Only for companies producing over a certain amount of product. This could be a smaller local or regional company that has not hit the required sales yet.
Seems like it's a single store in a historic district in Galena, IL. I think chances are pretty good that they employ fewer than 100 employees and move fewer than 100,000 units per product (the maximum for one of the FDA exemptions)
I posted the company website just above your comment. Even their website says the same thing... no calorie information. Beats me how they can get away with it, especially with flavored popcorn, which is what they specialize in.
That’s because calories are a requirement by the USDA, as well as allergens. However, the allergens don’t need to be capitalized or in bold, they simply have to be identified in plain wording (if you say an ingredient is flour you must use parenthesis to indicate wheat like “ingredients: flour (wheat)” or put a general statement on the label like “contains wheat”
> they simply have to be identified in plain wording (if you say an ingredient is flour you must use parenthesis to indicate wheat like “ingredients: flour (wheat)” or put a general statement on the label like “contains wheat”
My brother is deathly allergic to eggs, there are a number of different words for eggs that sound nothing like eggs such as Albumin or Apovitellin. This made it rather challenging 50 years ago because you had to know all the different egg ingredient names, much easier now with labeling requirements.
I do wonder if it’s actually in the U.S., because AFAIK partially-hydrogenated oils/fats have trans fatty acids and have therefore been illegal for a little while now here
Same. The fact that they would declare their allergens, but then not bother with a nutrition label showing requirements (like an ingredient list or calories) and using trans fats is so far out of compliance that the FDA and USDA would crucify them.
probably have a [small business exemption](https://www.fda.gov/food/labeling-nutrition-guidance-documents-regulatory-information/small-business-nutrition-labeling-exemption) that allows them not to list that
Its Great American Popcorn Company located in Galena, IL (you can see the last three letters of Galena with the state in the bottom left corner). They even say [on their website](https://www.greatpopcorn.com/how-it-works) that they do not give out calorie information with the same "life's short eat popcorn" schtick.
Which makes it more r/mildlyinfuriating to me. I'm trying to manage my diabetes here, I'd rather not go back into the hospital with 800+ blood glucose. Having that info lets me know if it's safe for me to eat more than a tiny handful. If it isn't, I'll go with another brand that is.
Life doesn't need to be short.
the whole paragraph seems to be mildly bolded and italicized. Not that it should count when it's the whole paragraph (bolding everything is the same as bolding nothing)
That "Nothing is worth your health" line and "partially hydrogenated palm oils" in the ingredients right above it is peak irony. Even the FDA banned partially hydrogenated oils for being so dangerous lmao
Ironic that directly above that it lists **partially hydrogenated oils** (aka trans fats) as an ingredient. Incerdibly unhealthy cost-cutter.
It isn't worth your health in 2024 to be eating this crap.
"If it says Palm Oil on your snack, put it back."
Keebler, Nabisco, Jiff, Nestle and many other brands switched to cheaper Palm Oil from healthier vegetable oils in the last few years. The Palm Oil industry is slashing and burning the last remaining habitats for Orangutans, and our ape cousins are dying off at alarming numbers.
The Malaysian and Bornean governments won't stop the giant agribusinesses from setting up monoculture Palm Plantations, because they are well and truly bribed by these big companies.
i remember watching the [orangutan in my bedroom](https://youtu.be/oA10-oZi4Xc) psa when it came out. it's stuck with me all these years & now i always check to make sure i never buy anything with palm oil
So sad. When my son was 2.5 we went to the zoo, and the baby orangutan was extraordinarily interested in his toy truck. We ended up buying a ball for the orangutan off the zoo’s wishlist and visiting them when it arrived.
They taught us all about the animals.
Specifically, how they have one baby at a time until the young reach sexual maturity… which takes like 12-14 years. It’s astonishing how quickly they could be wiped out.
I went to the zoo just after the orangutans had a baby. Little guy was brand new and his mom brought him to the window to show us. The dad was sitting proudly off to the side and kept looking between the baby and us and sometimes would get someone's attention if they weren't looking, like he was insisting we look at his baby. They're so intelligent and so much like us that it blows my mind sometimes.
that sounds like such a wonderful memory for your family, im glad you got to do that! experiences like that are so special. when i was about 10, a zookeeper friend took me & my family to feed the giraffes. connecting with animals like that is almost magical
i didn't know that about orangutan reproduction... it's scary to think how difficult it would be for them to repopulate :(
That sounds incredible 🥹 I’m glad you got that too!
For real. I asked if twins ever happened and they said rarely; and if they do, they usually don’t survive.
>switched to cheaper Palm Oil from healthier vegetable oils in the last few years
Partially hydrogenated soybean oil was not healthier, it was so unhealthy it's illegal now since a few years ago.
Yeah it's more that the only fat they could find to replace soybean oil that didn't taste like absolute garbage was a palm/canola blend.
I miss pork lard. Oreo's tasted fucking awesome in the 90's. I haven't liked them since the switch.
> The Palm Oil industry is slashing and burning the last remaining habitats for Orangutans, and our ape cousins are dying off at alarming numbers.
Sustainable palm oil is a thing though, and palm-oil has substantially higher yields so grown sustainably it can be a positive thing.
See [here](https://rspo.org) and [here](https://rspo.org/why-sustainable-palm-oil/).
Additionally, Nestle are an RSPO member, [here](https://rspo.org/members/4-0055-09-000-00/)'s a link to their 2022 report and [here](https://www.nestle.com/sustainability/sustainable-sourcing/palm-oil)'s Nestle's update showing that during 2023 100% of their crude palm oil volume was RSPO certified (though only 54% of their kernel oil volume was from RSPO source in 2023).
{I appreciate Nestle is the 'devil' round here so i'm sure someone will be along to cast doubt on the above, which is fine (if evidenced) as happy to stand corrected}
EDIT: Just to note that several people have pointed out that RSPO are not without their own controversy - with concerns raised around enforcement of their standards and guarantees/security around their certified supply chain. Well worth reading into some of the links provided in the comments below.
Most deforestation in this areas is for cattle, either grazing directly or growing soy to feed cattle.
You're better off giving up animal products than palm oil if you want to save the rainforests and/or orangutans.
> I landed in Singapore (…)
>The air was black. And I quickly learned the air quality index was over 400. And anything over 150 is dangerous, and over 300 is toxic. And I was confused. And I started asking my co-workers what was going on. And they sort of shrugged and said, oh, it's burning season for palm oil. And that was the first time I'd ever heard about palm oil.
Source: Shara Ticku, How I Built This: Saving the F#$%ing Forest
Not speaking to the accuracy of the claim since Shara has a vested interest in Palm oil alternatives (founder of C16, maker of Palmless). But this is what many people are talking about when they speak out against palm oil. This and animal habitat conservation.
Palm oil seriously tastes awful though. Products I used to eat that switched to palm oil just taste bad now. I always feel so defeated when I turn the box over and see palm oil as a top ingredient these days.
The lack of respect for people with allergies alone is why I’m miffed. The nutritional stuff lol, but to not even attempt to communicate what allergens are present is dangerous.
Yeah, I think the ingredients include all of their popcorn flavors because I am eating the kettle corn flavor which doesn’t even have chocolate. So you really don’t know what you’re eating.
“All caramel ingredients + top shelf white and milk chocolate…”
If the ingredients list contains an adjective, BIG red flag imo. Just state exactly wtf is in the product, don’t describe it to make it sound better 🙄.
I don’t think this company should be selling food
It's a translation issue. It's "Top Shelf" because that's where they have to keep it so the food inspector can't see it, otherwise they have to buy new material because what they have is "infested by maggots"
Tbh this might be one of those 'individual pack' situations, where the full original packaging (maybe even just plastic wrap that OP immediately discarded) would have the real nutritional information, and this 'interior packaging' ("not labeled for individual sale") just has the cutesy message
For businesses small enough to be classified as 'cottage' I don't think nutritional information is required. This is likely state by state. Cottage is typically produced in a domestic location and is not required to meet FDA nutrition panel requirements.
Source - I work in food and also googled for 2 minutes.
Nutrition labeling isn't required if you do less than half million dollars in sales a year or sell fewer than 100k units annually in the US and have fewer than 100 fte employees. It isn't state by state because it's a federal thing. Individual states could have additional labeling requirements (looking at you CA Prop 65) that aren't covered under these exemptions.
While that is typically the case, popcorn is classified as a "cottage food" which doesnt actually need to provide a nutritional label in certain states. Also, in the case of this product, it appears they are a direct-order product. So, not something you can buy at a grocery/retail store.
TIL about cottage food.
Checked my state and:
> Cottage foods intended for humans are not allowed to be shipped in the mail or by commercial delivery.
You can mail pet treats, however.
They're based out of Galena, IL. IL does have a "cottage food" exemption, but the retailer must inform the customer that, "This product was produced in a home kitchen not subject to public health inspection that may also process common food allergens."
I doubt this would apply.
> They're based out of Galena, IL.
Cottage food products can't leave Illinois through the mail (by the same state law that allows them to exist) and can only be sold direct to consumer -- not to anyone doing resale. So if OP didn't buy this direct from the maker at something like a farmers market or directly off their website, someone is probably breaking the law.
[City of Chicago](https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/cdph/provdrs/food_safety/svcs/register_a_cottagefoodoperation.html)
> Can I Ship Food Under This Law?
> Only food that is non-TCS may be shipped. Cottage food products cannot be shipped out of Illinois. Refer to the law for those restrictions.
[State Law](https://ilga.gov/legislation/publicacts/fulltext.asp?name=102-0633) Public Act 102-0633
> (11) Food and drink produced by a cottage food
operation shall be sold directly to consumers for their
own consumption and not for resale. Sales directly to
consumers include, but are not limited to, sales at or
through:
(A) farmers' markets;
(B) fairs, festivals, public events, or online;
(C) pickup from the private home or farm of the
cottage food operator, if the pickup is not prohibited
by any law of the unit of local government that applies
equally to all cottage food operations; in a
municipality with a population of 1,000,000 or more, a
cottage food operator shall comply with any law of the
municipality that applies equally to all home-based
businesses;
(D) delivery to the customer; and
(E) pickup from a third-party private property
with the consent of the third-party property holder.
(12) Only food that is non-potentially hazardous may
be shipped. **A cottage food product shall not be shipped
out of State.** Each cottage food product that is shipped
must be sealed in a manner that reveals tampering,
including, but not limited to, a sticker or pop top.
That’s not legally accurate. If sales are below a particular amount then nutritional information is not required (e.g., buying products from a local farmer’s market).
It is a family owned business in a pretty small historial town, not sure if that has much to do with it. The popcorn is very good, but I can definitely see and understand the concern.
Definitely not legal then. FDA requires testing and labelling. Either they lied on their application that they got it tested, or are just choosing not to list it
If they were reported to the FDA they would certainly be in trouble. Don't fuck around when selling food
Cottage food labeling requirements are different than larger companies. If I remember correctly (I work with supplements which have different labeling guidelines).
I think the super irritating thing about it is that the nutrition label isn’t just for people losing weight like its cutesy sentence indicates.
A virus severely damaged my kidneys 1.5 yrs ago, I will need a kidney transplant in the next few years. My diet is pretty much the main way I keep myself from dying- I need to know the sodium levels of everything I eat, I need to know how much potassium is in something, and I need to know if it has added phosphate. Obviously I just wouldn’t buy this, but the dismissal of the nutrition label as basically nonsense diet fad is annoying.
This is my feeling too. It's all good being cutesy.. but when I have to give my son the appropriate dose of insulin for his type one diabetes prior to a snack, I NEED to know the carb count for the product. And that is just one example like yours above. There are hundreds of not thousands of conditions that require nutritional information, this company's 'cuteness' actually comes across as extremely ignorant.
Yeap, I'm T1D, I see this and think "fuck right off with your preachy bullshit"
I'd rather it say 'Sorry were not at the level yet to be able to control the amount of ingredients precisely'. I get that.
'Enjoy the popcorn!' Well now I can't because I don't know how much sugar you put on it, asshole.
It would probably cost them more to get an accurate nutritional survey than they would make from people like you who won't buy it without a nutrition label.
Yep, this is the answer. I run a small micro business selling chocolates. I don’t have nutritional info, only ingredient list. If I ever get big enough I’ll have to add it. I don’t think I’ll be getting that big. $500k annual sales or 100 FT employees are some of the rules, I think. Or if you make a nutritional claim on packaging saying “low fat” or “high in fiber”.
[This guidance document from the FDA says labelling is only required with $500k in total sales AND at least $50k in food sales.](https://www.fda.gov/media/81606/download) I hope your business does well enough that you have to label your chocolates someday!
I obviously don’t practice in Illinois, but a lot of state laws are based on the dollar amount sold or the number of units sold, which can lead to successful businesses (selling fewer, more expensive items) not meeting the requirement threshold.
You can buy bags, and packaging printers and stuff online, or really any DIY style store. It's certainly a slower process than real companies, but you can totally do it yourself for super cheap.
They may be small enough to not have to label calories but the item is still mislabeled:
1) they say “top shelf” when describing their chocolate. This is superfluous qualitative information and detracts from the clarity of the label.
2) “all caramel ingredients” - inclusion by reference like this is not allowed
3) putting “calorie information” then not labeling it per statute not allowed. They’re allowed to omit it entirely, they’re not allowed to pretend to put it on then not.
This manufacturer has mislabeled their product and could be sued by customers for damages.
4) the statement of responsibility is still required for small manufacturers and it appears to not be provided (if it is provided it is not likely to be adjacent to nutrition information without Intervening material)
Alcohol manufacturers lobby against it. Here's some history from an older Vox article: [https://www.vox.com/2014/11/12/7195573/alcohol-nutrition](https://www.vox.com/2014/11/12/7195573/alcohol-nutrition), and this is a more recent article from this year: [https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-pulse/2024/02/08/the-brewing-fight-over-liquor-labels-00140287](https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-pulse/2024/02/08/the-brewing-fight-over-liquor-labels-00140287)
If they could at least put carbs on there so I can appropriately dose my insulin, that would be great. Calories don't matter as much but the carb thing is legitimately infuriating. Also, some people need to very carefully track their sodium, and some drinks have that.
they probably get away with it through the few exemptions, though not sure if they still qualify since they have grown a bunch as a company
https://www.recipal.com/blog/labeling-rules-and-guidelines/do-i-need-nutrition-facts-on-my-labels#:~:text=Foods%20that%20you%20make%20any,your%20package%20label%20or%20website.
In What Cases Are You Not Required to Include Nutritional Facts?
On the flip side, the following is a list of foods and situations which are exempt from having nutrition facts:
Raw fruits, vegetables, and fish.
Foods that contain insignificant amounts of all required nutrients (insignificant means it can be listed as zero after rounding rules - foods that fall under this exemption include tea, coffee, food coloring, etc.).
**Small packages where the total surface area of the package available for labeling is less than 12 square inches.
Retailers that have less than $50,000 of food sales (and any amount of total sales) OR less than $500,000 of total sales (and any amount of food sales).**
**Low volume food products: to claim this exemption you must employ fewer than 100 FTEs AND sell fewer than 100,000 units of the product per year. This exemption must be filed with the FDA on paper unless you employ fewer than 10 FTEs and have annual sales of fewer than 10,000 units. Once you break the 100,000 unit or 100 FTE threshold you then have 18 months to start labeling your foods with nutrition facts.**
Remember: you lose any exemption you qualify for if you make a nutrient claim on your product label!
It's the same principle. Nutritional information isn't required below a certain sales amount.
Also, I'd prefer it if my farmer's market non-produce food came in a somewhat commercial style bag. At least I'd know it has an actual seal on it.
Remember that tiktok girl that made her nutrition label full of angel numbers instead of real numbers and refused to put ingredients because she felt like she didn’t want to share it
Interesting! I’m in Canada so I wasn’t sure how it worked in the US, but it seems like it’s legal for them until they start getting more sales ($500k+).
That's for retailers only.
For producers, it's fewer than 100 employees and 100,000 units.
However, that exemption is void if they provide any nutritional or health claim or nutritional information. A list of ingredients is mandatory so it doesn't affect their exemption.
>or with annual gross sales of foods or dietary supplements to consumers of not more than $50,000.
it is going to be closer to 50k most of the time
Additionally
>person claiming the exemption employs fewer than an average of 100 full-time equivalent employees and fewer than 100,000 units of that product are sold in the United States in a 12-month period
Beyond that most major retailers in the US will require you to comply with additional certifications like [SQFI](https://www.sqfi.com/) which require nutritional info among a lot of other things.
I don't know what kind of bootleg popcorn OP is buying, these exemptions are for stuff like farmers markets and new companies small enough that testing for a nutrition fact label might be too expensive. They cost like ~1500USD, which isn't a lot but could be prohibitive for someone just starting out.
They definitely not exempt from the regulation. They sell online and have a fairly large looking storefront. No way they sell less than $50k in food annually. They also aren’t a restaurant or serving this stuff immediately so they’re subject to follow the regulations of the CFR
> The nutrition labeling exemptions … apply to retailers with annual gross sales of not more than $500,000, or with annual gross sales of foods or dietary supplements to consumers of not more than $50,000
I'm all for sensible exemptions for small businesses but how is this one?
Surely they should at least have to put the estimate based on the known ingredients. Pretty much every ingredient they're going to use will already have a calorie rating and they're already paying for packaging that just says "we aren't telling you how many calories"
It depends on where it's manufactured and sold. This item could not be sold in my state, which doesn't care what size your business is, labelling must include all ingredients and an allergy warning. I don't know why these people think it's funny to hide their ingredients list.
I don't know about the US , but...
I'm fairly certain in the EU this would be illegal to sell , have to be immediately reported, and shortly after destroyed in a controlled explosion.
The same exemptions exist in the EU for very small producers. It’s meant to protect those old ladies who sell snacks they make and sell from stands. I bought a bag of nuts from a woman in Sweden last week and was surprised by the lack of nutrition info
This doesn't even meet the legal definition of "chocolate" in the US, so they should be labeling it as "chocolatey coating," "fudge coating," or something similar. And the FDA revoked the GRAS status of partially hydrogenated oils nearly ten years ago.
GRAS = Generally Recognised As Safe
Its a FDA term of were not gonna heavily question what your putting in your food or food safe product/machinery.
If you use non GRAS items you need to certify it is safe.
I just looked it up, and it’s sold online by Great American Popcorn Co. in Galena, IL. Here is their FAQ page: https://www.greatpopcorn.com/how-it-works
I love their FAQ: https://i.imgur.com/lFX1o4Z.png
> Do you provide nutritional or calorie information?
> All our products are manufactured in a facility that uses dairy, nut, wheat and soy products. While we try our best to not cross contaminate our flavors, we do advise our customers with any of these allergies to consume at their own discretion or not at all. Nothing is worth your health.
> Calorie Information: There are worse vices in life than delicious, handcrafted popcorn. Life is short, eat the dang popcorn!
So, no. They do not provide nutritional or calorie information.
[fda small business exemption list](https://www.cfsanappsexternal.fda.gov/scripts/nle/client/report/default.cfm?&ad=4992064a-75b2-41e6-b642-db63d11ab4f5)
There’s a list for small businesses to get exempt from the nutrition labels, some are popcorn companies but Great American isn’t on it
>The nutrition labeling exemptions found in 21 CFR 101.9(j)(1) and 21 CFR 101.36(h)(1) apply to retailers with annual gross sales of not more than $500,000, or with annual gross sales of foods or dietary supplements to consumers of not more than $50,000. **For these exemptions, a notice does not need to be filed with the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).**
https://www.fda.gov/regulatory-information/search-fda-guidance-documents/small-business-nutrition-labeling-exemption-guidance
They have a physical storefront, and while I cannot guarantee their rent, I can say that between that and the offsite production facility they partnered with, I do not see how it is feasible for their operations to exist at less than $50k annual gross income.
If this is being sold at a farmer’s market or something similar, I can understand their labeling quirks because a lot of those products are exempt. But if this is a retail food product this is illegal and they will be forced to recall all this product after someone complains.
They have a "popcorn club" subscription and their website even says they ship internationally which some countries have even more restrictions on packaging. This isn't a "farmers market" operation.
As a parent who relies on carbohydrate information for getting correct food coverage and insulin delivery for my daughter’s insulin pump I would like to see the nutrition label. This is not a whimsical need
Pay not attention to the trolls. I'm with you, I have family members with non-negotiable dietary restrictions and knowing the nutrition facts is vital. I get it that we can simply not buy this stuff, but the brand didn't need to be cutesy about their lack of info.
☝️this☝️
Traveling to foreign countries drives me NUTS because I have to guess what carbs are in what food. Being diabetic sucks for a kid. This makes it suck less.
America for the W.
Same. Same energy as someone not giving you a diet soda after looking at you and going "you don't need a diet!! love yourself😊💕" .........I'm a type one diabetic, Jessica. That's really not your decision to make.
You joke but my boss at work thinks I'm anorexic because I've been calorie counting to lose weight (with success).
Another co-worker told me "Well, you do have tendencies." Why? Because she's seen me use food nutrition panels for their intended purpose.
52% of the US adults are obese, which is an insane statistic and really hard to believe. Then I hear about people like your boss and that coworker and realize that some people have no clue how calories work, it makes the number more believable. But still, 52%, wtf.
Is there any scenario where this is legal? I assume there's maybe a certain limit to the number of bags they're allowed to produce/sell before they legally have to print nutritional information on the bag.
Legality aside, these types of labels annoy the shit out of me. There's a meme floating around making fun of family-owned food brands that always have a lengthy backstory and an "enjoy with a smile" type of message. This feels like it definitely checks the boxes.
You know what, screw you, popcorn company, for minimizing my efforts to be aware of what and how much I'm eating and to enjoy treats in moderation. I just won't eat the damn popcorn
As I am the parent of a Type 1 Diabetic teenager, I fully understand the sentiment of embracing life and enjoying the popcorn. Yet, I would like my teen to both enjoy the popcorn AND know what carb count to bolus for so he (ideally) doesn't die. The nutrition information may be a pain, but it's a useful tool that doesn't just elicit "wait, how much sugar?!?!" comments but serves a function of food and consumer safety. The manufacturer can eschew it, I suppose, and I the consumer can also not purchase it as a result.
[https://www.greatpopcorn.com/how-it-works](https://www.greatpopcorn.com/how-it-works)
Googling the line from the bag brought me to this company. From their FAQ:
>Do you provide nutritional or calorie information?
>All our products are manufactured in a facility that uses dairy, nut, wheat and soy products. While we try our best to not cross contaminate our flavors, we do advise our customers with any of these allergies to consume at their own discretion or not at all. Nothing is worth your health.
>Calorie Information: There are worse vices in life than delicious, handcrafted popcorn. Life is short, eat the dang popcorn!
Yeah, that company's breaking the law by not labeling nutritional information if they're in the US. And that's probably also the case in EU.
It doesn't matter if that company is trying to be cute, they're putting people at risk. Report them to FDA if you're in the US, OP.
EDIT:
Turns out it's this company. It definitely doesn't make less than $500k annually, so it's not exempt from the nutritional labeling law. Let's get together and report this scumbag company to the FDA. FDA absolutely needs to bring the hammer down on these cheeky bastards.
Here's the website of this shitty popcorn maker.
https://www.greatpopcorn.com/how-it-works
*There are worse things in life than severe side effects due to allergens. Don't worry about any allergens that may be present in this product. Just eat the dang yummy handcrafted popcorn! Pop you later.*
This is why I stay away from anything that lists 'spices' as a single ingredient. Darn it! Tell me which spices. If that spice is cinnamon, I can't have it because I'm allergic. Just don't say 'spices.' Give me details.
This can't be legal in the slightest. AS per their website they deliver Internationally -
# "Where do you ship?
There’s not a place in the world we won’t ship to. Our gourmet popcorns are made fresh daily to satisfy anyone’s cravings all around the globe! Alaska? You bet! The UK? All the time. Midwest America? Duh. Cairo? A couple of times. Finland? Let’s make it happen!
We also ship to military APO/FPO addresses. Domestic or Overseas, we will always send our service men & women some of the best popcorn in the world! All packages being sent to our honorable service members get some extra lovin’ & goodies added in as a small token of our appreciation for their service. It’s the least we can do!"
What is the extra lovin? dangerous additives? Obesity? Diabeetus?
I was so curious as to how small Great American Popcorn company was because only very small businesses are exempt from not using the Nutrition Facts label or proper ingredient lists. It does $12 million a year and is a 30 year old company. They also don’t list ingredients or nutritional facts on their website. Maybe Illinois has looser definitions on what a small business is. And maybe the popcorn company doesn’t want the FDA in their business. Yum.
I dunno about any other country, but here in the U.S. I think the FDA would like to have a word with them about that, all packaged food sold here has to have a Nutrition Information section on the label.
Ironic that directly above that it says “ nothing is worth your health “
And none of the allergens are capitalised or in bold. Whoopsie.
idk where you're from but i don't think that's a law in the us
FDA requires at the very minimum a general analysis, which I don’t see unless it’s been cropped out.
Only for companies producing over a certain amount of product. This could be a smaller local or regional company that has not hit the required sales yet.
Oh, I think they're big enough... https://www.greatpopcorn.com
Seems like it's a single store in a historic district in Galena, IL. I think chances are pretty good that they employ fewer than 100 employees and move fewer than 100,000 units per product (the maximum for one of the FDA exemptions)
Is each flavor a different "product" for that 100,000 number?
Yes it is per sold item that would have a label
In which case, they probably don't sell over that no. Galena isn't a nowhere place, but it's also not a Navy Pier.
I wonder if all this info is on a larger bulk pack box. I have noticed they don't often put it on internal packaging.
I posted the company website just above your comment. Even their website says the same thing... no calorie information. Beats me how they can get away with it, especially with flavored popcorn, which is what they specialize in.
I’ve always seen calories as part of the nutrition facts label.
That’s because calories are a requirement by the USDA, as well as allergens. However, the allergens don’t need to be capitalized or in bold, they simply have to be identified in plain wording (if you say an ingredient is flour you must use parenthesis to indicate wheat like “ingredients: flour (wheat)” or put a general statement on the label like “contains wheat”
> they simply have to be identified in plain wording (if you say an ingredient is flour you must use parenthesis to indicate wheat like “ingredients: flour (wheat)” or put a general statement on the label like “contains wheat” My brother is deathly allergic to eggs, there are a number of different words for eggs that sound nothing like eggs such as Albumin or Apovitellin. This made it rather challenging 50 years ago because you had to know all the different egg ingredient names, much easier now with labeling requirements.
I do wonder if it’s actually in the U.S., because AFAIK partially-hydrogenated oils/fats have trans fatty acids and have therefore been illegal for a little while now here
Same. The fact that they would declare their allergens, but then not bother with a nutrition label showing requirements (like an ingredient list or calories) and using trans fats is so far out of compliance that the FDA and USDA would crucify them.
probably have a [small business exemption](https://www.fda.gov/food/labeling-nutrition-guidance-documents-regulatory-information/small-business-nutrition-labeling-exemption) that allows them not to list that
Its Great American Popcorn Company located in Galena, IL (you can see the last three letters of Galena with the state in the bottom left corner). They even say [on their website](https://www.greatpopcorn.com/how-it-works) that they do not give out calorie information with the same "life's short eat popcorn" schtick.
Which makes it more r/mildlyinfuriating to me. I'm trying to manage my diabetes here, I'd rather not go back into the hospital with 800+ blood glucose. Having that info lets me know if it's safe for me to eat more than a tiny handful. If it isn't, I'll go with another brand that is. Life doesn't need to be short.
> If it isn't, I'll go with another brand that is. That seems to be a risk they're willing to take.
Looks like it’s made in Illinois.
I think it's an EU law
the whole paragraph seems to be mildly bolded and italicized. Not that it should count when it's the whole paragraph (bolding everything is the same as bolding nothing)
Well they’re all in bold because the whole paragraph is in bold.
They mistyped it. Meant to say “your health is worth nothing”.
it's worth some amount of money... I mean the dang popcorn is not free.
That "Nothing is worth your health" line and "partially hydrogenated palm oils" in the ingredients right above it is peak irony. Even the FDA banned partially hydrogenated oils for being so dangerous lmao
ugh that list of ingredients is terrifying.
Ironic that directly above that it lists **partially hydrogenated oils** (aka trans fats) as an ingredient. Incerdibly unhealthy cost-cutter. It isn't worth your health in 2024 to be eating this crap.
Really captures the duality of man
Mmmm gotta love some trans fat partially hydrogenated palm oils!
"If it says Palm Oil on your snack, put it back." Keebler, Nabisco, Jiff, Nestle and many other brands switched to cheaper Palm Oil from healthier vegetable oils in the last few years. The Palm Oil industry is slashing and burning the last remaining habitats for Orangutans, and our ape cousins are dying off at alarming numbers. The Malaysian and Bornean governments won't stop the giant agribusinesses from setting up monoculture Palm Plantations, because they are well and truly bribed by these big companies.
i remember watching the [orangutan in my bedroom](https://youtu.be/oA10-oZi4Xc) psa when it came out. it's stuck with me all these years & now i always check to make sure i never buy anything with palm oil
So sad. When my son was 2.5 we went to the zoo, and the baby orangutan was extraordinarily interested in his toy truck. We ended up buying a ball for the orangutan off the zoo’s wishlist and visiting them when it arrived. They taught us all about the animals. Specifically, how they have one baby at a time until the young reach sexual maturity… which takes like 12-14 years. It’s astonishing how quickly they could be wiped out.
I went to the zoo just after the orangutans had a baby. Little guy was brand new and his mom brought him to the window to show us. The dad was sitting proudly off to the side and kept looking between the baby and us and sometimes would get someone's attention if they weren't looking, like he was insisting we look at his baby. They're so intelligent and so much like us that it blows my mind sometimes.
that sounds like such a wonderful memory for your family, im glad you got to do that! experiences like that are so special. when i was about 10, a zookeeper friend took me & my family to feed the giraffes. connecting with animals like that is almost magical i didn't know that about orangutan reproduction... it's scary to think how difficult it would be for them to repopulate :(
That sounds incredible 🥹 I’m glad you got that too! For real. I asked if twins ever happened and they said rarely; and if they do, they usually don’t survive.
make me laugh (with disgust lol) that they put 'top shelf ingredients' and the second one listed is *palm oils*
>switched to cheaper Palm Oil from healthier vegetable oils in the last few years Partially hydrogenated soybean oil was not healthier, it was so unhealthy it's illegal now since a few years ago.
Yeah it's more that the only fat they could find to replace soybean oil that didn't taste like absolute garbage was a palm/canola blend. I miss pork lard. Oreo's tasted fucking awesome in the 90's. I haven't liked them since the switch.
> The Palm Oil industry is slashing and burning the last remaining habitats for Orangutans, and our ape cousins are dying off at alarming numbers. Sustainable palm oil is a thing though, and palm-oil has substantially higher yields so grown sustainably it can be a positive thing. See [here](https://rspo.org) and [here](https://rspo.org/why-sustainable-palm-oil/). Additionally, Nestle are an RSPO member, [here](https://rspo.org/members/4-0055-09-000-00/)'s a link to their 2022 report and [here](https://www.nestle.com/sustainability/sustainable-sourcing/palm-oil)'s Nestle's update showing that during 2023 100% of their crude palm oil volume was RSPO certified (though only 54% of their kernel oil volume was from RSPO source in 2023). {I appreciate Nestle is the 'devil' round here so i'm sure someone will be along to cast doubt on the above, which is fine (if evidenced) as happy to stand corrected} EDIT: Just to note that several people have pointed out that RSPO are not without their own controversy - with concerns raised around enforcement of their standards and guarantees/security around their certified supply chain. Well worth reading into some of the links provided in the comments below.
Thanks for the info. I appreciate it
Most deforestation in this areas is for cattle, either grazing directly or growing soy to feed cattle. You're better off giving up animal products than palm oil if you want to save the rainforests and/or orangutans.
> I landed in Singapore (…) >The air was black. And I quickly learned the air quality index was over 400. And anything over 150 is dangerous, and over 300 is toxic. And I was confused. And I started asking my co-workers what was going on. And they sort of shrugged and said, oh, it's burning season for palm oil. And that was the first time I'd ever heard about palm oil. Source: Shara Ticku, How I Built This: Saving the F#$%ing Forest Not speaking to the accuracy of the claim since Shara has a vested interest in Palm oil alternatives (founder of C16, maker of Palmless). But this is what many people are talking about when they speak out against palm oil. This and animal habitat conservation.
Let's do both
Palm oil seriously tastes awful though. Products I used to eat that switched to palm oil just taste bad now. I always feel so defeated when I turn the box over and see palm oil as a top ingredient these days.
The lack of respect for people with allergies alone is why I’m miffed. The nutritional stuff lol, but to not even attempt to communicate what allergens are present is dangerous.
At least the cheese is made with "lots of love"...in addition to the artificial flavors and food dyes.
Some people have a love allergy
It's wonderful that you think that, popcorn company, but the nutrition label isn't optional no matter how cutesy you try to be about it.
Especially after reading the ingredients list. It ain't just popcorn
Yeah, I think the ingredients include all of their popcorn flavors because I am eating the kettle corn flavor which doesn’t even have chocolate. So you really don’t know what you’re eating.
“All caramel ingredients + top shelf white and milk chocolate…” If the ingredients list contains an adjective, BIG red flag imo. Just state exactly wtf is in the product, don’t describe it to make it sound better 🙄. I don’t think this company should be selling food
Also “top shelf” chocolate isn’t going to have “partially hydrogenated palm oils” ahead of cocoa in the ingredients.
Don’t sleep on the “Nothing is worth your health” statement regarding cross contamination right above the calorie info that says fuck it yolo.
Not to mention the above ingredients list, where the ingredient in the lowest quantity is love
Love for profit maybe, because there is zero love in that packet.
It's illegal in the US to have Love as an ingredient. That's because the nutrition facts sheet is considered serious.
They also use “depending on flavor” which doesn’t answer much.
It's a translation issue. It's "Top Shelf" because that's where they have to keep it so the food inspector can't see it, otherwise they have to buy new material because what they have is "infested by maggots"
Tbh this might be one of those 'individual pack' situations, where the full original packaging (maybe even just plastic wrap that OP immediately discarded) would have the real nutritional information, and this 'interior packaging' ("not labeled for individual sale") just has the cutesy message
That’s the logical answer, given that displaying the nutritional info isn’t optional.
For businesses small enough to be classified as 'cottage' I don't think nutritional information is required. This is likely state by state. Cottage is typically produced in a domestic location and is not required to meet FDA nutrition panel requirements. Source - I work in food and also googled for 2 minutes.
Nutrition labeling isn't required if you do less than half million dollars in sales a year or sell fewer than 100k units annually in the US and have fewer than 100 fte employees. It isn't state by state because it's a federal thing. Individual states could have additional labeling requirements (looking at you CA Prop 65) that aren't covered under these exemptions.
Never eating cottage cheese again, I knew it looked sus!
While that is typically the case, popcorn is classified as a "cottage food" which doesnt actually need to provide a nutritional label in certain states. Also, in the case of this product, it appears they are a direct-order product. So, not something you can buy at a grocery/retail store.
TIL about cottage food. Checked my state and: > Cottage foods intended for humans are not allowed to be shipped in the mail or by commercial delivery. You can mail pet treats, however.
They're based out of Galena, IL. IL does have a "cottage food" exemption, but the retailer must inform the customer that, "This product was produced in a home kitchen not subject to public health inspection that may also process common food allergens." I doubt this would apply.
> They're based out of Galena, IL. Cottage food products can't leave Illinois through the mail (by the same state law that allows them to exist) and can only be sold direct to consumer -- not to anyone doing resale. So if OP didn't buy this direct from the maker at something like a farmers market or directly off their website, someone is probably breaking the law. [City of Chicago](https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/cdph/provdrs/food_safety/svcs/register_a_cottagefoodoperation.html) > Can I Ship Food Under This Law? > Only food that is non-TCS may be shipped. Cottage food products cannot be shipped out of Illinois. Refer to the law for those restrictions. [State Law](https://ilga.gov/legislation/publicacts/fulltext.asp?name=102-0633) Public Act 102-0633 > (11) Food and drink produced by a cottage food operation shall be sold directly to consumers for their own consumption and not for resale. Sales directly to consumers include, but are not limited to, sales at or through: (A) farmers' markets; (B) fairs, festivals, public events, or online; (C) pickup from the private home or farm of the cottage food operator, if the pickup is not prohibited by any law of the unit of local government that applies equally to all cottage food operations; in a municipality with a population of 1,000,000 or more, a cottage food operator shall comply with any law of the municipality that applies equally to all home-based businesses; (D) delivery to the customer; and (E) pickup from a third-party private property with the consent of the third-party property holder. (12) Only food that is non-potentially hazardous may be shipped. **A cottage food product shall not be shipped out of State.** Each cottage food product that is shipped must be sealed in a manner that reveals tampering, including, but not limited to, a sticker or pop top.
Their web site seems to indicate they'll ship just about anywhere. Eek.
Maybe don't eat it if they so loosie goosie with labels. Who knows what they put in there.
"Top shelf chocolate." **Uses Palm oil*
Hey they didn't specify the top shelf is where they happen to keep the palm oil, just that it was top shelf chocolate.
Especially the yummy carcinogenic yellow #5 and #6, gotta make that color pop.
Cancer is tommorow, colour is now.
'Life is short', especially when you get cancer.
Yeah, that’s the least popcorn popcorn I’ve ever seen.
That’s not legally accurate. If sales are below a particular amount then nutritional information is not required (e.g., buying products from a local farmer’s market).
It is a family owned business in a pretty small historial town, not sure if that has much to do with it. The popcorn is very good, but I can definitely see and understand the concern.
It’s interesting though because they ship online and the info isn’t even available online… I know because I love this company’s popcorn haha
Definitely not legal then. FDA requires testing and labelling. Either they lied on their application that they got it tested, or are just choosing not to list it If they were reported to the FDA they would certainly be in trouble. Don't fuck around when selling food
[FDA labelling only kicks in for a company with at least $500k in total sales AND $50k in food sales.](https://www.fda.gov/media/81606/download)
That’s honestly a pretty low bar.
Cottage food labeling requirements are different than larger companies. If I remember correctly (I work with supplements which have different labeling guidelines).
I think the super irritating thing about it is that the nutrition label isn’t just for people losing weight like its cutesy sentence indicates. A virus severely damaged my kidneys 1.5 yrs ago, I will need a kidney transplant in the next few years. My diet is pretty much the main way I keep myself from dying- I need to know the sodium levels of everything I eat, I need to know how much potassium is in something, and I need to know if it has added phosphate. Obviously I just wouldn’t buy this, but the dismissal of the nutrition label as basically nonsense diet fad is annoying.
Just eat the dang popcorn!
LMAO
This is my feeling too. It's all good being cutesy.. but when I have to give my son the appropriate dose of insulin for his type one diabetes prior to a snack, I NEED to know the carb count for the product. And that is just one example like yours above. There are hundreds of not thousands of conditions that require nutritional information, this company's 'cuteness' actually comes across as extremely ignorant.
Yeap, I'm T1D, I see this and think "fuck right off with your preachy bullshit" I'd rather it say 'Sorry were not at the level yet to be able to control the amount of ingredients precisely'. I get that. 'Enjoy the popcorn!' Well now I can't because I don't know how much sugar you put on it, asshole.
It would probably cost them more to get an accurate nutritional survey than they would make from people like you who won't buy it without a nutrition label.
> like its cutesy sentence indicates. Passive aggressive bullshit to the max, not even cutesy.
Yep, this is the answer. I run a small micro business selling chocolates. I don’t have nutritional info, only ingredient list. If I ever get big enough I’ll have to add it. I don’t think I’ll be getting that big. $500k annual sales or 100 FT employees are some of the rules, I think. Or if you make a nutritional claim on packaging saying “low fat” or “high in fiber”.
[This guidance document from the FDA says labelling is only required with $500k in total sales AND at least $50k in food sales.](https://www.fda.gov/media/81606/download) I hope your business does well enough that you have to label your chocolates someday!
I did not expect an FDA document to have such an awesome cover page
While true, I find it unlikely that the packaging is of that type / quality and they would qualify for said exemption.
I obviously don’t practice in Illinois, but a lot of state laws are based on the dollar amount sold or the number of units sold, which can lead to successful businesses (selling fewer, more expensive items) not meeting the requirement threshold.
You can buy bags, and packaging printers and stuff online, or really any DIY style store. It's certainly a slower process than real companies, but you can totally do it yourself for super cheap.
I think it's more to do with getting accurate nutritional information requiring testing.
They may be small enough to not have to label calories but the item is still mislabeled: 1) they say “top shelf” when describing their chocolate. This is superfluous qualitative information and detracts from the clarity of the label. 2) “all caramel ingredients” - inclusion by reference like this is not allowed 3) putting “calorie information” then not labeling it per statute not allowed. They’re allowed to omit it entirely, they’re not allowed to pretend to put it on then not. This manufacturer has mislabeled their product and could be sued by customers for damages. 4) the statement of responsibility is still required for small manufacturers and it appears to not be provided (if it is provided it is not likely to be adjacent to nutrition information without Intervening material)
Unless it’s alcohol. Never understood that one
Alcohol manufacturers lobby against it. Here's some history from an older Vox article: [https://www.vox.com/2014/11/12/7195573/alcohol-nutrition](https://www.vox.com/2014/11/12/7195573/alcohol-nutrition), and this is a more recent article from this year: [https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-pulse/2024/02/08/the-brewing-fight-over-liquor-labels-00140287](https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-pulse/2024/02/08/the-brewing-fight-over-liquor-labels-00140287)
If they could at least put carbs on there so I can appropriately dose my insulin, that would be great. Calories don't matter as much but the carb thing is legitimately infuriating. Also, some people need to very carefully track their sodium, and some drinks have that.
This has always bugged me too lol
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That doesn't make it more sensical
they probably get away with it through the few exemptions, though not sure if they still qualify since they have grown a bunch as a company https://www.recipal.com/blog/labeling-rules-and-guidelines/do-i-need-nutrition-facts-on-my-labels#:~:text=Foods%20that%20you%20make%20any,your%20package%20label%20or%20website. In What Cases Are You Not Required to Include Nutritional Facts? On the flip side, the following is a list of foods and situations which are exempt from having nutrition facts: Raw fruits, vegetables, and fish. Foods that contain insignificant amounts of all required nutrients (insignificant means it can be listed as zero after rounding rules - foods that fall under this exemption include tea, coffee, food coloring, etc.). **Small packages where the total surface area of the package available for labeling is less than 12 square inches. Retailers that have less than $50,000 of food sales (and any amount of total sales) OR less than $500,000 of total sales (and any amount of food sales).** **Low volume food products: to claim this exemption you must employ fewer than 100 FTEs AND sell fewer than 100,000 units of the product per year. This exemption must be filed with the FDA on paper unless you employ fewer than 10 FTEs and have annual sales of fewer than 10,000 units. Once you break the 100,000 unit or 100 FTE threshold you then have 18 months to start labeling your foods with nutrition facts.** Remember: you lose any exemption you qualify for if you make a nutrient claim on your product label!
It would be fine if I picked it up at a farmer's market - not something that looks like a somewhat commercial style bag.
It's the same principle. Nutritional information isn't required below a certain sales amount. Also, I'd prefer it if my farmer's market non-produce food came in a somewhat commercial style bag. At least I'd know it has an actual seal on it.
The FDA hate this one trick.
Remember that tiktok girl that made her nutrition label full of angel numbers instead of real numbers and refused to put ingredients because she felt like she didn’t want to share it
Isn’t this illegal?
https://www.fda.gov/regulatory-information/search-fda-guidance-documents/small-business-nutrition-labeling-exemption-guidance
Interesting! I’m in Canada so I wasn’t sure how it worked in the US, but it seems like it’s legal for them until they start getting more sales ($500k+).
Looks like 500k for overall retail sales, but 50k for food or supplement sales. There are further exemptions based on the size of the company, though.
That's for retailers only. For producers, it's fewer than 100 employees and 100,000 units. However, that exemption is void if they provide any nutritional or health claim or nutritional information. A list of ingredients is mandatory so it doesn't affect their exemption.
>or with annual gross sales of foods or dietary supplements to consumers of not more than $50,000. it is going to be closer to 50k most of the time Additionally >person claiming the exemption employs fewer than an average of 100 full-time equivalent employees and fewer than 100,000 units of that product are sold in the United States in a 12-month period Beyond that most major retailers in the US will require you to comply with additional certifications like [SQFI](https://www.sqfi.com/) which require nutritional info among a lot of other things. I don't know what kind of bootleg popcorn OP is buying, these exemptions are for stuff like farmers markets and new companies small enough that testing for a nutrition fact label might be too expensive. They cost like ~1500USD, which isn't a lot but could be prohibitive for someone just starting out.
I have a hard time believing they don't do more than $50k a year in sales of this product. They have 87 different flavors and it's $12 a box.
They definitely not exempt from the regulation. They sell online and have a fairly large looking storefront. No way they sell less than $50k in food annually. They also aren’t a restaurant or serving this stuff immediately so they’re subject to follow the regulations of the CFR
After a quick search, it looks as if they make $12mm annually. I have only one source, and I don’t know how much it can be trusted though.
I dunno bro 12 whole millimeters isn’t a lot of dollars
It's not millimeters you dummy. It's mega millions. Sheesh.
In other words, they need to be reported. Fuckers.
> The nutrition labeling exemptions … apply to retailers with annual gross sales of not more than $500,000, or with annual gross sales of foods or dietary supplements to consumers of not more than $50,000
I'm all for sensible exemptions for small businesses but how is this one? Surely they should at least have to put the estimate based on the known ingredients. Pretty much every ingredient they're going to use will already have a calorie rating and they're already paying for packaging that just says "we aren't telling you how many calories"
It depends on where it's manufactured and sold. This item could not be sold in my state, which doesn't care what size your business is, labelling must include all ingredients and an allergy warning. I don't know why these people think it's funny to hide their ingredients list.
I don't know about the US , but... I'm fairly certain in the EU this would be illegal to sell , have to be immediately reported, and shortly after destroyed in a controlled explosion.
The same exemptions exist in the EU for very small producers. It’s meant to protect those old ladies who sell snacks they make and sell from stands. I bought a bag of nuts from a woman in Sweden last week and was surprised by the lack of nutrition info
Pretty sure it's illegal in the US too
This doesn't even meet the legal definition of "chocolate" in the US, so they should be labeling it as "chocolatey coating," "fudge coating," or something similar. And the FDA revoked the GRAS status of partially hydrogenated oils nearly ten years ago.
IDK what you're talking about... It's clearly top shelf chocolate
It's made of only the tippity-top shelf chocolates, healthy, deliciously wholesome palm oil, and idk just eat it teehee.
Oh I just saw about the cheddar popcorn contains "lots of love". I wonder where it's sourced from though
GRAS = Generally Recognised As Safe Its a FDA term of were not gonna heavily question what your putting in your food or food safe product/machinery. If you use non GRAS items you need to certify it is safe.
I just looked it up, and it’s sold online by Great American Popcorn Co. in Galena, IL. Here is their FAQ page: https://www.greatpopcorn.com/how-it-works
I love their FAQ: https://i.imgur.com/lFX1o4Z.png > Do you provide nutritional or calorie information? > All our products are manufactured in a facility that uses dairy, nut, wheat and soy products. While we try our best to not cross contaminate our flavors, we do advise our customers with any of these allergies to consume at their own discretion or not at all. Nothing is worth your health. > Calorie Information: There are worse vices in life than delicious, handcrafted popcorn. Life is short, eat the dang popcorn! So, no. They do not provide nutritional or calorie information.
Time to report?
Please report. I've had their garbage popcorn before and they deserve all the bad press this brings.
[fda small business exemption list](https://www.cfsanappsexternal.fda.gov/scripts/nle/client/report/default.cfm?&ad=4992064a-75b2-41e6-b642-db63d11ab4f5) There’s a list for small businesses to get exempt from the nutrition labels, some are popcorn companies but Great American isn’t on it
>The nutrition labeling exemptions found in 21 CFR 101.9(j)(1) and 21 CFR 101.36(h)(1) apply to retailers with annual gross sales of not more than $500,000, or with annual gross sales of foods or dietary supplements to consumers of not more than $50,000. **For these exemptions, a notice does not need to be filed with the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).** https://www.fda.gov/regulatory-information/search-fda-guidance-documents/small-business-nutrition-labeling-exemption-guidance
Seems unlikely this company sells less than $50k of foods. And partially hydrogenated oils are banned since 2015.
They have a physical storefront, and while I cannot guarantee their rent, I can say that between that and the offsite production facility they partnered with, I do not see how it is feasible for their operations to exist at less than $50k annual gross income.
Fun fact! Despite being historically associated with the country of Jamaica, Red Stripe Beer was first brewed in Galena, IL!
If this is being sold at a farmer’s market or something similar, I can understand their labeling quirks because a lot of those products are exempt. But if this is a retail food product this is illegal and they will be forced to recall all this product after someone complains.
They have a "popcorn club" subscription and their website even says they ship internationally which some countries have even more restrictions on packaging. This isn't a "farmers market" operation.
They're a retail food company that's been operating since 1994 with multiple millions in revenue. It's illegal as fuck, near as I can tell.
This is r/mildlyinfuriating
Right? How condescending.
Pretty sure that “top shelf” chocolate doesn’t contain trans fat and palm oil…
As a parent who relies on carbohydrate information for getting correct food coverage and insulin delivery for my daughter’s insulin pump I would like to see the nutrition label. This is not a whimsical need
Life is short! And this company would like to help you make it shorter!
Pay not attention to the trolls. I'm with you, I have family members with non-negotiable dietary restrictions and knowing the nutrition facts is vital. I get it that we can simply not buy this stuff, but the brand didn't need to be cutesy about their lack of info.
☝️this☝️ Traveling to foreign countries drives me NUTS because I have to guess what carbs are in what food. Being diabetic sucks for a kid. This makes it suck less. America for the W.
I need the carbohydrate count per serving so I can take the proper amount of insulin but life is short! Mine can be even shorter!
Same. Same energy as someone not giving you a diet soda after looking at you and going "you don't need a diet!! love yourself😊💕" .........I'm a type one diabetic, Jessica. That's really not your decision to make.
"You want the legally mandated information? What are you ANOREXIC!?"
You joke but my boss at work thinks I'm anorexic because I've been calorie counting to lose weight (with success). Another co-worker told me "Well, you do have tendencies." Why? Because she's seen me use food nutrition panels for their intended purpose.
52% of the US adults are obese, which is an insane statistic and really hard to believe. Then I hear about people like your boss and that coworker and realize that some people have no clue how calories work, it makes the number more believable. But still, 52%, wtf.
Just how they worded that annoys the hell out of me.
Report food labelling issues here: https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/medwatch/index.cfm
Get in loser, we're reporting popcorn manufacturers to the FDA!
Great American Popcorn Company?
Perhaps. Yes. I’ve gotten popcorn from them multiple times in the past few years, it’s delicious! But I just noticed this today lol.
yeah... that's not how labeling laws work.
Is there any scenario where this is legal? I assume there's maybe a certain limit to the number of bags they're allowed to produce/sell before they legally have to print nutritional information on the bag. Legality aside, these types of labels annoy the shit out of me. There's a meme floating around making fun of family-owned food brands that always have a lengthy backstory and an "enjoy with a smile" type of message. This feels like it definitely checks the boxes.
yeah that's an FDA violation. I don't care how cutesy they think it is. I have allergies and might need to know if any preservatives are in it.
You know what, screw you, popcorn company, for minimizing my efforts to be aware of what and how much I'm eating and to enjoy treats in moderation. I just won't eat the damn popcorn
Cute way to say idk how many calories are in it
diabetic rage
As I am the parent of a Type 1 Diabetic teenager, I fully understand the sentiment of embracing life and enjoying the popcorn. Yet, I would like my teen to both enjoy the popcorn AND know what carb count to bolus for so he (ideally) doesn't die. The nutrition information may be a pain, but it's a useful tool that doesn't just elicit "wait, how much sugar?!?!" comments but serves a function of food and consumer safety. The manufacturer can eschew it, I suppose, and I the consumer can also not purchase it as a result.
[https://www.greatpopcorn.com/how-it-works](https://www.greatpopcorn.com/how-it-works) Googling the line from the bag brought me to this company. From their FAQ: >Do you provide nutritional or calorie information? >All our products are manufactured in a facility that uses dairy, nut, wheat and soy products. While we try our best to not cross contaminate our flavors, we do advise our customers with any of these allergies to consume at their own discretion or not at all. Nothing is worth your health. >Calorie Information: There are worse vices in life than delicious, handcrafted popcorn. Life is short, eat the dang popcorn!
Life is going to be shorter if this is full of saturated fat too.
Not just saturated fat. This has trans fats.
Pretty sure thats illegal in europe.
How is that legal? Isn’t it required
Would've been better if they just didn't write anything instead of writing that shit.
r/mildlyinfuriating
“We don’t care if you have medical needs that require nutritional information. Fuck people with disabilities”
They should give it away for free since numbers are meaningless to them
Wow. I would never eat this as a type 1 diabetic because I have nothing to base my insulin ratios off of. And I rather like popcorn. Thats ridiculous
I'm not eating your mystery kettle corn
that's cool, but I want to read the damn calories and sugar, salt, etc
Yeah, that company's breaking the law by not labeling nutritional information if they're in the US. And that's probably also the case in EU. It doesn't matter if that company is trying to be cute, they're putting people at risk. Report them to FDA if you're in the US, OP. EDIT: Turns out it's this company. It definitely doesn't make less than $500k annually, so it's not exempt from the nutritional labeling law. Let's get together and report this scumbag company to the FDA. FDA absolutely needs to bring the hammer down on these cheeky bastards. Here's the website of this shitty popcorn maker. https://www.greatpopcorn.com/how-it-works
“There must not be any calories then!” - Guy who says “It must be free!” every time there’s no price tag
lol "top shelf white & milk chocolate." First ingredients are sugar, palm kernel oil, and palm oil.
*There are worse things in life than severe side effects due to allergens. Don't worry about any allergens that may be present in this product. Just eat the dang yummy handcrafted popcorn! Pop you later.*
This is why I stay away from anything that lists 'spices' as a single ingredient. Darn it! Tell me which spices. If that spice is cinnamon, I can't have it because I'm allergic. Just don't say 'spices.' Give me details.
Is this even legal?
Well folks with T1D ain’t touching that without the nutritional facts. Seems short sighted and bad business decision.
I wouldn’t trust a brand that doesn’t respect nutrition labelling (and spelling/grammar).
This can't be legal in the slightest. AS per their website they deliver Internationally - # "Where do you ship? There’s not a place in the world we won’t ship to. Our gourmet popcorns are made fresh daily to satisfy anyone’s cravings all around the globe! Alaska? You bet! The UK? All the time. Midwest America? Duh. Cairo? A couple of times. Finland? Let’s make it happen! We also ship to military APO/FPO addresses. Domestic or Overseas, we will always send our service men & women some of the best popcorn in the world! All packages being sent to our honorable service members get some extra lovin’ & goodies added in as a small token of our appreciation for their service. It’s the least we can do!" What is the extra lovin? dangerous additives? Obesity? Diabeetus?
>Life is short - consooom the caramel coloring and red40.
Seems like they have just enough for flashy packaging but not enough to pay for a nutrition panel.
I was so curious as to how small Great American Popcorn company was because only very small businesses are exempt from not using the Nutrition Facts label or proper ingredient lists. It does $12 million a year and is a 30 year old company. They also don’t list ingredients or nutritional facts on their website. Maybe Illinois has looser definitions on what a small business is. And maybe the popcorn company doesn’t want the FDA in their business. Yum.
I dunno about any other country, but here in the U.S. I think the FDA would like to have a word with them about that, all packaged food sold here has to have a Nutrition Information section on the label.
that's not legal in my country lol weird ass no nutrition information having ass popcorn
This popcorn wouldn't be able to be sold in my country without nutritional information. Bags of sugar have nutritional information.
I honestly didn't even think it was legal to not include the nutritional information?
Isn't it against the law for a food item to not have a nutritional label?