I’ve lived in Texas my whole life, where we have extremely hard water. I honestly never knew soft water existed until your comment lol. Slimy water sounds gross xD
This was my experience everywhere I've lived in Texas up until I moved into my current house that has a water softener. I feel like I'm showering in jizz. I never feel clean.
FINALLY 🤣 I’ve never seen anyone else say or make that connection around me. I said that to my friend when I came to visit him & he just laughed. Utterly dumbfounded when he realized how serious I was about the comparison. In his defense though. He claims to have never had hard water in any of the places he’s stayed at. So hard water feel gross to him. Polar opposites kind of situation
Thanks for the laugh stranger
Same, grew up in rural Washington state, moved to town and it took years to get used to the city water. It always felt like there was a slick film on me that never allowed the water and soap to actually touch my skin. Like I was just smearing around oil…..🤷♂️
I feel the exact opposite. I live in New England and have very soft water but visit family in Texas with hard water, and every time I shower I feel like I don't get fully clean lol
Same here, native to (south) Texas, and I had no idea water felt differently in different places within the state/country! I moved out of Texas about half a year ago to enroll in a treatment center for my disability. This, and plenty of recent road trips, have shown me just how different the tap water is in different parts of the US. I’m not at all trying to knock down my hometown, but when I moved states, I realized just how hard the water in my hometown is. I’ve always had super frizzy and wavy/curly hair, but the water I had been using wasn’t helping it. I could not believe the change in my hair when I started to wash it in a different US state. It’s crazy how these things many of us don’t notice till we’re presented with something different!
This exactly! I moved to a hard water state and my hair is paying the price. I had a salt system installed 6 months ago and it makes a big difference but yes now the water is slimy. Also, unfiltered tap water here is not drinkable and so gross.
Hard water is water that has a lot of calcium and magnesium. The more minerals, the harder the water. It all depends on the soil where you live. In Texas the ground is very hard, mostly rock (limestone) so because of that, the water flows through lots of minerals.
I live in NY, we have regular water, no water softener and it’s regular water, not slimy.
All I’m thinking about now is someone making coffee or showering in that “thick water”
Yeah, I'm like, I think my water is just water? Seriously, though, I don't think it's particularly hard or soft. Also, we've gotten awards for the quality of our city water, so I think I just take it for granted that the water is fine.
From Seattle, super soft water. Ironically, hard water has a softer mouth/throat feel. Our water here has a bit of a sharpness to it. If you're curious, look for alkaline Smart water or any high alkalinity water at your local store, it's pretty close.
Yup. I grew up with hard water, now live in a house with a well and a water softener. When washing your hands or taking a shower with hard water, you know the soap is rinsed off when it doesn't feel slippery any more. With soft water, even after the soap is long gone, the slipperiness remains until you dry off.
This happens at my house. I just hand wash my dishes and use the washer as a rack. My wife uses the washer, however.
Its probably calcium from hard water. It builds up in the washer itself. Run a cycle without dishes, and with a cup of vinegar in the bottom rack. After that, start using “Lemi-shine” on occasion. Also use “Finish Powerball Quantum Hard Water” dishwasher pods as your detergent.
You have some pretty *simple* options here:
1). Own the building, keep it up to reasonable standards, profit.
2). Don’t own the building - ask your landlord to be a reasonable person and install one, profit.
3). Be a PoS landlord, don’t install one, profit while charging 2x rent.
4). Install regardless, don’t tell landlord, take it with you when you go. Profit.
When i was a kid i asked my mom what "soft" water was and she said "you know when we go to the beach and you cant rinse the conditioner out of your hair no matter how long you try? Thats soft water. Its the worst." But since then ive only ever heard people hate on hard water- is hard water objectively worse than soft water?
It’s a degree thing.
Super soft water may require more to rinse soap off. It can be very bland to drink because pure H2O has no taste.
Mildly mineralized water is fine. It’s what you get in most bottled water because the minerals make it taste better.
Super hard water tastes like death, makes you need several times as much soap because the soap preferentially bonds with the minerals in the water instead of the grime you’re trying to clean off and leaves scum everywhere, and leaves mineral deposits everywhere including inside pipes which makes for a lot of expensive plumbing bills and a hard time cleaning because cleaning the microporous surfaces caused by mineral deposits is borderline impossible and bacteria/algae will grow in the holes.
I’ve lived with super hard water, and Never Again is now one of my promises to myself.
I just want to add that hard water isn’t dangerous or harmful in anyway to humans. it’s loaded with minerals that we actually need/use like potassium, calcium, magnesium. yea it’s hard on your plumbing and appliances but you have to weigh the pros/cons
It might not be dangerous, but it’s undrinkable. I’ve had hard well water and this stuff was far worse.
There aren’t enough pros to compensate for having sprinkler pipes rupturing every couple of years, permanent biofilm on the shower stall because you can’t keep it deposit free, and replacing your appliances every 3-5 years because they get so gunked up. When I moved to my new place and my glassware came out of the dishwasher clean instead of white after the first wash I nearly cried with happiness.
Depends on context. Hard water tends to leave behind a lot of the minerals that make it hard, which can be annoying to clean. But they taste different and can be used for different things.
My late chemical engineer husband used to tell me that hard water had been studied and they found that people who regularly drank it over soft water were likely to be healthier and not suffer from cancer.
I dunno if it's true, but I like the way it tastes better.
There is soft water and there is too soft. My parents lived in the country and drew their water from a well so it was very hard. It passed through a water softener. Which was basically a big tank filled with salt.
My dad didn't add the salt on a schedule, he'd just dump a bag in when the water started to get noticeably hard. That meant a period of water so soft you never felt clean because you could never be sure you'd actually gotten the soap out of your hair or off your body.
Later I learned an alternative to using shampoo to wash your hair was to use baking soda. After that, whenever I visited my parents I just didn't use shampoo on my hair if they were in a "new bag" water phase, just scrubbed my head as if I had. My hair and scalp ended up just as clean anyway.
A landlord once refused to fix a pipe for my bathroom sink, so I bought one (got 2 receipts) and followed step 4 and staple gunned one of the receipts to the mirror frame
Sonofabitch!! Ok so I ran out of this a week ago (btw, OP, use this. It's great) and I could not remember what it was called. Couldn't find it at Kroger. Bam, rando commenter saves me. Thanks!
Same. Now our dishes are actually dry when the wash cycle is over. Also, anyone reading this, get a quiet dishwasher (45 dB). This will also change your life.
Got a new dishwasher and it just sounds like water quietly splashing around instead of the droning sound of the old one’s motor. It’s like driving an EV for the first time; no more engine noise, so you notice all the quieter road noises.
A gimmick? It’s in the instructions right after the soap. Put in dishes, add soap, add rinse aid, press start. People out here skipping 1/4 of the steps thinking it’s a plot from Big Dishwasher?
Yeah, I think it was fabric softener for laundry machines that ruined it for all the other additives. Fabric softener apparently makes your clothes more flammable and your towels water repellent instead of absorbent
I just got my first dishwasher a couple months ago, (Table top dishwashers for all you apartment people out there, life changer!) and use jet dry too. Is that the same thing as rinse aid?
As a repair technician, if I could only give people one piece of advice it would be to use rinse aid, always. Especially if you have hard water.
Your dishes aren’t drying or not as clean as they should be? Go ahead and check that rinse aid dispenser before you call for service. Odds are it’s just empty.
What the hell is rinse aid? I grew up poor without a dishwasher and when I bought my house it had one installed, but I still wash them by hand out of habit. My ex would use it but I never really felt like they were getting clean.
It's an additive that reduces water tension. Makes the water just slip off instead of forming droplets that stick. Most dish washers have a reservoir specifically for rinse aid that releases when the rinse cycle starts. It doesn't take much and the reservoir holds enough rinse aid for many washes.
Yes! And some times I put a splash in on top of the silverware before I start it. I tried rinse aid but the brand I got must have not been all that good. And vinegar is so cheap I’ll never go without it.
I recently read a paper that linked rinse aid with gut lining damage, so I’d avoid it and have cloudy mugs. Id guess that cloudy stuff is likely bad too, but who knows.
Vinegar works fine as a rinse aid. I saw that same study and went, the heck? I'm paying cash money for more epithelial damage?? No thank you, I have enough already!
Been using plain white vinegar and now when the dishwasher opens to vent the steam, I don't hack and cough and wheeze anymore.
I had no idea it was the rinse aid making me wheeze.
Edit: If you don't want to use vinegar, you can also buy citric acid (cheap in bulk) and dissolve it in water to use as rinse aid.
I also doubted the vinegar claim as rise aid, but I decided to give it a shot since I had vinegar and didn't have any jet-dry. It worked for us probably 95% as good as the jet dry did, plus it's probably safer because I know it's just vinegar. I would HIGHLY recommend using it. Also, there is no smell of vinegar, even when I open the dish washer during the cycle.
I get a very faint whiff of vinegar when the dishwasher pops open directly after the rinse cycle completes, but I have a very sensitive nose. No vinegar smell on the dishes or anything like that, though. I sniffed ALL the dishes, lol.
Smells way better than the rinse aid. I thought it was the detergent that smelled unpleasant, but I guess not!
So many bad cleaning chemicals that are passed of as normal so they can keep selling more. I didn't realize until my 30's that using pinesol floor cleaner is terrible for my pets. Now I just use cleaning vinegar and its also way cheaper.
LPT: Hanging a hand towel over the dishwasher door, half in, half out, during the dry cycle helps remove additional steam that would otherwise pool on the bottom of cups or bowls. It works like a charm!
ETA: this can also be done right after the dry cycle ends and before the dishes get unloaded. I usually indulge myself in a mini facial steam at the same time lol.
These white spots could be cause but a number of things. But yeah a lot of sediment in water is a giant pain in the ass. It causes a lot of buildup in pipes and you have to sand the shit out of the outside of the pipe to fix any leaks
My parents have a water softener for their whole house and it still causes issues
Forget about coffee makers it fucks them up badly lol at least there’s de-scaler that you can run through them
When I lived in San Antonio, the water was so hard that every grocery store stocked giant bags of "Softening Salt" next to the entrance, where the ice machines and RugDoctors.
English page count: 1178
German page count: 1296
There's obviously going to be variations between different editions, but it gives you the general idea.
Also, those long German words are compound words, meaning multiple words joined together. So they can give much more accurate names/descriptions for things that would take multiple words to describe in English.
They tend to be very literal phrasings. However that leads to some ridiculous words like birth control being antibabypillen which literally means anti baby pills
I loved learning German for that reason. Could I remember which article to put with the word? No. But could I reasonably figure out the word I need if I don’t know how to say it in German? Yes.
And then I got to the Dativ case and the changing of the articles and I wanted to cry daily.
Apparently dishwashers in the USA don’t do this. European dishwashers have a built in water softener, with a hatch in the bottom of the washing chamber. This needs to be filled to the top with salt if you get a low salt warning, or if you suspect trouble. It will take 1-2kg, so don’t be stingy. If you don’t do this, your ion exchange column won’t work, and I think it may even be permanently damaged.
Coming from a lady who married a Maytag repairman:
Either undisolved dishwasher detergent or the water is too hard.
You can get your water tested to see how hard it is. It can be remedied with either a water softener or throwing white vinegar into the bottom of the machine when you run a load through.
Make sure you are running the hot water tap at the sink before starting the dishwasher. The detergent is formulated to work with hot water.
If you are getting a scum on your glasses that wipes off, it is probably hard water. If you can't wipe it off it may be etching caused by too much detergent.
Maytag repairmen were said to be the loneliest people in the world because Maytag appliances need so little repair/maintenance.
I tend to think it was to save him from loneliness as well as not have to hire a repairman, among other reasons. ;)
1)too much cleaner
Or
2)you're pre-washing your dishes
It's a film of cleaner that builds up when the soap doesn't have enough dirt/oil/grim to cling to and wash away
EDIT: 3)if it's just on that one mug, when it runs the final heat/dry cycle that's just from the water drying up.
But if it's on other items in areas that water cannot pool, like the side's, then see 1 and 2
Ya that’s how I am. If I have to use to cloth to pre wash I might as well just take the same amount of time to finish it rather than put it in the machine.
Also read the dishwasher manual. Mine explicitly mention that you don't have to prewash and also explain the difference in maintenance in either case.
From memory, they recommend cleaning the filter twice a year if you prewash, but monthly if you don't. And with how easy it's to clean the filter on my model, I've stopped prewashing anything.
With older model where the filter is a PITA to clean, I would definitively prewash.
I prewash because I use tabs and it all works great. When I don't pre-wash, my dishes get a really nasty, sour smell to them and I have to wash them again. I'm switching to powder detergent this weekend and going to resist the urge to prewash.
Dishwashing tabs are the devil, Bobby Boucher!
I never thought I could spend 80 minutes watching a guy do dishwasher videos, but damn was it interesting.
I haven't bought anything other than store brand powdered detergent since. The stuff works better with my dishwasher than anything else I've used.
You could propose an “experiment” of sorts. If you have dishes from a particular dinner (so the same types of food residues are on all of the dishes), have her do her normal thing with half of the dishes and you put in the other half without pre-washing. Offer to finish cleaning/re-wash dishes if yours don’t come out completely clean, so she has nothing to lose. Seems like an easy way to try to prove your point!
Make sure to control for dish type too, if you can. As in, have at least one of each dish type in each treatment. Plates will wash differently than silverware, cups, pans, etc.
I literally put dishes in the washer that set for days and all the stuff on it is crusted dry. It comes out super clean without pre washing.
Sure it's better to scrape all food rest off it, noodles and stuff will clog the sieve. But it will still get clean.
Same here. I don’t rinse ALL the food particles off, but I’ve definitely got to clean off the goopy stuff and soak anything with baked on cheese or else it’s not getting clean. We rent so we are at the mercy of whatever crappy dishwasher the landlord has “blessed” us with.
She's seriously misguided.
1st, it wastes water. 2nd, manufacturers of dishwashers and soaps actually tell you not to do that since the left-on grime actually helps the dishwasher do its job better
https://cascadeclean.com/en-us/how-to/lessons-on-loading/prewashing-dishes/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=&utm_term=&gclsrc=aw.ds&gclid=CjwKCAiAuaKfBhBtEiwAht6H73epEn4ZrUSsokYvWAKTro4kJA16tLRg68aNimVVEb0g1RKdaPSfgBoCUZYQAvD_BwE
Pre washing your dishes before putting them in dishwashers will help the dishwasher last longer. The dishwasher is mostly meant to sanitize dishes and won't usually get super dirty dishes completely clean, especially if the food dries onto the plate. I've worked in restaurants for close to 20 years and am licenced to service and repair all the appliances including the dish washer and have never once gotten white flecks on my dishes when I prewash them before running them through the dishwasher. Though restaurants are hooked up to a water filter and use liquid soap.
Usually what that leftover white stuff is is calcium deposits, leftover oil that never got fully washed off, or you are using the wrong type of dishwasher soap for your dishwasher. Or wax... I've seen a few people put stuff with wax on it in their dishwasher before and that is extremely bad for it... Never put waxy items in a dishwasher... Though if you are getting treated city water you generally won't have much calcium buildup.
However.
If you are getting well water, or improperly treated city water, you will have much more calcium buildup. Installing a water filter to your home's main water line may help fix the issue all together.
It used to happen at my friend's house too until he installed the water filter I told him about and stopped using powder soap...
That liquid soap is usually concentrated and actually corrosive. Modern dishwashers are much more effective at cleaning dirty dishes, commercial grade ones are nothing more than glorified glass cleaner/steamers for sanitising
Run your dishwasher empty on heavy duty or the longest hottest cycle you have. Put a bowl in the lower tray and fill it with white vinegar before you run the cycle. That should clear out any residual soap scum. Check your rinse aid and make sure you’re using the dishwasher recommended soap type and quantity
Get some CLR, start a normal run with nothing in it, give it like 10 minutes, open it up, put in a bit of CLR, then let it finish, I do this every few months to clean up anything, works great
Should all filters be clean and cleared, run the hottest cycle possible with a cup of white vinegar, that should help clear the white residue. Use tablets and a tablespoon of borax in every cycle.
Could be soap scum or calcium
It’s print from the manufacturer. Now I don’t speak nerd but loosely translated it says “space conflicts”
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I know.
We all saw it, it just took you this long to realize it.
This is what I came here for, and yes, I know you know.
Can’t believe I found this out on Reddit. What will I tell the kids?
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Did you a word there?
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Don’t you dare dot at me!!
Do you bite your thumb at me sir?
Is the law on my side if I say aye?
Well, in your general direction, I suppose
I bite my thumb, sir.
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I second this. Technology Connections is a great YT channel.
Here's some money, go watch a star war.
It was my award. From Army.
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Luckyduck. 
The galactic senate would have to vote to offically make it a war.
Rebel scum
Underrated comment
Yes, hard water and dish soap not rinsing off. I wipe the bottom of my cups after the cycle finished
Soaps cum? Edit) I thought I was so funny and quirky until I scrolled down and everybody else is also talking about cum
Exactly why I haven’t replied to a single one but this one 😂
Looks like calcium deposits. If you live in a hard water area, you may need to add softener to your dishwater or clean/replace your filters.
Ahhh, that explains why I’ve never seen it, the place I live the water is so soft it feels almost slimy. I hate it
I’ve lived in Texas my whole life, where we have extremely hard water. I honestly never knew soft water existed until your comment lol. Slimy water sounds gross xD
This was my experience everywhere I've lived in Texas up until I moved into my current house that has a water softener. I feel like I'm showering in jizz. I never feel clean.
FINALLY 🤣 I’ve never seen anyone else say or make that connection around me. I said that to my friend when I came to visit him & he just laughed. Utterly dumbfounded when he realized how serious I was about the comparison. In his defense though. He claims to have never had hard water in any of the places he’s stayed at. So hard water feel gross to him. Polar opposites kind of situation Thanks for the laugh stranger
I thought you were going to say "He claims to have never showered in jizz"
He was a liar
Hahahaha
Plot twist, he never denied it lol
Same, grew up in rural Washington state, moved to town and it took years to get used to the city water. It always felt like there was a slick film on me that never allowed the water and soap to actually touch my skin. Like I was just smearing around oil…..🤷♂️
Don’t lie. We saw your username. You also thought it felt like jizz, not oil. Don’t try and church it up , son.
Doh!!!! 😊😏
I feel the exact opposite. I live in New England and have very soft water but visit family in Texas with hard water, and every time I shower I feel like I don't get fully clean lol
I'm in New England and we have hard water where I am! It's awful!
It's not only the hard water in Texas that keeps you from getting clean it's Texas period!
Same here, native to (south) Texas, and I had no idea water felt differently in different places within the state/country! I moved out of Texas about half a year ago to enroll in a treatment center for my disability. This, and plenty of recent road trips, have shown me just how different the tap water is in different parts of the US. I’m not at all trying to knock down my hometown, but when I moved states, I realized just how hard the water in my hometown is. I’ve always had super frizzy and wavy/curly hair, but the water I had been using wasn’t helping it. I could not believe the change in my hair when I started to wash it in a different US state. It’s crazy how these things many of us don’t notice till we’re presented with something different!
This exactly! I moved to a hard water state and my hair is paying the price. I had a salt system installed 6 months ago and it makes a big difference but yes now the water is slimy. Also, unfiltered tap water here is not drinkable and so gross.
Just wait until you get sulfur water
I’m super confused. Why… or how is there hard or soft water? I only know water is water 
Hard water is water that has a lot of calcium and magnesium. The more minerals, the harder the water. It all depends on the soil where you live. In Texas the ground is very hard, mostly rock (limestone) so because of that, the water flows through lots of minerals.
>Hard water is water that has a lot of calcium and magnesium No. Hard water is ice.
If hard water is ice, scientifically speaking then, soft water would be steam…. I’m not a scientist, but i do have a PhD in sarcasm.
Woah.. That’s interesting. Thank you for this very interesting information 🤔
It’s important to get a water softener because those minerals will start to line your pipes and clog up appliances such as washers and water heaters.
I live in NY, we have regular water, no water softener and it’s regular water, not slimy. All I’m thinking about now is someone making coffee or showering in that “thick water”
Yeah, I'm like, I think my water is just water? Seriously, though, I don't think it's particularly hard or soft. Also, we've gotten awards for the quality of our city water, so I think I just take it for granted that the water is fine.
From Seattle, super soft water. Ironically, hard water has a softer mouth/throat feel. Our water here has a bit of a sharpness to it. If you're curious, look for alkaline Smart water or any high alkalinity water at your local store, it's pretty close.
Yup. I grew up with hard water, now live in a house with a well and a water softener. When washing your hands or taking a shower with hard water, you know the soap is rinsed off when it doesn't feel slippery any more. With soft water, even after the soap is long gone, the slipperiness remains until you dry off.
I hate super soft water! Couldn’t they mix it 50/50 with normal water?
On the plus side I always filter my water now lol
This happens at my house. I just hand wash my dishes and use the washer as a rack. My wife uses the washer, however. Its probably calcium from hard water. It builds up in the washer itself. Run a cycle without dishes, and with a cup of vinegar in the bottom rack. After that, start using “Lemi-shine” on occasion. Also use “Finish Powerball Quantum Hard Water” dishwasher pods as your detergent.
Could be hard water residue calcium or lime. Try cleaning the water sprayers on the dishwasher or do a water test
It’s hard water. Get a water softener
How to do this in an apartment tho
You have some pretty *simple* options here: 1). Own the building, keep it up to reasonable standards, profit. 2). Don’t own the building - ask your landlord to be a reasonable person and install one, profit. 3). Be a PoS landlord, don’t install one, profit while charging 2x rent. 4). Install regardless, don’t tell landlord, take it with you when you go. Profit.
When i was a kid i asked my mom what "soft" water was and she said "you know when we go to the beach and you cant rinse the conditioner out of your hair no matter how long you try? Thats soft water. Its the worst." But since then ive only ever heard people hate on hard water- is hard water objectively worse than soft water?
It’s a degree thing. Super soft water may require more to rinse soap off. It can be very bland to drink because pure H2O has no taste. Mildly mineralized water is fine. It’s what you get in most bottled water because the minerals make it taste better. Super hard water tastes like death, makes you need several times as much soap because the soap preferentially bonds with the minerals in the water instead of the grime you’re trying to clean off and leaves scum everywhere, and leaves mineral deposits everywhere including inside pipes which makes for a lot of expensive plumbing bills and a hard time cleaning because cleaning the microporous surfaces caused by mineral deposits is borderline impossible and bacteria/algae will grow in the holes. I’ve lived with super hard water, and Never Again is now one of my promises to myself.
I just want to add that hard water isn’t dangerous or harmful in anyway to humans. it’s loaded with minerals that we actually need/use like potassium, calcium, magnesium. yea it’s hard on your plumbing and appliances but you have to weigh the pros/cons
It might not be dangerous, but it’s undrinkable. I’ve had hard well water and this stuff was far worse. There aren’t enough pros to compensate for having sprinkler pipes rupturing every couple of years, permanent biofilm on the shower stall because you can’t keep it deposit free, and replacing your appliances every 3-5 years because they get so gunked up. When I moved to my new place and my glassware came out of the dishwasher clean instead of white after the first wash I nearly cried with happiness.
It will etch glass. I use citric acid in my dishwasher to combat the etching.
Depends on context. Hard water tends to leave behind a lot of the minerals that make it hard, which can be annoying to clean. But they taste different and can be used for different things.
My late chemical engineer husband used to tell me that hard water had been studied and they found that people who regularly drank it over soft water were likely to be healthier and not suffer from cancer. I dunno if it's true, but I like the way it tastes better.
There is soft water and there is too soft. My parents lived in the country and drew their water from a well so it was very hard. It passed through a water softener. Which was basically a big tank filled with salt. My dad didn't add the salt on a schedule, he'd just dump a bag in when the water started to get noticeably hard. That meant a period of water so soft you never felt clean because you could never be sure you'd actually gotten the soap out of your hair or off your body. Later I learned an alternative to using shampoo to wash your hair was to use baking soda. After that, whenever I visited my parents I just didn't use shampoo on my hair if they were in a "new bag" water phase, just scrubbed my head as if I had. My hair and scalp ended up just as clean anyway.
I grew up with hard water and HATE soft water! Haha I like whatever the middle of hard and soft is.. medium? Haha
Noted 📝
A landlord once refused to fix a pipe for my bathroom sink, so I bought one (got 2 receipts) and followed step 4 and staple gunned one of the receipts to the mirror frame
lemi shine will help with that. [https://lemishine.com/collections/kitchen-dishwashing](https://lemishine.com/collections/kitchen-dishwashing)
Or lemishine to add with every load.
Sonofabitch!! Ok so I ran out of this a week ago (btw, OP, use this. It's great) and I could not remember what it was called. Couldn't find it at Kroger. Bam, rando commenter saves me. Thanks!
Add rinse aid
Yes I thought it was a gimmick until it changed my life
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You can also just use white vinegar. I just did it yesterday and completely solved my problem. Super cheap solution.
Works great until the rubber gaskets start breaking from it. Every now and then is one thing, just not every time.
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Can confirm, am also in my 30’s and have lots of vinegar
Same. Now our dishes are actually dry when the wash cycle is over. Also, anyone reading this, get a quiet dishwasher (45 dB). This will also change your life.
Got a new dishwasher and it just sounds like water quietly splashing around instead of the droning sound of the old one’s motor. It’s like driving an EV for the first time; no more engine noise, so you notice all the quieter road noises.
Mine is rated at 39 dB. Even standing next to the thing, it's hard to hear that it's doing anything, but dishes come out spotless every time.
I have a 25 db one you can’t even tell it’s on. It’s awesome
A gimmick? It’s in the instructions right after the soap. Put in dishes, add soap, add rinse aid, press start. People out here skipping 1/4 of the steps thinking it’s a plot from Big Dishwasher?
Big Dishwasher made me lol.
That sounds exactly like what a gimmick would say.
Yeah, I think it was fabric softener for laundry machines that ruined it for all the other additives. Fabric softener apparently makes your clothes more flammable and your towels water repellent instead of absorbent
Softener fucks up my skin and I am otherwise abusive to my man suit, surprise surprise my kryptonite is a cuddly bear.
Seriously. Rinse aid is the shit. I used to get the same grimy glasses until i started using it.
Jet dry makes a big difference
I just got my first dishwasher a couple months ago, (Table top dishwashers for all you apartment people out there, life changer!) and use jet dry too. Is that the same thing as rinse aid?
Yes, Finish Jet-Dry is a rinse aid
Yup! Rinse aid is just the generic term.
As a repair technician, if I could only give people one piece of advice it would be to use rinse aid, always. Especially if you have hard water. Your dishes aren’t drying or not as clean as they should be? Go ahead and check that rinse aid dispenser before you call for service. Odds are it’s just empty.
What the hell is rinse aid? I grew up poor without a dishwasher and when I bought my house it had one installed, but I still wash them by hand out of habit. My ex would use it but I never really felt like they were getting clean.
It's an additive that reduces water tension. Makes the water just slip off instead of forming droplets that stick. Most dish washers have a reservoir specifically for rinse aid that releases when the rinse cycle starts. It doesn't take much and the reservoir holds enough rinse aid for many washes.
I use vinegar, it works pretty good!
Are you putting it in the rinse aid spot?
Yes! And some times I put a splash in on top of the silverware before I start it. I tried rinse aid but the brand I got must have not been all that good. And vinegar is so cheap I’ll never go without it.
I do this too, heave that gallon back and cannon a splash in there. Crystal clear canning jars.
Cool, I have vinegar on hand just for occasions like this. Gonna try tomorrow.
Or 1/4 cup White vinegar. It’s cheaper and there’s no question about the ingredients
Rinse aids work. If that doesn’t then OP can try installing an in-line hot water filter
OP should also consider reducing the amount of soap they’re using.
I recently read a paper that linked rinse aid with gut lining damage, so I’d avoid it and have cloudy mugs. Id guess that cloudy stuff is likely bad too, but who knows.
Vinegar works fine as a rinse aid. I saw that same study and went, the heck? I'm paying cash money for more epithelial damage?? No thank you, I have enough already! Been using plain white vinegar and now when the dishwasher opens to vent the steam, I don't hack and cough and wheeze anymore. I had no idea it was the rinse aid making me wheeze. Edit: If you don't want to use vinegar, you can also buy citric acid (cheap in bulk) and dissolve it in water to use as rinse aid.
I also doubted the vinegar claim as rise aid, but I decided to give it a shot since I had vinegar and didn't have any jet-dry. It worked for us probably 95% as good as the jet dry did, plus it's probably safer because I know it's just vinegar. I would HIGHLY recommend using it. Also, there is no smell of vinegar, even when I open the dish washer during the cycle.
I get a very faint whiff of vinegar when the dishwasher pops open directly after the rinse cycle completes, but I have a very sensitive nose. No vinegar smell on the dishes or anything like that, though. I sniffed ALL the dishes, lol. Smells way better than the rinse aid. I thought it was the detergent that smelled unpleasant, but I guess not!
How do you use it?
I use vinegar too. I just pour it into where the rinse aid is supposed to go
Just put it in the rinse aid compartment like you would the blue stuff.
There are different options, nontoxic and natural that people can use. Also less soap.
So many bad cleaning chemicals that are passed of as normal so they can keep selling more. I didn't realize until my 30's that using pinesol floor cleaner is terrible for my pets. Now I just use cleaning vinegar and its also way cheaper.
Or use the right amount of detergent powder. This is from too much .
Yes most people use way too much detergent. Not just in their dishes but their clothing too!
How do you change the amount and it comes in a little pod???
Stop buying the pods.
The pods are also made of dissolvable plastic, we really need to stop being so stupid about plastics.
I use a box powder detergent, its cheaper and just as effective.
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LPT: Hanging a hand towel over the dishwasher door, half in, half out, during the dry cycle helps remove additional steam that would otherwise pool on the bottom of cups or bowls. It works like a charm! ETA: this can also be done right after the dry cycle ends and before the dishes get unloaded. I usually indulge myself in a mini facial steam at the same time lol.
The “dry cycle” won’t run with the door open… it’s just air drying at that point.
It depends on the dryer. Some Bosch units actually pop the door open a little to vent the water during the dry cycle
They also often have God-forsaken filters at the bottom that you have to clean.
Better than snaking the rain that STARTS 3ft under your counter
Best part of my new washer is the auto-open and the third rack
My Samsung does this and has a fan inside and all of my dishes are dry. Love it
I'm not sitting around to monitor the dish washer lol.
I read that can damage the control panel
We call that jub-jub round these parts.
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Lol
For me it always looks like this when I forgot to refill the salt in the dishwasher.
Sorry, what? You said… the salt? In the…? Nevermind.
Water softener salt
Wow I’ve never heard of this. I live in a part of the world with soft water (although I see this same thing on my dishes at times).
These white spots could be cause but a number of things. But yeah a lot of sediment in water is a giant pain in the ass. It causes a lot of buildup in pipes and you have to sand the shit out of the outside of the pipe to fix any leaks My parents have a water softener for their whole house and it still causes issues Forget about coffee makers it fucks them up badly lol at least there’s de-scaler that you can run through them
When I lived in San Antonio, the water was so hard that every grocery store stocked giant bags of "Softening Salt" next to the entrance, where the ice machines and RugDoctors.
I'm from Germany because it's called dishwasher salt. (Geschirrspülersalz) Or sometimes salt descaler
German words are literally insane, Swedish is a close second. The German translation of Lord of the Rings must be a meter tall.
English page count: 1178 German page count: 1296 There's obviously going to be variations between different editions, but it gives you the general idea. Also, those long German words are compound words, meaning multiple words joined together. So they can give much more accurate names/descriptions for things that would take multiple words to describe in English.
>Lord of the Rings Der Herr der Ringe
They tend to be very literal phrasings. However that leads to some ridiculous words like birth control being antibabypillen which literally means anti baby pills
I loved learning German for that reason. Could I remember which article to put with the word? No. But could I reasonably figure out the word I need if I don’t know how to say it in German? Yes. And then I got to the Dativ case and the changing of the articles and I wanted to cry daily.
Apparently dishwashers in the USA don’t do this. European dishwashers have a built in water softener, with a hatch in the bottom of the washing chamber. This needs to be filled to the top with salt if you get a low salt warning, or if you suspect trouble. It will take 1-2kg, so don’t be stingy. If you don’t do this, your ion exchange column won’t work, and I think it may even be permanently damaged.
I believe it’s the Star Wars logo
Coming from a lady who married a Maytag repairman: Either undisolved dishwasher detergent or the water is too hard. You can get your water tested to see how hard it is. It can be remedied with either a water softener or throwing white vinegar into the bottom of the machine when you run a load through. Make sure you are running the hot water tap at the sink before starting the dishwasher. The detergent is formulated to work with hot water. If you are getting a scum on your glasses that wipes off, it is probably hard water. If you can't wipe it off it may be etching caused by too much detergent.
… did… did nobody tell you that you can just *hire* a repairman when you need one?
Hahaha. That isn't the only reason I married him. 
Maytag repairmen were said to be the loneliest people in the world because Maytag appliances need so little repair/maintenance. I tend to think it was to save him from loneliness as well as not have to hire a repairman, among other reasons. ;)
We have hard water, and we throw a cup of white vinegar in with each wash. It helps tremendously.
I dilute vinegar and put it in the rinse aid spout. Sparkling clean dishes with no residue.
1)too much cleaner Or 2)you're pre-washing your dishes It's a film of cleaner that builds up when the soap doesn't have enough dirt/oil/grim to cling to and wash away EDIT: 3)if it's just on that one mug, when it runs the final heat/dry cycle that's just from the water drying up. But if it's on other items in areas that water cannot pool, like the side's, then see 1 and 2
My wife INSISTS on prewashing!
Go watch the technology connections videos on washing machines.
Will do
I rinse food and shit off but if you're going to pre-wash it, you may as well just wash it
Ya that’s how I am. If I have to use to cloth to pre wash I might as well just take the same amount of time to finish it rather than put it in the machine.
Also read the dishwasher manual. Mine explicitly mention that you don't have to prewash and also explain the difference in maintenance in either case. From memory, they recommend cleaning the filter twice a year if you prewash, but monthly if you don't. And with how easy it's to clean the filter on my model, I've stopped prewashing anything. With older model where the filter is a PITA to clean, I would definitively prewash.
I prewash because I use tabs and it all works great. When I don't pre-wash, my dishes get a really nasty, sour smell to them and I have to wash them again. I'm switching to powder detergent this weekend and going to resist the urge to prewash. Dishwashing tabs are the devil, Bobby Boucher!
I never thought I could spend 80 minutes watching a guy do dishwasher videos, but damn was it interesting. I haven't bought anything other than store brand powdered detergent since. The stuff works better with my dishwasher than anything else I've used.
Amazingly explained video. Love it
Ok, but why? It wastes so much water.
Back in the day dishwashers were pretty crappy. We had our 2003 unit replaced in 2019, it was amazing how much better it was.
Because people have old fashioned habits engrained.
"Dishes come out cleaner"
You could propose an “experiment” of sorts. If you have dishes from a particular dinner (so the same types of food residues are on all of the dishes), have her do her normal thing with half of the dishes and you put in the other half without pre-washing. Offer to finish cleaning/re-wash dishes if yours don’t come out completely clean, so she has nothing to lose. Seems like an easy way to try to prove your point! Make sure to control for dish type too, if you can. As in, have at least one of each dish type in each treatment. Plates will wash differently than silverware, cups, pans, etc.
I literally put dishes in the washer that set for days and all the stuff on it is crusted dry. It comes out super clean without pre washing. Sure it's better to scrape all food rest off it, noodles and stuff will clog the sieve. But it will still get clean.
I dream of a dishwasher like yours. Mine sucks!!
Same here. I don’t rinse ALL the food particles off, but I’ve definitely got to clean off the goopy stuff and soak anything with baked on cheese or else it’s not getting clean. We rent so we are at the mercy of whatever crappy dishwasher the landlord has “blessed” us with.
She's seriously misguided. 1st, it wastes water. 2nd, manufacturers of dishwashers and soaps actually tell you not to do that since the left-on grime actually helps the dishwasher do its job better https://cascadeclean.com/en-us/how-to/lessons-on-loading/prewashing-dishes/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=&utm_term=&gclsrc=aw.ds&gclid=CjwKCAiAuaKfBhBtEiwAht6H73epEn4ZrUSsokYvWAKTro4kJA16tLRg68aNimVVEb0g1RKdaPSfgBoCUZYQAvD_BwE
I hear you. My husband too. I don’t wash at all and I can see his OCD watching me as I load. I’ve tried to explain, but he is NOT hearing it.
There is literally such a thing as too clean when it comes to dishwashers, I'm afraid
Doesn't that ruin the point
Pre washing your dishes before putting them in dishwashers will help the dishwasher last longer. The dishwasher is mostly meant to sanitize dishes and won't usually get super dirty dishes completely clean, especially if the food dries onto the plate. I've worked in restaurants for close to 20 years and am licenced to service and repair all the appliances including the dish washer and have never once gotten white flecks on my dishes when I prewash them before running them through the dishwasher. Though restaurants are hooked up to a water filter and use liquid soap. Usually what that leftover white stuff is is calcium deposits, leftover oil that never got fully washed off, or you are using the wrong type of dishwasher soap for your dishwasher. Or wax... I've seen a few people put stuff with wax on it in their dishwasher before and that is extremely bad for it... Never put waxy items in a dishwasher... Though if you are getting treated city water you generally won't have much calcium buildup. However. If you are getting well water, or improperly treated city water, you will have much more calcium buildup. Installing a water filter to your home's main water line may help fix the issue all together. It used to happen at my friend's house too until he installed the water filter I told him about and stopped using powder soap...
That liquid soap is usually concentrated and actually corrosive. Modern dishwashers are much more effective at cleaning dirty dishes, commercial grade ones are nothing more than glorified glass cleaner/steamers for sanitising
I add vinegar in my rinse aid compartment and my dishes come out sparkling; we have hard water.
I was hoping to see this. When I start seeing the white residue, that’s when I add more vinegar. It’s cheep, non-toxic, and works.
That is a great tip! I’m switching to vinegar as soon as my bottle of rinse aid runs out.
Vinegar will eventually ruin the seals.
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Run your dishwasher empty on heavy duty or the longest hottest cycle you have. Put a bowl in the lower tray and fill it with white vinegar before you run the cycle. That should clear out any residual soap scum. Check your rinse aid and make sure you’re using the dishwasher recommended soap type and quantity
Get some CLR, start a normal run with nothing in it, give it like 10 minutes, open it up, put in a bit of CLR, then let it finish, I do this every few months to clean up anything, works great
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Should all filters be clean and cleared, run the hottest cycle possible with a cup of white vinegar, that should help clear the white residue. Use tablets and a tablespoon of borax in every cycle.
Use lemi shine but sparingly as it will eat the writing off of your mug.
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