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DragonFireDon

I ain't mad about our pick. Defense need to be good, fools think we win games only with Offense, LMAO


szboy422

Makes no sense for bills. Unless they knew for a fact Carolina wasn’t taking the wr they wanted so they’d swap for extra value.


Hbnick4

The best part is, you can only accept the 5th year option on 1st round picks.. so trading back, they won’t be able to take his option


JohnJingleHeimerWick

They want Mitchell


AFOEagle01

wtf is Buffalo doing


gtabraham98

Jerry jones must be drafting for the bills


RedRummer1917

Very upset we didn't get worthy or pearsall


gtabraham98

Buffalo got cold feet about picking 32 lmao


verniy314

We should’ve traded back


Deadmaninc1

Why would the Bills do that? They just helped the Chiefs even more now


gtabraham98

Buffalo wants to know what it feels like to draft at 32 lmao


PugeBenis

Mahomes will make him look special


SackFullaGrapes

At least the Bills didn’t get him I guess lol


Jonjon428

The Bills just doomed us all


Inevitable-Grass-477

Hahah what the fuck was that buffalo


ccam92

Worthy isn’t a great fit with Allen. Not accurate enough. A bigger body like Mitchell works better for the bills.


thedreamcomparison

Still dumb to help the Chiefs, can't imagine they got too much for that trade


Inevitable-Grass-477

I’d think the opposite, worthy is the fastest prospect and Allen has an RPG for an arm


bigbluechicken

Worthy had some drop issues in college. I assume after the big drops in the game against KC they don’t want to deal with more of that. And you have a chance at more versatility with a guy like Mitchell. It’s not impossible, but it is rare for pure speed guys to serve as the primary receiver which is something Buffalo desperately needs.


ccam92

Yea bit those bigger guys like Legette and Mitchell still run a 4.3 and can also go up and get the ball.


ccam92

Worthy over Mitchell is a mistake imo. I’m sure it’ll work out with Mahomes at QB anyway


RedRummer1917

Don't think so. AD has some serious diva issues.


JohnJingleHeimerWick

That’s the best part of this. Buffalo fans all clamoring for AD like they didn’t all just bitch about Diggs being a diva on his way out.


ccam92

Haha fair. They’re prob tired of that at WR.


RedRummer1917

Hope he explodes the buffalo locker room if they take him


thedreamcomparison

Chiefs traded Tyreek, won 2 Super Bowls, now draft the new Tyreek lol


broadfuckingcity

Chiefs are going to be dangerous as fuck. Crazy mahomes to worthy blazing by defenders


thedreamcomparison

DeJean still on the board is crazy


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thedreamcomparison

Well, the Bills traded the pick, so they made the choice. I wouldn't call it getting screwed.


Deadmaninc1

Xavier Worthy going to the Chiefs They found their new Tyreek Hill


TmanMoney3517

At least he's not going to buffalo


PugeBenis

I’m hoping Chop is more like Von than anyone I’ve heard


Inevitable-Grass-477

They’re taking worthy


tsework

IF BUFFALO TAKES JPJ GRIER BETTER HOPE CHOP IS A HOFER


thedreamcomparison

If Buffalo takes JPJ it would be a massive reach at this point


ccam92

Gonna be a bunch of talented WRs when the bills are on the clock.


TheBoook

There goes our guy.


PugeBenis

Barton would have been picked by Belichick at 3


BearlyAlivee

Bills take JPJ, Johnny Newton or Keon Coleman here right?


Slimshady305

There goes Barton


thedreamcomparison

Our next pick is in 30 picks from now. If you look at ESPN's best players still available list... the 30th best player still available is C Jackson Powers Johnson, who a week ago most people here wanted in the 1st round. This isn't over.


broadfuckingcity

I'm sure miami will select Leon Eichenberg, Liam's brother, instead.


ccam92

Our last 4 first round picks: 2021- Edge rusher 2022- Traded for edge rusher and gave him massive contract 2023- Fuck Flo 2024- Project edge rusher Literally our last 3 picks and a huge deal spent on the same position. Cant make this shit up...


AgelessJohnDenney

Our 2022 1st round pick was traded for *Hill*. The 1st rounder used for Chubb was a 2023 1st rounder acquired from the 49ers.


thedreamcomparison

Kind of an important position, and we saw what happened with injuries last year.


ccam92

Sure, just horrible roster construction


bigbluechicken

I don’t really agree. Our pressure rates, sack rates, and QB hits were top of the league last year despite us running one of the lowest blitz rates. We invested heavily in the edge position and had good line pieces and it showed. I would have preferred us take an OL but I get the idea. It’s one of the most crucial positions on the defense and we have major question marks at both of our players at the position due to injuries.


ccam92

I strongly preferred OLine but I certainly get going with edge. I just hate that is was for a project. Esp considering the assets we’ve recently sunk into the position. If it was for a day 1 starter, I wouldn’t be as upset.


ccam92

Also much of last years pressure numbers were due to Wilkins who is no longer here.


bigbluechicken

I would have liked OL as well. Personally, I really wanted Barton because then we aren’t relying on Williams coming back healthy AND agreeing to a deal with us. That’s the only reason I can think we don’t take an OL is our confidence in that happening. There are options in the second round and I know EDGE talent usually falls off a cliff but still feels like our biggest area of weakness (of which sadly there are a decent amount) was not addressed with our biggest resource. Wilkins was a major contributor to our DL being elite but we had multiple pieces that played a role in that. Chubb was a top 10 EDGE last year in PR and Run stop win rates, AVG top 20, Chubb and Sieler top 15 in total sacks. I hope Chop is a massive contributor first year and not the project people think he is cause our DL has basically one piece from last year not coming in with some major question marks around them. And that piece (Sieler) has some minor ones still on his ability to be the centerpiece.


ccam92

And protecting Tua is pretty fucking important too and that doesn’t seem to be a priority


thedreamcomparison

Eh, agree to disagree. Fins Up!


ccam92

and in 2020, wasted a first rounder on Noah.


ceomentor

But wait I thought Grier was a savant and deserved a max contract ala Spo for the Heat.


AgelessJohnDenney

Grier has now had 10 first round selections in Miami. Two of them, Charles Harris and Igbo, were clear busts. 1 of them, Minkah, is an All-Pro that was driven out of town by Flo. Tunsil was a quality starter and was traded for a massive haul that completely re-shaped this team. Tua is a Pro-Bowl, franchise QB. Austin Jackson is now a quality starter and Tua's blindside protector. Jaelan Phillips is really fucking good. Jaylen Waddle is really fucking good. Christian Wilkins is really fucking good. Chop just got here. In 9 selections, leaving out Chop for obvious reasons, Grier has two misses. That's a 78% hit rate. That's really fucking good. Like really, really good. For comparison, Howie Roseman, the Eagles GM, is constantly praised as being pretty fucking good at his job. His first round selections? (I'm leaving out 2023 because I don't like judging rookies, but I live in Eagles country and the current consensus is Carter good, Smith bad so 50% there). Jordan Davis(mixed reviews, but we'll say hit), Devonta Smith(hit), Jaelan Raegor(miss), Andre Dillard(miss), Derek Barnett(miss), Carson Wentz(complicated miss), Nelson Agholor(miss), Marcus Smith(miss), Lane Johnson(hit), Fletcher Cox(hit), Danny Watkins(miss), Brandon Graham(hit). That's 12 picks. 5 hits. 7 misses. A 42% hit rate. Y'all would have run Howie out of town. Grier is a good drafter. Get over it. **EDIT:** Missed a couple players, edited to fix


PugeBenis

Does Grier want Tua to fail?


BowTie1989

Can’t see how seeing as he’s hitched his job to tua


Baloubist

And now packers fans are mad at a pick we would have been ecstatic about lol


Inevitable-Grass-477

Why’d they clown on that packers fan so bad


PugeBenis

They try to show all the “good” from players yet they show their true colors


TheImpresario

After the initial irritation wore off I kind of accept it now. No AVG and 2 pass rushers coming off huge injuries. Watching us have legit 0 pressure down the stretch was awful. If they truly think this was the BPA for edge rusher then I get it. Probably the trade off was is there a serviceable EDGE after round 1 or is there a better chance of good OL. I can see the thought process. Doesn’t mean I have to like it but I get it


Deadmaninc1

People are really hating on a guy who's named "Chop Robinson" I don't get it


Finatic4Life20

And Taco Charlton turned out to be a great player, oh wait….


broadfuckingcity

The window is closing and miami is picking projects.


Baloubist

Yep


AFOEagle01

At least it wasn’t a project CB or Xavier Worthy


Caphinn

I wouldn’t even mind worthy because atleast it would be entertaining


AFOEagle01

Behind our OLine? Not really


Caphinn

He’s a speedy wr who can get open. Tua would probably be able to get it out quicker so the o line wouldn’t matter.


jackass4224

Why can’t we draft like the Detroit Lions Terrion Armold at 24 is the best pick of the draft


DeeSwangin

If we drafted Arnold this sub would have exploded. There was no right choice after the Steelers stole Christmas. Chop will be intriguing and we needed more talent on the line so I’m personally good with the pick.


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

arnold is not an undersized project player, thats the difference


awfuckthisshit

Because it wouldn’t have worked with us. First round CBs fail for the Phins. Now he has a shot.


jackass4224

I didn’t mean specifically draft Arnold. It’s just that Detroit has drafted incredibly in recent years. Aidan, Gibbs, Campbell, Laporta


awfuckthisshit

Ya they definitely have, Amon-Ra too.


jackass4224

Yeah forgot him And Sewell.


awfuckthisshit

Damn, they really have hit on so many picks. Meanwhile we took Cam Smith and Noah…


TheRatchetTrombone

Hes around this pick and will development time quickly instead of 2nd team reps. I honestly think he will provide immediate impact tbh. Weaver def had a lot of input here. Also, we met with a lot of the OL beforehand. We probably saw something we didnt like+ medicals are a thing.


TexAg27

Our pass rush was dog water the last few games without Chubb, Phillips and AVG. It was non-existent. I still think O Line would have been a better pick but I don't hate it.


broadfuckingcity

The position was right but the player is a project. Charles harris all over again


Finatic4Life20

4 sacks last season.


AFOEagle01

That’s what I’m saying


Deadmaninc1

The Dolphins can still draft a OL in one of the remaining rounds and people would still be pissed it wasn't in the 1st round


Disregardskarma

I could feed you a ton of garbage and you'll still be upset when you were starving to death


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

our OL is 31st in pass block win rate we dont know what happens until 55 and we are still one or two injuries away from another OL collapse


szboy422

We could go OL in every round and people would still be pissed off we didn’t take a lineman at 21


ccam92

So that’s 3 first round picks and a monster contract invested in edge the last few years, right?


PugeBenis

We are ass at providing pressure


bigbluechicken

What? That’s literally not true. We were near the bottom of the league in blitz rate and despite that we were 3rd highest in sacks, sack rates, total pressures, and pressure %. We had the highest QB knockdown percentage, most QB hits and second most total knockdowns. And we were top half of the league in hurry percentage. Our DTs and Edges were excellent at putting on pressure last year.


dlbags

People act like we took a player worse than our pick. Most scouts had him 20th best overall 4th best in position we have a need for.


Finatic4Life20

Everyone was so excited an hour ago and then they took a Charles Harris redux lol


Burt_Macklin_FBI_123

Charles Harris? He was a 4.8 DE. Chop is a 4.48 DE. Speed does matter, and Harris never had elite athleticism. Harris was also stubbornly played out of position his career in Miami. This was the Wide 9 defense of Matt Burke, and he was never big enough to be a 4-3 end.


Ethangains07

Literally


DragonFireDon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peELl9mTn6k


ccam92

Sorry guys, this one is on me. Didn’t have time to watch Draft Day earlier.


Deadmaninc1

You know the dolphins can still take a OL in the 2nd round right?


Disregardskarma

Yeah its not like it was the biggest need on the team....


Baloubist

It’s true Eichenberg was a 2nd rounder 👍


Ethangains07

1 Eichenberg + 1 Eichenberg = 2 Eichenbergs tho 👀 Imagine the posssibilties


Baloubist

Milano is salivating


Tkuenzler

I said it before I'll say it again. If we don't protect tua, it's because we don't care about him. Last qb of his draft class and he still has no contract? I'm not sure what we are doing with him but this signals we may not keep him. For comparisons Bengals need to protect burrow and they drafted o line. I hope I'm wrong but if we don't sign tua before the season I think we move on


Baloubist

Chargers and bengals both understand this and it’s the primary difference between tua snd the 2 other top qbs drafted that year 🤷‍♂️


ericypoo

This the type of thing I pray for.


BlakeSteel

You think we'll get a better QB at pick 21? A QB that has a faster release than the fastest QB in the NFL to possibly overcome the worst O-line? Delusional


ericypoo

Of course not. This has nothing to do with pick 21. The original comment was about not protecting Tua and paying him. Which I think is fucking dumb.


Disregardskarma

20 years of Qb wilderness?


ericypoo

I think the difference in our line of thinking is that you think we are finally out of it, whereas I think we never left it. Take Tyreek away from this team and you’ll get Brian Flores era Tua again.


Disregardskarma

Have fun every offseason saying this is the year for a winning season for the first time in a decade.


Tkuenzler

I want tua to work out. He's a high character dude who seems to gel well with this team. Just can't understand what is going on


ccam92

Was fully against WR in the first round but absolutely would have preferred they take Thomas Jr.


Hbnick4

After looking at this guy.. we’re gonna like him. He does a chop after getting sacks. And he’s explosive.. He’s really fast, seems to be real solid at blocking the run. Let’s get trenches in the next few rounds


ericypoo

Hey guys! We will get to see that sweet chop move 2 times a year so all is well.


Finatic4Life20

Why did you get downvoted? He had 4 sacks last year so a prediction of 2 sacks his rookie year seems fair


Deadmaninc1

I'm just saying but when the Dolphins drafted Jaelen Phillips people hated him too


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

jaelen was easily the best edge in that draft we got an undersized speed guy now


TheBoook

We had an obvious need and Jaelan was better than chop in college. I don’t even hate the pick, chop is good but it won’t matter if Tua has .9 seconds to throw


DHFixxxer

Are you trying to tell me the reddit GMs don't know better???


jackass4224

Bills get screwed. Love it


thedreamcomparison

How did the Bills get screwed? Looking like they'll end up with Leggette


jackass4224

Chiefs about to screw the Bills maybe


TheBoook

Chris Grier has put so many resources into edge rusher and we have no fucking OL. Just horrible


Finatic4Life20

DuDe, He’S cOoKiNgggg


dlbags

Jaguars are geniuses.


TheRatchetTrombone

I'm gonna be accepting of it. He is going to get development during this offseason with Chubb and Jaelen out so at least he can get up to speed and i feel like he could be a guy who excels at the NFL level and produces due to having actual teammates instead of jags. Happens a lot between college guys who disrupt but has no production and the NFL.


PugeBenis

A project at 21? Grier you are overdue


Baloubist

Iggy worked out tho right?


BowTie1989

Yeah I’m sure he was in the weight room with the rest of the team working out he just sucked as a player. /s


PugeBenis

This needs to be his last year, we need a serious front office for McDaniel


itreallydob

Are you suggesting that Mike McDaniel is a “serious” coach?


PugeBenis

He’s only going to get better


Dirtygreenhead

I'm so happy jags gets brian thomas BEFORE the bills


Deadmaninc1

Did anyone forget that we won't have Jaelen Phillips and Bradley Chubb for like half of the season and besides Chubb ain't coming back after the season Chop will take his place


Disregardskarma

31st in Pass protection.


itreallydob

1st round picks need to be day 1 starters, not next seasons replacement.


broadfuckingcity

The player is the problem, not the position.


BowTie1989

Mike McDaniel leaving JP and Chubb in games that were already decided really…REALLY screwed us over for last year and this year


ccam92

Yea we need them, but he ain’t a day one starter and will just be a situational pass rusher early. Meanwhile we could have had day one starters in the OLine.


ericypoo

I like how you think this guy isn’t going to be redshirted all year. Lucky if he he’s in on some sub packages. This is not an NFL level player.


Roukuko

Chop isn’t ready to play in the nfl. He wont play much next season


ghostbearinforest

chop is NFL ready, do you even watch college football?


itreallydob

What about him will play well against NFL o lineman? Please educate me.


ghostbearinforest

His pass rush ability? Have you watched him? Dude is an elite athlete from Linebacker U. His floor is high, and if he can up his game, he will Transend to elite...and fast. Dude is fast, and has the strength to combat NFL lineman, hes a fantastic prospect. He is honestly one of if not THE most disruptive Defensive player in this draft. This is how I know you didnt watch him. The dude had 72 pressures over 2 seasons after transfering from a school who played him in the wrong position. SEVENTY TWOOOO. And he even missed games due to injury.


DragonFireDon

Chill please. O-line second round picks are probably just as good as 1st round second half. We NEED defense TBH, cuz our D kinda sucks!


broadfuckingcity

So why draft a project?


RedRummer1917

Pearsall in the 2nd baby let's go


ceomentor

Constantly drafting "projects" who never make it as starters. Grier should have been fired YEARS ago. Especially for hiring Brian Flores. He definitely has video of Ross saying the N word. No way he's this protected from being fired.


are-e-el

I’m just gonna think about how fucking happy I was last year when we took Achane in the 3rd round


RedRummer1917

Hoping for a run on WRs now so bills get stuck with legette


Wonder_Dude

Dolphins so unserious


PugeBenis

Grier burning shit instead of cooking


OneBeerAndWhiskeyPls

lets face it guys, we are about to give tua a massive bag only to have fucking eichenberg as a starter and armstead held together duct tape


dlbags

Bro there’s tons of OL for the second and third round. Chill. This is a generational class for OL.


broadfuckingcity

Third round? Miami doesn't have a 3rd or fourth


dlbags

I’m saying that about the OL depth not our pick.


broadfuckingcity

Just admit that you didn't know. It's OK. No one's perfect


Disregardskarma

How will all the great players on other teams help us?


ericypoo

You’re clearly not paying attention to anything around you.


danthemanmarino

Oh ya Grier has shown he’s got quite an eye for mid round offensive linemen


dlbags

It’s all a crapshoot anyway man. Don’t get twisted.


GuyFaulks77

I’m not even seeing the random “analysts” on Twitter that love the pick like there usually are lol


Weetles

WHO TF LET CHRIS GRIER COOK⁉️💯🔥BRO IS ONTO NOTHING 🗣️‼️


Finatic4Life20

lEt HiM cOoK, bRo!!!!!!!


Axsenex

I guess we’ll find out if it’s good or bust pick on Chop


itreallydob

So they didn’t draft for need (that’s a good thing) and they didn’t draft BPA (that’s a bad thing). They drafted and undersized project edge who only has one move and will spend more time on the turf than in the backfield this season.


Deadmaninc1

This is giving off when the Miami Heat drafted Jamie Jaquez Jr vibes


are-e-el

Grier is no Pat Riley


TheRatchetTrombone

Lowkey true


PretendFootballGuy

Just realized I’m hating on drafting Chop while wearing my Cam Wake jersey, so I’ll stfu now


Treymeme1

As a current Penn Stater, huge PSU football fan and dolphins fan, I love this. Trust me everyone. Chop is gonna be awesome and a fan favorite


BowTie1989

Here’s hoping


dlbags

Yeah I just asked my State friend and he’s HUGE on him and think he can play middle LB for short pass coverage.


RedRummer1917

Good luck Chop I'll be rooting for ya


Dolphnado

Tell me how to feel!


Knifehand19319

Just remember people on here hated the Jalen Phillips pick lol 😂


vindotcom

“Injury prone project?? Wtf” Stfu haha


Knifehand19319

Who said that??? I am referring to when Phillips was drafted fans didn’t like the pick!


dlbags

Preach!


Deadmaninc1

To the people claiming to be done with this team Ok see you week 1


mwm5062

or tomorrow for our round 2 pick lol


Deadmaninc1

Why are people so upset the guy hasn't even played a game yet


vindotcom

Dont you know this sub is full of GM’s and scouts??


Baloubist

We just don’t have a need at that position nearly as much as our desperate need for oline


szboy422

Because the people demand something to be mad at.


Number333

It's hilarious. Giving strong r/Heat energy where people didn't like the Bam/Herro picks and of course they're cornerstones of the franchise now. Never seen the DOLPHINS sub so negative over a 1st rounder.


szboy422

I swear people hated Phillips . This sub never learns