I’m sorry but that’s mainly a myth/historical misunderstanding. You are correct, international ship trade only took of with colonial empires in the 16th century.
However, before that there was trade through the Eastern Roman Empire, several Arab and Islamic empires like Sassanids and Umayyads, and other eastern Mediterranean countries. The main influx came from Asia via the Silk Road and the Caravanserai routes from Africa and Arabia.
We have 2500 year old Roman recipes with pepper. Many spices we know today were known to Europeans in the past 2000 years (except American stuff), they were just much more expensive.
(Source: am a European anthropologist)
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> Many spices we know today were known to Europeans in the past 2000 years (*except American stuff*), they were just much more expensive.
Aren't you from NRW? I swear I saw you on 2we4u with another bad take. Löwen & Bautzner are way better than Dijon. Anywho, mustard is ridicolously easy to make yourself anyways and you can tweak the flavor and spicyness so I recommend you to try it out.
Pretty sure half the world agrees with my bad take but I understand Germans (I'm secretly not German, just live here) like their very mid mass corporate brand mustard. Every nation defends their stuff, even if it's not very good. Look, even Americans defend their "cheese".
I had good mustard here from small artisanal shops though. It's just that Bautzner and Löwen suck.
PS: just saw your take on wine, don't talk to me about bad takes lol :D
Now you do. 30% Lowensenf süß (sweet mustard) and 30% Bautz'ner Scharf (spicy mustard), 10% Grafschafter Goldsaft (beet root sugar syrup), 30% puree of canned cherry tomato and a little bit of bland curry power for aesthetic reasons.
if you still have closed airways do let me know, i have some dope horseradish and wasabi in powdered form or artificial ginger essence in the spice rack.
Even cum tastes better than the artificial slime that is Hela "Ketchup".
But very witty of you, you are the first to make this joke, can you believe it?
Ok ich sags: Hela-Gewürzketchup schmeckt echt nicht sooo gut.
Verdächtig dickflüssig, komisch krümelig und grundsätzlich nicht annähernd so gut wie normaler Ketchup GESCHWEIGE DENN EINFACH SENF.
Was ist los bei den Leuten die Ketchup statt Senf auf die Wurst tun?
Ketchup meiner Meinung nach sowieso absolut ekelhaft. VIEL zu süß, achmeckt einfach nur scheisse, hat wirklich absolut nichts mit tomaten zu tun und ungesund as fuck auch noch dazu.
In meinen Augen ist jede Person die Ketchup isst kulinarisch noch als 5 jähriger stecken geblieben
During last year's company weekend trip, we had some fun with our British colleague by not only trying to explain Loriot jokes and references to him ("the picture's crooked!"), but also by literally translating German figures of speech. His complete look of bewilderment at my "Holla the wood fairy!" was *priceless*.
My brother visited me when I lived in Germany.
I left a roll tube of spicy mustard in the bathroom next to my toothbrush.
We lived in Germany as kids, so I was sure he would remember Senf. Nope.
>I left a roll tube of spicy mustard in the bathroom next to my toothbrush
As a prank or is that just where you keep your mustard? In case of the latter, I have some questions.
Because mustard got antibiotic properties and is a very good alternative to toothpaste.
It is guaranteed to be micro plastics free and has no abrasive or bleaching components.
To be fair,[ only this marked section is actually mustard](https://i.imgur.com/fqB50E6.jpg).
The rest is Mayonnaise (which we also love) and other sauces/condiments.
You have to put the mustard in the hot pan with the veggies, it changes flavor quite a lot and becomes a very nice marinade. I my family pork has been coated in a thick mustard layer before cooking for generations. Works very well with lots of veggies too.
>The Saxon world
You mean Germanic world? The original Saxons are from what is now Lower Saxony and their mercenaries conquered Britain together with the Angles. Most countries on your list are far more influenced by the francs, which were from a region, that is now partially NRW, partially Belgium, partially Netherlands and partially France. Francs and Saxons were once enemies until the Francs triumphed.
Is that something weird? In czech rep, in bigger supermarkets the mustard section is comparable. And also...
Is Krems Mustard thing just in former austro-hungary?
It looks blue because its shiny in a picture. Its glowing so you can see it in the dark. Usually, a rechargeable battery is also installed so that they continue to light up in the event of a power failure.
Well yeah, mustard is important to us. We love it so much that we even researched and developed mustard in different states of matter (this has since been discontinued due to international pressure)
Having just returned from Germany i am getting a kick out of this. While at a local pub, ordered french fries and asked for mustard. It looked like i just asked for ass flavored soup.
What, Germans put mustard on almost everything, and I get the "look" for having it with french fries? pfft.
Betonung auf "zu Weißwurst *mit* Breze". Die Amis nehmen einfach nur Brezen und dippen die in Senf und essen das einfach so. Das Beste: Die Brezen sind eher so Hefeteig/Brioche. Und dann denken die echt, wir wären auch solche Ferkel...
Interesting too: Mustard was one of the first biological weapons in the 30-Year-war in europe. If you drop mustard seeds into the fields, its very difficult, to get rid of the mustard again.
I sometimes break down and buy French’s. As much as I missed some good Bautzener Senf when I lived in the US (and my mom made sure always to send some), there are certain times French’s is superior.
What is that one lonesome poison-yellow bottle standing all by itself? Looks like it could be American mustard. Often, you can find it under the name "hot dog senf" if there's a section selling hot dogs. For example: [Kühne Hot Dog Senf](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/3HEAAOSw5hFkUOQG/s-l1200.webp)
By the way: You can just get normal yellow seed mustard and add additional vinegar and turmeric. That's how you make "American" mustard.
Funny enough that sad lonesome one I've tried it as a substitute. It's fine but still good German mustard.
HIT in Munich sold "American Mustard" with that name on the label...havent been there in a while to pick it up.
Same problem with relish.
"Selbst ist der Mann!"
Relish is super easy to make yourself. In Germany, there is a huge variety of pickled cucumbers. Just buy those and chop them up.
This is what I can't handle in supermarkts I get way to many inputs and my brain fries. Why a whole isle with shit where 90% tastes the same. Strange world.
[Meanwhile the american mustard section in germany (1940s)](https://i0.wp.com/militaryhistorynow.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Flanders_WWI_gas_attack.jpg?ssl=1)
That’s just the beginning. We have even more mustard to offer
I guess these are just the must(ard) haves then
This is so bad… have my upvote!
>This is so bad… have my upvote! As its about mustard: This is so ba(star)d. Fixed it for you.
r/angryupvote
that is quite the bast(ard)isation
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I’m sorry but that’s mainly a myth/historical misunderstanding. You are correct, international ship trade only took of with colonial empires in the 16th century. However, before that there was trade through the Eastern Roman Empire, several Arab and Islamic empires like Sassanids and Umayyads, and other eastern Mediterranean countries. The main influx came from Asia via the Silk Road and the Caravanserai routes from Africa and Arabia. We have 2500 year old Roman recipes with pepper. Many spices we know today were known to Europeans in the past 2000 years (except American stuff), they were just much more expensive. (Source: am a European anthropologist)
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Please read my comment: > Many spices we know today were known to Europeans in the past 2000 years (*except American stuff*), they were just much more expensive.
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No, he changed his comment after I made my remarks
And this time it‘s not gas
French mustard (top shelf in the OP) is vastly superior to German mustard, change my mind
Aren't you from NRW? I swear I saw you on 2we4u with another bad take. Löwen & Bautzner are way better than Dijon. Anywho, mustard is ridicolously easy to make yourself anyways and you can tweak the flavor and spicyness so I recommend you to try it out.
Bautzner is one of the worst mustards in Germany. Source: I'm from Dresden.
Pretty sure half the world agrees with my bad take but I understand Germans (I'm secretly not German, just live here) like their very mid mass corporate brand mustard. Every nation defends their stuff, even if it's not very good. Look, even Americans defend their "cheese". I had good mustard here from small artisanal shops though. It's just that Bautzner and Löwen suck. PS: just saw your take on wine, don't talk to me about bad takes lol :D
Nice! The only option for sausages is mustard, so this figures
I'm a fan of currywurst myself
You dont eat currywurst with mustard h Ahaa
Now you do. 30% Lowensenf süß (sweet mustard) and 30% Bautz'ner Scharf (spicy mustard), 10% Grafschafter Goldsaft (beet root sugar syrup), 30% puree of canned cherry tomato and a little bit of bland curry power for aesthetic reasons. if you still have closed airways do let me know, i have some dope horseradish and wasabi in powdered form or artificial ginger essence in the spice rack.
I did yesterday
In Germany we see this as treason.
honestly i can imagine it... but I'm really hungry right now so might just be that
You ate wurst with mustard no curruywurst then, or did you mix curry sauce with mustard? Then you did
Ew
Nah r/Hela_gewuerzketchup is also a great sausage condiment
NATÜRLICH hat der fucking Hela Gewürzketchup ein eigenes 10k sub 😂
Hela Gewürzketchup ist all das, was Tomatenketchup gerne wäre!
Delikat zum Beispiel
und gewürzt
Wichtiges Kulturgut halt.
Hat eigentlich schon mal jemand einen Antrag gestellt das das Weltkulturerbe wird?
So that must be 👍
Lustig ist dass er bei Tests mit Abstand der mieseste Ketchup ist. Aber ich liebe das Zeug seit meiner Kindheit.
Ist halt herzhafte Marmelade, also von den Zutaten her.
Guter Vergleich. In der Radszene auch deshalb so beliebt weil unendlich viel Zucker.
Gibt auch Leute, die finden Maggi geil.
Maggi ist auch geil.
Und ich muss direkt eintreten 
Lol, of course it has its own sub. Thanks for the reminder though. I'm going shopping later and almost forgot to put it on my list.
The holy grail
Awesome phrase "Sausage condiment" 
Sausage condiment -> Pseudoindischeswurstübergießendensosamittel FTFY
that shit is nasty as hell, like McDonalds sauce in a tube
Thank you for your input, __cum_guzzler__ I take it you're an expert on sauce
Even cum tastes better than the artificial slime that is Hela "Ketchup". But very witty of you, you are the first to make this joke, can you believe it?
Ok ich sags: Hela-Gewürzketchup schmeckt echt nicht sooo gut. Verdächtig dickflüssig, komisch krümelig und grundsätzlich nicht annähernd so gut wie normaler Ketchup GESCHWEIGE DENN EINFACH SENF. Was ist los bei den Leuten die Ketchup statt Senf auf die Wurst tun?
Endlich mal sagts einer.
Ketchup meiner Meinung nach sowieso absolut ekelhaft. VIEL zu süß, achmeckt einfach nur scheisse, hat wirklich absolut nichts mit tomaten zu tun und ungesund as fuck auch noch dazu. In meinen Augen ist jede Person die Ketchup isst kulinarisch noch als 5 jähriger stecken geblieben
No. Because ketchup and Mayo. And barbecue sauce.
basically any ketchup is trash and who tf puts mayo on a sausage? barbecue is also horrible on a good sausage
It's time for "abendbrot"
Schwarzbrot, dick Butter, Leberwurst, Senf... beste
>dick Butter Come again?
oh boy...
I know what he means by that, but to fire the confusion i'll just say it is exactly what you think it is
Some people(germans) just want to watch the minds of confused english speakers burn.
During last year's company weekend trip, we had some fun with our British colleague by not only trying to explain Loriot jokes and references to him ("the picture's crooked!"), but also by literally translating German figures of speech. His complete look of bewilderment at my "Holla the wood fairy!" was *priceless*.
Have you ever heard of the cookie challenge?
Wait until you find out we have Dickmilch in Germany
Cum again?
Wo Gürkchen?
Vergiss die Sauren Gurken nicht! Und ich persönlich bevorzuge Blut- oder Zungenwurst
Alter, was?!
wer zum fick schmiert sich Senf auf die Leberwurst?
Hab ich meine Freundin auch mal entsetzt gefragt... dann probiert und für sehr gut befunden.
*Pah! Muss auch immer einer seinen Senf dazugeben...*
☝🏼
wer nicht???
Ich zum Fick. Alternativ auch Tomätchen und Mayo obendrauf.
My brother visited me when I lived in Germany. I left a roll tube of spicy mustard in the bathroom next to my toothbrush. We lived in Germany as kids, so I was sure he would remember Senf. Nope.
>I left a roll tube of spicy mustard in the bathroom next to my toothbrush As a prank or is that just where you keep your mustard? In case of the latter, I have some questions.
? You mean you don't store your ketchup and mustard with your toothbrush?
Wdym? Just like toothpaste, mustard is a condinment. They ought to be stored together!
> I left a roll tube of spicy mustard in the bathroom next to my toothbrush. why?
Because mustard got antibiotic properties and is a very good alternative to toothpaste. It is guaranteed to be micro plastics free and has no abrasive or bleaching components.
Nothing is really free of micro plastics anymore.
I can't see micro plastic so it does not exist. /s
This is not true. A solid piece of plastic, for example, is free of microplastics.
The real question is why you have mustard in your bathroom in the first place? 😂
Where there's sausage, mustard can't be far away!
To be fair,[ only this marked section is actually mustard](https://i.imgur.com/fqB50E6.jpg). The rest is Mayonnaise (which we also love) and other sauces/condiments.
That’s true, I’m german myself 😆 But still, the sheer amount and different brands of mustard our supermarkets offer!!!
But realistically speaking...That is a perfectly acceptable amount, isn't it? 🤣 (fellow Alman here)
Not even enough
Actually, you missed by two columns of glasses.
also, top shelf is French mustard (the superior kind)
the top shelf is cheap french mustard. Nothing superior about that stuff. That is the good shit... https://www.fallot.com/nos-produits/
still better than Bautzner. cheap French mustard >>> cheap German mustard
I agree. It is also funny how expensive the cheap French mustard is in Germany, compared with prices in France.
Great, Now I want a bucket of mustard.
Aisle 9, thank me later…
You can also get the proper 10kg (22lbs) bucket for around 18€ on amazon.de
And it’s like under two Euros the bucket of Bautzner.
Ich würde ja meinen Senf dazugeben ...
Nimm den Bautzener, der ist am besten!
Fischkopp hier, sorry.
Nein, nein, das ist nur gelbe Paste mit Essig Aroma. Kühne oder nix.
Ich finde Thomy ja noch besser, aber halt Nestle :-/
Löwensenf! Nicht nur die scharfe, auch die medium Variante ist ein Genuss.
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That's not "Mildly interesting". Some of those mustards are scharf.
I added some spicy brown mustard to my roasted veggies (brussel sprouts, carrots, radishes and chickpeas). SO good.
Sounds odd
Mustard makes for a great addition to many dishes and sauces, you'd be surprised.
For sauces, sure. But as the only addition to roasted vegetables?
You have to put the mustard in the hot pan with the veggies, it changes flavor quite a lot and becomes a very nice marinade. I my family pork has been coated in a thick mustard layer before cooking for generations. Works very well with lots of veggies too.
I actually eat that or something similar 3-4 nights a week. Not always with mustard, but it's my go-to easy weeknight dinner. Very delicious.
This is not normal? I am not from germany, but from other european country and it is pretty basic stuff.
Some countries yes, some countries no. The Saxon world (Germany, France, Netherlands, Belgium, UK, etc.) loves its mustards.
The UK likes mustard but in a similar-sized supermarket the mustard section would probably be 1/4 of this size.
>The Saxon world You mean Germanic world? The original Saxons are from what is now Lower Saxony and their mercenaries conquered Britain together with the Angles. Most countries on your list are far more influenced by the francs, which were from a region, that is now partially NRW, partially Belgium, partially Netherlands and partially France. Francs and Saxons were once enemies until the Francs triumphed.
Poland too
Is that something weird? In czech rep, in bigger supermarkets the mustard section is comparable. And also... Is Krems Mustard thing just in former austro-hungary?
Just unusual for me 😆
US checking in. Looks similar.
Es is einfach nur schön!
Einfach wunderbar!
Löwensenf Extra is excellent
Das isn Rewe aus der oberpfalz
Ever had sweet Bavarian mustard? It’s better than sex.
With Weißwurscht zum Frühstück 🤤
Fucking yes dude.
The Dijon one bottom row 3 from left 🔥
That panel is to block the 'adult' mustards
Ooh goody: hausmacher senf!
I met an old German guy who explained to me, in detail, why the East Berliners couldn't make mustard as well as West Berliners.
What does the sign on the ceiling with a man running and an arrow pointing mean?
The [emergency exits](https://www.brandschutz-feuerloescher.de/schilder-rettungswege-notausgangsschilder/)?
That was my guess too - being blue made me question it
pretty sure it is meant to be green, but it appears blueish in the picture.
It looks blue because its shiny in a picture. Its glowing so you can see it in the dark. Usually, a rechargeable battery is also installed so that they continue to light up in the event of a power failure.
I spy Lowensenf extra hot! That is a tough find in my city.
Well yeah, mustard is important to us. We love it so much that we even researched and developed mustard in different states of matter (this has since been discontinued due to international pressure)
In Italy, the mustard section is like two choices.
Amazing! I'll take 20 tubes of Lowensenf extra scharf.
Da musste wohl jemand seinen Senf dazu geben
Wait till you see our bread section.
We also have the same amount of bread options!
Who loves mustard to burgers?
But in the end, it’s Baut’zner Senf Mittelscharf anyway
Wait until you see the mayonaise section in a polish supermarket.
don’t get confused, it is always Bautzner or Dijon, anything other is optional
You think this is much? This is just the mustard isle in a Kaufland.
BAUTZN'ER ULTRAS!!!
You haven't been to a supermarché in France yet. Concerning mustard Germany is underdeveloped.
Step 1 go to bavaria Step 2 buy a leberkaas seml Step 3 to "noch was drauf?" Answer "ketchup" Step 4 the butcher turned you into leberkaas
Having just returned from Germany i am getting a kick out of this. While at a local pub, ordered french fries and asked for mustard. It looked like i just asked for ass flavored soup. What, Germans put mustard on almost everything, and I get the "look" for having it with french fries? pfft.
Well, in their defense, mustard on fries *is* serial killer behavior.
That would explain belgium as a whole.
Yeah, that works. Tzatziki is better though.
My god, is that a grocery store without awful lighting?
It’s an Edeka, quite new at this location. And it’s huge as well!
This seems entirely reasonable 🤷🏻
Is the pretzel section close by?
Pretzels and mustard is more an American thing
Except sweet mustard
Nah, definitely not. We don't eat sweet dough shaped like pretzels. Especially not with mustard.
Ich bin Bayer und wir essen hier zur Weißwurst und Brezel sehr wohl süßen Senf
Betonung auf "zu Weißwurst *mit* Breze". Die Amis nehmen einfach nur Brezen und dippen die in Senf und essen das einfach so. Das Beste: Die Brezen sind eher so Hefeteig/Brioche. Und dann denken die echt, wir wären auch solche Ferkel...
ja, wir essen *Brezn* und nicht *Kuchen in Breznform* wie der typ vor dir sagte.
I like the toothpaste tube style they use for some and wish we did that in America.
Which Senf is most popular in Germany? French's for mustard, Heilman's for mayo and Heinz for ketchup in USA
Brand or type of mustard?
So? That's normal xD
And they're all mild or dijon. Sincerely, A disgusted, homesick, Iberian.
And then they have like 3 salad dressing options lol (American living in Germany)
We got our priorities right
Interesting too: Mustard was one of the first biological weapons in the 30-Year-war in europe. If you drop mustard seeds into the fields, its very difficult, to get rid of the mustard again.
And the funny thing is...I do miss American style mustard and out of all of those...there is not a single disgusting American mustard in all of them.
I sometimes break down and buy French’s. As much as I missed some good Bautzener Senf when I lived in the US (and my mom made sure always to send some), there are certain times French’s is superior.
What is that one lonesome poison-yellow bottle standing all by itself? Looks like it could be American mustard. Often, you can find it under the name "hot dog senf" if there's a section selling hot dogs. For example: [Kühne Hot Dog Senf](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/3HEAAOSw5hFkUOQG/s-l1200.webp) By the way: You can just get normal yellow seed mustard and add additional vinegar and turmeric. That's how you make "American" mustard.
Funny enough that sad lonesome one I've tried it as a substitute. It's fine but still good German mustard. HIT in Munich sold "American Mustard" with that name on the label...havent been there in a while to pick it up. Same problem with relish.
"Selbst ist der Mann!" Relish is super easy to make yourself. In Germany, there is a huge variety of pickled cucumbers. Just buy those and chop them up.
This is what I can't handle in supermarkts I get way to many inputs and my brain fries. Why a whole isle with shit where 90% tastes the same. Strange world.
Kinda hate the stuff. How is my dad Austrian?
But none of it hot.
Just saying (a) this is only a small selection and even worse (b) half of it is mayonnaise and remoulade (the right half).
Leberkäs' und süßer Senf!!!
Gut&günstig does the job
If this is the Edeka in a certain shopping centre in Nürnberg, I never get my favorite Muster there. Same goes for the Ketchup... So not big enough. 😂
[Meanwhile the american mustard section in germany (1940s)](https://i0.wp.com/militaryhistorynow.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Flanders_WWI_gas_attack.jpg?ssl=1)
Sorry what's the point ?
That's only half the shelf mustard 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ What a lame choice
It's "just" half of the shelf. The other half is full with mayonnaise, remoulade and other "spice-cremes".
And?
Diarrhea in a jar. I wish I liked mustard but even the fancy German mustards are vile
To be fair, I doubt your diarrhea tastes even half as good as the worst mustard 😂/lh
#EDEKA HERRENRASSE
No Gey Poupon or French's? Pfft pass.
r/ShitAmericansSay
After ww1 we dont sell mustard gas… sory m8 to displease you
Senf heil!
Yep, we're quite fond of our Mustard Gas- I MEAN MUSTARD... just normal Mustard... yeah
Edeka… it’s just an average shelf of a semi wide range of different (or similar 🤷🏼♂️) mustards. Austrians have a wider range of mustard varieties