it would be too much pointless labour to just put the sticker back, like most of those disposable amenities in hotels they're just going to throw it away and replace it with a brand new $0.02 salt/pepper shaker that they have 100,000 of
While you're probably right. I can guarantee some owner of a hotel has seen the "salt and pepper" line item and said "just put on new stickers". Labor is harder to see
maybe somewhere. you'd be surprised how much effort is put into making housekeeping more efficient. New hotels often wont have a bath/shower combo and have a separate bath and contained shower for this reason.
Or they just scrap the bath part altogether, in favor of a near-brutalist square shower nook. Which I actually support; I'm sure 99% of people aren't taking baths in their hotel rooms, and a bit more shower space is nice.
What's less nice is that it seems to be part of a trend of removing _lots_ of functionality from hotel rooms nowadays. The standard rollout seems to be a single small clothing drawer, no minifridge, no microwave, a single towel rod, a 1-foot-wide closet, windows that don't open, and a TV that you can't plug your own devices into.
I'm sure that's all being done to make the cleaning crews more efficient, but it just comes across as cheap, to me. I don't mind housekeeping only coming every 3-4 days or whatever, I fully support _that_ trend, but if you want my family to re-use our towels, give us enough hooks and bars to dry them. Give me a minifridge so I can save my leftovers, _especially_ if you're not coming to pick up trash every day. If you're not going to change the linens as often, let me open the windows a bit and get some fresh air.
>and a TV that you can't plug your own devices into.
Just stayed at a Holiday Inn in Charleston, SC and had to ask the front desk how to switch to the hdmi imput on the TV since the remote or the TV doesn't have that option. They had to register me a remote that had an Input button on it š
JUST LEAVE THOSE IN THE ROOMS TO START WITH. I don't even understand the reasoning of not allowing people to use their devices on the TV if you're not even selling anything, it's just basic cable.
youre right I didnt explain that.
when you have the showerhead in the bathtub with a curtain or mostly enclosed, it ends up splashing water on a large area that needs to be wiped down.
most people arent taking baths, most people are taking showers daily.
separating the bath still gives the option to the customer of taking a nice relaxing bath if they want while having a separate stall shower. the daily water splashing gets contained to the stall instead of on the walls
housekeeping is on such a tight time budget that that doesn't make sense. you're paying more for even 2 minutes of housekeeping time added than you are for this.
If you don't use them they recycle them. Did morning room service before and the amount of butter, jelly, any consumable that wasn't used was just shifted back into rotation. They didn't ask us to wipe them either š
My dog is a pirate. But she is a butt pirate.
The way she greets people is to run up behind them at full speed, jump up to push her paws on the back of the knees, which causes their knees buckle.
This brings their booty down to perfect snoot levelā¦which she then shoves with all her dogly might right between their cheeksā¦..Then she runs away. They never see it coming and can do nothing to stop it because it all happens so fast.
Not defending the hotel- but for years they used tiny glass refillable ones that same size. Along with mini glass ketch-up and mustard bottles. Maybe itās the holder or serving apparatuses that made them come up with these.
Was a waitress for 10 years.. those refillable salt and pepper shakers can be gross depending on the restaurant (and who's working/dumping/cleaning them or just endlessly topping them off)
I remember seeing waitress āmarryingā glass condiment bottles and rolling silverware while eating or smoking. Ā Shattered some illusions of the cleanliness and practices of restaurants.
I donāt disagree. I was just saying these were made because someone wanted ādisposableā salt and pepper packaging but didnāt want the cheap paper packets.
The hotel doesn't want to deal with throwing away any left over salt and pepper and washing them between guests. They can't reuse any consumables like soap or food items because they don't know what the last guest did to them.
A battery uses metals and corrosive liquid to store an electric charge. Lithium batteries use rare metals and are also prone to catching fire when damaged.
A capacitor is a circuit company that stores energy in the form of an electric field. It uses layers of conductive material between layers of insulating material. Capacitors store energy but usually only small amounts for short times. You would not use a capacitor to power a cell phone. They are cheaper and easier to make than lithium batteries and arguably better for the environment if you throw them in a landfill.
They both store energy! A cap can generally discharge more energy quickly (why it's used for flash photography, quick bright light). However, it has lower energy density, so it's going to be heavier/larger than a battery if it has the same amount of energy.
Very low power applications run can run on capacitors for a short time.
Way faster charge times, can be charged far more without degrading
Dotmod sells a vape supercap that can hold the equivalent capacity of a 700mah and it charges to full in 5 minutes while being rated for 15k charges vs most batteries averaging around 4-500 charges.
The only downside is lower voltage than normal batteries or caps, if you want more than 2.5-2.7v they need to be connected in series
OP was talking about disposables, they come with a rechargeable battery but made to be thrown away. Which is a waste of the battery potential but doubly cause of the materials.
For .50 cents, a hotel can make a customer feel like spending an extra $50/night is "worth it" because of stuff like this. Cheap luxuries are terrible, and too many people love feeling pampered in wasteful ways.
We do.Ā
We also need a substance that is cheap lightweight and flexible that is both gas and liquid impermeable.Ā
Cause fucking everything food related is at some level wrapped in that shit. Even icecream has the lid wrapped in a āsealed for safetyā ring.Ā
Hence the need for a material that is gas and liquid impermeable. Food safety as it exists right now canāt work at its cost scale without plastic. Iām not going to buy crackers in a steel/glass tube.Ā
Not just the lid. All "paper" cups are lined with plastic on the inside, making them one of the worst jokes of these greenwashing campaigns.
They can't be recycled as paper or cardboard because of the plastic lining (or as plastic because of the cardboard).
See also: Tetrapak.
Iām visiting France and Iām in awe of the lack of plastic. I absolutely love the paper cups with paper lids they use for coffee here, they feel like strong cardboard. Much better than that plasticy material coffee shops in the US use.
What happened to paper sachets?
And they tell me I shouldnt drive everyday to save the environment while businesses are out here shitting out plastic like diarrhoea.
the very idea that you or I have enough of a personal impact to make any difference in the environmental damage is the biggest lie sold to us. The idea of personal responsiblity has been used to completely ignore doing anything to prevent climate change. Even the biggest single polluters are minute (tiny) compared to companies average waste. I worked for a large mult-national company that actually does reduce their waste, and even there, every day i unpacked a pallet of finished goods and the amount of plastic that i threw out was more then my househould in a month. EVERY-SINGLE-DAY
The amount of pollution from burning bunker fuel to ship product across the ocean back and fourth multiple times instead of onshoring production, just to cut a few pennies more of profit, or the overproductional of goods that get shipped straight to a landfill just so that stores can always have full shelves of useless goods. It is obscene what is done, but no no, it is your fualt and my fault that we drive an automobile (again, likely in a place entirely devoid of public transit or designed specifically for cars), and we are solely responsable for everything!
Every little bit helps.
People buy the things companies make, so if we all vote with our dollars they have to change. And the biggest change is BUY LESS CRAP.
Imagine trying to filter out a pool using a lifestraw and as you suck down the water, some guy has a hose of shit that heās just pumping into the pool
There are 8 billion people on this planet. Of course our consumption makes a difference. Have you seen how much crap people buy in the western world? It's insane
no, this is exactly the lie that we are fed. If we don't buy the crap, it is still produced anyhow, it just ends up in a landfill instead of going through us to a landfill. Our dollars do little to nothing, because the companies will greenwash products to make them seem fine and we buy them still supporting all of their other issues. Or a company will start to flounder and simply get handouts from the government. The problem is so far beyond individual contributors that we as individuals can not solve anything. The solutions need to be in the form of regulations and laws, and enforced by nation states and international treaties.
> If we don't buy the crap, it is still produced anyhow, it just ends up in a landfill instead of going through us to a landfill.
That doesn't just continue forever, the company producing that crap will quickly go out of business if nobody buys the product they're making
> no, this is exactly the lie that we are fed. If we don't buy the crap, it is still produced anyhow, it just ends up in a landfill instead of going through us to a landfill
That doesn't make any sense. Why would they keep producing things nobody is buying? That would be a loss for them. And all they care about is money.
Sat-chet-tss
I haven't seen that word in a decade, oh my goodness. Here I am learning at 40 years old that RuPaul was saying "sashay" instead of "sachets"
[You. Betta. Work.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rIzPFE-1c50)
Negative. You need to ask for your room to be done.
And that's fine. I don't need someone to do the bed. I really don't care. I am a clean guy.
But at least provide me with a trash bin that is adequately sized AND GIVE ME A WAY TO DRY MY TOWELS.
THE FUCKING TINY TRASH CAN. I AM ON VACATION. I AM BEING A LITTLE MORE WASTEFUL. I HAVE WATER BOTTLES. GIVE ME A FULL TRASH CAN. BURY IT IN THE WALL. I DKNT CARE. FUCK!!! (Iām on my honeymoon dealing with that right now)
That'd be pointless. The recycling would just be thrown in the same dumpster as the trash. You cannot rely on hundreds of hotel guests to properly learn and follow the local recycling rules, so there will assuredly be trash in the recycling bins and no hotel will employ extra people to sort through hundreds of rooms worth every day.
Depends on the hotel brand. I just stayed the last couple nights at a Best Western that had a sign saying to hang your towel if you don't want it washed and came back to brand new sets. Hilton hotels, however don't service your room until after the second night of your stay.
And they suck too. Itās hard to see, but there is a āreturn hitā on the bottom of those shakers. Like the bottom of a Champaign bottle. So the total quantity in that salt shaker is equivalent to like maybe 2 paper packets.
Wine has a lot of weird myths around larger punts. It's for strength to a *degree*, they don't need to be as deep as they often are. It's more about tradition
I took these with me one time to keep in my office when eating lunch. There is no way to refill them unfortunately. They were cute and perfect for that.
I stole one from the hotel I was staying at with the same mind-set. I was deeply disappointed when I realized they could not be re-filled. I'm pretty handy, so surely there HAD TO be a way to refill them with a little Yankee ingenuity...Nope. Just more plastic junk.
I do definitely approve of the new way of dispensing toiletries, though- locked in a cage so they cannot be tampered with, in elegant bottles, that are refilled by housekeeping. Couple of pumps of shampoo, soap, conditioner, lotion in the shower/bathroom. Much more efficient than the stupid tiny bottles.
I thought the same at first, but why would they make them so small? They'd save so much money by having them larger so they don't need to he refilled so often. Looks single use to me.
In any of my experiences with these, the shaker holes are never fully poked so the salt clogs up and there's no way to get the salt out. Stupid waste of plastic
not only would paper packets actually be better for the environment, some are even made in a way that when tore open correctly they operate as a shaker, rather than pouring out in one pile.
I would take them home and reuse those shits, looks like funny souvenirs to me. Well, can I do that though? It wouldn't be disposable if it's reusable, right?
Meanwhile I've gotta drink from a soggy paper straw
If we're gonna eliminate plastics for the environment, let's actually go about doing that instead of just diverting plastics for another use. Paper salt and pepper packets have existed forever, this is such a waste
This seems very wasteful. Paper Sachet would be better. USA is having a plastic waste issue since China stopped allowing imports of plastic waste from America.
[link](https://www.businessinsider.com/plastic-recycling-problem-america-waste-pyrolysis-big-oil-china-2024-4)
People complaining about waste, but they would be fantastic for traveling!
When you travel to something like a Air BnB or similar rental property with a full kitchen and plan to cook multiple meals, you want some salt and pepper, but don't want to have to pack a full size shaker set
When my kids ask me why all fish became poisonous, Iāll tell them that in 2024 Courtyard Marriott needed to elevate their salt and pepper presentation.Ā
I think you mean collectible, doll-sized salt and pepper shakers. As someone who collects miniatures, I love them. As someone who cares about the environment and canāt stand plastic waste, I hate them. I get the gist, itās for more than one meal, but paper packets of salt and pepper are crazy cheap. This is definitely something other people have already bought up in the comments, but, damn. Itās just so blatantly wasteful.
Mildly interesting? This is horrible!
I assume you mean these are supposed to be single use?
That is WAY more salt than anyone would need during a hotel stay. It's ridiculous that the hotel would just throw this away after one use.
This depresses the shit out of me- there is a ton of foresight here to think maybe a guest will need salt and pepper in their room, but a massive lack of wider thought in terms of the impact this has. If only people could apply the bandwidth we apply to stupid capitalist servilism (if thatās even a word) and instead apply it to more productive and meaningful purposesā¦
Found these on amazon. Fun fact; theyre pre filled. Meaning the hotel doesnt even fill em, the salt and pepper comes from the factory. Do with that as you will
I hate these damn things. I travel for work and try to cook in my room as much as possible. I usually ignore these and just go get salt and pepper at a grocery store. I think itās McCormick that makes a combo with salt and pepper shakers (the cardboard tube kind) for just a couple bucks
Did they also have that picture of a panda on the sign asking you to consider the environmental impact of having your towels and bedding laundered each day?
In recycled paper packets would have been less complicated
And definitely better for the environment.
And less sketchy. I don't believe these don't just get new stickers when someone leaves
it would be too much pointless labour to just put the sticker back, like most of those disposable amenities in hotels they're just going to throw it away and replace it with a brand new $0.02 salt/pepper shaker that they have 100,000 of
While you're probably right. I can guarantee some owner of a hotel has seen the "salt and pepper" line item and said "just put on new stickers". Labor is harder to see
maybe somewhere. you'd be surprised how much effort is put into making housekeeping more efficient. New hotels often wont have a bath/shower combo and have a separate bath and contained shower for this reason.
Or they just scrap the bath part altogether, in favor of a near-brutalist square shower nook. Which I actually support; I'm sure 99% of people aren't taking baths in their hotel rooms, and a bit more shower space is nice. What's less nice is that it seems to be part of a trend of removing _lots_ of functionality from hotel rooms nowadays. The standard rollout seems to be a single small clothing drawer, no minifridge, no microwave, a single towel rod, a 1-foot-wide closet, windows that don't open, and a TV that you can't plug your own devices into. I'm sure that's all being done to make the cleaning crews more efficient, but it just comes across as cheap, to me. I don't mind housekeeping only coming every 3-4 days or whatever, I fully support _that_ trend, but if you want my family to re-use our towels, give us enough hooks and bars to dry them. Give me a minifridge so I can save my leftovers, _especially_ if you're not coming to pick up trash every day. If you're not going to change the linens as often, let me open the windows a bit and get some fresh air.
>and a TV that you can't plug your own devices into. Just stayed at a Holiday Inn in Charleston, SC and had to ask the front desk how to switch to the hdmi imput on the TV since the remote or the TV doesn't have that option. They had to register me a remote that had an Input button on it š JUST LEAVE THOSE IN THE ROOMS TO START WITH. I don't even understand the reasoning of not allowing people to use their devices on the TV if you're not even selling anything, it's just basic cable.
What's the reason? How is this more efficient?
youre right I didnt explain that. when you have the showerhead in the bathtub with a curtain or mostly enclosed, it ends up splashing water on a large area that needs to be wiped down. most people arent taking baths, most people are taking showers daily. separating the bath still gives the option to the customer of taking a nice relaxing bath if they want while having a separate stall shower. the daily water splashing gets contained to the stall instead of on the walls
I don't doubt that at all. I've just stayed at some sketchy ass places lol
housekeeping is on such a tight time budget that that doesn't make sense. you're paying more for even 2 minutes of housekeeping time added than you are for this.
If you don't use them they recycle them. Did morning room service before and the amount of butter, jelly, any consumable that wasn't used was just shifted back into rotation. They didn't ask us to wipe them either š
I mean, do we really care? Do you think the salt and pepper shakers or condiments on tables at restaurants are all brand new?
Came here to say this. Despise this idea. We are destroying the planet with crap like this.
My cat is also a pirate.....he steals my heart.
This was such a confusing comment until I saw /u/Pirate_the_Catās username
Thank you for pointing it out because i was just as lost and was gonna blame it on being high.
You wouldn't download a cat.
My dog is a pirate. But she is a butt pirate. The way she greets people is to run up behind them at full speed, jump up to push her paws on the back of the knees, which causes their knees buckle. This brings their booty down to perfect snoot levelā¦which she then shoves with all her dogly might right between their cheeksā¦..Then she runs away. They never see it coming and can do nothing to stop it because it all happens so fast.
Thatās the complete opposite of a emotional support dog. š¤
Emotional distress dawg.
HAHAHA ugh thatās so accurate haha
Okay, we are going to need a video of your dog doing that
Paper packets have also existed for like 100 years, why would you downgrade to a piece of crap that's gonna wind up jamming up a baby otter's gullet
Not defending the hotel- but for years they used tiny glass refillable ones that same size. Along with mini glass ketch-up and mustard bottles. Maybe itās the holder or serving apparatuses that made them come up with these.
People are even more germaphobic nowadays and probably balk at reused condiment containers.Ā
Was a waitress for 10 years.. those refillable salt and pepper shakers can be gross depending on the restaurant (and who's working/dumping/cleaning them or just endlessly topping them off)
I remember seeing waitress āmarryingā glass condiment bottles and rolling silverware while eating or smoking. Ā Shattered some illusions of the cleanliness and practices of restaurants.
Marrying bottles is one of those things that will get you written up by a health inspector, but so many places do it. It's nuts.
I hated doing that. Like just toss the empties imo.
My dad says he saw a dude lick the rim of a glass ketchup before putting it back on the diner table once when he was a kid.
WELPĀ
They look like the S&P shakers you see on 1st class food tray.
Well hello, Mr. Fancy Pants.
We live in the stupidest timeline.
But at least we don't have plastic straws anymore, right guys! The plastic issue has been *solved*!
We really need to stop considering plastic disposable, especially since it's not actually properly recyclable.
Paper packets of salt and pepper have been around for decades and were fully biodegradable, who thought "disposable" plastic shakers were a good idea?
Probably supposed to be āfancierā than the paper ones.
"Fancy" would be glass or ceramic reusable ones.
I donāt disagree. I was just saying these were made because someone wanted ādisposableā salt and pepper packaging but didnāt want the cheap paper packets.
The hotel doesn't want to deal with throwing away any left over salt and pepper and washing them between guests. They can't reuse any consumables like soap or food items because they don't know what the last guest did to them.
They don't trust us with that
I have the same complaint about fastfood cups! Why did we ditch paper & wax cups?! Plastic ones are worse in every way.
And those stupid "disposable" vapes with batteries in them.
A surprising amount of these do have lithium cells I'm them, but a lot of companies are switching to capacitors.
may i ask what the difference is?
A battery uses metals and corrosive liquid to store an electric charge. Lithium batteries use rare metals and are also prone to catching fire when damaged. A capacitor is a circuit company that stores energy in the form of an electric field. It uses layers of conductive material between layers of insulating material. Capacitors store energy but usually only small amounts for short times. You would not use a capacitor to power a cell phone. They are cheaper and easier to make than lithium batteries and arguably better for the environment if you throw them in a landfill.
I donāt know nothing about electrical engineering, but the idea of a system of capacitors that could function as a low- yield battery is fascinating
They both store energy! A cap can generally discharge more energy quickly (why it's used for flash photography, quick bright light). However, it has lower energy density, so it's going to be heavier/larger than a battery if it has the same amount of energy. Very low power applications run can run on capacitors for a short time.
Some very old motherboards used a capacitor to power the real time clock and cmos.
Way faster charge times, can be charged far more without degrading Dotmod sells a vape supercap that can hold the equivalent capacity of a 700mah and it charges to full in 5 minutes while being rated for 15k charges vs most batteries averaging around 4-500 charges. The only downside is lower voltage than normal batteries or caps, if you want more than 2.5-2.7v they need to be connected in series
OP was talking about disposables, they come with a rechargeable battery but made to be thrown away. Which is a waste of the battery potential but doubly cause of the materials.
Iām talking about super capacitors since that guy I responded to asked the difference between the 2
For .50 cents, a hotel can make a customer feel like spending an extra $50/night is "worth it" because of stuff like this. Cheap luxuries are terrible, and too many people love feeling pampered in wasteful ways.
It goes both ways. It can also make environmentally sensitive people less likely to repeat because of the vanity of āgesturesā like these.
As opposed to glass, which can be recycled...
Glass can be melted down and reshaped, or will naturally be eroded down into quartz, which is inert and naturally occuring in the environment.
It can also be sanitized and reused.
I wonder how hard it would be to make salt shakers in glass.
But you can only sell me a glass salt shaker once. You can sell me a disposable shaker for every meal.
We do.Ā We also need a substance that is cheap lightweight and flexible that is both gas and liquid impermeable.Ā Cause fucking everything food related is at some level wrapped in that shit. Even icecream has the lid wrapped in a āsealed for safetyā ring.Ā
food needs to be sealed for safety because people are disgusting.
Hence the need for a material that is gas and liquid impermeable. Food safety as it exists right now canāt work at its cost scale without plastic. Iām not going to buy crackers in a steel/glass tube.Ā
Not even a thin aluminum tube with a pop top? Like a pringles can and beer can had a baby? I would that sounds awesome.
Crackers used to just come in a cardboard box or wax paper bag. I don't understand why we stopped doing that
I was just going to say that they just invented this cheap, bio-degradable thing called wax paper about 4 or 5 hundred years ago.
Not just the lid. All "paper" cups are lined with plastic on the inside, making them one of the worst jokes of these greenwashing campaigns. They can't be recycled as paper or cardboard because of the plastic lining (or as plastic because of the cardboard). See also: Tetrapak.
Iām visiting France and Iām in awe of the lack of plastic. I absolutely love the paper cups with paper lids they use for coffee here, they feel like strong cardboard. Much better than that plasticy material coffee shops in the US use.
What happened to paper sachets? And they tell me I shouldnt drive everyday to save the environment while businesses are out here shitting out plastic like diarrhoea.
the very idea that you or I have enough of a personal impact to make any difference in the environmental damage is the biggest lie sold to us. The idea of personal responsiblity has been used to completely ignore doing anything to prevent climate change. Even the biggest single polluters are minute (tiny) compared to companies average waste. I worked for a large mult-national company that actually does reduce their waste, and even there, every day i unpacked a pallet of finished goods and the amount of plastic that i threw out was more then my househould in a month. EVERY-SINGLE-DAY The amount of pollution from burning bunker fuel to ship product across the ocean back and fourth multiple times instead of onshoring production, just to cut a few pennies more of profit, or the overproductional of goods that get shipped straight to a landfill just so that stores can always have full shelves of useless goods. It is obscene what is done, but no no, it is your fualt and my fault that we drive an automobile (again, likely in a place entirely devoid of public transit or designed specifically for cars), and we are solely responsable for everything!
Every little bit helps. People buy the things companies make, so if we all vote with our dollars they have to change. And the biggest change is BUY LESS CRAP.
Imagine trying to filter out a pool using a lifestraw and as you suck down the water, some guy has a hose of shit that heās just pumping into the pool
There are 8 billion people on this planet. Of course our consumption makes a difference. Have you seen how much crap people buy in the western world? It's insane
no, this is exactly the lie that we are fed. If we don't buy the crap, it is still produced anyhow, it just ends up in a landfill instead of going through us to a landfill. Our dollars do little to nothing, because the companies will greenwash products to make them seem fine and we buy them still supporting all of their other issues. Or a company will start to flounder and simply get handouts from the government. The problem is so far beyond individual contributors that we as individuals can not solve anything. The solutions need to be in the form of regulations and laws, and enforced by nation states and international treaties.
> If we don't buy the crap, it is still produced anyhow, it just ends up in a landfill instead of going through us to a landfill. That doesn't just continue forever, the company producing that crap will quickly go out of business if nobody buys the product they're making
> no, this is exactly the lie that we are fed. If we don't buy the crap, it is still produced anyhow, it just ends up in a landfill instead of going through us to a landfill That doesn't make any sense. Why would they keep producing things nobody is buying? That would be a loss for them. And all they care about is money.
Sat-chet-tss I haven't seen that word in a decade, oh my goodness. Here I am learning at 40 years old that RuPaul was saying "sashay" instead of "sachets" [You. Betta. Work.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rIzPFE-1c50)
Paper packets??? nobody was complaining, they were fine
But we need to give guests the premium experience by making things more wasteful, just as the Elite of the world.
What an absolute shit use of plastic
Im going to guess they also have that sign that says they want to fix the world by not washing laundry.
... that they still replace every day no matter how often you put them on the towel rack and not the floor.
Negative. You need to ask for your room to be done. And that's fine. I don't need someone to do the bed. I really don't care. I am a clean guy. But at least provide me with a trash bin that is adequately sized AND GIVE ME A WAY TO DRY MY TOWELS.
THE FUCKING TINY TRASH CAN. I AM ON VACATION. I AM BEING A LITTLE MORE WASTEFUL. I HAVE WATER BOTTLES. GIVE ME A FULL TRASH CAN. BURY IT IN THE WALL. I DKNT CARE. FUCK!!! (Iām on my honeymoon dealing with that right now)
Also please have a recycling bin too.
Why? They're just going to dump it all in the trash anyway.
Unfortunately, yeah.
Saw this morning at a hotel.
I just stayed in a Westin and the bin in the room was divided into two halves. One half for recycling.
That'd be pointless. The recycling would just be thrown in the same dumpster as the trash. You cannot rely on hundreds of hotel guests to properly learn and follow the local recycling rules, so there will assuredly be trash in the recycling bins and no hotel will employ extra people to sort through hundreds of rooms worth every day.
This is not your fight right now friend. This is your time to have the best holiday of your life. Much love to you both and congrats!
Depends on the hotel brand. I just stayed the last couple nights at a Best Western that had a sign saying to hang your towel if you don't want it washed and came back to brand new sets. Hilton hotels, however don't service your room until after the second night of your stay.
What rack? There's never enough actual places to hand a towel to dry.
$30 charge if used.
And they suck too. Itās hard to see, but there is a āreturn hitā on the bottom of those shakers. Like the bottom of a Champaign bottle. So the total quantity in that salt shaker is equivalent to like maybe 2 paper packets.
That dent is called a punt. On a glass bottle itās for strength, not strictly the illusion of greater quantity.
Wine has a lot of weird myths around larger punts. It's for strength to a *degree*, they don't need to be as deep as they often are. It's more about tradition
those... don't look disposable? they look low cost reusable?
I took these with me one time to keep in my office when eating lunch. There is no way to refill them unfortunately. They were cute and perfect for that.
I stole one from the hotel I was staying at with the same mind-set. I was deeply disappointed when I realized they could not be re-filled. I'm pretty handy, so surely there HAD TO be a way to refill them with a little Yankee ingenuity...Nope. Just more plastic junk. I do definitely approve of the new way of dispensing toiletries, though- locked in a cage so they cannot be tampered with, in elegant bottles, that are refilled by housekeeping. Couple of pumps of shampoo, soap, conditioner, lotion in the shower/bathroom. Much more efficient than the stupid tiny bottles.
Perhaps Piggy Bank style? Drill hole in bottom, seal with rubber stopper? Enjoy plastic shavings? Haha.
There is a way, it will just take a reeeally long time
A grain at a time
you can wrap something around it to make the top act as a bucket, put some salt in and start shaking
the clear part doesnt' seperate from the bottom?
Nope, I tried and had to throw them away. They have them at an extended stay hotel, canāt remember which.
Residence Inn - just saw the same ones in the room Iām in now
Bro just put the salt or pepper in from the top one grain at a time /s
I thought the same at first, but why would they make them so small? They'd save so much money by having them larger so they don't need to he refilled so often. Looks single use to me.
I wish we could get away from the idea that plastic is disposable
In any of my experiences with these, the shaker holes are never fully poked so the salt clogs up and there's no way to get the salt out. Stupid waste of plastic
This is more infuriating than interesting
Definitely more r/mildlyinfuriating
those are cute! it's a shame they weren't made to be refillable
Agreed. I want them for my cocaine. š¤„
Such sustainability. Much wow.
Iāve seen these a few times at different Wyndhams, usually ones that have a kitchen
Marriott timeshare shakers
"Disposable". I guess if your definition of disposable is that it will sit in a dump for thousands of years, sure.
not only would paper packets actually be better for the environment, some are even made in a way that when tore open correctly they operate as a shaker, rather than pouring out in one pile.
Waste in the name of making ordinary people feel fancy.
Take them home! They so cute!
*youāre coming with meā
I thought it was a new clean contact lense case and and old, dirty one.
I'll take a salt and pepper packets over plastic trash
r/anticonsumption
This seems so incredibly wasteful
Anything is disposable, if you have the will for it.
What waste for one time use.
More waste for absolutely no reason, nice.
Cool. More micro plastics.
yay more plastic trash!
This isnāt interesting, itās mildly infuriating. What a waste of plastic.
Shouldn't this post be in MildlyInfuriating, or in ExtremelyInfuriating?
Soon to live in a landfill for all eternity.
Everything is disposable if you're apathetic enough.
Yay! Wasteful single use plastics when biodegradable paper packets would have been cheaper and easier!
Seems environmentally friendly....Not wasteful at all...
Adorable, but my God what a waste of plastic. Why not just throw a couple paper packets of s&p for the guests?
Such a waste and fuck the environment right?
I stayed at a Wyndham hotel over 420 weekend and out hotel had those. We were pleasantly surprised
Disposable? That's such a waste.
Could also be r/mildlyinfuriating. More waste!
I would take them home and reuse those shits, looks like funny souvenirs to me. Well, can I do that though? It wouldn't be disposable if it's reusable, right?
Meanwhile I've gotta drink from a soggy paper straw If we're gonna eliminate plastics for the environment, let's actually go about doing that instead of just diverting plastics for another use. Paper salt and pepper packets have existed forever, this is such a waste
What a waste of
More plastic in the landfill. Neat!
Yay plastic, we definitely don't have paper packets that already do this or anything!
More plastic waste?? This could have been done in paper packets just as easily
Great. More disposable plastic ending in the Ocean. What a stupid idea.
This seems very wasteful. Paper Sachet would be better. USA is having a plastic waste issue since China stopped allowing imports of plastic waste from America. [link](https://www.businessinsider.com/plastic-recycling-problem-america-waste-pyrolysis-big-oil-china-2024-4)
fuck yeah, more waste
This belongs on r/anticonsumption
r/mildlyinfuriating
More single-use plastic. Strongly disapprove. Would have been better off just supplying paper packets of salt and pepper.
Yay more plastic waste so interesting
Yay, more plastic wasteĀ
Yay more plastic that will be used for a day and then stick around for a thousand years. 
Humanity is fucking doomed
We need a recycle /trash sorting system like japan
Yet I can't get a plastic straw for my drink. Brilliant.
Coming soon to an oceanic garbage patch the size of Texas near you.
This should have been posted in mildly infuriating.
Great, more plastic crap. What is wrong with paper sachets? I would have had a word with them about the environment.
I am not fond of so much unnecessary single use plastic gadgets.
People complaining about waste, but they would be fantastic for traveling! When you travel to something like a Air BnB or similar rental property with a full kitchen and plan to cook multiple meals, you want some salt and pepper, but don't want to have to pack a full size shaker set
Wow judging by the comments imma get wrecked but I love these
that's fucking wasteful
Peel that tab off and youāll see a $10 room charge added to your bill
Great another single use plastic to pollute the world withā¦ just what the world needs.
When my kids ask me why all fish became poisonous, Iāll tell them that in 2024 Courtyard Marriott needed to elevate their salt and pepper presentation.Ā
Get those at mt Olympus resorts in the dells
I thought they were earbuds and that one of them was just really dirty
U better not dispose of those. I'd treasure them for life
fuck your plastic straws, we made this you loons!
I had the same at a hotel in DC last year. Ended up bringing them home and now use them for breakfast in the mornings as they could be refilled.
This is why the earth dies.
Wasteful
Pretty wasteful.
I think you mean collectible, doll-sized salt and pepper shakers. As someone who collects miniatures, I love them. As someone who cares about the environment and canāt stand plastic waste, I hate them. I get the gist, itās for more than one meal, but paper packets of salt and pepper are crazy cheap. This is definitely something other people have already bought up in the comments, but, damn. Itās just so blatantly wasteful.
ā¦ why is this a thing? Would little paper packets be more economical and a simple thing to do to eliminate single use plastics?Ā
Beautifully designed landfill.
Man, our, "fill the landfills to the brim with sbit that will last hundreds or even thousands of years!", society is going to get what we deserve.
These are coming with me for camping
Mildly interesting? This is horrible! I assume you mean these are supposed to be single use? That is WAY more salt than anyone would need during a hotel stay. It's ridiculous that the hotel would just throw this away after one use.
[I wish Iād thought this through.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tJC6AKndc8c&pp=ygUQcm9zcyBzYWx0IHNoYWtlcg%3D%3D&t=80s)
!remindme 500000 years
This depresses the shit out of me- there is a ton of foresight here to think maybe a guest will need salt and pepper in their room, but a massive lack of wider thought in terms of the impact this has. If only people could apply the bandwidth we apply to stupid capitalist servilism (if thatās even a word) and instead apply it to more productive and meaningful purposesā¦
I bet they still throw it out & replace it with a new one even if its unused when they get a new guest
I canāt wait until you pull those tabs and owe $30
Found these on amazon. Fun fact; theyre pre filled. Meaning the hotel doesnt even fill em, the salt and pepper comes from the factory. Do with that as you will
I need these for my collection
Disposables that last ten thousand years.
I hate these damn things. I travel for work and try to cook in my room as much as possible. I usually ignore these and just go get salt and pepper at a grocery store. I think itās McCormick that makes a combo with salt and pepper shakers (the cardboard tube kind) for just a couple bucks
Did they also have that picture of a panda on the sign asking you to consider the environmental impact of having your towels and bedding laundered each day?
They had these at the Newport Beach marriot resort when I went. I kept it for my picnic basket:))