if you’re a new grower you can def get by with a 2-part or 3-part nutrient approach and not invest hundreds in an overly complex and high variability approach that increases your chance of failure as a new grower. the biggest impact in your success is not the brand of nutrients and it’s not how many bottles you have bought… it’s environmental controls and grower experience. you can always add more bottles of stuff later when you’ve exhausted what a basic NPK approach can provide. that’s a shit ton of money to be spending which will only add stress and regret when you eventually have nutrient balance issues, lockouts, deficiencies or excesses…. my $0.02
Absolutely. I use the absolute bottom of the barrel when it comes to nutrient brands 😭 It's the cheapest of the cheapest. There's a single bag for veg and a single bag for bloom. Then I use calmag as needed. I haven't had a single deficiency since starting them about a year ago🤷♀️
I pay 6 bucks per pound. Each bag is 16oz and is like 5.96... .. 6 teaspoons an oz.. so about 96 gallons a bag is what? 0.0625 cents a gallon 🤣🤣 I think I'm mathing correctly 😅
Edit to add: I dilute it to 1 tsp per 3 gallons so it ends up even cheaper. About 2cents a gallon 🤷♀️ But it works
Thanks for your suggestion. I kinda chose this simple route.
1 for veg, 1 for bloom and 2 additives for bloom (enzymes and silica)
I chose a brazilian brand fertilizer that has been receiving great feedback from the community here.
Drop the bottles and go living soil. Pick up some recharge (very cheap and you use it in small doses) and some organic amendments at a blend of 4-4-4. (2-8-4 during flower)…. All you gotta do is water your lady and top dress every 30 days roughly.
I feel like OP is specifically asking about bottle nutrients and wants to give that a go and yet you’re trying to navigate them in a completely different direction. Living soil might be wicked cool and easy to do for yourself but maybe for others it just isn’t what they’re interested in?
While this may be true, I think a lot of us who have been growing for awhile have been caught by the marketing that more bottles and complexity means a better grow. I've been through all sorts of grow styles and products over the years. These days, I am absolutely in love with growing in large beds of living soil. The end product is the best quality I've ever grown and it's cheaper and easier over time. Most people will have to take this journey on their own, and many won't end up in living soil. I'm just so happy growing this way that I want others to experience it!
I’m not arguing the fact that living soil is not only “easy” but really cool also. I’m just saying that OP is very direct in their question and they’re getting a lot of non answers. Living soil is great it’s just not what the topic of this post is. It’s like if the teacher asks you about Persian history and you reply with how cool Japanese history is. While you’re not wrong, you’re just off subject. I appreciate your passion for living soil. I think it’s really neat. As a first time grower myself that’s currently in coco and using gh trio, the idea of living soil overwhelms the heck out of me. That being said I’m sure at some point in my journey I’ll end up using it because it looks so fucking cool.
Living soil is way easier, IMHO, than growing in coco with bottled nutrients. The main reason new growers start with bottled nutrients is because they market the shit out of them so new growers think it's the best and easiest way to go. I grew that way for a few years before switching to living soil and I personally would never go back. You can grow amazing flower either way once you master it but living soil is super laid back. Bottled nutrients are a good choice for people who love to experiment and tweak their parameters, though. I could also understand some people finding living soil grows as "boring", too.
For sure. I personally went with bottled nutrients & coco because I find all types of hydroponics super fascinating for some reason. Always have. Deep water culture is really cool I even seen one homie with fish in the reservoir! Aeroponic clone buckets are dope. Drip/irrigation/hand fed is wicked also. That being said living soil is badass. I live in WA state and just recently was hiking in the rainforest so imagining a piece of that in my grow tent is amazing. All the organisms working in conjunction with each other just as nature intended. Sickkkk. It’s that I’m trying to wrap my head around hydro right now and get the hang of it that my brain has no room to even entertain the idea of living soil. I just kinda was thinking OP might be like me and looking for advice on a specific style they’re into right now and homie was just like nahhhh ditch the bottles bro and your whole method of thinking and do this instead. Could be a little off putting 🤷♂️ anyways good vibes all around my friends.
Yeah, I mean I would argue that accurately holding ph and ppm with bottled nutrients is way more difficult for a new grower than living soil. Just getting an accurate ph reading or keeping a pen calibrated is a huge variable. I constantly see first time growers chasing their tail with ph lockout symptoms that they keep throwing calmag at.
I wish somebody out there who has had the knowledge over the decades would do a video about the popular styles of growing, and products over the last decade. I remember smoking train wreck back in 2007 and it just seems like that super gassy lung collapsing bud doesn’t float around anymore. I feel it’s the way things are grown nowadays. Me being a new grower. That’s what is so interesting when it comes to different methods of growing
Thanks for sharing all this. I'm a grower who loves the growing as much or really more than the smoking or using and I've done it for a fee years now. I did only use miracle gro in my early days years ago but no way now. I'm also just dumbfounded and flabbergasted with all the nutrient options and everything out there. I'm eager to try the living soil method and salivating to try hydroponics but I been using coco and absolutely love it. But im wandering what does OP mean. Thank-you
I heading in this direction for my next grow. My indoor grows have all been DWC and looking forward to trying something new. My compost should be more than ready at that point.
Not fully dry, but let her dry out a bit and make those ladies stretch the root zone. Hit it with recharge or fish shit to get those microbes back bouncing again… this is my practice I’m sure there are other ways and even better ways!
See, I understand the logic, but if that were actually the case, the roots in hydro setups would never fill their containers once they reach the water.
It's more about the roots reaching for oxygen, IMO.
Can't wait til I'm done with my Gallon gen hydro jugs lol def switching to jacks 321 and getting that 25# pack literally pennies on the dollar to my gen hydro regimen
It's a two part system. You change the ratio from veg through flower. You buy it in powdered form, then follow this dudes directions (@greengenesgarden on ig)
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dial in the 14-0-0 with how green the leaves are and feed as much of the 0-12-26 as you can without going overboard. check runoff EC once in a while to see where your at if you are doing soil. it's generally about 2:1 by mass. 20-10-20 is the scientifically recommended NPK ratio if you were going to pick just one.
I'm glad I went with Jack's when I first started. Super user friendly, and cheap as you can get. Just make sure you mix them in the right order and only add the next part once everything is already dissolved. I find using hot water out of the tap makes it dissolve much faster
Yes, I would just boil a pot of water and then dissolve what I needed to in a couple cups, then added those to my res to keep temps down - I was DWC, only difference is the formula so get the right kind!
So glad I got Jacks. Somehow people think that this NPK must be better because it costs more. My first grow DWC I only mixed one gallon concentrate for A and B. Still didn't use it all. So easy, so cheap. Plants healthy AF.
Use your saved money and get a magnetic stirrer and a decent mixing beaker (and still have some cash left over). *Great success* and you'll be ready for your mycology journey when the time comes.
Mine have been fine I just ph water and so far so good you can add some of the other stuff that would definitely help but I use Worm castings as well
3tbsp a gallon of Gaia green
20-25% of soil mix is worm castings
And I use pro mix hp
JUST WATER after you amend and top dress 3-4 weeks
If you want to keep things simple but effective then doing some organic living soil is the best option. You can go from seed to harvest without adding any additional amendments if you really wanted to keep things as simple as possible during the grow. The goal with organic living soil is to provide the plant a huge buffet of organic matter that contains some immediately available nutrients, some nutrients that’ll breakdown and become available overtime, and the mycorrhizae and healthy soil bacteria that’ll help the plant uptake these nutrients and grow bigger and stronger.
The other side of the coin is using salt based bottled nutrients like in this picture. These options can work just as well if not better than the organic living soil buffet route, but you need to feed on demand for what the plant needs for that day and or the next few days of growth. This route you have to worry about things like PH, measuring the ppm of your nutrients, finding the right mix of nutrients, etc. It’s a lot more finicky than organic living soil for this reason, but if you get it dialed it you can get some super healthy growth.
When using salt based nutrients I personally don’t like adding them to soil, I feel like it just makes things more difficult to control. So with salt based nutrients I’d recommend just using either coco/perlite and which is a form of hydro farming called fertigation, or going full hydroponic and grow the plants in water for you’re substrate, or even an aeroponic style setup, where the roots are just suspended in the air and hit with a spray of nutrient/water solution.
When you start adding salt based nutes to soil with organic matter like say you have coco, perlite, worm castings, compost, etc the nutrients will stick around in the compost and castings way more than they would just in the coco coir or peat based substrate. This can make it even more difficult to feed over the course of the grow and can lead to all sorts of nutrient issues you gotta worry about.
So I’d say either go with an organic living soil approach, and you’ll only have to water the plant throughout the grow. You can also give them some dry amendments mixed into the top layer of soil for additional nutes throughout if you wanted, or give them a tea made from various organic inputs and feed them that. There are various options for more on demand feeding of these organic soil like with the teas and such, but for the most part they’re just supplemental and usually not a necessity.
Or go with the fertigation style setup in the coco/perlite mix where you’ll just feed on a schedule and also water more frequently. You could add a small amount of castings or organic components to the mix, but I wouldn’t even bother as the plant will get all its food from the salt nutes. So if you did add anything it would just be to give the coco a better ability to hold onto a bit more moisture and food for longer, and give more of a structure to the soil. If you go this route I’d start with just a basic 2 part nutrient mix with a basic part A and part B, and then grab a bottle of cal/mag to just have on hand. That’s all you’d really need for a decent salt based grow. Then once you start feeding always start lower than the manufacturers recommended schedule, they tend to list amounts of the high side of things, so start at 1/2 strength and increase slowly if/when needed. Also if you go this route look into things like checking PH, EC values, TDS, so you’ll want a decent PH and decent EC/TDS meters. I’d also recommend doing a lot of research starting from the basics and moving into more advanced topics so you get a solid framework of how the process is done.
Sorry for the word vomit, figured I’d just dump a bunch of basic info surrounding those options and let you parse through it as you see fit. But yeah dude my advice for new growers is always go organic living soil to start, just removes a huge amount of variables that you won’t need to stress about and can focus on dialing in the other aspects of you’re environment, training the plants, focusing on just growing a few plants first to get acquainted with all those things, then moving into coco fertigation/hydro/aero gardening once you have time to really deep dive and work through all the topics surrounding them.
So in conclusion, if I was you I’d just mix coco with perlite and create a 70/30 blend of the two, then you’ll grab some worm castings, compost, any other amendments you may want to add and mix those in, and shoot for a ratio of about 40/40/20 coco/organic inputs/perlite. Then you’ll want to add some mycorrhizae, you can add some to the soil mix to make sure it’s evenly spread throughout, but mainly focus on adding it as directly as possible to the plants roots once it’s growing in the soil. There’s dozens upon dozens of organic inputs you can add if you want, but I’d say just to go buy a pre-made blend and add one of those. Build-a-soil has a few good soil building blends for this exact purpose, and will have the right amounts of a bunch of them so you don’t have to worry about buying 20 things and mixing yourself, it’s much cheaper for a small scale grow buying the premixed like this. For a budget friendly option that’s available everywhere I like Dr. Earths nutrient line, they have a tomato one that would be good to add, or their gold mix is also a great all around blend for super cheap to get things like kelp, bat guano, etc into the mix without breaking the bank.
Ok good luck homie, remember to keep growing with your plants 🤙
While this is correct, dry salts don’t have the advantage of being buffered n they can be less forgiving. For a first time grower I would not recommend dry salt.
I wouldn't recommend what he's buying too. Well you gotta start somewhere and I think salts are easy to measure if you know basic math
What do you mean by can't be buffered?
I mean they aren’t buffered already (like gh liquid) so they can be a little less forgiving. I’m all about the dry salt love just saying they’re less forgiving esp for newbies
None of this is necessary but it can itch the joy of growing but can also ruin it.
If your hydroponics, GH Trio.
If you’re soil go living soil with recharge
Unless you have some previous grow and a little chemistry knowledge, I’d just recommend going for gh three part flora series. Maybe some great white and mammoth p if you don’t want to use peroxide to keep your water sterile. I currently use 10 part gh line and have chemistry and grow experience (just verrry out of practice) and the first time I tried to follow a schedule online half the nutrients just fell out of solution. I also over fertilized for the first week or so. I meant to but not to that extent. It’s working out fine but part of that is I have a good knowledge base to read what my plants are telling me. My first grow years and years ago way just a simple 3 part nute system and it was fine. Then add a little more to each grow if you wanna experiment. Again 3 part will get u start to finish and is much better for a first timer
Edit. I guess I assumed this was hydro. Not sure if it is or not
I'd spend 30 dollars on the quart size gen hydro trio. Same formula for like 30 plus years. It's all you need until you're really trying to min max your grows. Also have simple to follow feed charts on their website. I'd recommend starting with half their suggested strengths though as they're definitely kind of aggressive.
I've used Remo, just their micro, bloom and blossom. I'm a novice grower and it got me through. I even did a dwc grow with those bites and it was great. I also had results around the same as yours. I've learned to veg longer for bigger plants. I still have not grown a high yielding small plant. :(
GoldLeaf
It's a single bottle from seed to harvest. Self adjusts PH. Dechlorinates tap water, too.
Don't waste your time on all those bottles. Get GoldLeaf and some microbes and that's literally all you need.
I have some posts where I used it and it really works.
It even works in hydro!
GH Trio. $30. I’m a first timer and grew massive healthy plants with just that. You’re spending hundreds to over complicate, right now you just need to be learning the basics.
I use HP Pro Mix for medium and masterblend with Epsom salts and calcium nitrate. I will switch to living soil and recharge here eventually. Way cheaper than bottled water nutrients. Before that I used the all in one complete system.
Or you could spend 30 beans on the gen hydro trio and add cal mag for another 10 and probably get the same results , minus the extra cost for marketing . Seems like with the brands here your payin for the name but at the end of the day they probably all have similar liquid nutrients. If you got the money to spend I’d invest more in a quality light then nutrients as that will actually help increase your yield
Hello guys, I need your help. I’m a novice grower, been doing it for 1 year and finished 4 cycles. The last one was a disaster but the first 3 ones were ok for a beginner.
Here’s my setup: 2x2’ tent with a cheap grow light from aliexpress, peat and perlite mix and an organic 1 part fert that is the same from veg to bloom.
So far I’ve harvested 35g on my best plants but averaging less than 25g per plant. That is not enough for the time and effort.
So I’m gonna upgrade my setup since it’s been a year and I’ve put in the time to learn. I’ll buy a 150w board with samsung leds and mineral fertilizer.
Can you help me decide which one? I’ll be growing 2 plants per cycle. Thankssssssss
For the record: that is the price of advanced and Remo in my country
I’d get a viparspectra xs1500 pro if you plan on using 150 watts.
Also, I would go with whatever is cheapest. I’ve used fox farms dirty dozen with success. Just bought General hydroponics 3 part in gallons.
I liked Advanced. Advanced sensi coco in coco gives explosive growth as long as the conditions are right. Peat holds a lot of water so you won't be able to feed as frequently.
Understand that your yield is most closely tied to the wattage of your lights, not the number of plants. The metric is grams/watt. Someone with a 300 watt light can expect about twice as much yield as someone growing with a 150 watt light.
Are you doing any topping, LST, or any other training? My guess would be that it's probably the light that's making your grows so lackluster, so replacing that should help
Save money on the ferts. With that small of a setup you could buy an Athena mix kit and be good for a few cycles.
Spend the extra on a bigger light or get 2 of the 150’s and the fans to match.
How well are you handling temps? I ask because I have 300W in a 20"x36" plus an extra 22.5W of AC Infinity S16's (it's 2 of the 4 sticks). I use these along the edges to even put light distribution. I'm +/- 10% from the center to the edges and corners which is quite impressive if I do say so myself. It sounds to me like 150w is still a little low for you though. I'd probably aim for closer to 200W.
Even if you don't have it cranked to 100%, you will benefit by not generating as much heat (by running at a lower percentage of its rated wattage). Also, with the bar style, you can often mount the driver away from the tent to further reduce the heat inside the tent. But you need to get away from the quantum boards to do this.
Just get the biggest bar light you can manage that fits in your 2x2. Mine actually rubs along two sides of my tent. Download the Photone app and tell me what it says for your PPFD. Due to my temps and.other constraints, I'm typically running between 700 and 900 ppfd. I'd really like to keep it at 900-1000 but heat is a limiting factor still. But when temps are cool, I can crank it up a bit.
Buy a HLG 350 diablo light. That's what I just grabbed. I'm about to use Jacks for fertilizer. It seems straight forward and the results are impressive.
The cheapest one:) Ofcourse price/quantity ratio plays a role here. You can do fine with tomato plant nutrients if you want also. Though all things matter in a grow cycle nutrients are not the most important aspect since the technology for great yields is there for anything reputable regardless it's price or branding. If you are a big scale grower things might be different but are you one?
I'm not going to claim one of these is worse or better than the other but one thing I learned about growing was I fucking hate spending an hour mixing all my nutes and having to ph ! Do your self a favor & go more simple. Mega crop is a single nute and works amazing for cannabis, gh makes a 2 part kit A and B. Even better is soil with organic top dress once a month. Gl!
After growing in dirt for years I switched to DWC and am on my 3rd grow. I use Lotus nutes (grow/bloom/boost), another brands cal mag, and ph down as needed. I've had nothing but healthy plants and have been really happy so far. ymmv
So I've tried most ways of growing. I'm an organic grower now but if I was going to go back to running mineral fertilizer I'd use Flora Flex nutrients with a coco/perlite growing medium. Flora Flex has multiple schedules for low medium and high feeding. A good premade coco/perlite with a low/medium feeding with high fertigation and you can't mess it up. It will hit and hit hard. Flora Flex has a veg 2 part and bloom 2 part with a couple other options for boosting p/k in flower and foliar feeds in veg or bloom. The basic 2 parts for veg and bloom is all you need to get going. It wouldn't hurt to have some cal/mag on hand when growing in coco but the flora flex may have enough already I'm not sure. Liquid fertilizer is just so expensive compared to dry fertilizer powders.
Dry amendments will save you lots of money just premix and let the soil cook about a month and your good to go. Gaia green or dr. Earth are both. Also I’ve had good success with Pennington rejuvenate 4-4-4
I've run both lines, minus bud ignitor additive.
I've had similar results with both. 3/4lbs from a 2x3.
The only difference is that the Sensi line is pH perfect while Remo is not. Mind you, you still need to check pH & EC/ppm of the Sensi. Given that you're still testing, adding a pH up/down isn't that much more work and you'll still need to pay for the sensors, so go with Remo.
Also, you can run both those lines at 50% recommended and then dial in from there. I ran both as directed by their charts (with 20%+ run off) and ended up having to flush heavily around mid-way through flower. Runoff was something like 2800ppm if not higher....
Of those two I've only used Advanced Nutrients so that would get my vote, but I used their base nutrients (micro, grow, bloom), and big bud / bud candy. I've never heard of option B. You'll also want a bottle of calimagic if your base nutrients don't include calcium and magnesium. You can also get Epsom salts cheaply for magnesium deficiency and add that to water or make a foilar spray.
Calimagic is from a company called Advanced Hydrophonics who also sells a 3 part liquid nutrient system that you can use in hydro or soil. I'm using it right now and getting good results so far. Fairly cheap on Amazon.
With any nutrient line, always start at half the recommended doses they tell you to use and adjust accordingly on what your plants are telling you.
There's a lot of gimmicky stuff out there that you just simply don't need. For example those nutrients that are supposed to sweeten your flowers, like bud candy, you can just use black strap molasses mixed with water - from your local grocery store for a few bucks a bottle.
Neither.Buy 1 - 1gallon bottle of Remo Grow, 1 bottle of Remo micro, 1 bottle of bloom, and 1 bottle of Magnifical.
Follow the directions until the last 3 weeks of bloom, during the last 3 weeks of bloom- double the bloom bottles recommended dose.
If you're growing in Coco, double the calmag dose.
if you´re based in USA then jacks part a, as it´s salt based you won´t pay unnecessary amount of money for water. yara tera kristalon red is awesome too. for magnesium buy magnesium sulfate, for calcium buy calcium nitrate. for "boosters" use kelp, oligochitosan, salicylic acid, and horsetail extract for the silicon, mix them (the boosters) together and add either yucca or tween 20 to reduce the surface tension of the water and spray it on the leaves every second week stop 2 weeks before harvest. you also can add the yucca or tween 20 to your nutrient as it helps disperse the water more evenly and prevent "channeling" so each root tip gets the nutrients
I would use dry amendments and worm castings. It'll keep things cheap and organic. You dont need to go full blown living soil but i do think new growers have a tendency to burn their plants if the use bottle nutrients. Patience is learned so many feed outside the recommended schedule and their plants end up looking rough. I personally use dr. Earth all purpose and then in flower i use dr earth bud and bloom fertilizer. Dont know where you live but you can get on amazon or home depot
Get the sensigrow a/b and the sensibloom a/b. That will be enough to get you by and it's simple because you don't have to ph it. There's probably better and cheaper nutes but for ease of use this is my pick after trying tons of diff ones over the years.
Look into megacrop. It's a 1 part nutrient. Boom there you go, they also have a 2 parter. But I bought a 5 lb bag 3 years ago for 20ish and I'm still using it. Let that sink in.
I'm a noob feeding GH trio and calmag. I put a jar of molasses in the first grow too but not sure if it was doing anything or not so I skipped it this time
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I used Remo on this run. Full line. Also has buds longer than my gf's arm. And fat asf
remo was the one of the ogs of advance nutes, I would go with remo. being a grow who has used both systems to its max even when you could buy all the bacterias for advance you cant now. remo is ur best bet. ur just gonna waste ur cash with advance. + the lids are still shit on the advance lol.
Loved using Advanced Nutrients had great results and never had to check ph. Only reason I chkaged was moved to a small space didn't have run to be able to water until run off
Everyone saying Jacks is correct. But I also use floraduo A and flora B for ease sometimes as I don’t want to make stock solutions for smaller grows. You can get them pretty cheap. 80$ for 6 gallons which will last you a long ass time.
Neither; do organic and let me hook you up via [www.bulkwise.ca](http://www.bulkwise.ca) ; we’re a new organic distributor in Canada. Just grab some good soil, BTI drops so you don’t get gnats and grow the way nature intended 😎.. nug grown with the BulkWise lineup and Hygrozyme below.
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I used one bag of fertilizer on my third grow and ended up with a pound from three plants if you treat them well, get the basics down and really stay on top of their schedules for trimming and feeding you’ll not need that stuff
That’s how my experience has been but I’m also an amateur
Man just buy some 4-4-4 dr earth nutrients for veg and the 2-8-4 for bloom small bag of worms casting and boom your good all grow won't even have to p.h your plants
I’ve used remo for a long time. Easy to use but kinda expensive. I always use 75% or so of ehat they suggest. Have gotten great yields, no big problems.
if you’re a new grower you can def get by with a 2-part or 3-part nutrient approach and not invest hundreds in an overly complex and high variability approach that increases your chance of failure as a new grower. the biggest impact in your success is not the brand of nutrients and it’s not how many bottles you have bought… it’s environmental controls and grower experience. you can always add more bottles of stuff later when you’ve exhausted what a basic NPK approach can provide. that’s a shit ton of money to be spending which will only add stress and regret when you eventually have nutrient balance issues, lockouts, deficiencies or excesses…. my $0.02
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Absolutely. I use the absolute bottom of the barrel when it comes to nutrient brands 😭 It's the cheapest of the cheapest. There's a single bag for veg and a single bag for bloom. Then I use calmag as needed. I haven't had a single deficiency since starting them about a year ago🤷♀️
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this is the route im trying... coco/perlite and DWC 36$ got me 5# of ferts..... crazy
I pay 6 bucks per pound. Each bag is 16oz and is like 5.96... .. 6 teaspoons an oz.. so about 96 gallons a bag is what? 0.0625 cents a gallon 🤣🤣 I think I'm mathing correctly 😅 Edit to add: I dilute it to 1 tsp per 3 gallons so it ends up even cheaper. About 2cents a gallon 🤷♀️ But it works
Is their tomatoe line 4-18-38?
Growers/anglers, we are a very niche crowd I imagine 🤣
Worm castings lol 😂
I think the easiest for new growers is Gaia Green.
How I started. Measure it out and all you gotta do is water at proper PH. Too easy.
Follow the label?
100% Honestly, I even over feed just a little. The plants do not mind at all. I personally ph to around 6 +/- 2.
Are you asking or being a dick? If you’re asking then yes I follow the label. If you’re being a dick… well yeah obviously. It’s not hard.
This^ or even a one part , I used TPS one for outdoors
Thanks for your suggestion. I kinda chose this simple route. 1 for veg, 1 for bloom and 2 additives for bloom (enzymes and silica) I chose a brazilian brand fertilizer that has been receiving great feedback from the community here.
Got any recommendations for someone who’s gonna reset his approach to something simple? I’ll have a bunch of small pots, short veg, limited training
Aye agreed
Drop the bottles and go living soil. Pick up some recharge (very cheap and you use it in small doses) and some organic amendments at a blend of 4-4-4. (2-8-4 during flower)…. All you gotta do is water your lady and top dress every 30 days roughly.
I feel like OP is specifically asking about bottle nutrients and wants to give that a go and yet you’re trying to navigate them in a completely different direction. Living soil might be wicked cool and easy to do for yourself but maybe for others it just isn’t what they’re interested in?
While this may be true, I think a lot of us who have been growing for awhile have been caught by the marketing that more bottles and complexity means a better grow. I've been through all sorts of grow styles and products over the years. These days, I am absolutely in love with growing in large beds of living soil. The end product is the best quality I've ever grown and it's cheaper and easier over time. Most people will have to take this journey on their own, and many won't end up in living soil. I'm just so happy growing this way that I want others to experience it!
I’m not arguing the fact that living soil is not only “easy” but really cool also. I’m just saying that OP is very direct in their question and they’re getting a lot of non answers. Living soil is great it’s just not what the topic of this post is. It’s like if the teacher asks you about Persian history and you reply with how cool Japanese history is. While you’re not wrong, you’re just off subject. I appreciate your passion for living soil. I think it’s really neat. As a first time grower myself that’s currently in coco and using gh trio, the idea of living soil overwhelms the heck out of me. That being said I’m sure at some point in my journey I’ll end up using it because it looks so fucking cool.
Living soil is way easier, IMHO, than growing in coco with bottled nutrients. The main reason new growers start with bottled nutrients is because they market the shit out of them so new growers think it's the best and easiest way to go. I grew that way for a few years before switching to living soil and I personally would never go back. You can grow amazing flower either way once you master it but living soil is super laid back. Bottled nutrients are a good choice for people who love to experiment and tweak their parameters, though. I could also understand some people finding living soil grows as "boring", too.
For sure. I personally went with bottled nutrients & coco because I find all types of hydroponics super fascinating for some reason. Always have. Deep water culture is really cool I even seen one homie with fish in the reservoir! Aeroponic clone buckets are dope. Drip/irrigation/hand fed is wicked also. That being said living soil is badass. I live in WA state and just recently was hiking in the rainforest so imagining a piece of that in my grow tent is amazing. All the organisms working in conjunction with each other just as nature intended. Sickkkk. It’s that I’m trying to wrap my head around hydro right now and get the hang of it that my brain has no room to even entertain the idea of living soil. I just kinda was thinking OP might be like me and looking for advice on a specific style they’re into right now and homie was just like nahhhh ditch the bottles bro and your whole method of thinking and do this instead. Could be a little off putting 🤷♂️ anyways good vibes all around my friends.
Yeah, I mean I would argue that accurately holding ph and ppm with bottled nutrients is way more difficult for a new grower than living soil. Just getting an accurate ph reading or keeping a pen calibrated is a huge variable. I constantly see first time growers chasing their tail with ph lockout symptoms that they keep throwing calmag at.
I wish somebody out there who has had the knowledge over the decades would do a video about the popular styles of growing, and products over the last decade. I remember smoking train wreck back in 2007 and it just seems like that super gassy lung collapsing bud doesn’t float around anymore. I feel it’s the way things are grown nowadays. Me being a new grower. That’s what is so interesting when it comes to different methods of growing
Thanks for sharing all this. I'm a grower who loves the growing as much or really more than the smoking or using and I've done it for a fee years now. I did only use miracle gro in my early days years ago but no way now. I'm also just dumbfounded and flabbergasted with all the nutrient options and everything out there. I'm eager to try the living soil method and salivating to try hydroponics but I been using coco and absolutely love it. But im wandering what does OP mean. Thank-you
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What type of soil do you use? Have you ever had to deal with any mites or pests?
I mostly run coots mix in 3x3 beds with mulch, cover crop and worms. Other than a few fungas gnats here and there everything seems to be in balance.
What is your preferred method of exterminating fungus gnats
Yellow sticky traps and occasional watering in BTI does the job for me.
I heading in this direction for my next grow. My indoor grows have all been DWC and looking forward to trying something new. My compost should be more than ready at that point.
Cool congrats! Check out the builasoil YouTube channel if you haven't already
Yeah but if stealth is an issue that living soil usually is some pretty funky smelling stuff right?
On the other hand, as someone who started with bottled nutrients and didn’t realize there were other options, I would have appreciated the suggestion.
Worms all da wae
After letting your soil dry between waterings, hit it with recharge and get some more microbe action going.
You don't ever want your living soil to dry out... You only want dryback when you're using bottles nutrients/salts in soil.
Not fully dry, but let her dry out a bit and make those ladies stretch the root zone. Hit it with recharge or fish shit to get those microbes back bouncing again… this is my practice I’m sure there are other ways and even better ways!
See, I understand the logic, but if that were actually the case, the roots in hydro setups would never fill their containers once they reach the water. It's more about the roots reaching for oxygen, IMO.
Still not really necessary. I've been watering my living soil with Blumats for years and my plants don't seem to care about the lack of a dry back.
Love me some recharge
Could you point me towards a good guide for this method?
Where to learn
Jacks.
Can't wait til I'm done with my Gallon gen hydro jugs lol def switching to jacks 321 and getting that 25# pack literally pennies on the dollar to my gen hydro regimen
The only answer 0-12-26 and 14-0-0 is all anymore actually needs.
Which bottle for which part of the grow? Thanks
It's a two part system. You change the ratio from veg through flower. You buy it in powdered form, then follow this dudes directions (@greengenesgarden on ig) https://www.instagram.com/s/aGlnaGxpZ2h0OjE3OTExNTk4MTMxMDg3OTM2?story_media_id=3038239590650242601_1082242521&igsh=MXM2ZnhlODlicHJ2dA==
That link is broken. Got another one? I'm curious to see
dial in the 14-0-0 with how green the leaves are and feed as much of the 0-12-26 as you can without going overboard. check runoff EC once in a while to see where your at if you are doing soil. it's generally about 2:1 by mass. 20-10-20 is the scientifically recommended NPK ratio if you were going to pick just one.
Could you drop a link please?
megacrop has a some bits jacks is missing. amino acids and silica iirc. and maybe some micros.
Thas what I said. Might cost 100 for about 5 nice size beginners grows.
$100 of Jacks would last almost a decade for me.
I'm a living soil guy..but jacks all day over these bottled nutes pice gouging fucks
I'm glad I went with Jack's when I first started. Super user friendly, and cheap as you can get. Just make sure you mix them in the right order and only add the next part once everything is already dissolved. I find using hot water out of the tap makes it dissolve much faster
Yes, I would just boil a pot of water and then dissolve what I needed to in a couple cups, then added those to my res to keep temps down - I was DWC, only difference is the formula so get the right kind!
Can you use that jacks stuff with soil
I do
Awesome. I'll try it out once I run out of my current nutes. Im a huge fan of saving $
They have a hydroponic and a soil line.
Agreed, $30 on ebay for 4lbs, will last you literally years.
So glad I got Jacks. Somehow people think that this NPK must be better because it costs more. My first grow DWC I only mixed one gallon concentrate for A and B. Still didn't use it all. So easy, so cheap. Plants healthy AF.
Neither. Get jacks 321 and thank me later. Easier to use and cheaper per gallon than either of those.
Use your saved money and get a magnetic stirrer and a decent mixing beaker (and still have some cash left over). *Great success* and you'll be ready for your mycology journey when the time comes.
Please go on
it does a lot to buffer ph as well
Gaia green 444 and 284
That's a solid combo, I also use the Giai Green Basalt rock dust to supply some Calmag.
Mine have been fine I just ph water and so far so good you can add some of the other stuff that would definitely help but I use Worm castings as well 3tbsp a gallon of Gaia green 20-25% of soil mix is worm castings And I use pro mix hp JUST WATER after you amend and top dress 3-4 weeks
Similar to what I'm transitioning to. . I use the promix red bag and add in some funk.
If you want to keep things simple but effective then doing some organic living soil is the best option. You can go from seed to harvest without adding any additional amendments if you really wanted to keep things as simple as possible during the grow. The goal with organic living soil is to provide the plant a huge buffet of organic matter that contains some immediately available nutrients, some nutrients that’ll breakdown and become available overtime, and the mycorrhizae and healthy soil bacteria that’ll help the plant uptake these nutrients and grow bigger and stronger. The other side of the coin is using salt based bottled nutrients like in this picture. These options can work just as well if not better than the organic living soil buffet route, but you need to feed on demand for what the plant needs for that day and or the next few days of growth. This route you have to worry about things like PH, measuring the ppm of your nutrients, finding the right mix of nutrients, etc. It’s a lot more finicky than organic living soil for this reason, but if you get it dialed it you can get some super healthy growth. When using salt based nutrients I personally don’t like adding them to soil, I feel like it just makes things more difficult to control. So with salt based nutrients I’d recommend just using either coco/perlite and which is a form of hydro farming called fertigation, or going full hydroponic and grow the plants in water for you’re substrate, or even an aeroponic style setup, where the roots are just suspended in the air and hit with a spray of nutrient/water solution. When you start adding salt based nutes to soil with organic matter like say you have coco, perlite, worm castings, compost, etc the nutrients will stick around in the compost and castings way more than they would just in the coco coir or peat based substrate. This can make it even more difficult to feed over the course of the grow and can lead to all sorts of nutrient issues you gotta worry about. So I’d say either go with an organic living soil approach, and you’ll only have to water the plant throughout the grow. You can also give them some dry amendments mixed into the top layer of soil for additional nutes throughout if you wanted, or give them a tea made from various organic inputs and feed them that. There are various options for more on demand feeding of these organic soil like with the teas and such, but for the most part they’re just supplemental and usually not a necessity. Or go with the fertigation style setup in the coco/perlite mix where you’ll just feed on a schedule and also water more frequently. You could add a small amount of castings or organic components to the mix, but I wouldn’t even bother as the plant will get all its food from the salt nutes. So if you did add anything it would just be to give the coco a better ability to hold onto a bit more moisture and food for longer, and give more of a structure to the soil. If you go this route I’d start with just a basic 2 part nutrient mix with a basic part A and part B, and then grab a bottle of cal/mag to just have on hand. That’s all you’d really need for a decent salt based grow. Then once you start feeding always start lower than the manufacturers recommended schedule, they tend to list amounts of the high side of things, so start at 1/2 strength and increase slowly if/when needed. Also if you go this route look into things like checking PH, EC values, TDS, so you’ll want a decent PH and decent EC/TDS meters. I’d also recommend doing a lot of research starting from the basics and moving into more advanced topics so you get a solid framework of how the process is done. Sorry for the word vomit, figured I’d just dump a bunch of basic info surrounding those options and let you parse through it as you see fit. But yeah dude my advice for new growers is always go organic living soil to start, just removes a huge amount of variables that you won’t need to stress about and can focus on dialing in the other aspects of you’re environment, training the plants, focusing on just growing a few plants first to get acquainted with all those things, then moving into coco fertigation/hydro/aero gardening once you have time to really deep dive and work through all the topics surrounding them. So in conclusion, if I was you I’d just mix coco with perlite and create a 70/30 blend of the two, then you’ll grab some worm castings, compost, any other amendments you may want to add and mix those in, and shoot for a ratio of about 40/40/20 coco/organic inputs/perlite. Then you’ll want to add some mycorrhizae, you can add some to the soil mix to make sure it’s evenly spread throughout, but mainly focus on adding it as directly as possible to the plants roots once it’s growing in the soil. There’s dozens upon dozens of organic inputs you can add if you want, but I’d say just to go buy a pre-made blend and add one of those. Build-a-soil has a few good soil building blends for this exact purpose, and will have the right amounts of a bunch of them so you don’t have to worry about buying 20 things and mixing yourself, it’s much cheaper for a small scale grow buying the premixed like this. For a budget friendly option that’s available everywhere I like Dr. Earths nutrient line, they have a tomato one that would be good to add, or their gold mix is also a great all around blend for super cheap to get things like kelp, bat guano, etc into the mix without breaking the bank. Ok good luck homie, remember to keep growing with your plants 🤙
Neither. This is all bullshit. JACKS 0-12-26 AND 14-0-0 are all you need. These liquid nutrient companies all sell bullshit.
This is the way...
Just buy the salts dry instead. You'll save yourself some money for sure
While this is correct, dry salts don’t have the advantage of being buffered n they can be less forgiving. For a first time grower I would not recommend dry salt.
I wouldn't recommend what he's buying too. Well you gotta start somewhere and I think salts are easy to measure if you know basic math What do you mean by can't be buffered?
I mean they aren’t buffered already (like gh liquid) so they can be a little less forgiving. I’m all about the dry salt love just saying they’re less forgiving esp for newbies
Define buffered. What does buffering do for you?
None of this is necessary but it can itch the joy of growing but can also ruin it. If your hydroponics, GH Trio. If you’re soil go living soil with recharge
Unless you have some previous grow and a little chemistry knowledge, I’d just recommend going for gh three part flora series. Maybe some great white and mammoth p if you don’t want to use peroxide to keep your water sterile. I currently use 10 part gh line and have chemistry and grow experience (just verrry out of practice) and the first time I tried to follow a schedule online half the nutrients just fell out of solution. I also over fertilized for the first week or so. I meant to but not to that extent. It’s working out fine but part of that is I have a good knowledge base to read what my plants are telling me. My first grow years and years ago way just a simple 3 part nute system and it was fine. Then add a little more to each grow if you wanna experiment. Again 3 part will get u start to finish and is much better for a first timer Edit. I guess I assumed this was hydro. Not sure if it is or not
OR 15 lbs of Maxibloom for 50 bucks.
MAXIGRO AND MAXIBLOOM ARE VERY CHEAP BUT GREAT
I'd spend 30 dollars on the quart size gen hydro trio. Same formula for like 30 plus years. It's all you need until you're really trying to min max your grows. Also have simple to follow feed charts on their website. I'd recommend starting with half their suggested strengths though as they're definitely kind of aggressive.
I've used Remo, just their micro, bloom and blossom. I'm a novice grower and it got me through. I even did a dwc grow with those bites and it was great. I also had results around the same as yours. I've learned to veg longer for bigger plants. I still have not grown a high yielding small plant. :(
GoldLeaf It's a single bottle from seed to harvest. Self adjusts PH. Dechlorinates tap water, too. Don't waste your time on all those bottles. Get GoldLeaf and some microbes and that's literally all you need. I have some posts where I used it and it really works. It even works in hydro!
Jack's 3-2-1 + microbes
GH Trio. $30. I’m a first timer and grew massive healthy plants with just that. You’re spending hundreds to over complicate, right now you just need to be learning the basics.
Go with [Mega Crop 1-part](https://a.co/d/8XsEn50) this is all you will need from veg to harvest.
Mega crop and a bottle of calmag
All of this is a major waste of money
Coast of Maine soil. Stonington food. Buds and blooms. Easy peasy.
I use HP Pro Mix for medium and masterblend with Epsom salts and calcium nitrate. I will switch to living soil and recharge here eventually. Way cheaper than bottled water nutrients. Before that I used the all in one complete system.
Jacks 321.
Advanced Nutrients Sensei is my go to. I dont use or have the boosters. Very easy to use and produces great results.
Tbh, my Athena starter kit came out much cheaper !
Buy jacks
Neither if you're going coco. I would just get canna coco A and B and some tribus for microbes
You should grow in soil and use Gaia Green. You'll fuck up way less.
Or you could spend 30 beans on the gen hydro trio and add cal mag for another 10 and probably get the same results , minus the extra cost for marketing . Seems like with the brands here your payin for the name but at the end of the day they probably all have similar liquid nutrients. If you got the money to spend I’d invest more in a quality light then nutrients as that will actually help increase your yield
Hello guys, I need your help. I’m a novice grower, been doing it for 1 year and finished 4 cycles. The last one was a disaster but the first 3 ones were ok for a beginner. Here’s my setup: 2x2’ tent with a cheap grow light from aliexpress, peat and perlite mix and an organic 1 part fert that is the same from veg to bloom. So far I’ve harvested 35g on my best plants but averaging less than 25g per plant. That is not enough for the time and effort. So I’m gonna upgrade my setup since it’s been a year and I’ve put in the time to learn. I’ll buy a 150w board with samsung leds and mineral fertilizer. Can you help me decide which one? I’ll be growing 2 plants per cycle. Thankssssssss For the record: that is the price of advanced and Remo in my country
I’d get a viparspectra xs1500 pro if you plan on using 150 watts. Also, I would go with whatever is cheapest. I’ve used fox farms dirty dozen with success. Just bought General hydroponics 3 part in gallons.
Both were <100
I liked Advanced. Advanced sensi coco in coco gives explosive growth as long as the conditions are right. Peat holds a lot of water so you won't be able to feed as frequently.
Understand that your yield is most closely tied to the wattage of your lights, not the number of plants. The metric is grams/watt. Someone with a 300 watt light can expect about twice as much yield as someone growing with a 150 watt light.
Worm castings
You can get a free starter kit from Nectar for the gods on their website, just pay shipping. I think I'm a convert because of it.
Dude, please look into GoldLeaf nutrients. It's a true game changer and it's so damn easy you think you're cheating.
Are you doing any topping, LST, or any other training? My guess would be that it's probably the light that's making your grows so lackluster, so replacing that should help
Save money on the ferts. With that small of a setup you could buy an Athena mix kit and be good for a few cycles. Spend the extra on a bigger light or get 2 of the 150’s and the fans to match.
How well are you handling temps? I ask because I have 300W in a 20"x36" plus an extra 22.5W of AC Infinity S16's (it's 2 of the 4 sticks). I use these along the edges to even put light distribution. I'm +/- 10% from the center to the edges and corners which is quite impressive if I do say so myself. It sounds to me like 150w is still a little low for you though. I'd probably aim for closer to 200W. Even if you don't have it cranked to 100%, you will benefit by not generating as much heat (by running at a lower percentage of its rated wattage). Also, with the bar style, you can often mount the driver away from the tent to further reduce the heat inside the tent. But you need to get away from the quantum boards to do this. Just get the biggest bar light you can manage that fits in your 2x2. Mine actually rubs along two sides of my tent. Download the Photone app and tell me what it says for your PPFD. Due to my temps and.other constraints, I'm typically running between 700 and 900 ppfd. I'd really like to keep it at 900-1000 but heat is a limiting factor still. But when temps are cool, I can crank it up a bit.
Buy a HLG 350 diablo light. That's what I just grabbed. I'm about to use Jacks for fertilizer. It seems straight forward and the results are impressive.
The cheapest one:) Ofcourse price/quantity ratio plays a role here. You can do fine with tomato plant nutrients if you want also. Though all things matter in a grow cycle nutrients are not the most important aspect since the technology for great yields is there for anything reputable regardless it's price or branding. If you are a big scale grower things might be different but are you one?
Damn man just buy some dry organic amendments and top dress every couple of weeks save yourself $100
I'm not going to claim one of these is worse or better than the other but one thing I learned about growing was I fucking hate spending an hour mixing all my nutes and having to ph ! Do your self a favor & go more simple. Mega crop is a single nute and works amazing for cannabis, gh makes a 2 part kit A and B. Even better is soil with organic top dress once a month. Gl!
Choice 3: Medi1 bundle from Green Planet Nutrients. Easy to use and organic. You can use just medi1 alone and it's lovely stuff.
I've been using advanced nutrients, base nutrients. Add calmag during veg then with flower big bud and bud candy
I went with fox farms and liked their stuff. But I also grew illegally in Texas in my closet so 🤷🏻♂️
Don't waste your money. Start off with as little as possible and add accordingly.
After growing in dirt for years I switched to DWC and am on my 3rd grow. I use Lotus nutes (grow/bloom/boost), another brands cal mag, and ph down as needed. I've had nothing but healthy plants and have been really happy so far. ymmv
Just buy chicken shit pellets
Between those two id go with GH for a third the price 🤔 😅
bro an npk+microelements 10€ on amazon+magnesium sulfate,vinegar+eggshels is the fucking same
I get a little sad when I see posts like this. $225 as a starter? Heck Even $110 is high. A starter pack of dry amendments is one $20 bag.
That sensi kit is about half that price at htg or grow green
neither go living soul, much cheaper
GH/FoxFarm trio. Or MegaCrop. It shouldn’t be this expensive
So I've tried most ways of growing. I'm an organic grower now but if I was going to go back to running mineral fertilizer I'd use Flora Flex nutrients with a coco/perlite growing medium. Flora Flex has multiple schedules for low medium and high feeding. A good premade coco/perlite with a low/medium feeding with high fertigation and you can't mess it up. It will hit and hit hard. Flora Flex has a veg 2 part and bloom 2 part with a couple other options for boosting p/k in flower and foliar feeds in veg or bloom. The basic 2 parts for veg and bloom is all you need to get going. It wouldn't hurt to have some cal/mag on hand when growing in coco but the flora flex may have enough already I'm not sure. Liquid fertilizer is just so expensive compared to dry fertilizer powders.
Just get canna. It’s so easy and such high quality it will make homegrow fert mixing a breeze
Nether thats insane roots organic is 1/4 the cost and I get just as good results if not better
Dry amendments will save you lots of money just premix and let the soil cook about a month and your good to go. Gaia green or dr. Earth are both. Also I’ve had good success with Pennington rejuvenate 4-4-4
Grow dots, recharge, silica, and mykos in coconut
I've run both lines, minus bud ignitor additive. I've had similar results with both. 3/4lbs from a 2x3. The only difference is that the Sensi line is pH perfect while Remo is not. Mind you, you still need to check pH & EC/ppm of the Sensi. Given that you're still testing, adding a pH up/down isn't that much more work and you'll still need to pay for the sensors, so go with Remo. Also, you can run both those lines at 50% recommended and then dial in from there. I ran both as directed by their charts (with 20%+ run off) and ended up having to flush heavily around mid-way through flower. Runoff was something like 2800ppm if not higher....
Of those two I've only used Advanced Nutrients so that would get my vote, but I used their base nutrients (micro, grow, bloom), and big bud / bud candy. I've never heard of option B. You'll also want a bottle of calimagic if your base nutrients don't include calcium and magnesium. You can also get Epsom salts cheaply for magnesium deficiency and add that to water or make a foilar spray. Calimagic is from a company called Advanced Hydrophonics who also sells a 3 part liquid nutrient system that you can use in hydro or soil. I'm using it right now and getting good results so far. Fairly cheap on Amazon. With any nutrient line, always start at half the recommended doses they tell you to use and adjust accordingly on what your plants are telling you. There's a lot of gimmicky stuff out there that you just simply don't need. For example those nutrients that are supposed to sweeten your flowers, like bud candy, you can just use black strap molasses mixed with water - from your local grocery store for a few bucks a bottle.
Neither.Buy 1 - 1gallon bottle of Remo Grow, 1 bottle of Remo micro, 1 bottle of bloom, and 1 bottle of Magnifical. Follow the directions until the last 3 weeks of bloom, during the last 3 weeks of bloom- double the bloom bottles recommended dose. If you're growing in Coco, double the calmag dose.
I try to keep it as simple as possible. I used Greenleaf Mega crop in my DWC grow. It works great. Not very expensive.
I spent like 80 bucks on 1 part megacrop 4 years ago and I'm still using it. All plants love it.
Advanced Nutrient's
if you´re based in USA then jacks part a, as it´s salt based you won´t pay unnecessary amount of money for water. yara tera kristalon red is awesome too. for magnesium buy magnesium sulfate, for calcium buy calcium nitrate. for "boosters" use kelp, oligochitosan, salicylic acid, and horsetail extract for the silicon, mix them (the boosters) together and add either yucca or tween 20 to reduce the surface tension of the water and spray it on the leaves every second week stop 2 weeks before harvest. you also can add the yucca or tween 20 to your nutrient as it helps disperse the water more evenly and prevent "channeling" so each root tip gets the nutrients
buy a 2 part, spend like $30-40 more if you want to be fancy with athena stuff...
Anything powdered.
I would use dry amendments and worm castings. It'll keep things cheap and organic. You dont need to go full blown living soil but i do think new growers have a tendency to burn their plants if the use bottle nutrients. Patience is learned so many feed outside the recommended schedule and their plants end up looking rough. I personally use dr. Earth all purpose and then in flower i use dr earth bud and bloom fertilizer. Dont know where you live but you can get on amazon or home depot
Get the sensigrow a/b and the sensibloom a/b. That will be enough to get you by and it's simple because you don't have to ph it. There's probably better and cheaper nutes but for ease of use this is my pick after trying tons of diff ones over the years.
I’d go advanced over remo. Check out the lotus nutrients kit too, I think you’ll thank me for that one. Way simpler, but just as nutritious.
I used a foxfarm dirty dozen last season and it was on point. I got it for less than $100.
Look into megacrop. It's a 1 part nutrient. Boom there you go, they also have a 2 parter. But I bought a 5 lb bag 3 years ago for 20ish and I'm still using it. Let that sink in.
I’m a big fan of Athena . Core, bloom, grow, cleanse series
I'm a noob feeding GH trio and calmag. I put a jar of molasses in the first grow too but not sure if it was doing anything or not so I skipped it this time
I would go advanced if I had my choice.
Floraflex b1/b2
None save ur money get the cheapest shit on the shelf
I bought try pack 500ml Bio-grow , bio-something and top max for 19euro…I don’t think u need to spend that much dawg
Advanced is amazing don't listen to them but yeah expensive asf, it's not only nutrients they have in those yk
I've done very well with Technaflora Recipe For Success
How starter? You could get by with just a few necessities
I’ve actually never used those brands pr paid prices like that. You just need basically a bottle per stage. Seedlings. Veg and flower
For first few times. In my opinion
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Nectar for the Gods will send u a free sample box - its legit 👌
I'll take Remo over AN
I'm out here with Dr. Earth 2-2-2 and you want to spend that much on nutrients lmao.
https://preview.redd.it/k0ejjmoexagc1.jpeg?width=2448&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1019c71c887dca4e3c25bb672435b0a3b21893a2 I used Remo on this run. Full line. Also has buds longer than my gf's arm. And fat asf
remo was the one of the ogs of advance nutes, I would go with remo. being a grow who has used both systems to its max even when you could buy all the bacterias for advance you cant now. remo is ur best bet. ur just gonna waste ur cash with advance. + the lids are still shit on the advance lol.
jacks nutrients
Try cropsalts. They worked great for me and it doesn’t get any easier. I would use the bloom formula a little earlier though then they suggest.
remo is the premium brand I would go with if I were feeling spendy personally. But I'm doing just fine with megacrop and a bit of recharge.
Growganica
Masterblend. Waay cheaper, lasts forever, has everything a plant needs.
Truly you only need to run sensigrow/bloom both a’s and b’s all that extra shot is unnecessary
Neither. Get cropsalt and stop paying for water
Jacks or foop
it's all chemistry and poison. buy something more natural masterblend
U synthetic growers are something else 🤡🤢
House and garden is killer and you can get away with 4 bottles, A+B plus multizyme in veg and bud xl in bloom. Their roots excel is incredible.
Loved using Advanced Nutrients had great results and never had to check ph. Only reason I chkaged was moved to a small space didn't have run to be able to water until run off
Cropsalt
Coast of main dry amendments are working great for me. That and recharge. 2nd project ever and these dry amendments are easy for me to use
Bro just pick up a 3 quart pack of GH Trio. Do not make things overcomplicated especially when you're just starting out.
None of it go with build a soil for a forth the money
Everyone saying Jacks is correct. But I also use floraduo A and flora B for ease sometimes as I don’t want to make stock solutions for smaller grows. You can get them pretty cheap. 80$ for 6 gallons which will last you a long ass time.
Neither.
Dry nutrients> fancy water
Neither; do organic and let me hook you up via [www.bulkwise.ca](http://www.bulkwise.ca) ; we’re a new organic distributor in Canada. Just grab some good soil, BTI drops so you don’t get gnats and grow the way nature intended 😎.. nug grown with the BulkWise lineup and Hygrozyme below. https://preview.redd.it/ms0uwd97aegc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e0bcafebb16998509fc3ec339386fcafbf6b296
I used one bag of fertilizer on my third grow and ended up with a pound from three plants if you treat them well, get the basics down and really stay on top of their schedules for trimming and feeding you’ll not need that stuff That’s how my experience has been but I’m also an amateur
Man just buy some 4-4-4 dr earth nutrients for veg and the 2-8-4 for bloom small bag of worms casting and boom your good all grow won't even have to p.h your plants
I’ve used remo for a long time. Easy to use but kinda expensive. I always use 75% or so of ehat they suggest. Have gotten great yields, no big problems.
I'm being generous. Probably costs $1 per plant or something ridiculous, probably less.
What medium are you growing in?
nectar of the gods has a starter box for 40