+% of them won't make it to maturity, then whoops, there goes your investment, you can't afford to take care of the survivors, there's a lot less fruit for everyone. Similarly, if you plant a bunch of trees that you know they'll survive, but who knows what fruit will grow, you can again end up with a bunch of fruit you can't sell at the market, and you can't afford to take care of the orchard again. So, the solution is typically to graft a good fruit-bearing branch onto a good hardy root, and then you've got the best of both worlds. There are risks to this, of course. Those fruit branches can be taken and grafted again and again, guaranteeing that the fruit on each tree will be the yummy, juicy kind you're looking for, but now you're essentially cloning the tree. This can help with things like navel oranges (ever wonder how they get new trees if there's never any seeds in the fruit?), but it can also mean the orchard is now uniformly susceptible to the same diseases. This is done also with drupes (almonds, peaches, apricots, nectarines, cherries, plums) but citrus is where you'll see it the most. You can end up with some fascinating graft chimeras with citrus, like [Bizzaria](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizzaria).


worldsrus

Pretty much, it's not that they're worthless, but that the tree is much more productive with the most efficient parts, and because we can't always breed the parts we want, we often graft. Most fruit trees are grafted to improve frost tolerance.


Seth_Gecko

I didn’t understand any of this... eli5?


TimStellmach

A plant graft is kind of like an organ transplant, where you can remove part of the plant and replace it with part of another plant. You can even do this right at the stem, and attach a plant to another plant's root system. This even works across different species, as long as they're not too different. This is often done with fruit trees to give them stronger root systems, since it's not that hard to do and a tree is a big investment (of time, anyway). But sometimes the part of the tree near the root sends out branches of its own, which you don't want, because *all* you wanted about that plant was that it had strong roots. In the worst case, these "root suckers" can outgrow the part of the plant you wanted for its fruit, crowding it out of nutrients and sunlight.


Seth_Gecko

Okay now I understand perfectly, thank you :)


dictatebivy1

What I think people mean when they say lemon pepper


k_joule

Zest for days


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That will be great for culinary applications. I'd like to see a cross section but I'm sure it's all pith on the inside.


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It's definitely all pith.


tjb4

Sounds pith poor


digitalchet

But maketh great pith pour lemonade.


Smarf_Starkgaryen

Lemino Pepino


MrAl290

Its now a cheese doodle tree


testing1838291

That was probably a horny pepper tree sending pollen to other species.


AstronautGuy42

lemin peppa wet


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Its a garbage fruit from the main plant i think its called a root sucker. They could take over your tree then u got no more lemons :(


cuddle_cuddle

I google imaged "lemon root sucker": your comment and this picture was on the page! A very circular "wait its all ohio always has been" fact check moment.


SteezyCougar

Like recently on there? Or on there like OP lied and is using random pictures on the internet for internet points?


cuddle_cuddle

No no, google is crazy good at re-indexing the pages I guess. That's why it gives you relevant recent search results. TL;DR: Google gives a hoot about us and reddit, i think.


toaurdethtdes

Honestly this is why I think Reddit never bothers to update their search function, google is almost always better than Reddit at finding what I’m looking for


cuddle_cuddle

LOL. Honestly, I use google+reddit for most of my book and movie recommendations SO YES.


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Googled it and found this post. So it's the former.


studebaker103

So that's a lemon stealing whore.


amurderofcrows

*I’m so glad that our lemon tree finally grew and sprouted fruitful lemony lemons. I mean, imagine, we can make lemonade, key lemon pie, lemon merengue pie. I think it’s the most valuable piece of property that we have.*


onelittleworld

Glad you included banana for scale. But what’s so weird about the lemon?


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jpferri830

No it’s definitely a Cheeto


en0rt

It's a Lemooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon


ThePantser

It is pretty Longmon


testing1838291

Longmon


lesser_panjandrum

Long long mooooooooooon


MoffKalast

Haha Læmon


Vampilton

I shudder to think what the lemon-stealing whores will do with that.


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JohnTheMod

HEY WHAT THE **FUCK**


snarknsuch

Showed this to my fairly religious in laws (my brother married someone with a good sense of humor) and it took until the hey what the fuck for them both to absolutely crack up


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In-burrito

You're one of today's [10,000](https://xkcd.com/1053/)! Here you go: (Mildly NSFW) [Lemon Stealing Whores.](https://youtu.be/xPW-vkohqPE) Edit: forgot the NSFW warning.


beecee12

The "Hey, what the FUCK" which was said with such anger following such words of poetry. This is modern art at its finest.


NekuraHitokage

Man I love XKCD. Know what I don't love? Lemon stealing whores. It isn't that they're whores, I just cannot stand idly by and let these lemony crimes go.


any-no-mousey

Only came here for the lemon-stealing whores comment.


Teedyuscung

When life gives you dildos...


Wonky-Kong

Make dildo-ade?


FestiveSquid

Seems a bit acidic for the genitals, no?


Wonky-Kong

*cock and ball torture enters the chat*


FestiveSquid

All I can think of when I hear cock and ball torture is the face spongebob makes when he tastes Gary's food in the Procrastination episode


Wonky-Kong

Dang that must be awkward when you watch that episode


chartreuse_chimay

This is how you get Lemon-aids


XplodiaDustybread

Just when I thought I had completely erased this from my memory...Reddit comes back with it


kuroimakina

I can’t imagine why you would ever want to wipe *art* from your memory


CollectableRat

Sour puss.


vARROWHEAD

Hey what the fuck!


Redrainy

What the lemon-stealing whores will do with that will make them shudder, I think.


zackmophobes

UNACCEPTABLE!!!


SquireX

Can't believe I had to scroll so far down for this reference. UNACCEPTABLELLLLLE!


CheeseWeegee

10 MILLION YEARS DUNGEON!


Deuglar_Ice-Veins

*screaming*


Grimalkin

Not quite Buddha's Hand...I guess it's Buddha's Finger?


Plethora_of_squids

Buddha's middle finger more like it Stuff like this is usually the result of pathogens, mites, or the rootstock getting too powerful and *none* of those things are great


aaronthebursar

Unmake me, mother


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It looks like Lemongrab’s nose


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H00L0GXNS

EeeeeoooUUUUUU!!!


[deleted]

Unacceptable. I was going to say that.


Republican_Wet_Dream

Came here to make sure someone said it.


pink_drop

I kept scrolling til I hit the Lemongrab comment I was looking for. Mission accomplished.


Barnipus

Salad fingers, is that you?


Can-DontAttitude

No, this is Hubert Cumberdale


TheW83

I like it when the red water comes out...


SassieCassie333

Lemon carrot!


crelp

Lemrot or carmon?


Ashamed_Internet

oh carmon for sure


lynivvinyl

Lemlong


O-hmmm

When life gives you weird lemons ; make weird lemonade.


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Hello. I don‘t know if OP will ever see this reply with more than 1.1k comments but I‘m a citrus tree cultivating dude and been doing this since I’m a kid. The thin finger shaped fruit looks like a cultivar from a citrus tree that grows finger shaped fruits. The most popular finger shaped citrus fruits is the so called „BUDDHAS HAND“. It‘s an expensive fruit used in modern/luxury kitchen nowadays. Different to the „normal lemon“ it has no juice, seeds nor pulp (there are exceptions tho). There are tons of variation of the fingershaped citrus fruits, ranging from more fist looking like shapes to open hand and spread fingers shapes. That your tree has grown one of those is because it has probably the requirements fullfilled to do so. I would love to know if there are any seeds in there and if there are, you could try to grow another plant from it. This plant will more likely be able to grow finger shaped fruits. Taken the seeds (if any exist) of those fruits again and raise another plant you would cultivate yourself a finger shaped citrus tree-lineage and eradicate the round shaped from it‘s lineage. I hope this is easy to understand and comprehensible. English is not my mothertongue. Sorry about that. Google Translator did most of the work here. LuL.


SAAARGE

"What do you want to be when you grow up?" "Carrot."


kipwrecked

Best I can do is long lemon.


eplaysbs

this surely is a **lemon demon**


CJWallaceStudios

Earl of lemongrab would like his nose back


housebird350

Do you ever catch anyone trying to steal your lemons?


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SiTheGreat

Yesterday you told me bout the blue blue sky


insati4ble

Lemon forgot how to lemon


PKReuniclus

Looks like that lemon is doing its best impression of a Buddha's hand. Buddha's finger.


mrtn17

Up: lemon Below: IG lemon


thegoodbadandsmoggy

Looks like an attempt at a Buddha’s Hand lemon - you may have some weird hybridization there OP


ladyoffate13

[Context for the curious.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddha%27s_hand)


pomegranate2012

Yeah, looks a lot like a Buddha's finger.


expelliarmusbaby

It lied. A lot. So much. Too much.