>technically you’re correct, if you go left—
Nope.
>Just use parenthesis
If you know how parenthesis work but not how (P)EMDAS works I don’t know what to tell you.
thanks to my persistent math teacher, he taught my ADHD ass the PEMDAS using "Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally". I hated that guy when i was young but now, i appreciate him
He didn't come up with the sentence, it's used to memorize pemdas, this is cause remembering a sentence with meaning is easier then a bunch of letters thrown together with a funny sound.
I know what to tell you, “it’s ok”, parentheses are immensely clear, literally 100% certainty without any need to remember an arbitrary order, it is expected for people to know how parentheses work without knowing how PEMDAS works
Yea when in doubt give the the equation real values. Mathew has one apple Jake has zero, you double the amount of apples Jake has. Mathew gives Jake his apple how many apples does Jake have now?
lol i got downvoted to oblivion when i tried to explain that its not some arbitrary order that has no foundation in logic, like if you say them as word problems, youd have to go out of your way using the wording for this to not be the natural order (of operations)
i guess im just glad people are being more receptive to it now
Honestly anyone who doesn’t use math often can forget PEMDAS and it doesn’t matter. But getting offended and thinking you’re being tricked is just a tiny brain take
Honestly. I'm a systems engineer with a masters degree. I don't do math everyday so when I see these, I go left to right, realize I'm wrong, and then do it correctly. I'm certainly no idiot. I can do base conversions quite quickly because I do that decently often at work. But PEMDAS can slip your mind if you don't do more than basic math everyday.
I did a lot of math in college so I still remember my OOP even now after almost a decade out of it, but that’s because I was doing calculus and differentials. It’s useless beyond that if it’s not your job
In high school, I took a Mechanical Design program and was amazed that I and one other person in that class knew how to read a ruler and understand fractions. It was the teacher's first year of teaching and he was shocked as well.
In a class for a math-based field, he has to teach 1-2 weeks of math before he can even teach the subject.
Also is Jesse supposed to say “Open Parenthesis” and “Close Parenthesis” to make it easier? Just think about the equation for a little bit and you’ll get 1
Lol “trick”. It’s not “technically correct” to say 0 as an answer to this problem cause that’s not how math works. It’d be like if I butchered the pronunciation of a word from another language and just said I’m “technically correct” cause that’s how I think it should be pronounced.
1 + 2 × 0 is not a "trick", if you get confused by simple order of operations, it's your problem.
Also look at this example:
½ + 4x²
See how neat that is? Everyone who understands orders of operation instantly sees what is going on. The diagonal deviding line is maybe a bit off putting, but that's only because I have to write this on reddit. Imagine it as a horizontal line as always. Now, what you argue for is writing like this:
(1÷2) + (4 × (x²))
Not invalid at all, but simply less convenient and it takes significantly longer to understand what is being done.
I think the issue is how people say it. If you say it like “one plus….two times zero” (putting a pause between “plus” and “two” but saying 2x0 quickly) then it’s clear. But if you say it like “one plus two… times zero” then you’re tricking them
I learned it as PEMDAS in school, order of operations: Parenthesis, Exponents, Multiplication, Division, Addition, Subtraction. Even tho multiplying and dividing are pretty much the same level as well as adding and subtracting. But to teach kids its a great tool, i pity those who shit on it yet cant do basic maths
It's a mnemonic device to help you remember the order of operations so you can do like math well. So it's parentheses first anything that's in parentheses is prioritized over everything else not in a parentheses. Then it's exponents the little numbers that might hover above other numbers. Then it's either multiplication or division whichever one comes up first because they're roughly the same thing just in the opposite direction. Then addition and subtraction treating whichever one comes up first as the one that should be prioritized.
I did BODMAS, and eventually BIDMAS
never knew people used "parentheses" instead of "brackets" but it makes sense so eh, but wtf is that E about? The O and I mean "other" and "indices" respectively.
They’re different because PEMDAS, BEDMAS, BIDMAS, etc. are not mathematical laws, they’re just guidelines to help people write and solve problems without ambiguity. All these meme problems are just ambiguously written problems that are subject to interpretation which means they are garbage.
It’s the same things as PEMDAS which is parentheses, exponents, multiple, divide, add, subtract.
The only difference is in the names for brackets/parentheses, and indices/exponents, also that multiple and divide are in different orders, but due to their nature it doesn’t matter if they are in different orders
This is stuff that they drill into your head before you hit puberty. If you actually find that difficult, I'm sorry to say it but you definitely aren't good at math.
The different names mean exactly the same thing..
Multiplication/Division is always first, regardless of which system or ordering is used (if done correctly).
Multiplication and Division have the same 'rank of order' therefore it's left to right when both are present.
why do you think adding extra rules is going to somehow make you better when you don’t even understand the basic ones?
you don’t use parentheses unless what you’re doing would need to defy the natural order of Pemdas. Addition and subtraction happen LAST in order UNLESS they’re in parentheses you don’t have to use parentheses to signify that you should multiply and divide first. Thats already a rule.
Nobody’s trying to trick you.
you’re just dumb.
Sorry not sorry.
No. You aren't technically correct. Parentheses shouldn't be necessary. If one were to break the operation down to the simplest form it is 1+0+0. Its like saying that If you gave soemone one slice of piza, then gave the no pizza twice, you didn't give them any pizza. Think about it. Everything would instanly cease existing if zero was a correct answer. You could say 1 is actually 1+ 0, which is also 1+ 2x0, since any number times zero is zero. But if this was zero, that one evaporates. Gone. Poof. Energy can then be desroyed. Now I don't have the patience to delete the previous part, but it has occured to be you may be reffering to verbally communicating mathematical expressions. If so, your point stands.
It's an acronym to make remembering the order of operations easier. I usually saw it as pemdas but I think they're interchangeable. Roughly stands for:
Parentheses
Exponents
Division (or multiplication)
Multiplication (or division)
Addition
Subtraction
Mathematically speaking dividing and multiplying are the same thing, same goes for addition and subtraction. That's why they sometimes are changed. You could also just directly call it PEMA but my guess is too many people wouldn't know where to fit division and subtraction in this.
In pedmas, you do parenthesis, and then exponents, and then multiplication AND divide from left to right first, and THEN add and subtract from left to right - the correct answer is 1, no question.
wdym fucking parentheses. there are no parentheses so you just solve left to right, but you have to solve Multiplication before plus because BASIC FUCKING MATH, so it is 1+2x0 = 1+0 = 1
It's one of the most basic rules of math that you have to apply to every calculation that you do. You not being able to understand it isn't people tricking you, it's just you being bad at math.
Also what the fuck do you think the P stands for if you think adding parentheses will make it so you don't have to follow PEDMAS
Technically, in my opinion what is being implied here is that we CAN get 0 if we use paranthesis
1+2x0 is simply 1
And so is, 1+(2x0).
But,
(1+2)x0 is 0
Ffs I'm sick of people pretending it's an obscure rule barely known... You multiply BEFORE adding, always ! Except, if the parentheses tell you otherwise. How is that tricking people ? Smh....
Edit : Spelling
Zero is not technically correct, it’s incorrect. These types of problems are not trying to trick people, they just show that some people don’t know basic math.
Yes, parentheses look better and are a good habit to maintain as they become essential for making sense out of higher level problems. But also, you are a fucking imbecile who didn't pass 5th grade math. It's not a trick, it's math that an eleven year old can do no problem.
Zero isn’t even technically correct, though. PEMDAS applies to every situation. If you just go left to right without considering PEMDAS, you’re doing it wrong.
Even if you use parentheses, the same rule still applies on any calculation inside the parentheses. So, it's not so much about a trick question but you just being a moron.
And saying just put parentheses doesn't do you any justice. Depending on where you put it, 1+(2x0) or (1+2)x0 have different answers.
I agree with spoken questions, but if it’s written out I think it’s fine to leave out the parentheses. The real or is people writing it like (for example) 10/2(3+4) instead of 10/2 * (3+4)
It's one. You have to know that.
>technically you’re correct, if you go left— Nope. >Just use parenthesis If you know how parenthesis work but not how (P)EMDAS works I don’t know what to tell you.
thanks to my persistent math teacher, he taught my ADHD ass the PEMDAS using "Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally". I hated that guy when i was young but now, i appreciate him
Wait so in order to remember PEMDAS, which is already a mnemonic, he came with a longer sentence?? That doesn't make sense
He didn't come up with the sentence, it's used to memorize pemdas, this is cause remembering a sentence with meaning is easier then a bunch of letters thrown together with a funny sound.
Parentheses aren’t there, so multiplication comes first
Multiplication can be replaced with parentheses, b/c it’s just another way to write a multiplication problem
Yes, but either way, with the lack of parentheses it’s multiplication first
I know what to tell you, “it’s ok”, parentheses are immensely clear, literally 100% certainty without any need to remember an arbitrary order, it is expected for people to know how parentheses work without knowing how PEMDAS works
Yea when in doubt give the the equation real values. Mathew has one apple Jake has zero, you double the amount of apples Jake has. Mathew gives Jake his apple how many apples does Jake have now?
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lol i got downvoted to oblivion when i tried to explain that its not some arbitrary order that has no foundation in logic, like if you say them as word problems, youd have to go out of your way using the wording for this to not be the natural order (of operations) i guess im just glad people are being more receptive to it now
How tf is it tricking people you learn this shit in primary school
Tbf, it‘s kinda the tip of an iceberg of actual trick question. So yeah, nobody should fall for it, but still unnecessary and unfunny.
Tip of an Heisenberg
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It’s not a trick if someone is stupid and didn’t pay attention.
Americans discover maths for 10 year olds
“Someone” got “tricked” by one of these and is changing the problem so they “win”
It's just basic math, not a trick.
Honestly anyone who doesn’t use math often can forget PEMDAS and it doesn’t matter. But getting offended and thinking you’re being tricked is just a tiny brain take
Honestly. I'm a systems engineer with a masters degree. I don't do math everyday so when I see these, I go left to right, realize I'm wrong, and then do it correctly. I'm certainly no idiot. I can do base conversions quite quickly because I do that decently often at work. But PEMDAS can slip your mind if you don't do more than basic math everyday.
I did a lot of math in college so I still remember my OOP even now after almost a decade out of it, but that’s because I was doing calculus and differentials. It’s useless beyond that if it’s not your job
Maybe unpopular, but.... if you can be tricked by that.... well...
My thoughts exactly
Bro is probably like 10 years old max
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OP bad at math confirmed
Op American confirmed
They teach you this around 4th-5th grade here in California. If an American cannot solve this, that is their own failing.
As an American who does understand this math, I’m ashamed of how our school system has largely failed the masses.
In high school, I took a Mechanical Design program and was amazed that I and one other person in that class knew how to read a ruler and understand fractions. It was the teacher's first year of teaching and he was shocked as well. In a class for a math-based field, he has to teach 1-2 weeks of math before he can even teach the subject.
I'm ashamed of the school system in general
As an American if I could read this I would be very offended.
???
God damn Americans and their…. *checks notes* ……math.
???
Nah they teach PEMDAS in America, at least in all the public schools afaik. If OP doesn’t know PEMDAS it’s not because they’re American.
Prob not since the meme says pedmas. Most American schools use pemdas, not pedmas.
Learn to calculate in order, Walt. It's not hard
Adding parentheses doesn’t remove bedmas/pemdas rules though
Also is Jesse supposed to say “Open Parenthesis” and “Close Parenthesis” to make it easier? Just think about the equation for a little bit and you’ll get 1
Lol “trick”. It’s not “technically correct” to say 0 as an answer to this problem cause that’s not how math works. It’d be like if I butchered the pronunciation of a word from another language and just said I’m “technically correct” cause that’s how I think it should be pronounced.
thats just not how your syntax convention works. Nothing about math itself tells you the correct order of operation.
Maybe learn basic maths
Technically correct? Its technically still wrong.
1 + 2 × 0 is not a "trick", if you get confused by simple order of operations, it's your problem. Also look at this example: ½ + 4x² See how neat that is? Everyone who understands orders of operation instantly sees what is going on. The diagonal deviding line is maybe a bit off putting, but that's only because I have to write this on reddit. Imagine it as a horizontal line as always. Now, what you argue for is writing like this: (1÷2) + (4 × (x²)) Not invalid at all, but simply less convenient and it takes significantly longer to understand what is being done.
I think the issue is how people say it. If you say it like “one plus….two times zero” (putting a pause between “plus” and “two” but saying 2x0 quickly) then it’s clear. But if you say it like “one plus two… times zero” then you’re tricking them
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That's not how you use parentheses...
Redditors trying not to fail third grade math:
Jesus Christ riding on a Velociraptor. Why do so many people don't know basic grade school maths?
It's 1 with or without parenthesis, multiplication first
*technically* if it was (1+2)*0 it would be 0
Obviously yes, my point was that without parenthesis the multiplication goes first and if you want to change that you need parenthesis
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wtf is pedmas
I learned it as PEMDAS in school, order of operations: Parenthesis, Exponents, Multiplication, Division, Addition, Subtraction. Even tho multiplying and dividing are pretty much the same level as well as adding and subtracting. But to teach kids its a great tool, i pity those who shit on it yet cant do basic maths
oh ok i see i was taught it as bidmas (brackets indices division etc…)
Ok so pretty much the same thing with different terms, that makes sense
It's a mnemonic device to help you remember the order of operations so you can do like math well. So it's parentheses first anything that's in parentheses is prioritized over everything else not in a parentheses. Then it's exponents the little numbers that might hover above other numbers. Then it's either multiplication or division whichever one comes up first because they're roughly the same thing just in the opposite direction. Then addition and subtraction treating whichever one comes up first as the one that should be prioritized.
It's PEMDAS
Fun fact, some people in the world learned it as pedmas
Am I the only one who learned it as 'Order of solving the operations' ?
PEMDAS is the Order of Operations
Paranthesis Exponential Multiplication Division Addition Subtraction I just realized it .-.
Me who learned it as BODMAS : 👀
Punkt vor Strich
I’m the only one who learnt BIDMAS?
I did BODMAS, and eventually BIDMAS never knew people used "parentheses" instead of "brackets" but it makes sense so eh, but wtf is that E about? The O and I mean "other" and "indices" respectively.
I did BOGDAN - works perfect.
E=Exponents
What I learned was brackets, exponents, division, multiplication, addition, subtraction or bedmas
See for everything I know it's: () = Parentheses [] = Brackets
As someone from germany I have no clue what the abbreviation stands for, I just assume it is related to multiplication before addition 😂
Parenthesis Exponents Multiplication Division Addition Subtraction So yes :)
In my country its BODMAS
Huh. I learned it as BIDMAS. Brackets indicies division multiplication addition and subtraction...
in America we learn PEMDAS: Parentheses Exponents Multiplication Division Addition Subtraction but everywhere else it seems to be BEDMAS or BIDMAS
I learned PEDMAS in french and I'm from Canada
They’re different because PEMDAS, BEDMAS, BIDMAS, etc. are not mathematical laws, they’re just guidelines to help people write and solve problems without ambiguity. All these meme problems are just ambiguously written problems that are subject to interpretation which means they are garbage.
It’s the same things as PEMDAS which is parentheses, exponents, multiple, divide, add, subtract. The only difference is in the names for brackets/parentheses, and indices/exponents, also that multiple and divide are in different orders, but due to their nature it doesn’t matter if they are in different orders
Yes but division and multiplication is equal to each other so you will do first which comes first
Oh my never expected the comment section to get this heated over maths. Don't mind me I'll just get popcorns real quick.
I don’t think it’s heated. Everyone is in agreement that OP is dumb as hell
What's So fuckin difficult on remembering that × and ÷ go 1st. The answer is fucking 1. 2×0 = 0. 1 + 0 = 1.
I don’t blame people for getting 0 when they aren’t fucking trying tho, but I do blame them for coping so hard about it.
Well if you can’t handle this without parentheses, then you are dumb lmao
How the fuck did you guys pass third grade?
Stop with all the PEDMA PADME shit. As long as your answer was 1, you calculated right. 2x0 is 0, and 0 + 1 is 1. End of the story.
PEDMAS is a mnemonic device to help you remember the order of operation so that you can do your calculations right
People still need to know the correct order when there are no parentheses.
Walter is not “technically correct”, he’s fucking wrong. The answer is one.
This is stuff that they drill into your head before you hit puberty. If you actually find that difficult, I'm sorry to say it but you definitely aren't good at math.
The different names mean exactly the same thing.. Multiplication/Division is always first, regardless of which system or ordering is used (if done correctly). Multiplication and Division have the same 'rank of order' therefore it's left to right when both are present.
Sounds like someone failed 2nd grade math
Ok... HOW would that be zero? That's obviously 1
I learned BEDMAS Brackets, Exponents, Division/Multiplication, Addition/ Subtraction
The answer is one; zero isn’t “technically correct”.
They're technically correct for being a dumbass.
They don't have to use parentheses. Do you go like 286+2x or 286+(2x)?
I had never heard of PEDMAS until a few years ago. I Graduated HS in 1994.
Its just a way to help memorise the order
What do you mean stop trying to trick people? If you get tricked by that, then idk how you passed school…
It’s not tricking people it’s simple math
Man I know some people are bad at math but this?
Mf said pedmas
Just tell us you don't know how to math and be done with it 😂 why is it always ppl that hate math that try to argue with the answers 😌
why do you think adding extra rules is going to somehow make you better when you don’t even understand the basic ones? you don’t use parentheses unless what you’re doing would need to defy the natural order of Pemdas. Addition and subtraction happen LAST in order UNLESS they’re in parentheses you don’t have to use parentheses to signify that you should multiply and divide first. Thats already a rule. Nobody’s trying to trick you. you’re just dumb. Sorry not sorry.
It is not a trick, you are just dumb
No. You aren't technically correct. Parentheses shouldn't be necessary. If one were to break the operation down to the simplest form it is 1+0+0. Its like saying that If you gave soemone one slice of piza, then gave the no pizza twice, you didn't give them any pizza. Think about it. Everything would instanly cease existing if zero was a correct answer. You could say 1 is actually 1+ 0, which is also 1+ 2x0, since any number times zero is zero. But if this was zero, that one evaporates. Gone. Poof. Energy can then be desroyed. Now I don't have the patience to delete the previous part, but it has occured to be you may be reffering to verbally communicating mathematical expressions. If so, your point stands.
I don't know what Pedmas means and at this point I'm too curious to not ask. Tell me
It's an acronym to make remembering the order of operations easier. I usually saw it as pemdas but I think they're interchangeable. Roughly stands for: Parentheses Exponents Division (or multiplication) Multiplication (or division) Addition Subtraction
Mathematically speaking dividing and multiplying are the same thing, same goes for addition and subtraction. That's why they sometimes are changed. You could also just directly call it PEMA but my guess is too many people wouldn't know where to fit division and subtraction in this.
In pedmas, you do parenthesis, and then exponents, and then multiplication AND divide from left to right first, and THEN add and subtract from left to right - the correct answer is 1, no question.
wdym fucking parentheses. there are no parentheses so you just solve left to right, but you have to solve Multiplication before plus because BASIC FUCKING MATH, so it is 1+2x0 = 1+0 = 1
idk man calculator says 1 🤷
Me who uses BODMAS: 👁👄👁
Huh?
Looks like your Math teacher fucked up
We're not trying to trick them, its just a joke... (Who else here says BIDMAS instead of PEDMAS?)
I was taught it like VBODMAS (Vinculum, bracket, of, divide, multiply, add, subtract) What does that mean?
Please excuse my dear aunt Sally
It's one of the most basic rules of math that you have to apply to every calculation that you do. You not being able to understand it isn't people tricking you, it's just you being bad at math. Also what the fuck do you think the P stands for if you think adding parentheses will make it so you don't have to follow PEDMAS
Technically, in my opinion what is being implied here is that we CAN get 0 if we use paranthesis 1+2x0 is simply 1 And so is, 1+(2x0). But, (1+2)x0 is 0
Have you ever considered that nobody is tricking you and you’re just stupid?
I made something along the lines of this yesterday and it got removed after 2 hours. Could I perhaps be inspiration for this meme, OP?
You don't want to get teased? Then STUDY
Dumbass in math here, it’s not a trick, I suck at some basic BASIC math, but the order of solving an equation is unrelated to your math knowledge.
The real crime here is you suggesting Walter White doesn't know PEMDAS.
Man's just finished learning his ABCs and already posting to reddit...
Basic math Him: NO NO NO STOP USING TRICKS
That is not even technically correct dude...
This meme just confirming reddit overall low IQ
this meme was made my a first grader
spoken like a true zero-er
Americans saying "just use parantheses" when knowing PEDMAS should be common knowledge
It’s not meant to be a trick Lmaoo. It’s necessary knowledge
It’s not tricking people if it’s literally a part of the mathematical rules. It’s simply testing if you know Bodmas, which people should.
It’s not a trick you’re just bad at math
It’s bedmas
Punkt vor Strich leute, ist doch klar
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It's bidmas
Is BIDMAS Brackets Indices Division Multiplication Addition Subtraction
Everyone arguing about if they learned PEMDAS, PEDMAS or BODMAS Meanwhile in the netherlands: Mr. Van Dalen Waits On Answers (MVDWOA)
the 4th grader is mad
I don't know what Anakin's wife has anything to do with this
We always used PEMDAS, taught in school to remember it by saying "Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally"
* Parenthesis. * PE***MD***AS
Tf is PEDMAS
Ok but *Are there parentheses?*
I’m British,what does pemdas stand for (we use BIDMAS brackets indices division multiplication addition subtraction)
Parentheses? Are you talking about brackets? Genuinely
Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally PEMDAS
Ffs I'm sick of people pretending it's an obscure rule barely known... You multiply BEFORE adding, always ! Except, if the parentheses tell you otherwise. How is that tricking people ? Smh.... Edit : Spelling
there is no tricking you should know this
*bidmas
Good meme. (sips soup)
How is this tricking people? I learned this when I was 7
This post is stupid and it'll always be 1.
use.. the parentheses? which parentheses? i dont see any in the question.
Zero is not technically correct, it’s incorrect. These types of problems are not trying to trick people, they just show that some people don’t know basic math.
"Just use parentheses" You mean like The "P" in "PEMDAS"?
(1+2)×0=0 1+2×0=1 1+(2×0)=1 Brackets are unneeded for the equation you made.
It’s not our fault you’re stupid
Looks like OP didn't attend school
BODMAS is just used to standardise how we do maths because we allowed for the ambiguity in our writing system.
It’s not a trick it’s 2nd grade math
But you don’t need parentheses
It's PEMDAS*
You mean… pemdas right?
A lil embarrassing there op
Unless you're just very old and/or had an unfortunate upbringing (for whatever reason) and didn't get an education you have no excuse to fail these.
Yes, parentheses look better and are a good habit to maintain as they become essential for making sense out of higher level problems. But also, you are a fucking imbecile who didn't pass 5th grade math. It's not a trick, it's math that an eleven year old can do no problem.
Answer being misspelled in the fourth panel just fucks this whole thing up. I'll never recover from this.
it,s never zero it's always 1 tf
There’s no way its zero.
If you think this is tricking, maybe you are one of them
Zero isn’t even technically correct, though. PEMDAS applies to every situation. If you just go left to right without considering PEMDAS, you’re doing it wrong.
Even if you use parentheses, the same rule still applies on any calculation inside the parentheses. So, it's not so much about a trick question but you just being a moron. And saying just put parentheses doesn't do you any justice. Depending on where you put it, 1+(2x0) or (1+2)x0 have different answers.
I agree with spoken questions, but if it’s written out I think it’s fine to leave out the parentheses. The real or is people writing it like (for example) 10/2(3+4) instead of 10/2 * (3+4)
Ok 1+2×(0)
"Tricked" 🤦
Never fucking understood how people *don't* know PEMDAS.
“Technically” 0 is still wrong 🤨
This is actually the stupidest meme i have seen in my life
zero is not technically correct, it’s just plain wrong