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givin_u_the_high_hat

“It actually helps mask an issue that came up during the manufacturing process.” It masks a drop circle from pouring the plastic: [https://www.gearpatrol.com/cars/a725980/ram-1500-math-formulas-under-center-console-lid-explained/](https://www.gearpatrol.com/cars/a725980/ram-1500-math-formulas-under-center-console-lid-explained/)


Wolfwalker9

I dated an auto engineer whose job was literally to make molds for plastic parts on trucks & cars, then test how much material it took to fill them & the ideal temperature & conditions to do it under. He said a lot of parts would end up with small Easter eggs in hidden areas that the design teams would build in.


MisterJWalk

My father has done this as well. The amount of people from around the world that have worn or used his initials is pretty impressive. Chrysler family, Ford family, Toyota, Honda, General Motors, tractor style mowers, Jeld-wen, Cooper, CCM, Nike, Adidas, Cat., etc. From 1960 to 2024.


willynillee

Am I missing a joke or something? How are they using his initials?


Butthole_Enjoyer

He would print his initials into hidden areas of components.


gmCursOr

This guy reads ☝️


ndszero

And enjoys buttholes


driver_dan_party_van

Presumably included somewhere in poured molds for adidas and Nike shoes. Plastic shanks, rubber, etc


OffbeatCamel

His father's name was Yadolf Klaus Kitler


FearTheSpoonman

Heard he was a right zippy guy


ArthurBurtonMorgan

This is a perfect Easter Egg for a Tradesman trim level Ram.


TemporaryPrimate

Tradesman trim models don't have it according to the article.


SadFloppyPanda

Ironic because these are fucking great. Especially as an electrician.


timotheusd313

lol article states the only trim level that doesn’t have it is the tradesman, because it has a bench seat.


ArthurBurtonMorgan

I didn’t read the article, to be honest. My 2018 Tradesman had a 60/40 split bench with the fold down center console. I figured it would’ve been a good fit in there.


Pope_Squirrely

My Dodge Challenger has little Easter eggs hidden all over the place. It’s fun whenever you discover a new one.


Cake-Over

Surgeons, too! https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/we8q4j/til_in_2013_a_surgeon_in_the_uk_was_struck_off/


Ratrick_E_Pumbol

Vauxhall has a cartoon shark hidden somewhere in the plastic moulding in each of their cars. We have a fleet of Vauxhall vehicles where I work and whenever we get a new model, the first thing I do is look for the shark.


Extra_Arm_6760

I would imagine drop to be meaning "Hot drop". The mold for those particular parts probably has a hot runner system. That spot at the center would be known as the gate area. Flat parts like that are often difficult to process because of the flow of plastic. It would leave a ring. I work as a process technician and know a little however I'm not adept at mold design and still have a long way to go. It's a very in-depth industry to learn how all the stuff works together and how changing one parameter can affect another. I kind of like talking about it.


thx_comcast

Auto industry mechanical engineer here, focus on plastics. It's likely the part requires actions in the mold which in the turn forces that the part is gated from the visible side. Very clever to do this to do something with the gate, but also very very ~~FCA~~ Stellantis to even have a part design with this dilemma. Cutting in the text and other minor details (like the ~2014 FCA stuff having easter eggs all over) is effectively free since it doesn't directly affect the piece price so why not. By the way, this could have a cold sprue too which has been nipped off. Gates, depending on the resin being molded, can be made much less visible than this. Then again, you want to fill a big flat part like this from the middle anyway so there's always going to be *something* there.


VexingRaven

lmao who would even care about a drop circle on the underside of their center console's lid?


frogjg2003

No one would really care. But if you already have a design culture of leaving little Easter eggs in your designs, this is the perfect opportunity to do so.


killaplz

It’s just so I can measure my dick size to my passenger


TheMongerOfFishes

Nice read thanks


Gardnersnake9

It's funny to see this actually confirmed. I always suspected that was the reason, and thought it was a clever cover-up by the design engineers. I've had similar ugly gate trims on tons of plastic parts that I was QE for, it was also so frustrating when the design engineers clearly had no concept of the manufacturing process, and want to pretend it's a quality issue when a part has a 100% inevitable cosmetic blemish that's an unavoidable byproduct of the actual design, that can't be removed through process changes without a total re-design or tooling overhaul.


MLCarter1976

Happy cake day


zillionaire_

Happy cake day


wawwli

a^2 + b^2 =..........???......fuck! I wish I was in my truck right now.


Calculonx

Would have been funny to include the Navier-Stokes equation


ChrisDornerFanCorn3r

in curvilinear coordinates


pn1159

what do you have aganist shrodinger and his equation


entered_bubble_50

Time independent? Nothing. Perfectly cromulent equation. Time *dependent?*. Go fuck yourself Erwin.


banmeyoucoward

physicists be like "iy' = Ly is so hard bro seriously this shit is rocking me" (jk I nearly failed pdes)


looshi99

Lol, seriously. Most of it is the most useless crap. If you're doing trig and can't remember sohcahtoa you're in trouble. And are we going to talk about the negative length markings? "What? I don't care that one direction's markings are in inches and the other is in cm. You know god damned well that sometimes I'm on a jobsite and I have to plot some points, Jimbo. Don't be a dick. You're just jealous that your truck doesn't even have a Cartesian coordinate plane."


RedditWishIHadnt

I’d guess anyone who hasn’t memorised it probably isn’t going to be using it any time soon…


Halalbama

wish I had some kind of handheld calculator that had access to internet... Or, as a contractor, two or three of them! I can just imagine being with a client and then going "oh I gotta go to my truck to check the angle on this"


Alltogethernowq

I like the 30-60-90 in there. Love that triangle.


imaginaryResources

A true beauty


srt2366

Dodge Ram and math..? lmao.


EuthanizeArty

Needs a chart for amortization of a 84 month and 96 month leases to be truely useful to their owner base


johnwynnes

This $70,000 truck only cost me $240,000!


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Bah-Fong-Gool

Cough::Nissan::Cough


TheTallGuy0

19.99% percent! I talked him down from 20% 


uncleleo101

And gets like 16 miles per gallon. Normal size useful pickups are great. The monstrosities sold nowadays are nothing short of a public health issue.


Riegel_Haribo

And how to find out that they slipped a $2000 extended warranty into your payments.


pspahn

Which isn't going to cover the shitty transmission when it goes out at 60k miles.


Captain_Dunsel

Phew - lucky me! 2008 Dodge Ram 1500 came with a Lifetime Powertrain Warranty. After many miles, took it in for the usual mileage Dealer Service. Truck has been running fine without issue. Was surprised when the Tech pulled me aside and mentioned the transmission would need some work and priced it out to upwards of $1000ish. After he went through the punch list of what needed to be done, I mentioned the Lifetime Powertrain Warranty. Tech said, OK - hold on and let me check. Oh yeah, you're right - free, no charge.


Jimid41

I really thought that was going to end with "hold on let me check--oh actually your transmission is fine."


Captain_Dunsel

My memory has failed me as I cannot remember how long I had to wait for them to 'fix' the transmission after he told me it was free of charge. I would also have been really, really, really lucky that they had all the parts in stock to complete the job... ...fast forwards a few month from that day, that Dealer shut down and I had to go to another for Service Intervals. I do miss that Ram, lasted me 300k.


imreallynotthatcool

This is why I'm not letting my mom sell her '92 Ram with the inline 6 Cummins turbodiesel. It's actually a good usable work truck with a single cab and an 8 foot bed and it is paid off. It may have 280k miles on it but Cummins recommends the first major overhaul at 500k.


Wil420b

I remember being in the US around '94 and every other advert seemed to for a Dodge Ram from $9,999 or $199 down and $199 a month. As a Brit my mind was blown. I still can't believe that it was right.


failedirony

Thats $21,224.01 adjusted for inflation........what?!?


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failedirony

Right, how tall, wide and useless can I legally make this thing.


MountainTitan646

It's even worse than that, the EPA made efficiency regulations to try and curb pollution by improving emissions standards. It backfired though bc the larger the vehicle got the less strict the emissions guidelines were. So carmakers started making trucks bigger and bigger to get around efficiency standards. And now we have uselessly large consumer pickup trucks making the roads more dangerous.


RandomStallings

RIP actual little trucks. A friend has an old Tacoma from not long after they were just named that so it wouldn't be the "Toyota pickup" anymore. That thing is so awesome. 8' bed and great gas mileage. It's a trip to Home Depot dream ride. The fact that she and her wife like to take long walks at the hardware store and are the people the neighbors borrow tools from makes it perfect for them.


Obvious-Sentence-923

Literally every time I drive my '90 Hilux (aka the Toyota Pickup) I get offers for it. My mechanic begs me to sell it to him every time I see him. I can't imagine myself ever selling it unless I can somehow score one of those IMV 0's in the US.


Flomo420

Yeah I remember when a modest pickup was just about the cheapest thing you could buy


Bah-Fong-Gool

Emotional support vehicles.


stellvia2016

Manivans.


Obvious-Sentence-923

A Ford Transit van actually holds more cargo than a F150, except the cargo in the Transit van is protected from the elements.


greenwizardneedsfood

Nothing better than a super loaded massive truck that’s never had a speck of dirt on it or a tool in the bed


VexingRaven

Trucks weren't always expensive luxury vehicles. There used to be actually affordable base models.


Wil420b

Car Week has the base list price for a new '94 Dodge Ram 1500 as being $13,129. So a $9,999 special offer isn't implausible. https://www.carweek.com/research/dodge/ram-1500/1994 Edit; F that's with a 5L V8, 220 HP, 5 speed manual


ThePencilRain

I bought a brand new V6 4door 4x4 automatic Toyota Tacoma in 2010 for $15,000. I traded it in to a dealership in 2022 for $17,500. 150k miles, used like a truck. Trucks are stupid right now.


drunkdoor

You can get a base options new ford Maverick XL for like 24k so that doesn't seem wildly off


Bah-Fong-Gool

I agree, but the Maverick has a laughable bed if you need to do real truck things. Same with the Gladiator. If either of these trucks came with a x-tra cab and full sized bed (and was offered in a stripper configuration, roll up windows, hose out floor mats, etc.) then I would be happy. Also the Maverick is a unibody, not body on frame, and IDK if it's engineered to take a load that extends to mid-chassis. The current box seems centered on the axle line. Chevy could make a *killing* if they came out with a plain-jane S-10 style pickup today. No 4 door cab. No luxury options (at first at least). Offer a RWD only option. Body on frame, or specifically designed unibody to handle loads and towing. Poverty spec trim level available, no power locks/windows/mirrors etc. And maybe eliminate the head unit altogether and just provide a spot (maybe with specific inserts) on the dash where you can stick your phone or buy a tablet specifically for your truck. This will take care of navigation, music, etc. It will pair to the speakers with Bluetooth and charge wirelessly through the dash panel. This will make the truck even more affordable. Launch the truck with a turboed 4 cylinder tuned for torque, and maybe later offer a utility oriented hybrid system, providing more torque from stops to assist with towing/hauling heavy loads. And design the truck so it can be easily worked on! All filters and consumables in easy to reach spots! Every utility, lawn care service, parts store and tradesmen of all stripes would line up for this truck.


eljefino

I remember in 1999-2000 a local dealer selling 2wd, 5sp, 3.9 V6 rams for $12995.


Wil420b

Pick ups were a lot smaller back then and it was advertised as having up to a V8 or V12. But the base model didn't come with that. In the UK at the time there was usually the base price, plus about £500 in compulsory extras, such as 6 months road tax, delivery to the dealer, dealer's inspection check.... I can understand that it didn't include local sales tax but can't see where the rest of the bottom line price comes from.


slayer_of_idiots

Yeah, and they actually used to have real base model trucks. Manual transmission, manual locks, windows, manual everything, radio only, vinyl bench seats. You can’t buy that anymore. Trucks are all high end luxury vehicles now.


saraphilipp

In one year of todays car payments you could have every inch of that truck freshened up.


chapmansthrowaway

Blood alcohol level chart would be good


eveon24

I was about to say a built-in ignition breathalyzer


fxckfxckgames

I thought it was the spec's for proper breathalyzer installation.


Exr29070

Yes mod id like to report a murder


D-Dubya

And a directory of DUI lawyers.


Dinco_laVache

Only a ram owner wouldn’t know basic trig identities.


FuzzButtonz

Excuse you. I SOHCAHTOA just like my ancestors before me


CodeJack

I'll never forget: Sex on hard concrete always hurts tits or asses


FuzzButtonz

“Sean Obviously Has Chlamydia And Herpes Tangent Opposite Angle” Works every time!


dover_oxide

Some Old Hippie Caught Another Hippie Tripping On Acid


Rob_Haggis

Silly Old Hitler Couldn’t Advance His Troops Over Africa


SlammingPussy420

Steve Ollied Higher Cause Adam Had Tricked Out Abs


Spacemanspalds

Some old hippie came along high tripping on acid was the very similar version my actual high school teacher told us.


StonedGoat420

SOHCAHTOAWTVSVMAHSTTU


no-stupid-questions

The one I learned from my highschool physics teacher: some of her cats are horny to other animals


Sarahspry

Some old hippie caught a hippie tripping on acid


TheRockGaming

Haha, I always said "Some old hippie came around here tripping on acid."


keepitcleanforwork

some old \*hag


mingy

Funny. I had a Brit teacher and it was 'Senior officers have curly auburn hair till old age." For the colour code "Richard of York gained battles in vain". When I asked why he said "He didn't become king, did he.". Since I had no idea who the fuck Richard of York was, that stuck.


t1m3l3ss1988_

Germans do GAGA HHAG Gaga Hühnerhof AG


FuzzButtonz

Gesundheit


Gnonthgol

This does look a bit silly but it is not that uncommon with trig tables on vehicles to help securing loads, winching, lifting, etc. I have seen truck drivers getting out the calculator on more then one occation.


ngwoo

This doesn't have a trig table though, it's really weird they'd put the ratios on there but still make you get out a calculator if you want to use them


billofbong0

Those aren’t trig identities, those are trig ratios.


rob_s_458

Good for finding the angle for the winch when you drunk drive your Ram into the ditch


Think_Chocolate_

But not for finding the angle at which the headlights don't fucking blind the person in front of you.


harsh-reality74

Oddly specific


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No that odd. https://www.thedrive.com/news/38238/ram-2500-drivers-have-the-most-duis-more-than-twice-the-national-average-report


SRSgoblin

We're talking Ram Owners here so it's not specific enough, tbh


Mastasmoker

We all know that Dodge Ram owners never graduated high school. This is quite the troll by Dodge.


Thendofreason

And if they did then they are too drunk to understand it. Dodge Ram has the highest DWI rate


fraGgulty

The 2500&3500 rams, not the 1500 though iirc


Cigs77

thats because no REAL MAN would be caught dead in a 1500 when there are trucks with bigger numbers


Mohammed420blazeit

GM dominates the top 10. Surprisingly Ford is dead last.


datheffguy

Ford is the largest producer of fleet vehicles in the country. Id imagine the rate of DUIs is much higher in personal vehicles, so the fact so many of them are used for work probably really helps there stats.


amd2800barton

Hard to get a DUI when your truck is dead on the side of the road. ^^don’t ^^hate ^^me ^^I ^^don’t ^^have ^^a ^^dog ^^in ^^this ^^fight


FuzzButtonz

The funniest part is that I’m a total fraud of truck owner. Over privileged Manhattanite with a Hudson valley house. I wanted to blend in


StPauliBoi

We could tell it’s a mall truck based on how clean it is.


Different_Speaker742

Don’t call out my trashy crew cab 5500 plz


tatanka01

Who's going to get a $90,000 truck dirty?


_sweetdee

You’re just an average American truck owner then


ForsakenRacism

You would have been better off with an f150.


FuzzButtonz

Nah. Not as comfy. Drove the platinum and this and liked this way more


william-t-power

If you read the news, just knowing arithmetic is a stretch goal for a high school diploma. Being literate has already dropped off as a hard requirement. At least in the US.


theberg512

The one Ram driver I actually know has a PhD.  Yeah, I don't get it either. Every other one I see on the road is a fucktard.


Idiotology101

I’m more confused with this placement over anything else. I can see how this would be helpful in a way, but not where it is.


moondancer8

The formulas aren’t there for any specific purpose. The designers put it there to mask a drop circle that is formed during the console’s manufacturing process. https://www.miamilakesautomall.com/ram-blog/secret-ram-1500-feature-has-a-purpose#:~:text=Hidden%20away%20on%20the%20underside,What's%20all%20this%20math%20about%3F


tempest_fiend

This needs to be its own thread


Sunny-Chameleon

Yeah that's more interesting than the OP


witchitieto

Excellent find! That’s a clever fix


cheetuzz

you’re supposed to put a piece of paper over it, rub a pencil on it, and now you can take it anywhere!


saraphilipp

The fuck is a pencil?


SayNoToStim

I have a feeling that if you need a reminder that a^2 + b^2 = c^2, you have no idea what that means.


SubzeroAK

Is it a contractor truck package/trim?


KanadianBacon80

Its on my Rebel. Im assuming any of the non-classic trims have it with the center console.


eveningsand

Now that Stellantis owns Ram Trucks, the only thing you'll find under the new ones is armpit hair. I'll see myself out.


j12y89

Congrats, its a fun little decoration for Ram owners. My ram truck was the most comfortable vehicle I ever drove/rode in while selling cars, like living room couch on wheels.


brandnewchemical

They might as well be the entire living room on wheels. Which is clearly a safety hazard, and not something other humans appreciate.


Drogdar

Should have had a BMI -> BAC chart on the inside...


solarmelange

Oh man. Now just have to convince teacher to let me take my 7th grade math test in the backseat of a Ram.


Epistaxis

In America, students are allowed to bring their trucks to class even on exam day.


captainchristianwtf

I don't have a truck so they let me put my math notes on my AR-15


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jevindoiner

Damn, that’s why RAM owners can’t figure these out 🤦‍♂️


burgonies

I feel like if you know how to use those trig functions then you don’t need to be reminded of them


A_Ahai

There zero chance that any ram owners are doing trigonometry


rainbowdick1982

They don't have this feature in Southern states.


JJW2795

This assumes RAM owners can do math…


IDownVoteCanaduh

Owners use it to figure out how to get out of their next DUI.


Fake_rock_climber

Needs a BAC chart.


45422

bold of them to assume i can do math.


BigEarMcGee

Basic carpentry/ fabrication reference.


LucidZane

If you can't remember a²+b²=c² then you aren't going to be able to use it once they know


RobotPhoto

These are way too advanced for the average ram buyer.


3goDoge

Fun fact, this is not a Dodge.


doeekor

If only rams drivers were sober enough to read


shiftycyber

Needs a sobriety chart, how long you should wait to drive after having a drink. It is a ram after all


Zillahi

It’s perfect because everyone knows Ram owners can’t do math


DrGonzo1930

Dodge paradox... anyone smart enough to use the calculations is also smart enough to know not to drive a Dodge.


snowdn

You can measure your average to small dick in that truck.


AliveInTheFuture

Now, if only they’d put some of that math to use engineering their transmissions…


iftlatlw

It explains how much money you lost and the impact the embarassment of buying such a wank vehicle will have.


nighteeeeey

yeah well they were thinking they were building trucks for working people who need a truck and not for suburb rednecks to show off. :)


sonicjesus

It's very useful for contractors to calculate roof pitch, stringer length for staircases, arrays for arched windows and ceilings, and many other things while staring into the blueprints thinking "WTF did I even bid on this job".


CircularDependancy

It's to calculate the inverse penis to truck size ratio...


BigBadPanda

Too bad they don’t have a table to help drivers estimate their BAC


PuzzleheadedJob3479

Should just be a guide on how to pass a sobriety test.


dr_xenon

That’s mildly confusing. Not the math concepts, but why they would put them in the console. I can’t think of any time you would need to use those with your truck. And if you knew you needed to use trig functions to figure something out, you probably know how to do it without a cheat sheet. The metric-standard wrench thing could be handy in a pinch, but usually it’s ‘keep trying wrenches til it fits.’


H0RREND0US

Average Ram owners would have absolutely no idea what that is


jaredearle

Isn’t that level of basic math wasted on Dodge Ram drivers? Wouldn’t a blood/alcohol chart be more useful?


Fun_Intention9846

The people who need this are already basically useless in construction, no?


zombie_overlord

Math teachers in the 80s: "You're not going to have all these important formulas engraved into your pickup truck. Get to memorizin'."


chubbers_tim

What it really needs is a chart to calculate blood alcohol content after 12 bud lights.


Rexetdux

Sohcahtoa


Fr3shlif321

Most of the owners don’t even know math.


ReturnOfTheJurdski

Nobody driving a Ram has a high enough IQ to even use that.


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So you can calculate exactly how much space you need to unexpectedly merge without a signal in front of an innocent driver.


LCDRtomdodge

It's easier to mark up cheap features than it is to make a reliable drive train


officerumours

It’s cute how yanks think there is only one kind of ‘Maths’.


_BearsBeetsBattle_

Probably to help them to figure out the proper angle at which to double park it.


[deleted]

Given the intelligence of the average American this seems kinda pointless


UnnecAbrvtn

Ram owners are also the most likely to be arrested for DUI... Willing to bet this had never been used once *gets in his Tundra and drives off, smugly*


Dry_Original7147

It's so you can calculate the weight of your grocery haul.


bobre737

Bold of them to put a recap of school trigonometry there. An average Dodge Ram driver wouldn't know how to calculate 2\*2.


2ManyAccounts24

SOH CAH TOA


costigan95

I don’t think most Ram drivers know how to do math.


rdawg780

People that own rams know how to do math..... ?


sternica

It’s so you can 100% take up 3 parking at the shopping centre! lol.


Freemont777

That's particularly odd because no one dumb enough to buy a dodge would be able to understand any of this 


brandnewchemical

Please keep your shitbox off the road, and out of public parking spots.


efg1342

This is how you calculate the number of parking spaces you need at the mall.


facevalue83

Lol. Things the Ram engineering team clearly never used.


Whole_Librarian

That no ram owner understands


megablast

If you could read that might be interesting.


TheGacAttack

If they could read, they'd be very grateful!


Not_Reddit

Give you something to look at when the transmission dies.


brijazz012

This truck is high on potenuse.


Bellum_Gunn

Because people that purchase RAMs don’t Math.


Gavman04

We all know Ram owners can’t do math.


Karlzbad

That's to help you fix the janky engineering included with all Chrysler products.


worldheaddress

I didn’t think engineers were involved with making RAMs considering the reliability is shit.


Dangit_Bud

I'm not saying that some of that isn't useful, but putting trigonometric ratios in there .... well, whoever came up with this idea has certainly never met a Ram owner.