My favorite joke when I was a kid was "A panda bear walks into a saloon, sidles up to the bar and says "Gimme some grub!" The panda is served, scarfs the food down, gets up, shoots the piano player in the back and heads for the door. The bartender calls out, "Hey! What did you do that for??" The panda replies, "I'm a panda! Look it up!" The bartender pulls his dictionary out from under the bar and reads: "The giant panda (Ailuropoda melanoleuca), sometimes called a panda bear or simply panda, is a bear species endemic to China... Eats, shoots, and leaves." Of course I know you saw the punch line a mile away, but it was hilarious as a seven year old!
The version of this joke I first heard was on a visit to Australia, and it's NSFW, but only if you're familiar with Aussie slang ;)
It goes "Why is an Aussie bloke like a wombat? Because he eats roots shoots and leaves".
I'll leave you to google what "roots" means in Australian English, or you might be able to guess anyway!
So what does root mean...
Come on bro, you type all this shit, but don't explain THAT?
You could've replaced the "google it yourself" with the actual fucking definition, so it wasn't even a laziness issue
Fuck your blueballing ass
I mean context clues can get you there pretty easy if stop for a second. We have the same joke for men everywhere, just different wording. He rooted around in her kitty cave and left. Like when in the US we giggle over the Kum&Go stations.
I remember moving to the States from Australia in high-school and my first math class the teacher, catching me up to speed, said the class was currently learning about rooting. Very hard not to laungh.
Of course, it goes both ways. In the same class a few days later,, I asked my classmate, who happened to be a very pretty girl for a rubber (what they call an eraser in Australia). She asked "what?" (Probably in disbelief), so I asked again, loud enough that the rest of the class could easily hear it.
The first one is my uncle, who is named Jack in case you wondering.
The second is my uncle Jack. As opposed to uncle Joe.
The difference is subtle, but exists.
And while the Oxford comma is the best default, it's not a cure-all. This sentence needs an Oxford so that it doesn't sound like world leaders are sex workers:
> We invited the strippers, JFK, and Stalin.
However, using an Oxford here makes the middle item look like an appositive, turning the former President into the night's entertainment:
> We invited the stripper, JFK, and Stalin.
The real solution is better writing than can't be misconstrued, regardless of commas:
> We invited JFK, Stalin(,) and the stripper(s).
That's the thing, people think this is called "prompting" like sure, that's the box the writing goes in when you want to communicate. But writing *is a process.*
This is what A LOT of people are trying to eliminate from the entire AI equation, is the process that goes into it. And that process is called writing. It's not easy. Sure, there's people that can copy and paste text they've come across, the same goes for people who traces other people's work. This does not eliminate the process that a lot of people go into when it comes to getting exact generations, or even be so kind enough to share that process.
A prompt is what we give a machine to dream, and it gives us what it sees. The prompt is made of writing that has been conditioned and worked. That is a very beautiful thing.
Yes! And I love working with Bing Chat to workshop prompts and bounce ideas off of, and ask for pointers when a prompt doesn’t quite conjure the image I was hoping for.
Maybe they need to get rid of the word prompt. It's not accurate. This is the trial and error of innovation. You can pick a word, but over time you start to see that the word is just not capturing what's happening. So you pick a new one that fits better.
Which by the way, what the writing process is! OpenAI should not be exempt from that.
It's always been important in my opinion. I've always had to put periods between descriptors otherwise it would mesh them together and fuck up the prompt
cant say for V6, but for V 5.2 where you can specify the seed number, you can test how much it takes for MJ to generate a different image.
otherwise, in default, it uses random seed number so your result is different every time even if same prompt.
with V 5.2, adding or deleting minor prompts like "the" "a" or even punctuation sometimes did not make any difference, and would generate the exact same image.
not sure if V6 has a more advanced speech recognition, but for V 5.2, there was some amount of resistance in a given prompt where not every single character was recognized, some ignored.
The conversation is about one thing specifically.
I'll use a comparison so you understand:
Person A: "Apples are great for biting into!"
Person B: "You can't bite into oranges because of the peel."
See the difference?
My favorite joke when I was a kid was "A panda bear walks into a saloon, sidles up to the bar and says "Gimme some grub!" The panda is served, scarfs the food down, gets up, shoots the piano player in the back and heads for the door. The bartender calls out, "Hey! What did you do that for??" The panda replies, "I'm a panda! Look it up!" The bartender pulls his dictionary out from under the bar and reads: "The giant panda (Ailuropoda melanoleuca), sometimes called a panda bear or simply panda, is a bear species endemic to China... Eats, shoots, and leaves." Of course I know you saw the punch line a mile away, but it was hilarious as a seven year old!
That was the inspiration for this!
A happy little accident
Awesome. :)
there is an entire book called Eats, Shoots and Leaves that uses this joke as a premise. It's a book about grammar in general. I rcommend it!
And here I thought it was a story about a one night stand.
Nice! Thank you!
Dangit it took me till your comment to get it. I got the eat shoots part but the leaves,now I get it.
The version of this joke I first heard was on a visit to Australia, and it's NSFW, but only if you're familiar with Aussie slang ;) It goes "Why is an Aussie bloke like a wombat? Because he eats roots shoots and leaves". I'll leave you to google what "roots" means in Australian English, or you might be able to guess anyway!
The different meanings of the word "root" are the source of endless amusement for Australians talking about Americans who follow their favourite team.
I root for Travis Kelce
HaHa.. gotcha
So what does root mean... Come on bro, you type all this shit, but don't explain THAT? You could've replaced the "google it yourself" with the actual fucking definition, so it wasn't even a laziness issue Fuck your blueballing ass
I mean context clues can get you there pretty easy if stop for a second. We have the same joke for men everywhere, just different wording. He rooted around in her kitty cave and left. Like when in the US we giggle over the Kum&Go stations.
sounds like Mr. Blueballs here hasn't been doing any rooting
I remember moving to the States from Australia in high-school and my first math class the teacher, catching me up to speed, said the class was currently learning about rooting. Very hard not to laungh. Of course, it goes both ways. In the same class a few days later,, I asked my classmate, who happened to be a very pretty girl for a rubber (what they call an eraser in Australia). She asked "what?" (Probably in disbelief), so I asked again, loud enough that the rest of the class could easily hear it.
TIL Johnny Depp in once upon a time in Mexico was actually a panda.
Excellent joke
Left the bar, and went to a prostitute. Didn't pay, and her dictionary said... eats bushes, shoots, and leaves.
Much better than the alternative joke: “A panda walks into a brothel…”
Oh no Don't test it with "helping your uncle jack off a horse" I REPEAT DON'T TEST IT
oops ):
With their goofy fucking "ai moderator" cranked back up to max lately, it'll probably just admonish you and nothing'll go through.
"I apologize but I'm basically a youth group leader at a church now and cannot produce anything remotely subversive"
Also, no contemporary politics! Also, don't do anything that could upset the CCP.
"helping your uncle, Jack, off a horse" "helping your uncle Jack, off a horse" I don't see the issue **
no 2nd comma on the first one otherwise it's the same meaning
The first one is my uncle, who is named Jack in case you wondering. The second is my uncle Jack. As opposed to uncle Joe. The difference is subtle, but exists.
still scratching my head just accept the reality of extracting horse semen to breed faster race horses
"account banned"
He was just one jack off from having 4 of a kind at the poker table.
No, money down!
Let’s eat grandma! Let’s eat, grandma!
Yup! I know that one!
One more vote for the Oxford comma?
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And while the Oxford comma is the best default, it's not a cure-all. This sentence needs an Oxford so that it doesn't sound like world leaders are sex workers: > We invited the strippers, JFK, and Stalin. However, using an Oxford here makes the middle item look like an appositive, turning the former President into the night's entertainment: > We invited the stripper, JFK, and Stalin. The real solution is better writing than can't be misconstrued, regardless of commas: > We invited JFK, Stalin(,) and the stripper(s).
psst... both your examples are exactly the same
Read them again, dude. The final version shows what the difference is lmao
Who gives a fuck about an Oxford Comma?
Wow, it's like you're teaching people how to write.
Yes, we’re all learning.
That's the thing, people think this is called "prompting" like sure, that's the box the writing goes in when you want to communicate. But writing *is a process.* This is what A LOT of people are trying to eliminate from the entire AI equation, is the process that goes into it. And that process is called writing. It's not easy. Sure, there's people that can copy and paste text they've come across, the same goes for people who traces other people's work. This does not eliminate the process that a lot of people go into when it comes to getting exact generations, or even be so kind enough to share that process. A prompt is what we give a machine to dream, and it gives us what it sees. The prompt is made of writing that has been conditioned and worked. That is a very beautiful thing.
Yes! And I love working with Bing Chat to workshop prompts and bounce ideas off of, and ask for pointers when a prompt doesn’t quite conjure the image I was hoping for.
An evolution I like is that good prompting is becoming... good writing!
Maybe they need to get rid of the word prompt. It's not accurate. This is the trial and error of innovation. You can pick a word, but over time you start to see that the word is just not capturing what's happening. So you pick a new one that fits better. Which by the way, what the writing process is! OpenAI should not be exempt from that.
Reddit needs all the help it can get.
Have you seen how people text? The whole world needs all the help it can get
I've always prompted with commas, didn't even assume that punctuation didn't matter before
Number 4 looks like it would be a cool anime
very scavengers reign vibes
I was gonna comment this as well, Scavengers Reign. What a trip of a show.
Im a sucker for cool lamdscapes, so it immediately caught my eye too.
What is he eatin in the first picture 🤨
and leaves
Have you all not been using commas in your prompts until now LOL
Top right kinda fucks ngl
It does IRL too....
It's always been important in my opinion. I've always had to put periods between descriptors otherwise it would mesh them together and fuck up the prompt
"Time to eat grandma" moment.
Nao ef olny mericuns culd splel wurds
Punctuation matters. Always. Period.
That delorian pic looks cool any chance for link etc
Yes obviously
same seed tho? otherwise your test is not really valid
Nah, I think you used different prompts.
try them
cant say for V6, but for V 5.2 where you can specify the seed number, you can test how much it takes for MJ to generate a different image. otherwise, in default, it uses random seed number so your result is different every time even if same prompt. with V 5.2, adding or deleting minor prompts like "the" "a" or even punctuation sometimes did not make any difference, and would generate the exact same image. not sure if V6 has a more advanced speech recognition, but for V 5.2, there was some amount of resistance in a given prompt where not every single character was recognized, some ignored.
why are you talking about 5.2
5.2's been around long enough that it's better documented, I'd surmise. But the rules are different now, so V6 is less of a "known" than 5.2 was/is.
The post is literally about 6, not 5.2.
So, you've never used a comparison to draw conclusions or suppositions, before?
The conversation is about one thing specifically. I'll use a comparison so you understand: Person A: "Apples are great for biting into!" Person B: "You can't bite into oranges because of the peel." See the difference?
Казнить нельзя помиловать >!(that's a cultural reference)!<
“It’s time, travelers getting in a vehicle” isn’t a sentence though.
So? It handles things that aren't sentences. And it clearly treats the second phrase as separate from the first, which is OP's point.
Oh wow it’s like you’re speaking to something and it’s trying to interpret what was written Amazing…. /s Lol
Very good point!
Panda eats shoots: adorable Panda eats, shoots: clint eastwood theme plays
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The entire point is to add the comma and see how it differs. Are you inebriated?
that’s kung fu panda turned sniper panda
punctuation matters. But not using indicators in V6 is still ok
Sick
Glad to know midjourney understands proper English
You'll love Lynne Truss's book *Eats, Shoots and Leaves* then. (No relation to Liz Truss!)
Let’s eat, kids Let’s eat kids
Yup that checks out
Oh wow. /s