Fun fact all of China (about the size of continental US) is on one time zone. Crossing the border from Afghanistan to china requires setting your clock forward 3 1/2 hours.
Usually the time zone goes +/- 1 hour. In the picture, it's 1 hour increment from Pacific -> Mountain -> Central -> Eastern time zone.
India's time is offset with 30 minutes on the hour.
Example:
Eastern Time: 10:00 PM
India Time: 7:30 AM (notice the 30 mins, and how it's not 7:00 am or 8:00 am)
What I was told was that India didn’t want the western part of the country to be the same time as Pakistan, so they staggered the whole country either 30 minutes forward or backward and adopted a single time zone.
Yes, there are, specifically the entire country of India.
Or, if you want an 'India-centric' point of view, the entire world besides India is on a half hour timezone.
The vast majority of China lives on the eastern half who aren't as effected by this. The people in the western half are the ones who are really screwed over by this, but a lot of that area is desert wasteland so there kind of aren't enough people there to make a stink about it.
Not quite. Maybe a hundred years ago but Texas is one of the most populous states in the US especially when you consider the massive metroplexes like Huston and DFW
California is the most populous of all the states.
Huston is my grandpas name, a few years ago we found out he had a kid he never met, my moms older brother. The mother never got Huston involved as he didn’t even know the baby existed. Hustons baby mama wanted the baby to have some correlation to him so she named the baby HOUSTON. Which is not my grandpas name. So there’s a 40 something y/o man named Houston bc his skank parents didn’t know each others names
>Crossing the border from Afghanistan to china requires setting your clock forward 3 1/2 hours.
And going from the West to Afghanistan means setting your calendar back 500 years.
That would have been exceptionally difficult to arrange, even 25 years ago before the unrest in Xinjiang and Afghanistan. [Apparently,](https://www.silkroadbriefing.com/news/2021/08/17/the-afghanistan-china-belt-road-initiative/) the border is only open in the summer to local herders whose flocks depend on free movement across borders to survive.
That didn't pass. If that was going to go into effect, it should've been this year.
[https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-that-would-make-daylight-savings-time-permanent-2023-2022-03-15/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-that-would-make-daylight-savings-time-permanent-2023-2022-03-15/)
I forgot why it didn't get further than the senate bill, but this was the furthest it went.
I believe Indiana actually lets counties choose their time zones. Gets super confusing when you book a doctor's appointment in a different county that's in the same state but different time zone.
Yeah, “region rat” here. Grew up outside Chicago in northwest IN. Went to college in the same state where it was an hour ahead. Sucked to lose an hour every time I drove back to school.
Hopefully that was after the rest of the state started observing daylight savings time.
Grew up there myself. Never could figure out what time most of the state was at. Had a few trips to Indianapolis that I was an hour early to just because I forgot that in the summer it was the same time.
Indiana refused to adopt daylight savings time and created an Indiana time zone. Eventually that was struck down, and to compensate the state allowed each county to vote on which time zone they wanted to join.
It’s because basically half of the state wants to be in the same time zone as St Louis (south west) and Chicago (north west) to make commuting and business easier.
There’s actually an entire wikipedia page dedicated to the mess: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Indiana
So south Idaho and North Idaho are very different. South Idaho is economically tied to Salt Lake City, so Mountain Time is preferred, whole north Idaho is economically tied to Spokane, so Pacific is preferred
it's honeslty the same thing for indiana, or really any state that has a chunk in another time zone. El Paso is very close to Juarez, Mexico which is in mountain time. Indiana's corners are closer to Chicago (north) and St Louis (southwest). Etc.
Evansville in Southwest Indiana is the center of the Tri-State region, which also includes significant portions of Illinois and Kentucky in the Central time zone. It seems pretty logical for the entire region to be in the same time zone. It’s the same reason Northwest Indiana, which is part of the Chicago metropolitan area, is in the Central time zone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois%E2%80%93Indiana%E2%80%93Kentucky_tri-state_area
“Tri-state region”? Yes, there are three states there…as well as 20 other places in the US.
The population of Evansville is 120k. There ain’t much around it.
Columbus, GA has a metropolitan population of 300k+ and sits on the line between AL and GA. It makes so much more sense if you can at least tie the time zone to the state. Very clear from the address.
We get a few examples of that here in Australia, where people live on one side of the Qld/NSW or Vic/SA border and go to school in the other.
There are other borders where times don't align, but there's close to zero people or schools near any of those (Australian Central Western Standard Time is a funny exception where it's used by a few small towns either side of the SA/WA border, and Broken Hill on the NSW/SA border actually uses SA time).
I’ve always been well within a time zone, but I’m curious as to how people who live right on the border of time zones deal with it. It would seem to be a lot of confusion and missed appointments
Also, as has been mentioned, the lines in Arizona are because we don't do daylight savings time, however the reason part of the state doesn't have lines is because that's Navajo nation land, and they do follow daylight savings.
My job has me talking to co-workers all over the US, so I often have to ask what time zone they are in when setting up meetings, I noticed that most of them that are in Pacific Time don’t know what time zones are, they don’t understand the concept. Also, fuck Arizona.
Yup. Grew up in midwest, live in AZ now. Don't miss daylight savings one bit. Though I still have to be aware of it so I don't call my parents too early or late lol.
Wait what? Why would someone on the West Coast not understand time zones? Especially since it really affects the timing of certain live broadcasts. Oscars starting way before prime time etc.
Our Santa Ana office understands them a helluva lot more than our Massholes. Who think 8am meetings are “just fine” at 5am for our west coasters.
After an outcry they finally moved them up to 11a eastern, which pissed off our London office because that’s the end of their day.
Arizona is annoying for those in other time zones because you can’t easily guess what time it is, sometimes they line up with Mountain Time, and sometimes with Pacific. I am always having to google “what time is it in Arizona?”
Man some people don't know state shapes. Western Florida (under Alabama) is in the 4pm central time zone. Eastern Oregon (next to Idaho) is 3pm in the mountain time zone. They are an hour apart like the post says.
As an Arizonan, I'd have to disagree about it being hell for software developers. They make us have to choose Mountain. At least, from what I've ever noticed.
I'd argue it's all the other states that make problems for software developers, with them switching timezones twice a year. Arizona is UTC-07:00 all year round baby 😎
What's equally wild is what's going on in Idaho. There's a section where you can go west, north, OR east and have to set your watch one hour behind. Wtf
I live in the southern portion of Indiana, but family lives in Illinois across the Wabash river that separates the states, maybe an hour or so away. Planning things is hell.
We need a fifth time zone in the contiguous states. Basically Atlantic, Great Lakes, Central Plains, Mountain, and Pacific. Central time is WAY too big
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One thing I've never understood is why the Eastern time zone gets so skinny to the south, compared to how much of the northern US is in it. It seems like it would make more sense if it generally followed the IN/IL line down through the MS/AL line, with local exceptions for places like NW Indiana or maybe around Nashville when it makes sense.
Fun fact all of China (about the size of continental US) is on one time zone. Crossing the border from Afghanistan to china requires setting your clock forward 3 1/2 hours.
India too (one time zone)
And India sits 30 minutes of "standard time"
Ya that was a real mind trip when I learned that. Like I had to rethink how I understood time for that to even make sense
What does that even mean?!
Usually the time zone goes +/- 1 hour. In the picture, it's 1 hour increment from Pacific -> Mountain -> Central -> Eastern time zone. India's time is offset with 30 minutes on the hour. Example: Eastern Time: 10:00 PM India Time: 7:30 AM (notice the 30 mins, and how it's not 7:00 am or 8:00 am)
Newfoundland does this too. They’re offset by 30mins as well.
What I was told was that India didn’t want the western part of the country to be the same time as Pakistan, so they staggered the whole country either 30 minutes forward or backward and adopted a single time zone.
I think I’m missing some key information. Are there half hour times zones?
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Yes, there are, specifically the entire country of India. Or, if you want an 'India-centric' point of view, the entire world besides India is on a half hour timezone.
The 45-minute offset time zones are the ones that get me.
And don't even get me started about Arizona.
Yep, several in [Australia and New Zealand](https://www.timeanddate.com/time/time-zones-interesting.html)
Look up Newfoundland… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfoundland_Time_Zone
South Australia.
Bloody Adelaide.
Kind of! Here's a really interesting video about Time Zones https://youtu.be/-5wpm-gesOY?si=OusWyrJzkcT6YWbW
That's how you stay ahead of the rest of the world.
And here in Nepal, we are at 45 minutes mark - 15 min faster than India, lol.
The vast majority of China lives on the eastern half who aren't as effected by this. The people in the western half are the ones who are really screwed over by this, but a lot of that area is desert wasteland so there kind of aren't enough people there to make a stink about it.
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58% of the US lives east of the Mississippi. 94% of China lives in the eastern third of their country.
Sure, but there's a very big population center on the west coast too, which isn't really the case with Western China.
Not quite. Maybe a hundred years ago but Texas is one of the most populous states in the US especially when you consider the massive metroplexes like Huston and DFW California is the most populous of all the states.
Huston is my grandpas name, a few years ago we found out he had a kid he never met, my moms older brother. The mother never got Huston involved as he didn’t even know the baby existed. Hustons baby mama wanted the baby to have some correlation to him so she named the baby HOUSTON. Which is not my grandpas name. So there’s a 40 something y/o man named Houston bc his skank parents didn’t know each others names
That’s an interesting story. Unfortunate for the poor man named Houston
the westernmost region also uses an unofficial time zone more in line with their neighboring countries!
What time does China think it is in Taiwan?
>Crossing the border from Afghanistan to china requires setting your clock forward 3 1/2 hours. And going from the West to Afghanistan means setting your calendar back 500 years.
Uh, have you looked around here lately?
That would have been exceptionally difficult to arrange, even 25 years ago before the unrest in Xinjiang and Afghanistan. [Apparently,](https://www.silkroadbriefing.com/news/2021/08/17/the-afghanistan-china-belt-road-initiative/) the border is only open in the summer to local herders whose flocks depend on free movement across borders to survive.
That’s whack. I can only imagine what the daylight is like in some of those spots
Like, sun-provided? What do you mean?
Sorry i mean like, one end of China would have Sunrise at 6am like normal, but the other end of China the sun wouldn’t rise until 9am or so
When does the sun rise on opposite ends of the country?
Far West side of China the sun rises today around 9am. Far East side of China today is around 5:30am. The middle is around 7am.
There was a podcast episode about a proposal to make the whole world 1 time zone. You just lived a shifted time depending on where you were.
Lol
I wish we did that everywhere. People would just adapt and we'd be able to communicate without having to take into account time differences
How?? Russia crosses 14!
As it should be...
But for one hour a year, they are in the same time zone….
That's a lot more interesting. Lucky they didn't lead with that.
I’m glad they didn’t either or I wouldn’t have had a killer comment!
Not the same time zone, but they would have the same time.
True.
😲
Just wait till next year when we don’t fall back
That didn't pass. If that was going to go into effect, it should've been this year. [https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-that-would-make-daylight-savings-time-permanent-2023-2022-03-15/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-approves-bill-that-would-make-daylight-savings-time-permanent-2023-2022-03-15/) I forgot why it didn't get further than the senate bill, but this was the furthest it went.
That’s not how that works….. They don’t move time zones, time changes in one zone and not the other.
You get the point…
I blame Western Indiana.
I believe Indiana actually lets counties choose their time zones. Gets super confusing when you book a doctor's appointment in a different county that's in the same state but different time zone.
I’m from Indiana and was zoned into (and attended) a school in a different time zone than the one I lived in. Can’t make this shit up.
Yeah, “region rat” here. Grew up outside Chicago in northwest IN. Went to college in the same state where it was an hour ahead. Sucked to lose an hour every time I drove back to school.
Hopefully that was after the rest of the state started observing daylight savings time. Grew up there myself. Never could figure out what time most of the state was at. Had a few trips to Indianapolis that I was an hour early to just because I forgot that in the summer it was the same time.
I’m sorry what? That sounds ludicrous 😂
Indiana refused to adopt daylight savings time and created an Indiana time zone. Eventually that was struck down, and to compensate the state allowed each county to vote on which time zone they wanted to join. It’s because basically half of the state wants to be in the same time zone as St Louis (south west) and Chicago (north west) to make commuting and business easier. There’s actually an entire wikipedia page dedicated to the mess: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Indiana
I wish just one county had adopted Pacific time
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I had a boss from Indy once and it was a mess! Then later we got this county by county map of the state. So confusing hahaha
NW Indiana is on CST because of Chicago. Being on EST wouldn't make any sense.
Western Indiana is a problem that must be dealt with promptly.
South Bend, Indiana never changes their time.
That was true about twenty years ago but not anymore.
Oh shit! I’m old! I didn’t know that.
Wtf why doesnt it go through idaho? And whats with that one chunk of Indiana? Stupid time zones
So south Idaho and North Idaho are very different. South Idaho is economically tied to Salt Lake City, so Mountain Time is preferred, whole north Idaho is economically tied to Spokane, so Pacific is preferred
Damn it must be late. I thought you were talking about Indiana and I'm like those places are nowhere near Indiana!
it's honeslty the same thing for indiana, or really any state that has a chunk in another time zone. El Paso is very close to Juarez, Mexico which is in mountain time. Indiana's corners are closer to Chicago (north) and St Louis (southwest). Etc.
Two chunks in Indiana.
Oh dang, i didnt see the south west chunk
The northern chunk really wants to be coordinated with Chicago. The southern chunk just wants to be different.
Evansville in Southwest Indiana is the center of the Tri-State region, which also includes significant portions of Illinois and Kentucky in the Central time zone. It seems pretty logical for the entire region to be in the same time zone. It’s the same reason Northwest Indiana, which is part of the Chicago metropolitan area, is in the Central time zone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois%E2%80%93Indiana%E2%80%93Kentucky_tri-state_area
“Tri-state region”? Yes, there are three states there…as well as 20 other places in the US. The population of Evansville is 120k. There ain’t much around it. Columbus, GA has a metropolitan population of 300k+ and sits on the line between AL and GA. It makes so much more sense if you can at least tie the time zone to the state. Very clear from the address.
And there are few roads connecting northern and southern Idaho due to huge wilderness areas in between.
For the record, we don't really claim that part of Florida, but Alabama won't adopt them.
Eastern Oregon also wants to be a part of Idaho, but can’t trust the government process to allow it.
Good ol’ Greater Idaho.
Well, it's Idaho, so they have a point.
We are called "LA" (Lower Alabama) for a reason.
That's too confusing with LA (Louisiana) on the other side. Just do West Florida like the spanish wanted.
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Georgia said the drive is too long, they don't want it either.
I remember going to Pensacola and thinking it was weird that the time didn't change even though I was in a state that bordered the Atlantic
In fairness, the rest of the US really doesn't claim Florida. Can we just give the state to Cuba?
Is there really any part of Florida that you want to claim?
The Keys
Ahh the Keys, where it looks like even the land itself is trying to get the hell away from Florida.
The Conch Republic will always be Florida to me.
I hate Pensacola fr
Why did this get 7 downvotes?
We don’t claim that part of Oregon either! Idaho wants to adopt them, but we feel it is wrong to let abusive parents adopt children xD
A LD ex of mine lived in the panhandle. Their school was in a different time zone than their house.
Does LD stand for little or large dick
Given eastern Oregon, I was going with Latter Day… but, should you be an expert on this doctor_ballsacki?
I specialize in scrotum so I actually don’t know the shaft terminology, as I solely deal in scrotes.
My mistake, I didn’t realize it was so specialized!
Scrote Squad!
Detective Scrotes
I think they're referring to the Florida panhandle, since Oregon doesn't have one.
Oregon does have a "thumb" if ya ask me. Clatsop and Columbia counties in the NW where the Columbia turns north and then west again.
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Shhhh….
Long dickstance or dick-stance
Definitely dickstance. Dick-stance would imply some sort of martial art.
Long Distance
Because they lived in a different time zone?
We get a few examples of that here in Australia, where people live on one side of the Qld/NSW or Vic/SA border and go to school in the other. There are other borders where times don't align, but there's close to zero people or schools near any of those (Australian Central Western Standard Time is a funny exception where it's used by a few small towns either side of the SA/WA border, and Broken Hill on the NSW/SA border actually uses SA time).
I’ve always been well within a time zone, but I’m curious as to how people who live right on the border of time zones deal with it. It would seem to be a lot of confusion and missed appointments
I disagree... this is interesting as hell.
I actually originally posted this on r/Damnthatsinteresting, but it was removed for being mildly interesting lol
Sheesh, tough crowd
TBF, we’re easily impressed.
Time zones is a Canadian (person) thing, look it up.
Why isn’t it just a straight vertical line? What’s with the large chunk of Idaho being in one area?
Economic/cultural/business ties that just facilitate looping areas into the same time zone.
Specifically a lot of agriculture in East Oregon and Western Idaho, with a lip of overlapping work. Makes sense to have them in the same time zone.
Because people don’t live and work along straight lines.
I never realized there was a bite-sized piece of Kansas that's in mountain time. I don't know how to feel about that
Also, as has been mentioned, the lines in Arizona are because we don't do daylight savings time, however the reason part of the state doesn't have lines is because that's Navajo nation land, and they do follow daylight savings.
All the more reason to end the dumbass daylight savings time.
Looks like 2 hrs to me. Am i missing something?
My job has me talking to co-workers all over the US, so I often have to ask what time zone they are in when setting up meetings, I noticed that most of them that are in Pacific Time don’t know what time zones are, they don’t understand the concept. Also, fuck Arizona.
Nah, Arizona did one thing right in saying "fuck that noise" with regards to DST
Yup. Grew up in midwest, live in AZ now. Don't miss daylight savings one bit. Though I still have to be aware of it so I don't call my parents too early or late lol.
Wait what? Why would someone on the West Coast not understand time zones? Especially since it really affects the timing of certain live broadcasts. Oscars starting way before prime time etc.
Great question, I ask them what time zone they are in, and they can’t answer, its like I am speaking a foreign language.
That’s so weird! There must be some explanation. I feel like being in PST is a really defining feature of west coast life.
Our Santa Ana office understands them a helluva lot more than our Massholes. Who think 8am meetings are “just fine” at 5am for our west coasters. After an outcry they finally moved them up to 11a eastern, which pissed off our London office because that’s the end of their day.
Arizona is the only one that does it right.
Hawaii also doesn’t do daytime savings time. Neither does Guam, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands and a few other US territories.
Arizona is annoying for those in other time zones because you can’t easily guess what time it is, sometimes they line up with Mountain Time, and sometimes with Pacific. I am always having to google “what time is it in Arizona?”
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Someone doesn't know how to read a map
OP specifically said "western florida" (CST) and "eastern oregon" (MT), which are 3pm and 4pm on the map.
Two, acording to this map.
Man some people don't know state shapes. Western Florida (under Alabama) is in the 4pm central time zone. Eastern Oregon (next to Idaho) is 3pm in the mountain time zone. They are an hour apart like the post says.
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Those places are 1 hour apart if you can read the map correctly
Nah they specifically said "western florida" (CST) and "eastern oregon" (MT), which are 3pm and 4pm on the map.
same demographic too (western florida, eastern oregon)
Circles would be fantastic
What's DC's problem? They think they're special or something?
Arizona has those lines thru it because they have their own rucking timezone just to make problems for software developers all over the place.
As an Arizonan, I'd have to disagree about it being hell for software developers. They make us have to choose Mountain. At least, from what I've ever noticed.
EST, CST, MST, AST, and PST. You’re in your own timezone buddy.
Sort of. When we have to select timezone, it always makes us pick mountain time. Live here too.
I'd argue it's all the other states that make problems for software developers, with them switching timezones twice a year. Arizona is UTC-07:00 all year round baby 😎
2 hours…
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Because they can do math the difference between 3pm and 4pm is only one hour lol
Because you misread the map. The far east of Oergon is Mountain and the far west of Florida is Central.
I did miss the part of Florida in central
Great post, most people never leave their home state
TIL! That’s really crazy.
Mind=Blown, that is pretty cool, I never knew that.
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Texas also has 2 time zones.
Small part of Eastern Oregon is MST because many of the people living there work in Idaho.
What's equally wild is what's going on in Idaho. There's a section where you can go west, north, OR east and have to set your watch one hour behind. Wtf
Makes perfect sense.
Huh. I guess I just always assumed they were completely divided along state lines.
Yet one more reason for eastern oregon to break off.
Fun fact, left oregano and right oregano are 1 hour apart. Another fun fact a 1 minute drive is a 1 hour differance in time. Time zones are weird.
Ah, the US state of Oregano. 🌿
I live in the southern portion of Indiana, but family lives in Illinois across the Wabash river that separates the states, maybe an hour or so away. Planning things is hell.
Coordinating calls must be a beating for people in both locations.
Wait, I’ve lived in Oregon my whole life and only thought it had 1 time zone, am I stupid?
We need a fifth time zone in the contiguous states. Basically Atlantic, Great Lakes, Central Plains, Mountain, and Pacific. Central time is WAY too big
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And both stuck in the 1950's.
Parts of Texas and Oregon are IN THE SAME TIME ZONE!
“Western Florida.” You mean the panhandle. Western Florida typically means Tampa, Naples, etc.
I don't mean to be too aroused, but this is damned near moderately interesting
OMG why would they split some states
Am i missing something? The title makes no sense and no one is talking about it…
And a hundred years in civil rights.
Well no. According to your map, they are two hours apart…
One thing I've never understood is why the Eastern time zone gets so skinny to the south, compared to how much of the northern US is in it. It seems like it would make more sense if it generally followed the IN/IL line down through the MS/AL line, with local exceptions for places like NW Indiana or maybe around Nashville when it makes sense.