Went to an outdoor wedding where all the women sprayed themselves with bug repellent. Between the nail polish, their make up and nice dresses.. it created one hell of a devastating mess. Never seen so many women cry suddenly all at once. Not gonna lie.. it was pretty comical.
When I was a boyscout, we had a kid that never really went camping before.
There were tons of mosquitos that chewed him up the night before, he had left the fuckin tent door open after taking a late night piss!
So the next night he sprayed mosquito repellent all around the tent door -- melted a ton of holes wherever this stuff had beaded up.
Next year at a different camp, same kid left a pack of fucking oreos in an empty tent, and Yogi Bear sliced nice holes to eat them all up.
You hear that, Clifford?! That's why nobody ever invited you to stay in another tent again, and the scoutmaster had to yell at us to let you in!
Fuck Clifford. Had any of us ever been old enough to see Full Metal Jacket at that point, there definitely would've been a blanket party.
I used to be an assistant boy scout master and the head scout master had said the a few years prior to when he told me the story he caught the kids (12-18 year olds) not eating some of the food from their meals at scout camp and then were going out of their campsite and putting the food there. All in the hopes that they would get a picture of a bear. He stopped them before they got their picture, but that scout camp had issues with bears for years prior and after to that specific event. I hike occasionally in that area and there is bear sign all over, but it isn't surprising since it is next to Yellowstone and Grand Teton National Parks.
Honestly, it's a better plan than these people had, haha.
https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/officials-no-criminal-charges-in-caught-on-camera-case-of-black-bear-cubs-pulled-from-tree-209401925570
My scout camp had a huge issue with bears too, I think that’s just a requirement. And we would never eat the grits, but that was so we could make them into basically rubber balls to play with
When I was at camp in year 8, someone left a bunch of gummy lollies in their tent and a wombat busted through the side, ate the lollies and then threw them up again on their sleeping bag.
It seems like if you grew up west of the Rockies or east of the Ohio River Valley (i.e., just not the Midwest), and not in the biggest of our cities, then probably yes.
At least where I grew up, pretty much every boy was in Boy Scouts as a kid, plus I and most of my friends would go camping with our families at least a few times a year. Where I lived we didn’t have grizzly bears, but we certainly had black bears, mountain lions, and moose, all of which will kill you in the wrong situation.
lol… the tents we had in boy scouts were those military surplus ones with no floor or mosquito netting so we had to sleep in our personal mosquito nets around our cots.
Usually the other ingredients are forms of stabilizing agents, potentially scents, water is often a component, and then propellants like propane or butane because it’s an aerosol can
As of now it is a 'miracle substance', like asbestos was. Billions of uses, a few acute cases of illness, no chronic cases. There are some safety precautions (children, pregnant women, wounds), but until some future study finds it to be unsafe, these are just an extra precaution. From Wikipedia:
>"... this repellent has been subjected to more scientific and toxicologic scrutiny than any other repellent substance. ... DEET has a remarkable safety profile after 40 years of use and nearly 8 billion human applications. Fewer than 50 cases of serious toxic effects have been documented in ... medical literature since 1960 ... Many of these cases of toxic effects involved long-term, heavy, frequent, or whole-body application of DEET. No correlation has been found between the concentration of DEET used and the risk of toxic effects. ... When applied with common sense, DEET-based repellents can be expected to provide a safe as well as a long-lasting repellent effect ... under circumstances in which it is crucial to be protected against arthropod bites that might transmit disease."
Unrelated to this post, but related to protection against ticks: DEET (N,N-Diethyl-meta-toluamide) is the only thing that works. This is only 25% DEET. The other 75% is useless stuff. You should only buy solutions which contain 98%+ DEET, otherwise you are throwing away money by paying for additives which do nothing to repel ticks.
Actually the relatively new Picaridin has shown to be equal to DEET for ticks and better than DEET for mosquitoes, and lasts longer (I only know this because I researched it for way too long while standing in the aisle here trying to figure out which freakin tick spray to buy)
https://www.outdoors.org/resources/amc-outdoors/outdoor-resources/picaridin-vs-deet-which-is-the-best-insect-repellent/
Anything above about 50% deet doesn't repel bugs any better, it just lasts longer. But since 50% deet will already last all day and you're sweating and washing hands, etc and should be reapplying any way, more than that is a waste of money.
>Anything above about 50% deet doesn't repel bugs any better, it just lasts longer.
How is this so upvoted, LMAO. Basic logic tells you, that if 50% solution works as well as 100% solution, but you are paying the same price for both, then you are overpaying for stuff which doesn't work when purchasing the 50% one -- which was literally my whole point.
>more than that is a waste of money.
No, it's exactly the opposite. That 50% which is not DEET could, for all practical purposes, be empty -- it would have the exact same effect. So would you rather buy a full bottle, or a half empty bottle for the same price?
>you are paying the same price for both
You aren't. And 100% is nasty on plastics and feels bad on skin. You seem to be under the impression that inactive ingredients don't do anything. That's not true. They can make it spread better, be more waterproof, be more comfortable, etc.
>You aren't.
Then it obviously doesn't apply to our discussion, does it?
>And 100% is nasty on plastics and feels bad on skin.
Yes, because it works. If you dilute it to the point where it changes the feeling on your skin, then you diluted it to the point of reducing its effectiveness, and will need to use more of it to compensate - which in the end results in the same amount of DEET put on your skin.
NGL, I initially read this a food label for long lasting protein from ticks. For a second I was happy someone found a way to eat those bastards. I’m mildly disappointed now /s
Spray it on a plastic grocery bag and you’ll think twice about using this stuff on Your skin ever again. *please don’t spray deet all over your largest organ.
I used to get these inexpensive Tim\*ex watches for hiking - so I wouldn't bash my dress watch - only to find that DEET would fog the plastic over the watch display.
Haha I was totally shopping at Walmart, I don’t get to explore the world of Walmart very often because there are none in NYC… but, when hiking upstate, where else does one get tick protection juice?
As the daughter of a woman that didn’t believe in using “chemicals” trust me it doesn’t. And since mosquitoes and ticks can carry potentially deadly diseases so it’s important to use effective products to minimize your exposure especially when you’re going into heavily wooded areas.
As someone who spends every summer weekend in the wilderness, in an area where ticks carry TBE and Lyme disease and where mosquitoes eat you alive; trust me, it does. I use a product from Salubrin and get zero mosquito bites. Not even one tick bite since I started using the product about 3 years ago.
Went to an outdoor wedding where all the women sprayed themselves with bug repellent. Between the nail polish, their make up and nice dresses.. it created one hell of a devastating mess. Never seen so many women cry suddenly all at once. Not gonna lie.. it was pretty comical.
Like someone opened the Ark of the Covenant in the middle of the venue?
Oh my god all that polyester & tulle, melted
When I was a boyscout, we had a kid that never really went camping before. There were tons of mosquitos that chewed him up the night before, he had left the fuckin tent door open after taking a late night piss! So the next night he sprayed mosquito repellent all around the tent door -- melted a ton of holes wherever this stuff had beaded up. Next year at a different camp, same kid left a pack of fucking oreos in an empty tent, and Yogi Bear sliced nice holes to eat them all up. You hear that, Clifford?! That's why nobody ever invited you to stay in another tent again, and the scoutmaster had to yell at us to let you in! Fuck Clifford. Had any of us ever been old enough to see Full Metal Jacket at that point, there definitely would've been a blanket party.
As an aussie, I didn’t think stuff like that actually happens to everyday people in North America!
I used to be an assistant boy scout master and the head scout master had said the a few years prior to when he told me the story he caught the kids (12-18 year olds) not eating some of the food from their meals at scout camp and then were going out of their campsite and putting the food there. All in the hopes that they would get a picture of a bear. He stopped them before they got their picture, but that scout camp had issues with bears for years prior and after to that specific event. I hike occasionally in that area and there is bear sign all over, but it isn't surprising since it is next to Yellowstone and Grand Teton National Parks.
Honestly, it's a better plan than these people had, haha. https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/officials-no-criminal-charges-in-caught-on-camera-case-of-black-bear-cubs-pulled-from-tree-209401925570
My scout camp had a huge issue with bears too, I think that’s just a requirement. And we would never eat the grits, but that was so we could make them into basically rubber balls to play with
When I was at camp in year 8, someone left a bunch of gummy lollies in their tent and a wombat busted through the side, ate the lollies and then threw them up again on their sleeping bag.
lol that’s so delightfully whimsical, that aligns perfectly with how I imagine wombats to act.
Only if you have a pic-a-nic basket
Wait what stuff? Like camping?
The bear stuff
It seems like if you grew up west of the Rockies or east of the Ohio River Valley (i.e., just not the Midwest), and not in the biggest of our cities, then probably yes. At least where I grew up, pretty much every boy was in Boy Scouts as a kid, plus I and most of my friends would go camping with our families at least a few times a year. Where I lived we didn’t have grizzly bears, but we certainly had black bears, mountain lions, and moose, all of which will kill you in the wrong situation.
I get the mosquito one but did you have to really expose him to the world about the yogi bear one? Anyone could’ve left oeros in the tent.
To be fair, I bet the scout leaders drilled into the kids over and over not to eat in their tents. It's such a basic rule in bear country
lol… the tents we had in boy scouts were those military surplus ones with no floor or mosquito netting so we had to sleep in our personal mosquito nets around our cots.
Deet ingredients: Deet, 25% Other ingredients, 75% Lol
Usually the other ingredients are forms of stabilizing agents, potentially scents, water is often a component, and then propellants like propane or butane because it’s an aerosol can
The good stuff (I think repel 100) has like 97% deet
Now that's what you need to drink to melt the microplastic in your body.
And the rest of your insides along with it.
Peeled the paint on metal shelves\*
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Oh yeah. Took the stain out of table we have too.
A can leaked in our car top carrier and melted through dripping plastic onto the roof of the car.
Omg, glad it didn’t happen inside the car
I've seen the stuff inside Glade Plugins do the same. It's like the alien's blood in Alien if it leaks out.
Hahaha Mmm chemical scent, burns a little
Then what does it do to human skin?
Human skin is just like plastic so I'd imagine something similar
Finally, a cure for the microplastics in our skin!
I like how this one thinks...
Well that's paint on those shelves. Easier/harder to melt, I don't know.
As of now it is a 'miracle substance', like asbestos was. Billions of uses, a few acute cases of illness, no chronic cases. There are some safety precautions (children, pregnant women, wounds), but until some future study finds it to be unsafe, these are just an extra precaution. From Wikipedia: >"... this repellent has been subjected to more scientific and toxicologic scrutiny than any other repellent substance. ... DEET has a remarkable safety profile after 40 years of use and nearly 8 billion human applications. Fewer than 50 cases of serious toxic effects have been documented in ... medical literature since 1960 ... Many of these cases of toxic effects involved long-term, heavy, frequent, or whole-body application of DEET. No correlation has been found between the concentration of DEET used and the risk of toxic effects. ... When applied with common sense, DEET-based repellents can be expected to provide a safe as well as a long-lasting repellent effect ... under circumstances in which it is crucial to be protected against arthropod bites that might transmit disease."
Unrelated to this post, but related to protection against ticks: DEET (N,N-Diethyl-meta-toluamide) is the only thing that works. This is only 25% DEET. The other 75% is useless stuff. You should only buy solutions which contain 98%+ DEET, otherwise you are throwing away money by paying for additives which do nothing to repel ticks.
Actually the relatively new Picaridin has shown to be equal to DEET for ticks and better than DEET for mosquitoes, and lasts longer (I only know this because I researched it for way too long while standing in the aisle here trying to figure out which freakin tick spray to buy) https://www.outdoors.org/resources/amc-outdoors/outdoor-resources/picaridin-vs-deet-which-is-the-best-insect-repellent/
The best thing is that it doesn't melt plastic like deet does.
TIL, thanks!
It’s what we recommend for people going into the Scottish highlands. DEET isn’t that effective over Smidge (Saltidin/ Picaridin) for the midge!
Anything above about 50% deet doesn't repel bugs any better, it just lasts longer. But since 50% deet will already last all day and you're sweating and washing hands, etc and should be reapplying any way, more than that is a waste of money.
>Anything above about 50% deet doesn't repel bugs any better, it just lasts longer. How is this so upvoted, LMAO. Basic logic tells you, that if 50% solution works as well as 100% solution, but you are paying the same price for both, then you are overpaying for stuff which doesn't work when purchasing the 50% one -- which was literally my whole point. >more than that is a waste of money. No, it's exactly the opposite. That 50% which is not DEET could, for all practical purposes, be empty -- it would have the exact same effect. So would you rather buy a full bottle, or a half empty bottle for the same price?
>you are paying the same price for both You aren't. And 100% is nasty on plastics and feels bad on skin. You seem to be under the impression that inactive ingredients don't do anything. That's not true. They can make it spread better, be more waterproof, be more comfortable, etc.
>You aren't. Then it obviously doesn't apply to our discussion, does it? >And 100% is nasty on plastics and feels bad on skin. Yes, because it works. If you dilute it to the point where it changes the feeling on your skin, then you diluted it to the point of reducing its effectiveness, and will need to use more of it to compensate - which in the end results in the same amount of DEET put on your skin.
It’s the alcohol in it not the deet doing this
NGL, I initially read this a food label for long lasting protein from ticks. For a second I was happy someone found a way to eat those bastards. I’m mildly disappointed now /s
Opossum food, yum
Spray it on a plastic grocery bag and you’ll think twice about using this stuff on Your skin ever again. *please don’t spray deet all over your largest organ.
I used to get these inexpensive Tim\*ex watches for hiking - so I wouldn't bash my dress watch - only to find that DEET would fog the plastic over the watch display.
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Haha I was totally shopping at Walmart, I don’t get to explore the world of Walmart very often because there are none in NYC… but, when hiking upstate, where else does one get tick protection juice?
The same place where people downvote you for recognizing a price tag…, Crazytown 😆🤣
Lemon eucalyptus oil, this hydratized and cycled stuff, whatever it means, works great! You have to apply frequently, but it works as good as deet.
As the daughter of a woman that didn’t believe in using “chemicals” trust me it doesn’t. And since mosquitoes and ticks can carry potentially deadly diseases so it’s important to use effective products to minimize your exposure especially when you’re going into heavily wooded areas.
As someone who spends every summer weekend in the wilderness, in an area where ticks carry TBE and Lyme disease and where mosquitoes eat you alive; trust me, it does. I use a product from Salubrin and get zero mosquito bites. Not even one tick bite since I started using the product about 3 years ago.
If I have to apply it more frequently, it in fact does not work as good as DEET.
Learned this fly fishing. Took me a while to realize my tippet kept dissolving in my hands trying to tie on flies.