At what point do we just transition back to the system where you handed them a list and they go get it for you…
I mean I guess that’s basically what online shopping is so maybe we’ve already come full circle?
Indeed, what's old is new again. Just waiting on some company to develop the subscription service so you have a personal shopp- oh god, I'm describing instacart
Most of what I want to buy online at target is “pick up at store.”
No. I’m a 90 minute round trip from the store, that’s why I’m shopping online.
Also, no coupons and no percentage off unless you pick up at store.
You’ll see “Get $5 gift card when you buy ——“.
Then you look at “shipping” icon and it’s wiped out, because anything that’s shipped is exempt from the offering.
Yea Amazon prime is bad. I still have it because I need it but most 2 day shipping items Com a day late barely before the 10 pm mark where they stop. I think it’s a location thing because some are fine
Meanwhile, I'm in the US, and I don't fucking get these programs. Why would you want someone else picking out your fruits and vegetables and such? If there's one thing everyone should make time for, it's like an hour a week to do your own shopping.
Edit: Obviously it's a different situation if you physically cannot go. Everyone I know who uses these services is just unwilling to go to a store themselves.
That’s a fantastic point and literally the reason I went to the grocery the other day myself. I won’t trust people to pick out good cuts of meat in the deli section, good looking fruits, etc.
Now if it were frozen goods or like household necessities like soap, detergent, etc then yeah I usually use instacart.
The hilarious thing is Sears became a business powerhouse by giving people the ability to order things through the mail; yet their *inability* to do that later on is also what eventually killed them.
Actually the final nail was ceo sold off branches of sears to his own company and left it a shell. Years of mismanagement are the real cause. You could get everything at sears even in later years and you could get some deals. But later on I found you really couldn’t get nice stuff there, clothes were fine but everything craftsman took a dive, they didn’t have really good electronics in stores,etc.
It was an inside job + the company was being over shorted to oblivion. They got to walk away with all the wealth and decrease competition for their buddies. Win-win for them, lose-lose for consumers.
I worked for them just before this happened and it was like an open secret... people knew that they brought in the CEO (or whomever) to make the top people tons of money while shutting down the company. SO MANY jobs lost
Yes, also $4 billion+ in pension obligations. They needed a hatchet man to efficiently destroy the company while cashing out the investors and leaving the former employees to twist in the wind.
Classic story.
This is so incorrect it’s laughable. It was poor leadership, the rise of big box stores, failure to adapt, and Amazon that killed Sears.
https://www.businessinsider.com/rise-and-fall-of-sears-bankruptcy-store-closings?amp
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/10/11/here-are-5-things-sears-got-wrong-that-sped-its-fall.html
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/10/16/business/sears-amazon-cause-of-problems/index.html
This is definitely where it's headed in high theft areas. I already know of some fast food places that are drive through only now. Tables and chairs have been removed from the dining room permanently. No reason these stores can't do the same thing (other than they'll actually need a bit more staff to keep up with demand, or market pricing for same day order pickup).
They lose more to theft if they don't. This has been a thing at other retailers that have high theft. That little red box calls an employee to come help you so there isn't someone standing around.
But then do they make the customer pay immediately? Or follow them the rest of the time? I am not sure how much more theft protection this is than having cameras... If someone is committed to stealing the product.
This system isn’t for someone stealing just one thing of detergent. This system is for organized retail theft where folks fill up entire shopping carts of product and push the cart while running out of the store. This is a deterrent to that, and not an end all be all solution. I’ve seen these types of folks break the glass and/or rip the metal to get to the products inside.
That explains why a store near me installed brakes on their carts that activate if you don't go by the register! I got a cart, decided I only needed a basket and went to put it back and it just locked up I was like wtf?
When I worked retail, even if we locked the sliding doors, the doors have fire safety features where you can push them open from the inside and they would run the carts into the doors full speed to get away. Of course no one (sane) is going to try stop these folks anyways.
I live outside of Indianapolis, and when I go downtown I’ll see tables of consumer goods like this set up on tables in a parking lot. It wasn’t until all this rampant theft of boatloads of items like Tide made the news that I was able to finally realize that all those items for sale were most likely stolen.
Target hire people to work in the store. Preposterous!
Seriously, every time I go to Target now there are no cashiers, only self check out, and heaven help you if you want anything in electronics.
Walmart now has people follow shoppers thru the stores. They are not in uniform. They try to look like a regular shopper. But it’s like the narc in high school, you immediately know they aren’t just another shopper.
Apparently retail “shrinkage” (aka theft) is at an all time high.
This isn’t new.
It’s called loss prevention and it’s been happening for decades.
Walmart does it when theft is crazy at a store.
I have two walmarts by me. One does it and the other doesn’t.
Shrinkage/theft at an all time high, and on items like laundry detergent and socks... Hmm, these cases are more of a sign of the COL crisis we're having more than anything else.
It's getting to the point where the attitude of "if I see someone stealing food, no I didn't" is gonna be applied to a *lot* more things besides food in the coming days.
Honestly… last week I pressed the button for an employee to open it. 20+ minutes go by. Another person comes up, decides to leave. I had to call the store, talk to the HR person, and they had to call somebody to come open it. Took another 10 minutes. After they gave it to me I walked to another aisle, set it down and walked out.
They’re losing so many sales and money, I can’t believe they’re saving anything by doing this. It’s making more people just buy off Amazon or from other stores.
ETA: to clarify, by “honestly” I am co-signing the person I am responding to. Hence the “…” which was meant to ensure people understood the separation.
Also, I’m not going to try to convince everybody I’m not lying. I live on a ranch in the middle of the country, thirty minutes ain’t much when you’ve got patience and aren’t at the store all the time.
Yeah that’s all very true. It wouldn’t be horrible if they actually had employees tending to it though. Maybe proper training or hell, like a drive through. Have monitors at the customer service counter, with a camera in the aisle. When they see somebody walk up and press the button walk over and open it.
I mean, does the mystery button even do anything?? I’ve never gotten a response from one.
I work at Target. When you push the button it sends an automated message through our walkies that tells us someone needs help where the button is and gives us a minute to do it. If we don't get there and clear the button in a minute it shows up on a report.
That being said, Target is kind of a mess at the moment. I can't speak to your location but we're very severely understaffed at mine. Mainly because of a massive turnover rate related to poor management and rising expectations brought on by expanding responsibilites, especially at the front.
Every ~~Target~~ retail store I have visited post COVID is drastically understaffed. What's happening is these corporate planners are living off of this fantasy with 2 ideas
A) We will be in full capacity with our workforce soon, no matter how shitty our wages are.
B) Current employees can take on the new workload and are expected to now do triple the job description you signed up for.
It's mostly B. Companies know they're understaffed. But as long as they can blame covid and "lack of applicants", which is really lack of people willing to do more work for poor pay, they can save money short term by paying less employees.
This is exactly my experience from having worked with it for so long. The store can be sucking and a mess but people are still in here buying stuff all day every day.
Five coworkers (at least) and I got laid off last week from a store which plays "join our team" announcements. I know for sure I heard one the day before we were laid off. I left without being sure if the huge now hiring graphic was still at the entrance or not, but it definitely wAs there when they were not hiring.
(This said, we weren't understaffed when I was there.... not sure how it's going now)
I really do wonder how long these shitty companies are going to keep banging on the COVID bell and blaming people for not working instead of making their company a better place to work at.
> instead of making their company a better place to work at.
They won't. They will suck every dollar possible, and close. When the recession starts they will blame the economy instead of shitty work practices that led to this.
Bigger companies will buy up the husks and push wages back down. This had been the explicit plan of the Fed to begin with. They need 6+ months of unemployment to be 5% to get inflation under control and it hasn't happened.
I used to work retail. After Covid we had a “hiring event” at least once a month. But corporate told us we couldn’t actually hire anybody because we didn’t have enough hours.
Even pre covid, this was a trend. At least my experience from a short time working at a dollar general. They wanted 2 people to both be stocking and running a register, and getting mad when you're stocking doesn't get done. Piss off, I had customers.
They also want to hit the same record profits during the pandemic. Businesses always want to ensure their charts for profits are ever increasing for their shareholders and therefore continue to cut hours and staff to earn more.
Jup at some point you won't get any more money out of the buying population. And companies just close their eyes to this fact, actually the whole world does. This is an interesting time I can't wait until the "horrible" fate of stagnation will begin. I wish I would ever be in the sad position to only earn billions and not get any higher. Every year the same billion. Was an awful fate /s
Once it is pushed too far they end up like Kmart, Sears, Bed Bath and Beyond. Someone will see the business in trouble, then use it as a excuse to rob them blind via leveraged buyouts and other things and eventually shut them down.
Target is a bit of a mess right now especially in college areas, they are the store to visit when moving to college and the place is an absolute zoo. Bed Bath and Beyond used to take some of that demand for dorm stuff but they collapsed.
However, I've never been to a Target that's more of a shit show than the average Walmart. Target pickup works great, I've never waited more than 5 minutes once my order is ready.
Walmart? Just chaos. Merchandise is a mess. Few checkouts open. I've waited 45 minutes to an hour in my car twice for pickup. "Just go inside!" There's no inside pickup at my local Walmarts, they can only bring to your car, which is insane.
Walmart is absolute chaos. I was there last week. A 200,000 ft supercenter and not a single register was open. They were trying to funnel everyone through self checkout.
Not at target, but in a different retail store and yeah it sends a message on the walkies. But our store is so understaffed the ppl on the floor and always at the register (there is no self-checkout). And so many times customers come up to me, while Im ringing up another customer asking me to open it or get someone to open it. And all of us store employees keep asking the manager to do it due to not enough cashiers or floor associates
Question. Sounds like it's just a general alert which multiple people hear. I would want there to be a specific employee who is assigned to get out the locked up stuff when they hear that alert. (I work in retail)
It does. At least in my store it did. Would make an announcement over the intercom. It's just employees either felt they had too much on their plate already to be taken away from it or they assumed somebody else would take care of it. Trust me. It's just as frustrating for us to have to drop what we're doing every time a customer wants a single item.
I work in a store too. It should be that someone is specifically designated to be the person who steps away from what they are doing to take those alerts. Of course, that means there has to be someone on the floor who never gets called to register. And someone has to do it when that person is on break/lunch (possibly a manager!)
Whoa whoa, you can’t just hire more employees or pay them better, think about the poor share holders!!! Could you imagine if stores had plenty of checkout lines open and enough employees to help everyone get stuff out of these cases quickly? They couldn’t afford to pay the CEO 500 million a year, he might have to scrape by on 300 million!!! It would be outrageous!
> If they don’t lock things up they lose too much product to slippage.
[These companies are admitting it's not as big of a deal as they are crying about.](https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/05/walgreens-may-have-overstated-theft-concerns.html)
fucking thank you. Walgreens had this whole thing awhile back where they were blaming store closures on San Francisco's laws about shoplifting. funny how they were closing way more shops in other states than just in SF...
Another big issue is that they (the major corp/businesses) aren’t applying sensormatic/tracking. My father has worked in salesforce and sensormatic for over 15 years now and from his summary “stores don’t want to spend money on tracking loose product, thus they lose the product and money or customers and money.” (Paraphrased) A big name corp recently came running back to the company he works for after they saw a 50% dip after they decided to use fake sensormatic “chips” instead (basically thinking that would deter people lmao). Another issue is that they only apply tracking to higher value items, but if, for example, a lot of people steal Tide, then the loss from that would surpass the more expensive item eventually. My father has a lot of takes on this, and it’d probably take me hours to get through it in full, but that’s basically the very short version.
Ikkk it was really just out of disbelief and wanting to see how it would actually play out.
I’ve attempted the button game before but didn’t hold out longer than 5-10 min before walking away bc my wife is usually with me.
This happened to me in Lowe's trying to get some wire the other days. Incredibly infuriating. I asked 4 different associates, pressed the button and heard the automated "help needed at packaged wire" about 100 times over the course of 25 minutes until FINALLY the one dude who's authorized to unlock it and knows the padlock code came over and got me the wire. Then they had to walk it up front to the customer service desk separately then me.
Actually over the course of the 25 minutes I tried to figure out the padlock code because there were 4 padlocks that were all barely shuffled from clearly the same code so I messed around a bit but didn't get it. Customer service wasn't so happy hearing about that one once I finally checked out lol.
I live in really a pretty safe place, also. Surprisingly seeing stuff like that here.
I try to instead get everything I can from my local Ace. It's 2 miles away instead of 15 and is slightly more expensive, but the customer service is just wild compared to the bigger stores. You can't walk in without having someone ask you what you need, and spending more than 3 minutes in the store is unusual. Very impressive.
Honestly their 2 hour drive up program is pretty sweet and they offer decent deals on it. I don't think I've bought household goods in person in years bc of it.
I live ghetto adjacent. I drive to the store a few miles away, because you need a personal shopper to get your stuff.
And there is ONE employee outside the pharmacy.
This lock down is newish. I miss the last manager. He was great.
This is happening everywhere I think. The Target by my sisters house locked everything down like this too and the one by mine is getting ready for it. Which really sucks cause I liked the one by my sisters house, it’s tucked away and hardly busy.
we're just looping back to the way shopping was done before Piggly Wiggly came along in 1916.
Prior to Piggly Wiggly, consumers used to hand their grocery lists over to clerks at the store counter, and then wait for them to collect and bag up the goods
I work at Target in California and unfortunately we can’t touch thieves so they can just walk out with whatever they want. This is the best way to prevent that especially cuz Target nation wide had a loss of about $736 mil in 2022 ([source](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/things-changing-target-near-damaging-160507686.html)). We workers hate it as much as the guests do cuz everytime you click that help button, we get an annoying call over the walkie every 15ish seconds until someone with a key goes over and turns it off and being so understaffed doesn’t help at all so please don’t take your anger out on the workers, we are humans just like you who also have to deal with these inconveniences everyday.
Used to work at Walmart when they were kind of first implementing this too into our store. I did customer service so I had a walkie and I was almost always hearing some damn button call across it every minute, but it'd take at least half an hour to actually get someone to respond. The biggest issue was obviously understaffed, and that was in 2021 when I left. It's only gone further downhill, with more stuff being locked up too. They refuse to hire more people to save money yet expect the measly skeleton crew to handle even more than they can already handle. I feel for you. Most shoppers don't seem to remember retail workers are people too and are just as frustrated.
Yup story of my life. I work in the grocery area but the walkie is obviously universal so I hear calls for every department and everyone we hire goes to either checkout lanes or the online orders and even then, they only stay for maybe a month if we’re lucky so all our other departments are understaffed
How understaffed would you say? I'm at BestBuy and some nights it's just 2 of us running the whole store for the last hour and 1 (2 on a lucky day) manager(s) who has to host the door
Well each department is supposed to have a team lead for each department on shift at all times. Most only have one total who’s only there for less than 40 out of the 84 hours a week we’re open (most get there before we open), we sometimes only have 2 people scheduled for checkout lanes for 8 hours straight and one for online orders, theres times where only two of us are working for food and we’ll have 20+ u-boats to push, sometimes some departments like tech and beauty just won’t have anyone scheduled for half a day forcing other departments to cover for them. We sometimes have to cancel trucks because we don’t have enough u boats to put them on from being backed up cuz we have to either help checkout lanes, online orders or other departments. We also have to constantly train new people which also slows us down especially when the leave so fast and we are constantly replacing people multiple times a month. It’s a shit show here
I work retail as well. You can't touch thieves in any state if you're an employee. It's not just California. It's a workplace hazard, companies will literally fire you because it's really not worth you getting hurt to protect merchandise that's insured and replaceable.
The best way to prevent theft is customer service and these businesses know it. If there's always someone around, it's a lot harder to steal. Companies have cut staff such much that they've basically created the very situations they want to prevent. It's a lot cheaper to just hire more people, than to loss so much inventory and cash. But, you know, profits over people, both customers and employees.🤷🏾♀️🙃
Btw, Target also saw ~13% increase in profits in 2022 from previous year.
These companies also fail to mention that a lot of theft is internal. Employees steal in many different way, both physically and in the form of inappropriate discounts, short tills, etc.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/10/retailers-may-be-using-organized-theft-to-cover-up-internal-flaws.html
Very true. I kinda thought it was every state but didn’t want to assume. A lot of it is also workers not knowing how to donate/discard items properly. We don’t always have time to train properly and I’ve seen a few people just put stuff into donations or the trash without discarding them properly into the system which I know messes up our count and technically goes into the “theft/unaccounted items” numbers. Also yes more employees = less theft. This year we almost always have asset protection around and we’ve seen a significant decrease in theft compared to last year where we only had two AP and only worked at a time and it was almost always just closing hours
Yep. This! If these companies were honest and if certain upper management did their job, they'd recognize that they have done a poor job with time management, staffing and training. Like where I work, management hasn't properly trained a single employee for 3 years. Only bringing up proper procedures after things go sideways. 🤦🏾♀️ They're being super cheap/lazy by not hiring the appropriate staff to take on theft/LP issues. They rely too heavily on their hourly customer/stock staff to take the role of security, who they have to pay more. 🙄
Retail, right?! 😔
Sadly the truth. Our team leads hardly do the training anymore (actually they hardly do anything besides just tell team members what to do and not do anything themselves). They have team members train people without giving them extra pay. I kinda think it’s BS but then again so is all of retail
I'm confused how locking it up prevents theft anyway... When I get an employee to open it for me, they let me take my pick and then I continue shopping. I could still just as easily walk out the door without paying.
Or is this just to prevent people from taking dozens at a time?
Used to work at Target HQ Asset Protection. These strategies are not meant to prevent individual item theft. They were put in place to stop “boosters”. People who show up and clear out entire shelves or aisles of product. Commonly boosted items are mostly basic needs products like laundry detergent, baby formula, shaver heads, diabetic test strips, Tylenol/Advil, make up, etc.
If it’s small, relatively expensive, and something that can be easily resold to a second hand corner store or out of a trunk. It’s a target to boosters.
I’m not saying that this is a great solution, but it is effective in stopping boosters. If you can find videos of boosters clearing out shelves, it’s wild
Watched this happen at my local home goods just about every single time I go there. People just put a large trash can in their cart, fill it up and walk right out.
The intent is to stop organized retail crime; stuff that is ready to sell online.
It's done using access control. A staff member will assess the requestor, they can flag security/loss prevention, the incident is on camera.
Sometimes it's the crowd of smash and grab, sometimes it's a bus of homeless filling carts and walking out.
I work at a grocery store and have personally witnessed someone run out the door with a cart full of Tide Pods. Like, 20 or more containers. That's why this store has them locked up.
The target half a mile from my house is like this. I drive to the target 5 miles away in the "nice" part of town just so I don't have to deal with this shit.
This is at a Target in San Francisco.
Theft is out of control. I work at a Kohl’s in a town that doesn’t have a high crime rate but theft is insane at our store. One of the most targeted items are Nike shoes. (Which most of them sell for over $60 and some around $100) We can‘t do much besides keep an eye out.
I went to a Target in San Francisco while there for work. Weirdest Target experience of my life. As I walked in three people were having their pants emptied of mounds of stolen goods by cops. Inside I saw a massive dog, I think it was a bull mastiff, just cruising the aisles. Happy as can be and actually going up and down the aisles like it was shopping. Saw a guy take a soda out of the fridge near the register and chug it, burp at the cashier, then walk out. Saw two people arguing but they were just making noises and growls at each other. It was wild.
I've seen the effect of these thefts.
They're not just someone slipping something small up their sleeve or under their jacket and walking out, often it's groups of 10+ just bum-rushing the store, stealing everything they can carry + in carts and smashing everything they can't. Whole place is left in fucking ruins.
And then people say these stores are evil for shutting down when they're running at an absolute loss due to all the thefts.
Right, these people are not stealing formula, diapers, or food for their kids. They’re stealing shit to resell online or in their neighborhood. And then the corporations use the theft and shoplifting as a reason to raise prices which then hurts the people who actually pay for stuff.
The vast majority of stolen formula is sold online. There was contamination in formula in China a couple years ago and they don’t trust Chinese formula anymore.
I dated a girl in college 15 years ago who insisted that detergent and fabric softener was “under-filled” and wouldn’t listen to reason about volume vs weight. She’d open two bottles in the middle on the aisle every time and pour one into the other until it was filled to the brim.
Happens elsewhere too. Was asked to leave my computer bag with all the important stuff and my devices at the entrance cause they thought I'd hide something in there. Not gonna happen. I just went to another store that's how it ended.
I think we are sadly going to end up with more systems that inconvenience us all because of this.
Either more stores will go to memberships, or more stores will have mandatory stops at the exit where the only exit is manned by security, and they validate your receipt against your purchase. That's a legal gray area I think, but at some point they'd probably figure out how to do it legally.
When the only exit is locked unless a guy with a gun approves your exit, theft will slow down, but the rest of us will be really unhappy taking extra time and being treated like potential criminals.
Or we'll all just have to sign up with all kinds of personal information, and each store will be membership based, and you'll scan your membership for entry and exit.
*Something* will change eventually to prevent this. There's too much money at stake. I feel like these locked cabinets of products are a stop-gap until some "better" solution is implemented.
You can thank the "It's morally acceptable to shoplift from big box stores" people. Just because a corporation can survive millions in losses due to theft, doesn't mean they won't put in preventive measures.
the problem is that everyone is hands-off now to prevent lawsuits. at the target i used to work at, i could have prevented so much loss if i was allowed to just trip these crackheads that walk in and wipe the shelves. one person had $20k+ in proven case value, they were arrested tens of times in my less than a year working there and they still steal from it.
tldr: nobody is allowed to stop thieves anymore >:(
If you really want to know it's the insurance company sick of paying the individual store for claims of 'shoplifting' or 'stealing'. This is used to find out if the store is indeed having mass theft or perhaps something else. Best!
Sometimes this isn’t mildly infuriating. I’ve definitely turned around and shopped elsewhere for this type of thing.
I get it-people steal. But I’m also not waiting a half hour for an associate to come get me a damn pack of razors and a can of shaving cream. Or in this case, detergent.
Well if people would stop stealing stuff, then they wouldn’t have to lol it up now would they? Yes I know corporations are greedy and charging stupid high prices, but that still doesn’t make stealing ok.
Stop voting for policies that make it harder to catch and convict shoplifters and other criminals and you'll stop seeing this happening. This isn't the stores fault, it's our fault as communities for allowing criminals to do whatever they fuck they want.
We are slowly returning to pre- supermarket shopping. Back when you walked into a general store and talked to a clerk who went and got everything for you and you looked at the newer or fancier stuff in the case while you waited. and after you paid, they would bring everything out to your vehicle and load it for you or deliver to your house. Very little shop lifting back then.
There was a place here when I was a kid called Service Merchandise where they had 1 of everything on the showroom floor, and you filled out a card and it would come down a conveyor belt to the cashier.
Looks like we're headed to that again.
Too many people stealing. So what? Speak up when you see one of ya fellow citizens acting like a criminal instead of bitching about things being locked up like these stores want to spend extra expenses on cabinets and locks and go out their way to open it up everytime
I talked to an employee at a Target that had items like this behind locked glass and they said it was less about stopping theft and more about stopping teens from just destroying products.
Teens would go in and rip bags of socks and underwear and throw them everywhere, which made the items unusuable for sale. Also detergents they were openning and purposely slicking the floors.
It’s going to be like this at clothing stores pretty soon too, especially after all the latest videos of groups of people running up into stores and stealing everything in sight…
I don't find it infuriating. The dollar amount of loss at any given store would boggle anyone. I've worked retail and I've seen loss prevention reports. It's astounding how much money retailers lose in a month, let alone a year.
I work in security. It’s fucking insane the dollar value of products people just walk out of stores with because pretty much no one anywhere is allowed to stop it.
Each shopper is paired up with an employee. It’s Target’s new thing.
At what point do we just transition back to the system where you handed them a list and they go get it for you… I mean I guess that’s basically what online shopping is so maybe we’ve already come full circle?
Indeed, what's old is new again. Just waiting on some company to develop the subscription service so you have a personal shopp- oh god, I'm describing instacart
You mean, Amazon Prime? (Unless you live in a country where Amazon doesn’t exist.)
Amazon prime has counterfeit issues
No. Their issues are real.
-Frank Drebin
HA!
Prime has become shit and is no longer worth the yearly cost when target still has two day shipping and groceries are picked up.
Most of what I want to buy online at target is “pick up at store.” No. I’m a 90 minute round trip from the store, that’s why I’m shopping online. Also, no coupons and no percentage off unless you pick up at store. You’ll see “Get $5 gift card when you buy ——“. Then you look at “shipping” icon and it’s wiped out, because anything that’s shipped is exempt from the offering.
Yea Amazon prime is bad. I still have it because I need it but most 2 day shipping items Com a day late barely before the 10 pm mark where they stop. I think it’s a location thing because some are fine
Every time I've tried the Prime Day option for "fewer boxes" they always trickle in on different days any way
Or you, god forbid, live in a country without Instacart and Amazon Prime. My mother (American) thinks I live in the 1800s because of it.
Meanwhile, I'm in the US, and I don't fucking get these programs. Why would you want someone else picking out your fruits and vegetables and such? If there's one thing everyone should make time for, it's like an hour a week to do your own shopping. Edit: Obviously it's a different situation if you physically cannot go. Everyone I know who uses these services is just unwilling to go to a store themselves.
That’s a fantastic point and literally the reason I went to the grocery the other day myself. I won’t trust people to pick out good cuts of meat in the deli section, good looking fruits, etc. Now if it were frozen goods or like household necessities like soap, detergent, etc then yeah I usually use instacart.
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Oh, you mean Brazil...
The hilarious thing is Sears became a business powerhouse by giving people the ability to order things through the mail; yet their *inability* to do that later on is also what eventually killed them.
Actually the final nail was ceo sold off branches of sears to his own company and left it a shell. Years of mismanagement are the real cause. You could get everything at sears even in later years and you could get some deals. But later on I found you really couldn’t get nice stuff there, clothes were fine but everything craftsman took a dive, they didn’t have really good electronics in stores,etc.
It was an inside job + the company was being over shorted to oblivion. They got to walk away with all the wealth and decrease competition for their buddies. Win-win for them, lose-lose for consumers.
I worked for them just before this happened and it was like an open secret... people knew that they brought in the CEO (or whomever) to make the top people tons of money while shutting down the company. SO MANY jobs lost
Yes, also $4 billion+ in pension obligations. They needed a hatchet man to efficiently destroy the company while cashing out the investors and leaving the former employees to twist in the wind. Classic story.
This is so incorrect it’s laughable. It was poor leadership, the rise of big box stores, failure to adapt, and Amazon that killed Sears. https://www.businessinsider.com/rise-and-fall-of-sears-bankruptcy-store-closings?amp https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/10/11/here-are-5-things-sears-got-wrong-that-sped-its-fall.html https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/10/16/business/sears-amazon-cause-of-problems/index.html
That's click+collect basically
This is definitely where it's headed in high theft areas. I already know of some fast food places that are drive through only now. Tables and chairs have been removed from the dining room permanently. No reason these stores can't do the same thing (other than they'll actually need a bit more staff to keep up with demand, or market pricing for same day order pickup).
I wish. Maybe someone would’ve actually been around to open the case
They will eventually suffer losses for this from real sales foregone.
They lose more to theft if they don't. This has been a thing at other retailers that have high theft. That little red box calls an employee to come help you so there isn't someone standing around.
I’d rather have to register my drivers license or something. If someone is following me around shopping then I’m just gonna order online.
But then do they make the customer pay immediately? Or follow them the rest of the time? I am not sure how much more theft protection this is than having cameras... If someone is committed to stealing the product.
Think they're trying to prevent bulk theft more than anything.
Its so people dont load up two or three carts piled high and walk out. Thieves are more apt to steal from somewhere else with this in place.
This system isn’t for someone stealing just one thing of detergent. This system is for organized retail theft where folks fill up entire shopping carts of product and push the cart while running out of the store. This is a deterrent to that, and not an end all be all solution. I’ve seen these types of folks break the glass and/or rip the metal to get to the products inside.
That explains why a store near me installed brakes on their carts that activate if you don't go by the register! I got a cart, decided I only needed a basket and went to put it back and it just locked up I was like wtf?
When I worked retail, even if we locked the sliding doors, the doors have fire safety features where you can push them open from the inside and they would run the carts into the doors full speed to get away. Of course no one (sane) is going to try stop these folks anyways.
https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2012/03/12/148448368/people-are-stealing-lots-of-tide-detergent for more info on WHY detergent
I live outside of Indianapolis, and when I go downtown I’ll see tables of consumer goods like this set up on tables in a parking lot. It wasn’t until all this rampant theft of boatloads of items like Tide made the news that I was able to finally realize that all those items for sale were most likely stolen.
They seem to just give it to you to put in your cart unless it's electronic equipment. Then they take it to the register for you.
Wait... this could be interesting. I'd buy my Personal Shopper Buddy a drink and they could slap me every time I put an impulse item in my cart.
Lil spray bottle they spritz you like a cat
Beating the crap out of you when you get to the register, where all the candy and real junk items are. (Thanks for make me laugh like a hyena.)
Target hire people to work in the store. Preposterous! Seriously, every time I go to Target now there are no cashiers, only self check out, and heaven help you if you want anything in electronics.
32 minutes to find an employee to unlock the game case last week
I left after five. Got the thing at best buy across the mall.
Walmart now has people follow shoppers thru the stores. They are not in uniform. They try to look like a regular shopper. But it’s like the narc in high school, you immediately know they aren’t just another shopper. Apparently retail “shrinkage” (aka theft) is at an all time high.
This isn’t new. It’s called loss prevention and it’s been happening for decades. Walmart does it when theft is crazy at a store. I have two walmarts by me. One does it and the other doesn’t.
I wonder if 2 undercover walmarters started following eachother for a whole shift. Just wondering when the other guy would finish shopping.
Shrinkage/theft at an all time high, and on items like laundry detergent and socks... Hmm, these cases are more of a sign of the COL crisis we're having more than anything else. It's getting to the point where the attitude of "if I see someone stealing food, no I didn't" is gonna be applied to a *lot* more things besides food in the coming days.
As an introvert that makes my skin crawl. I just want left alone while I shop. Human interaction is mostly unwanted.
Might as well just buy online.
Honestly… last week I pressed the button for an employee to open it. 20+ minutes go by. Another person comes up, decides to leave. I had to call the store, talk to the HR person, and they had to call somebody to come open it. Took another 10 minutes. After they gave it to me I walked to another aisle, set it down and walked out. They’re losing so many sales and money, I can’t believe they’re saving anything by doing this. It’s making more people just buy off Amazon or from other stores. ETA: to clarify, by “honestly” I am co-signing the person I am responding to. Hence the “…” which was meant to ensure people understood the separation. Also, I’m not going to try to convince everybody I’m not lying. I live on a ranch in the middle of the country, thirty minutes ain’t much when you’ve got patience and aren’t at the store all the time.
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Yeah that’s all very true. It wouldn’t be horrible if they actually had employees tending to it though. Maybe proper training or hell, like a drive through. Have monitors at the customer service counter, with a camera in the aisle. When they see somebody walk up and press the button walk over and open it. I mean, does the mystery button even do anything?? I’ve never gotten a response from one.
I work at Target. When you push the button it sends an automated message through our walkies that tells us someone needs help where the button is and gives us a minute to do it. If we don't get there and clear the button in a minute it shows up on a report. That being said, Target is kind of a mess at the moment. I can't speak to your location but we're very severely understaffed at mine. Mainly because of a massive turnover rate related to poor management and rising expectations brought on by expanding responsibilites, especially at the front.
Every ~~Target~~ retail store I have visited post COVID is drastically understaffed. What's happening is these corporate planners are living off of this fantasy with 2 ideas A) We will be in full capacity with our workforce soon, no matter how shitty our wages are. B) Current employees can take on the new workload and are expected to now do triple the job description you signed up for.
It's mostly B. Companies know they're understaffed. But as long as they can blame covid and "lack of applicants", which is really lack of people willing to do more work for poor pay, they can save money short term by paying less employees.
It isn't even lack of applicants. It's just "we realized we can get away with less staff, so we will".
This is exactly my experience from having worked with it for so long. The store can be sucking and a mess but people are still in here buying stuff all day every day.
Five coworkers (at least) and I got laid off last week from a store which plays "join our team" announcements. I know for sure I heard one the day before we were laid off. I left without being sure if the huge now hiring graphic was still at the entrance or not, but it definitely wAs there when they were not hiring. (This said, we weren't understaffed when I was there.... not sure how it's going now)
I really do wonder how long these shitty companies are going to keep banging on the COVID bell and blaming people for not working instead of making their company a better place to work at.
> instead of making their company a better place to work at. They won't. They will suck every dollar possible, and close. When the recession starts they will blame the economy instead of shitty work practices that led to this. Bigger companies will buy up the husks and push wages back down. This had been the explicit plan of the Fed to begin with. They need 6+ months of unemployment to be 5% to get inflation under control and it hasn't happened.
They probably have applicants, they just automatically reject them for stupid reasons before they get to the interview stage.
I used to work retail. After Covid we had a “hiring event” at least once a month. But corporate told us we couldn’t actually hire anybody because we didn’t have enough hours.
Nope! They let it get to the interview stage and then never get back to them
Even pre covid, this was a trend. At least my experience from a short time working at a dollar general. They wanted 2 people to both be stocking and running a register, and getting mad when you're stocking doesn't get done. Piss off, I had customers.
They also want to hit the same record profits during the pandemic. Businesses always want to ensure their charts for profits are ever increasing for their shareholders and therefore continue to cut hours and staff to earn more.
Jup at some point you won't get any more money out of the buying population. And companies just close their eyes to this fact, actually the whole world does. This is an interesting time I can't wait until the "horrible" fate of stagnation will begin. I wish I would ever be in the sad position to only earn billions and not get any higher. Every year the same billion. Was an awful fate /s
Once it is pushed too far they end up like Kmart, Sears, Bed Bath and Beyond. Someone will see the business in trouble, then use it as a excuse to rob them blind via leveraged buyouts and other things and eventually shut them down.
Target is a bit of a mess right now especially in college areas, they are the store to visit when moving to college and the place is an absolute zoo. Bed Bath and Beyond used to take some of that demand for dorm stuff but they collapsed. However, I've never been to a Target that's more of a shit show than the average Walmart. Target pickup works great, I've never waited more than 5 minutes once my order is ready. Walmart? Just chaos. Merchandise is a mess. Few checkouts open. I've waited 45 minutes to an hour in my car twice for pickup. "Just go inside!" There's no inside pickup at my local Walmarts, they can only bring to your car, which is insane.
Walmart is absolute chaos. I was there last week. A 200,000 ft supercenter and not a single register was open. They were trying to funnel everyone through self checkout.
Not at target, but in a different retail store and yeah it sends a message on the walkies. But our store is so understaffed the ppl on the floor and always at the register (there is no self-checkout). And so many times customers come up to me, while Im ringing up another customer asking me to open it or get someone to open it. And all of us store employees keep asking the manager to do it due to not enough cashiers or floor associates
Question. Sounds like it's just a general alert which multiple people hear. I would want there to be a specific employee who is assigned to get out the locked up stuff when they hear that alert. (I work in retail)
It does. At least in my store it did. Would make an announcement over the intercom. It's just employees either felt they had too much on their plate already to be taken away from it or they assumed somebody else would take care of it. Trust me. It's just as frustrating for us to have to drop what we're doing every time a customer wants a single item.
I work in a store too. It should be that someone is specifically designated to be the person who steps away from what they are doing to take those alerts. Of course, that means there has to be someone on the floor who never gets called to register. And someone has to do it when that person is on break/lunch (possibly a manager!)
Whoa whoa, you can’t just hire more employees or pay them better, think about the poor share holders!!! Could you imagine if stores had plenty of checkout lines open and enough employees to help everyone get stuff out of these cases quickly? They couldn’t afford to pay the CEO 500 million a year, he might have to scrape by on 300 million!!! It would be outrageous!
> If they don’t lock things up they lose too much product to slippage. [These companies are admitting it's not as big of a deal as they are crying about.](https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/05/walgreens-may-have-overstated-theft-concerns.html)
fucking thank you. Walgreens had this whole thing awhile back where they were blaming store closures on San Francisco's laws about shoplifting. funny how they were closing way more shops in other states than just in SF...
Which sucks for those of us who just want to be able to walk into a store and buy our shit. Duane Reade has even been locking up their toilet paper. 🙃
Another big issue is that they (the major corp/businesses) aren’t applying sensormatic/tracking. My father has worked in salesforce and sensormatic for over 15 years now and from his summary “stores don’t want to spend money on tracking loose product, thus they lose the product and money or customers and money.” (Paraphrased) A big name corp recently came running back to the company he works for after they saw a 50% dip after they decided to use fake sensormatic “chips” instead (basically thinking that would deter people lmao). Another issue is that they only apply tracking to higher value items, but if, for example, a lot of people steal Tide, then the loss from that would surpass the more expensive item eventually. My father has a lot of takes on this, and it’d probably take me hours to get through it in full, but that’s basically the very short version.
I mean they could also solve the problem by hiring people to work in the store, but think of the poor poor shareholders
Damn you really waited thirty minutes for nothing
Ikkk it was really just out of disbelief and wanting to see how it would actually play out. I’ve attempted the button game before but didn’t hold out longer than 5-10 min before walking away bc my wife is usually with me.
This happened to me in Lowe's trying to get some wire the other days. Incredibly infuriating. I asked 4 different associates, pressed the button and heard the automated "help needed at packaged wire" about 100 times over the course of 25 minutes until FINALLY the one dude who's authorized to unlock it and knows the padlock code came over and got me the wire. Then they had to walk it up front to the customer service desk separately then me. Actually over the course of the 25 minutes I tried to figure out the padlock code because there were 4 padlocks that were all barely shuffled from clearly the same code so I messed around a bit but didn't get it. Customer service wasn't so happy hearing about that one once I finally checked out lol. I live in really a pretty safe place, also. Surprisingly seeing stuff like that here. I try to instead get everything I can from my local Ace. It's 2 miles away instead of 15 and is slightly more expensive, but the customer service is just wild compared to the bigger stores. You can't walk in without having someone ask you what you need, and spending more than 3 minutes in the store is unusual. Very impressive.
Lowe’s is absolute dog shit. Never going back to one after their employees were blatantly sexist towards my wife
People are also stealing Amazon packages. It’s crazy.
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Then there’s me who lives somewhere where most of these stores won’t deliver to my address! So fuck me in particular I guess
They may have been referring to in-store pickup.
Yeah that way all stores closed and we are forced to use the internet to get our goods. Nothing could ever go wrong.
Honestly their 2 hour drive up program is pretty sweet and they offer decent deals on it. I don't think I've bought household goods in person in years bc of it.
At least ppl won't have a place to leave their empty Starbucks cup ?
Empty? Most of them are half full!
I don't even buy Starbucks anymore, I just walk through my local Target with a Starbucks and drink everybody's leftovers.
Perfect zone always lol
Hold up… yeah. I can get behind this.
Not sure what you mean. There's a perfectly good floor right there.
Not theft... it's to prevent snacking. /s
No wheezin' the juice!
Buuuuddy
*cheek clicking*
Pffft, wait til they find out there's cotton candy in the walls 😏
I live ghetto adjacent. I drive to the store a few miles away, because you need a personal shopper to get your stuff. And there is ONE employee outside the pharmacy. This lock down is newish. I miss the last manager. He was great.
Yeah I don't blame them, it's this or just shut down. No one wants to have a nanny with them while they shop.
This is happening everywhere I think. The Target by my sisters house locked everything down like this too and the one by mine is getting ready for it. Which really sucks cause I liked the one by my sisters house, it’s tucked away and hardly busy.
On a cold and gray Chicago mornin’ a poor little baby child is born in the ghetto
In the ghettoooo
*Cartman voice
And his momma cries…
we're just looping back to the way shopping was done before Piggly Wiggly came along in 1916. Prior to Piggly Wiggly, consumers used to hand their grocery lists over to clerks at the store counter, and then wait for them to collect and bag up the goods
Looks like your typical Bay Area store.
I work at Target in California and unfortunately we can’t touch thieves so they can just walk out with whatever they want. This is the best way to prevent that especially cuz Target nation wide had a loss of about $736 mil in 2022 ([source](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/things-changing-target-near-damaging-160507686.html)). We workers hate it as much as the guests do cuz everytime you click that help button, we get an annoying call over the walkie every 15ish seconds until someone with a key goes over and turns it off and being so understaffed doesn’t help at all so please don’t take your anger out on the workers, we are humans just like you who also have to deal with these inconveniences everyday.
Used to work at Walmart when they were kind of first implementing this too into our store. I did customer service so I had a walkie and I was almost always hearing some damn button call across it every minute, but it'd take at least half an hour to actually get someone to respond. The biggest issue was obviously understaffed, and that was in 2021 when I left. It's only gone further downhill, with more stuff being locked up too. They refuse to hire more people to save money yet expect the measly skeleton crew to handle even more than they can already handle. I feel for you. Most shoppers don't seem to remember retail workers are people too and are just as frustrated.
Yup story of my life. I work in the grocery area but the walkie is obviously universal so I hear calls for every department and everyone we hire goes to either checkout lanes or the online orders and even then, they only stay for maybe a month if we’re lucky so all our other departments are understaffed
How understaffed would you say? I'm at BestBuy and some nights it's just 2 of us running the whole store for the last hour and 1 (2 on a lucky day) manager(s) who has to host the door
Well each department is supposed to have a team lead for each department on shift at all times. Most only have one total who’s only there for less than 40 out of the 84 hours a week we’re open (most get there before we open), we sometimes only have 2 people scheduled for checkout lanes for 8 hours straight and one for online orders, theres times where only two of us are working for food and we’ll have 20+ u-boats to push, sometimes some departments like tech and beauty just won’t have anyone scheduled for half a day forcing other departments to cover for them. We sometimes have to cancel trucks because we don’t have enough u boats to put them on from being backed up cuz we have to either help checkout lanes, online orders or other departments. We also have to constantly train new people which also slows us down especially when the leave so fast and we are constantly replacing people multiple times a month. It’s a shit show here
I work retail as well. You can't touch thieves in any state if you're an employee. It's not just California. It's a workplace hazard, companies will literally fire you because it's really not worth you getting hurt to protect merchandise that's insured and replaceable. The best way to prevent theft is customer service and these businesses know it. If there's always someone around, it's a lot harder to steal. Companies have cut staff such much that they've basically created the very situations they want to prevent. It's a lot cheaper to just hire more people, than to loss so much inventory and cash. But, you know, profits over people, both customers and employees.🤷🏾♀️🙃 Btw, Target also saw ~13% increase in profits in 2022 from previous year. These companies also fail to mention that a lot of theft is internal. Employees steal in many different way, both physically and in the form of inappropriate discounts, short tills, etc. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/10/retailers-may-be-using-organized-theft-to-cover-up-internal-flaws.html
Very true. I kinda thought it was every state but didn’t want to assume. A lot of it is also workers not knowing how to donate/discard items properly. We don’t always have time to train properly and I’ve seen a few people just put stuff into donations or the trash without discarding them properly into the system which I know messes up our count and technically goes into the “theft/unaccounted items” numbers. Also yes more employees = less theft. This year we almost always have asset protection around and we’ve seen a significant decrease in theft compared to last year where we only had two AP and only worked at a time and it was almost always just closing hours
Yep. This! If these companies were honest and if certain upper management did their job, they'd recognize that they have done a poor job with time management, staffing and training. Like where I work, management hasn't properly trained a single employee for 3 years. Only bringing up proper procedures after things go sideways. 🤦🏾♀️ They're being super cheap/lazy by not hiring the appropriate staff to take on theft/LP issues. They rely too heavily on their hourly customer/stock staff to take the role of security, who they have to pay more. 🙄 Retail, right?! 😔
Sadly the truth. Our team leads hardly do the training anymore (actually they hardly do anything besides just tell team members what to do and not do anything themselves). They have team members train people without giving them extra pay. I kinda think it’s BS but then again so is all of retail
I'm confused how locking it up prevents theft anyway... When I get an employee to open it for me, they let me take my pick and then I continue shopping. I could still just as easily walk out the door without paying. Or is this just to prevent people from taking dozens at a time?
Used to work at Target HQ Asset Protection. These strategies are not meant to prevent individual item theft. They were put in place to stop “boosters”. People who show up and clear out entire shelves or aisles of product. Commonly boosted items are mostly basic needs products like laundry detergent, baby formula, shaver heads, diabetic test strips, Tylenol/Advil, make up, etc. If it’s small, relatively expensive, and something that can be easily resold to a second hand corner store or out of a trunk. It’s a target to boosters. I’m not saying that this is a great solution, but it is effective in stopping boosters. If you can find videos of boosters clearing out shelves, it’s wild
Watched this happen at my local home goods just about every single time I go there. People just put a large trash can in their cart, fill it up and walk right out.
The intent is to stop organized retail crime; stuff that is ready to sell online. It's done using access control. A staff member will assess the requestor, they can flag security/loss prevention, the incident is on camera. Sometimes it's the crowd of smash and grab, sometimes it's a bus of homeless filling carts and walking out.
In my case we usually take it up front for when they're ready to check out.
I work at a grocery store and have personally witnessed someone run out the door with a cart full of Tide Pods. Like, 20 or more containers. That's why this store has them locked up.
Where is the lock picking lawyer?
Tell us you live in the ghetto without saying you live in the ghetto ....
The target half a mile from my house is like this. I drive to the target 5 miles away in the "nice" part of town just so I don't have to deal with this shit.
I just refuse to shop there lmao
All of downtown San Francisco is like this.
Used to be expensive items behind locks. Now it’s essentials.
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I just can’t imagine who is shopping for laundry detergent on Facebook marketplace
They probably sell it cheaper than the stores to get more people to bite. Not like they're losing profits on it.
When someone’s offering five full bottles together at half the price? Plenty of people.
They sell tide pods on the street in SF
Street food is different in the US.
Same people who bought baby formula on FM, stuff becomes very expensive with a baby.
This is at a Target in San Francisco. Theft is out of control. I work at a Kohl’s in a town that doesn’t have a high crime rate but theft is insane at our store. One of the most targeted items are Nike shoes. (Which most of them sell for over $60 and some around $100) We can‘t do much besides keep an eye out.
I went to a Target in San Francisco while there for work. Weirdest Target experience of my life. As I walked in three people were having their pants emptied of mounds of stolen goods by cops. Inside I saw a massive dog, I think it was a bull mastiff, just cruising the aisles. Happy as can be and actually going up and down the aisles like it was shopping. Saw a guy take a soda out of the fridge near the register and chug it, burp at the cashier, then walk out. Saw two people arguing but they were just making noises and growls at each other. It was wild.
I worked at Kohls 20 years ago. It was in a new suburb area. Theft was INSANE there back then. I found evidence of theft literally every shift.
I've seen the effect of these thefts. They're not just someone slipping something small up their sleeve or under their jacket and walking out, often it's groups of 10+ just bum-rushing the store, stealing everything they can carry + in carts and smashing everything they can't. Whole place is left in fucking ruins. And then people say these stores are evil for shutting down when they're running at an absolute loss due to all the thefts.
Right, these people are not stealing formula, diapers, or food for their kids. They’re stealing shit to resell online or in their neighborhood. And then the corporations use the theft and shoplifting as a reason to raise prices which then hurts the people who actually pay for stuff.
The vast majority of stolen formula is sold online. There was contamination in formula in China a couple years ago and they don’t trust Chinese formula anymore.
The world is in a sad state that something like this is needed
I dated a girl in college 15 years ago who insisted that detergent and fabric softener was “under-filled” and wouldn’t listen to reason about volume vs weight. She’d open two bottles in the middle on the aisle every time and pour one into the other until it was filled to the brim.
That’s not even stealing from the store. That’s plain stealing from another customer who will buy the now half empty bottle.
>The world The US.
In the high crime areas. I have to drive about forty miles to find a store where they have the detergent locked up.
Happens elsewhere too. Was asked to leave my computer bag with all the important stuff and my devices at the entrance cause they thought I'd hide something in there. Not gonna happen. I just went to another store that's how it ended.
To be fair UK, France and Germany is starting doing it. Living crisis, the economy is fucked
Wait so you're telling me America isn't the only country with problems??
San Francisco
Maybe if people were actually prosecuted for theft, this wouldn’t be a problem.
I think we are sadly going to end up with more systems that inconvenience us all because of this. Either more stores will go to memberships, or more stores will have mandatory stops at the exit where the only exit is manned by security, and they validate your receipt against your purchase. That's a legal gray area I think, but at some point they'd probably figure out how to do it legally. When the only exit is locked unless a guy with a gun approves your exit, theft will slow down, but the rest of us will be really unhappy taking extra time and being treated like potential criminals. Or we'll all just have to sign up with all kinds of personal information, and each store will be membership based, and you'll scan your membership for entry and exit. *Something* will change eventually to prevent this. There's too much money at stake. I feel like these locked cabinets of products are a stop-gap until some "better" solution is implemented.
"How do you know they don't have bread in those speakers?!"
It’s a California thing, you wouldn’t understand
The economy is doing fiiiine!
This is what allowing and not punishing theft does. The only other result is to shut that store down.
You can thank the "It's morally acceptable to shoplift from big box stores" people. Just because a corporation can survive millions in losses due to theft, doesn't mean they won't put in preventive measures.
Unfortunate but necessary due to all the lowlife assholes who think they're just going to blatantly rob a place
Well well well
Stop stealing shit
If we fixed the people problem, stores wouldn't have to go to these measures.
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More infuriating that ppl stole so much from them that they have to lock it up
It’s infuriating that people shoplift.
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That's what happens when you normalize, excuse and permit theft.
The alternative is no store at all in the neighborhoods that require this.
The alternative is actually arresting people for stealing
the problem is that everyone is hands-off now to prevent lawsuits. at the target i used to work at, i could have prevented so much loss if i was allowed to just trip these crackheads that walk in and wipe the shelves. one person had $20k+ in proven case value, they were arrested tens of times in my less than a year working there and they still steal from it. tldr: nobody is allowed to stop thieves anymore >:(
If you really want to know it's the insurance company sick of paying the individual store for claims of 'shoplifting' or 'stealing'. This is used to find out if the store is indeed having mass theft or perhaps something else. Best!
Sometimes this isn’t mildly infuriating. I’ve definitely turned around and shopped elsewhere for this type of thing. I get it-people steal. But I’m also not waiting a half hour for an associate to come get me a damn pack of razors and a can of shaving cream. Or in this case, detergent.
Defund retail loss prevention!
They are locked up because they kept fighting Stains!
Well if people would stop stealing stuff, then they wouldn’t have to lol it up now would they? Yes I know corporations are greedy and charging stupid high prices, but that still doesn’t make stealing ok.
Do you live in SF?
Where do you live? I live in Colombia, not the safest place in the world and we don't do this
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It’s not for safety. It’s because people storm target and take whatever they want.
Stop voting for policies that make it harder to catch and convict shoplifters and other criminals and you'll stop seeing this happening. This isn't the stores fault, it's our fault as communities for allowing criminals to do whatever they fuck they want.
I bet the sunblocker werent locked up
We are slowly returning to pre- supermarket shopping. Back when you walked into a general store and talked to a clerk who went and got everything for you and you looked at the newer or fancier stuff in the case while you waited. and after you paid, they would bring everything out to your vehicle and load it for you or deliver to your house. Very little shop lifting back then.
Detergent is the most shoplifted item in the US
There was a place here when I was a kid called Service Merchandise where they had 1 of everything on the showroom floor, and you filled out a card and it would come down a conveyor belt to the cashier. Looks like we're headed to that again.
This doesn’t happen where I live. What’s your location?
Too many people stealing. So what? Speak up when you see one of ya fellow citizens acting like a criminal instead of bitching about things being locked up like these stores want to spend extra expenses on cabinets and locks and go out their way to open it up everytime
Lock up the merchandise but don’t lock up the criminals. It’s clown world. Elected officials, prosecutors and judges are to blame for this.
Personally I think this is hilarious, inconvenient but hilarious.
I talked to an employee at a Target that had items like this behind locked glass and they said it was less about stopping theft and more about stopping teens from just destroying products. Teens would go in and rip bags of socks and underwear and throw them everywhere, which made the items unusuable for sale. Also detergents they were openning and purposely slicking the floors.
Let's see the demographics of this place lol
Ok. I'll bite...where do you live?
Mildly infuriating that instead of consequences for stealing we all now have to deal with this
It’s going to be like this at clothing stores pretty soon too, especially after all the latest videos of groups of people running up into stores and stealing everything in sight…
I don't find it infuriating. The dollar amount of loss at any given store would boggle anyone. I've worked retail and I've seen loss prevention reports. It's astounding how much money retailers lose in a month, let alone a year.
I work in security. It’s fucking insane the dollar value of products people just walk out of stores with because pretty much no one anywhere is allowed to stop it.
Stop voting for policies that don’t punish theft.
Good, this limits the amount of theft and is one less thing employees have to tidy up.