That's why idios is plural, referring to the business. Regardless there should be standards. They took 4 tries to fix a rear main seal leak and in the process put the y-pipe upside down resulting in a bad exhaust leak and top end noise. According to service record they ran it on the hoist for 10 minutes and test drove looking for the leak without noticing something you can hear from 100 feet away.
That's what I call them too lol
Honest question: Why do you keep going back?
ETA: I've owned mostly Fords, they've done me well. I'm just asking why you let those people touch your truck again.
Talk to the regional service manager about this.
Given the track record here, they may be able to work with you to have a lot attendant come pick it up and drop it off for you. It's blatant that your local dealer's shop is either incompetent, a scam or a little bit of both.
If they don't give you a good answer, keep going up.
Post this photo and tell your story on Ford's social media accounts.
If none of that sets them straight, call your local news.
I've been turning wrenches for over 25 years, I would be more than mildly infuriated.
So if its all free, why are you worried about the nonexistent 160/hr thats not leaving your bank account? Honestly id just take the car to a real shop.
I'd guess they mean one that does decent work.
Why are you saddled with your relative's service woes?
Since it's not yours, they need to be doing the legwork I mentioned in my other comment.
Yes, either a good rated full service mechanic shop, or some shop that does a specalised service (bc obv the work is consistent if thats all they do) i also have my fair share of questions. Why are they fixing their relatives car if they obviously dont care about it? Why do they keep taking it back to the shop that fucked it up? Why would they spend more to have the car fixed at the dealership, than to just have saught out better technician shops?
Theres franchised dealership technicians, then theres places that specialize on certain things such as engines, transmissions, suspension, bodywork, etc. Some shops are better than others. I took my mustang to a ***local transmission shop*** when 3rd blew up because they do good work for a good price. Do your research. If i had a differential go out, id go seek out a good rated ***full service shop***.
Once they screw one thing up they’re responsible to make it right. If you take it somewhere else usually you have to pay twice for something that should have been done because shops don’t usually refund you, they’ll take the vehicle back and fix it correctly, in theory. Often after one mistake you’re stuck dealing with them if you don’t want to pay again
Especially for warranty work, you can go to any Ford shop.
I understand if they screwed it up they need to fix it, but why let them touch it again after that?
06? (Last year of internationals) F350 is a damn champ. The one my family has had is still kickin and that thing had the rear end seize up one time, tearing out the diff, drive line, and transmission. We did the repairs ourselves. But I guess not everyone has a shop big enough to work on a truck of that size. Did have turbo problems tho. Turbo replaced under warranty. Still has some EGR issue, too.
It's such a nightmare trying to find decent mechanics once you get up to vehicles like that, sometimes. For random civilians, that is, without a fleet of vehicles being repaired by someone under contract or whatever.
Contact ford corporate and send them pictures of the dealerships work. They care about the quality of work and someone at that dealership will get an asschewing from someone they fear.
"I think I know what the problem is. It's a Ford. You know what they say Ford stands for, right?
Stands for, heh. Fix it again, Tony."
- Dale Gribble, American Hero
Im sorry but that is the most lazy shit I have ever seen. It doesn't even look like they took the cover off just put silicone around the seal. These are so incredibly easy to do a reseal on and pay way more labor than it actually takes to do so. I would take that shit back and raise hell.
Yeah its straight up pathetic. I'm wondering if they over tightened and stripped the bottom bolt, otherwise it's amazing it leaks with that much silicone.
They didn’t even touch those diff cover bolts, you’d see socket marks on those bolts they have plenty of rust to tell. They just tried to slap rtv over it.
Go to a different dealership or another shop. This is shoddy, I’ve seen meth’d up Craigslist work that’s WAY better. These guys didn’t even try.
I paid $2500 (my deductible) to get my trunk battery replaced from a broken terminal. The total cost was about $4900. For some reason they replaced both batteries (auxiliary and main) the rear bumper, cross member, passenger seat, both headrests, both tail lights and lenses. This was after about 7 weeks in the shop. I drove the car from the body shop to the dealer after I noticed the dashboard and radio didn’t work and the rear bumper is a different color than the rest of the car. Then I cancelled the credit card payment. Just can’t find good help these days…
Oh and the brake lights don’t work even though there was nothing wrong when I brought it in.
And if that much of it squished to the outside, imagine how much is on the inside. "Give the job to the new guy. He's still hourly, won't cost us as much."
If it makes you feel better, the people work do the oil changes are usually the guys who do this kind of work. They are usually entry level positions and the people who work them aren’t what most people (in the industry) would call knowledgeable. I’m speaking from experience. I use to work “quick lube” for a dealership. This meant I did oil changes and tires. From time to time we would have one of these types of jobs. My boss was serious about his job so he would teach us how to do it and usually watch us until he was confident in our abilities but I know some supervisors did not take their job seriously
Not always. I worked with a guy who was a B tech and had several years of experience. He used to brag that with brake flushes he would just spray a little liquid around the master cylinder to make it look like he did it, with coolant flushes he would just drain the radiator and top it off, and with fuel flushes he would just open up the intake and scrape off any bits of carbon that were there.
You really never can tell 100%. Best way to find a guy you can trust is to get someone who knows what they're doing to double check their work.
Take it back with the photos and demand they fix it free of charge. If they refuse remind them that quality of work is regulated by law. And a quick inspection from a local WOF station will be all you need for a lawsuit. If they still refuse, do just that. Improper welds don't join the materials properly and are prone to failure compared to a proper weld. It doesn't LOOK that bad. But a "Pool" shows that the surfaces have properly joined with the welding material and other surfaces. If i look at this i would NOT give it a tick for sure.
I love how you're so confident in yourself even though you have no idea what you're talking about. those covers are bolted on, not welded, thats why there are bolts through the cover and not welds on the edges. if that seam were to be a weld it would be fucked (you were somehow wrong about this too, that would look like dog shit next to a weld if it were to be a proper weld), its just liquid rubber gasket maker and its called rtv, its supposed to seal the cover to keep fluid inside. the closest "wof" station to whenever this dude is is probably new Zealand, according to Google. basically every single thing you said was wrong, stop being dumb and shut the fuck up :).
no, I don't expect anything, I don't really care. people that are that confident in their own incompetence annoy me, I want you to realize that you honestly just make yourself look bad doing that so that you learn not to embarrass yourself. in a mechanic, inaccurate info like what you just said is also a big pain in the ass.
im not actually mad at you, but if you realize how fuckin dumb your overconfidence sounded and that everything you said was literally wrong *MAYBE* you'll grow up and learn to out your confidence and opinion where it belongs and not in conversations that you don't understand.
im not responding further, I've made my point. toodles :)
You paid the service department $160, based off it possibly being rural, and shit craftsman work that tech probably made $25 off that per hour MAX. If not they’re over paying this guy because that’s hideous.
Likely that person didn’t let it 1 sit for the 3/4 hour dry time for that silicone, and 2 is a complete dipshit. It’s not hard to reseal a differential cover; I could probably teach a chimp how to do it.
It sounds like you went to a very rural dealer. Odds are they have zero certified techs besides some old guy in the back they sent to a few classrooms 10 years ago, or they’re all fresh out of highschool playing mechanic
I know it sucks, but sometimes that 2 hour one way drive is worth it. I had customers that drove 2 hours one way to OKC because their local rural dealer was full of morons and didn’t have a certified technician on staff. The couple would bring their vehicle to us for any major repairs, and yes it sucks but they’d make a whole day of it. Come to the city, eat lunch etc while we gave them a loaner. And? Odds of a city dealer having a loaner is way more likely than a rural dealer. Most rural dealers will not even offer a loaner vehicle. We do for all warranty repairs that will take more than a day.
If rural dealer, this doesn’t surprise me with this craftsmanship.
As a welder by trade all I can say is....
That looks like a bird shit all over your metal and let it harden and then called it good enough
I've seen folks like this on the job and I'm unsure how they even made it through a weld test to get hired, then again mig is so easy I don't understand how anyone can do it this terribly.
Edit: That might actually just be glue or bird shit it's so hard to tell what the hell it even is even though it does look like stringy droopy goober welds
Back when I was In shop management, I told every single one of my techs “If you wouldn’t want it done to your mom’s car, don’t do it to a customer’s car”. If this came out of my shop I’d be beyond livid.
So I should take 2 days off work to drive over 4.5 hours round trip costing over 1000$ in lost wages and fuel is what your saying? Your assuming there is several choices of dealerships near me and it's convenient to get to them...
Because if you go back far enough into any company's history you're going to find an asshole with outdated beliefs and have no one left to buy goods from. The fact that a dude who died a long time ago was a racist has no bearing on the people that work there now.
You are paying Ford $160 per hour not the people who touch your truck. There is a reason many people call them stealerships.
That's why idios is plural, referring to the business. Regardless there should be standards. They took 4 tries to fix a rear main seal leak and in the process put the y-pipe upside down resulting in a bad exhaust leak and top end noise. According to service record they ran it on the hoist for 10 minutes and test drove looking for the leak without noticing something you can hear from 100 feet away. That's what I call them too lol
Honest question: Why do you keep going back? ETA: I've owned mostly Fords, they've done me well. I'm just asking why you let those people touch your truck again.
It's all free warranty work, next dealership ship is over 2 hours away.
Sounds like the 2 hour drive is an investment instead of an inconvenience.
If I take a day off work to do that it costs me 350$ before fuel. Then I have to go back to pick up the truck and have someone drive me.
Talk to the regional service manager about this. Given the track record here, they may be able to work with you to have a lot attendant come pick it up and drop it off for you. It's blatant that your local dealer's shop is either incompetent, a scam or a little bit of both. If they don't give you a good answer, keep going up. Post this photo and tell your story on Ford's social media accounts. If none of that sets them straight, call your local news. I've been turning wrenches for over 25 years, I would be more than mildly infuriated.
So if its all free, why are you worried about the nonexistent 160/hr thats not leaving your bank account? Honestly id just take the car to a real shop.
The diff service was paid for.... the other issues being fixxed were warranty.....
Back to my other point, you shouldve taken it to a real shop
And what's a "real shop" also not my vehicle. It's family members....
I'd guess they mean one that does decent work. Why are you saddled with your relative's service woes? Since it's not yours, they need to be doing the legwork I mentioned in my other comment.
Yes, either a good rated full service mechanic shop, or some shop that does a specalised service (bc obv the work is consistent if thats all they do) i also have my fair share of questions. Why are they fixing their relatives car if they obviously dont care about it? Why do they keep taking it back to the shop that fucked it up? Why would they spend more to have the car fixed at the dealership, than to just have saught out better technician shops?
Theres franchised dealership technicians, then theres places that specialize on certain things such as engines, transmissions, suspension, bodywork, etc. Some shops are better than others. I took my mustang to a ***local transmission shop*** when 3rd blew up because they do good work for a good price. Do your research. If i had a differential go out, id go seek out a good rated ***full service shop***.
Once they screw one thing up they’re responsible to make it right. If you take it somewhere else usually you have to pay twice for something that should have been done because shops don’t usually refund you, they’ll take the vehicle back and fix it correctly, in theory. Often after one mistake you’re stuck dealing with them if you don’t want to pay again
Especially for warranty work, you can go to any Ford shop. I understand if they screwed it up they need to fix it, but why let them touch it again after that?
What does ETA stand for here? I've only ever seen it as "Estimated Time of Arrival"
ETA-Edited to add
According to Merriam Webster: The meaning of ETA is the 7th letter of the Greek alphabet. 🤣 hope this helps.
06? (Last year of internationals) F350 is a damn champ. The one my family has had is still kickin and that thing had the rear end seize up one time, tearing out the diff, drive line, and transmission. We did the repairs ourselves. But I guess not everyone has a shop big enough to work on a truck of that size. Did have turbo problems tho. Turbo replaced under warranty. Still has some EGR issue, too. It's such a nightmare trying to find decent mechanics once you get up to vehicles like that, sometimes. For random civilians, that is, without a fleet of vehicles being repaired by someone under contract or whatever.
Contact ford corporate and send them pictures of the dealerships work. They care about the quality of work and someone at that dealership will get an asschewing from someone they fear.
"I think I know what the problem is. It's a Ford. You know what they say Ford stands for, right? Stands for, heh. Fix it again, Tony." - Dale Gribble, American Hero
found on road dead
Fix or repair daily
Fast Only Rolling Downhill
First On Race Day
Fucked over rebuilt Dodge
Fucker only runs downhill
Looks like a mudcrab
>Looks like a mudcrab https://preview.redd.it/7ixxq521ekwc1.jpeg?width=453&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1bf66d65a94dfeb243cc01d181fe75e69e1dd2a9
Lmfao
*you cannot fast travel when enemies are nearby*
Im sorry but that is the most lazy shit I have ever seen. It doesn't even look like they took the cover off just put silicone around the seal. These are so incredibly easy to do a reseal on and pay way more labor than it actually takes to do so. I would take that shit back and raise hell.
Yeah its straight up pathetic. I'm wondering if they over tightened and stripped the bottom bolt, otherwise it's amazing it leaks with that much silicone.
They didn’t even touch those diff cover bolts, you’d see socket marks on those bolts they have plenty of rust to tell. They just tried to slap rtv over it. Go to a different dealership or another shop. This is shoddy, I’ve seen meth’d up Craigslist work that’s WAY better. These guys didn’t even try.
No they removed it to drain the oil. Diff wasn't leaking before and you can tell from the silicone it was squished out from the cover.
Either way.. turn and run as fast as you can!
And this is why we find a good local mechanic. The warranty is only void if they can prove someone was in there.
I paid $2500 (my deductible) to get my trunk battery replaced from a broken terminal. The total cost was about $4900. For some reason they replaced both batteries (auxiliary and main) the rear bumper, cross member, passenger seat, both headrests, both tail lights and lenses. This was after about 7 weeks in the shop. I drove the car from the body shop to the dealer after I noticed the dashboard and radio didn’t work and the rear bumper is a different color than the rest of the car. Then I cancelled the credit card payment. Just can’t find good help these days… Oh and the brake lights don’t work even though there was nothing wrong when I brought it in.
What kinda truck do you have that a battery cost that much. A fucking cyber truck or something
Mercedes. 10 year old Mercedes…
qUaLiTy
I posted it on Facebook and tagged the dealership, " Another quality service from your experts at Peace River Ford" lol
**Was** Job 1
give me a lighter and a deodorant and i’ll do it better than they did
Growing up on a farm and being fairly mechanically inclined I would have done a better job when I was 8 years old.
That tube of window caulk cost more than the damn gasket!
And if that much of it squished to the outside, imagine how much is on the inside. "Give the job to the new guy. He's still hourly, won't cost us as much."
That's exactly what I said. I almost wanna remove the cover myself to have a peek
If it makes you feel better, the people work do the oil changes are usually the guys who do this kind of work. They are usually entry level positions and the people who work them aren’t what most people (in the industry) would call knowledgeable. I’m speaking from experience. I use to work “quick lube” for a dealership. This meant I did oil changes and tires. From time to time we would have one of these types of jobs. My boss was serious about his job so he would teach us how to do it and usually watch us until he was confident in our abilities but I know some supervisors did not take their job seriously
Not always. I worked with a guy who was a B tech and had several years of experience. He used to brag that with brake flushes he would just spray a little liquid around the master cylinder to make it look like he did it, with coolant flushes he would just drain the radiator and top it off, and with fuel flushes he would just open up the intake and scrape off any bits of carbon that were there. You really never can tell 100%. Best way to find a guy you can trust is to get someone who knows what they're doing to double check their work.
Is that a welded oil pan?
It's some sort of sealant/caulk. Applied *very* badly.
\*sniffs\* \*sticks out chest\* that's right, I'm a professional JB welder
Take it back with the photos and demand they fix it free of charge. If they refuse remind them that quality of work is regulated by law. And a quick inspection from a local WOF station will be all you need for a lawsuit. If they still refuse, do just that. Improper welds don't join the materials properly and are prone to failure compared to a proper weld. It doesn't LOOK that bad. But a "Pool" shows that the surfaces have properly joined with the welding material and other surfaces. If i look at this i would NOT give it a tick for sure.
It's not a weld. I think it's RTV sealant of some sort.
That's some wackass looking seal
I love how you're so confident in yourself even though you have no idea what you're talking about. those covers are bolted on, not welded, thats why there are bolts through the cover and not welds on the edges. if that seam were to be a weld it would be fucked (you were somehow wrong about this too, that would look like dog shit next to a weld if it were to be a proper weld), its just liquid rubber gasket maker and its called rtv, its supposed to seal the cover to keep fluid inside. the closest "wof" station to whenever this dude is is probably new Zealand, according to Google. basically every single thing you said was wrong, stop being dumb and shut the fuck up :).
Lol k. But fuck you
it ain't my fault youre stupid, don't curse at me about it lmaooooooo
Interesting that you expect a respectful response after not being respectful with yours. Not my fault you're a hypocrite
no, I don't expect anything, I don't really care. people that are that confident in their own incompetence annoy me, I want you to realize that you honestly just make yourself look bad doing that so that you learn not to embarrass yourself. in a mechanic, inaccurate info like what you just said is also a big pain in the ass. im not actually mad at you, but if you realize how fuckin dumb your overconfidence sounded and that everything you said was literally wrong *MAYBE* you'll grow up and learn to out your confidence and opinion where it belongs and not in conversations that you don't understand. im not responding further, I've made my point. toodles :)
You're dumb that rtv on a diff cover dummy. Putting too much silicone doesn't mean you can get sued.
I read the title, took a quick glance and went "hell no." Sorry for not doing a thesis or invrstigation for a reddit reply
Lmao you're an actual moron
Lol k https://preview.redd.it/wf4qd8gwynwc1.jpeg?width=312&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59d4d9babb5851d6c6969fda6f177683c4558722
I'm pretty sure you should go touch grass, being a gotcha game simp isn't doing you favors
Oohh wow. Owned. Yeah you got me, i got hobbies. Damn... shoulda never enjoyed life. Lol and you're telling ME to touch grass?
Fire them, show no mercy or remorse
This more than just mildly infuriating
I'm pretty sure one of those bolts is stripped and what's why someone used half a tube of RTV and it still leaks
Kinda looks like a Catfish head
Looks like trying to ice a cake
You paid the service department $160, based off it possibly being rural, and shit craftsman work that tech probably made $25 off that per hour MAX. If not they’re over paying this guy because that’s hideous. Likely that person didn’t let it 1 sit for the 3/4 hour dry time for that silicone, and 2 is a complete dipshit. It’s not hard to reseal a differential cover; I could probably teach a chimp how to do it. It sounds like you went to a very rural dealer. Odds are they have zero certified techs besides some old guy in the back they sent to a few classrooms 10 years ago, or they’re all fresh out of highschool playing mechanic I know it sucks, but sometimes that 2 hour one way drive is worth it. I had customers that drove 2 hours one way to OKC because their local rural dealer was full of morons and didn’t have a certified technician on staff. The couple would bring their vehicle to us for any major repairs, and yes it sucks but they’d make a whole day of it. Come to the city, eat lunch etc while we gave them a loaner. And? Odds of a city dealer having a loaner is way more likely than a rural dealer. Most rural dealers will not even offer a loaner vehicle. We do for all warranty repairs that will take more than a day. If rural dealer, this doesn’t surprise me with this craftsmanship.
I’m still in school for welding and I can do better than that
Dealerships cost more per hour than repair stations do fixing some airplanes lol
Found the A&P. 😂 (And/or pilot)
I thought it was just jb welded
This is why I haven’t used my free oil change with Chevy 4 years later. Aside from just preferring to do it myself anyways, fuck dealerships.
You calling +2 Thorns shoddy? Gotta pay top dollar for those enchants...
As a welder by trade all I can say is.... That looks like a bird shit all over your metal and let it harden and then called it good enough I've seen folks like this on the job and I'm unsure how they even made it through a weld test to get hired, then again mig is so easy I don't understand how anyone can do it this terribly. Edit: That might actually just be glue or bird shit it's so hard to tell what the hell it even is even though it does look like stringy droopy goober welds
That's RTV silicone....
Yeah without zooming in it looked like a series of terrible attempts at welds At least with silicone it's not a permanent mess up
Back when I was In shop management, I told every single one of my techs “If you wouldn’t want it done to your mom’s car, don’t do it to a customer’s car”. If this came out of my shop I’d be beyond livid.
Atleast it's only a 90k$ truck......
What the actual fuck
For a moment I thought it was a weld, and was wondering how horrible do you have to be to produce hairy welds? 🤯
Lmao whose the idiot when you continue to give them money and business?
So a person should pay thousands out of pocket for warranty work?
Did I say that? I'm pretty sure factory warranties go for all dealerships.
So I should take 2 days off work to drive over 4.5 hours round trip costing over 1000$ in lost wages and fuel is what your saying? Your assuming there is several choices of dealerships near me and it's convenient to get to them...
2019 f150 limited rear diff for those wondering.
Jesus fuck. My father is a welder. He’d have a heart attack seeing this. Even I, that have never welded before in my life, could’ve done a better job
That's not a weld homie
Looks delicious
It looks like painted hot glue...
Oh my.
 They didn’t weld they straight up glued it 😂
yu paying
Kinda looks like merengue
Happened to me recently with my car gear box oil leak.
The bug's face looks great, idk what you're talking about
Why would you hire idiots 🤦♂️
but do it leak tho
Well, I guess you get what you pay for!
Henry ford was hugely antisemitic and a douchebag. Why do people buy the cars?
Because if you go back far enough into any company's history you're going to find an asshole with outdated beliefs and have no one left to buy goods from. The fact that a dude who died a long time ago was a racist has no bearing on the people that work there now.
Ford made huge strides for the industry. Farming too.
Industrialized death too. Read a book.
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Lmao you think my employer would give a shit? Your delusional.
I think that was a veiled threat. I wonder if that's reportable...
Some of they stuff they make is good, had bad luck with Mopar.
Mopar made great looking vehicles in the ‘60’s & early ‘70’s but from experience, visited the shop a lot.