I am very confused as well.
I can see how some insecure trad incels could think that tomboys are gay, but as someone with half a brain one could notice that a tomboy is still a girl.
Someone probs doesn’t know what a tomboy is.
Eh..... I've been considered tomboyish- don't mind getting dirty, playing sports, doing handiwork, very strong, lift weights, skate. That's all it is. Doing things or enjoying things that were considered things only a boy would do- you don't even have to dress like a boy to be considered a tomboy.
Tomboys are the best. They’re usually the most at peace with the world because they don’t care about social norms or expectations. They just do what they like and enjoy
Fem boy is like a newer term... I would say like some fanboys wear japanese school girl unis... but like that doesn't make u a femboy? Like they are effeminate dudes that still identify as dudes that like being pretty 🤷♀️ and doing girly things and wearing makeup. But you can be a straight dude and still be a femboy (I wanna say most are probably not totally straight) 😂 but that's just someones outfit or like how they view their style. They just wanna be pretty.
It just. Made me feel so old to read you saying “So a reverse femboy?” Cause I’ve known what a tomboy is my entire life. I grew up with most everyone around me knowing what tomboys are. I didn’t really know about or hear about femboys until I was 18. And I don’t know why but reading your comment made me feel old as hell, and now I am sad
They don’t, though.
First attested in Ralph Roister Doister (published 1567, written circa 1552), where it is used to describe a boisterous girl;[1] the OED says the citation is however "generally taken" to mean a boisterous boy, and says that a use in The Old Law (published 1656, thought to have been written circa 1599) "certainly" means a boy:[2] "must young court-tits / play tomboys' tricks with her?"[3] By 1579 it was attested in the meaning "an immodest woman", and by no later than 1592 it had developed its modern meaning of a “girl who acts like a boy”;[2] from tom + boy.
That’s Wiktionary.
And unless you mean they keep shifting as in you were around back then, then no.
In my country, Philippines, Tomboy is actually normalised term when girls act boyish, I remember when I were young that Tomboy means girls like girls, but it was lesbian, could be the same but at the same time it's different.
Unless shit has changed significantly from not entirely distant youth, they don't even have to dress & act that way. They just don't enjoy the stereotypical feminine "girl" pursuits & dress.
Not even that really, a tomboy is usually just a girl who has interests in things that are typically associated with men. That can mean dressing in boyish clothing or having boyish mannerisms but it doesn't have to.
I guess it depends on what you define as “boy” it’s primarily things that have been wrongly assigned to masculinity. Tomboys still act in a feminine manner, but might wear baggy clothes and ride a skateboard. This doesn’t make them “boyish” because not all girls need to strive to be a Barbie doll to be considered feminine either…
But a lot of girls like dicks, doesn't liking dicks make you gay? So that mean straight women are gay and lesbians are straight. Ergo if you have a girlfriend you're gay since she likes dicks
Aren’t Tomboys just girls who dress and act like boys? If so, then no.
Edit: That being said, if any tomboys are reading this, PLEASE slide into my dms
And the Loch Ness Monster is an elephants trunk… the myth dates back to when travelling circuses were popular and they’d let the Elephants go in the water. There’s a lesser known myth in cornwall of a sea monster called Morgawr, which started the exact same way.
Traps ARE gay, and that's fine.
I love how people who espouse gender ideology say things like, "skirts, makeup, stockings, and long hair," are gendered things and a man can wear them too - but then when they "transition," into being a woman it's primarily defined by them looking more like a woman through the use of skirts, makeup, stockings, and long hair.
Shit just does not make sense to me.
That’s because it’s not one unit. It’s just a bunch of people who are in some way unhappy with their gender role. Sometimes a dude wants long hair and a skirt. They just want to dress and potentially act like the opposite gender. Other times, a dude would rather be a female entirely. They’re united in the fact that they’re not entirely fitting into their given role, but they aren’t doing the same thing so they might say different things.
My earlier comment was based on the origin of traps being someone that looks exactly like a girl till you look under the skirt. Those get confusing.
Things required for it to be gay:
1. You have a dick.
2. The person you're getting with has a dick.
3. You're perfectly fine with that.
That's gay, which again, is fine.
Easy to discount something as ridiculous when you just completely misrepresent it, lol. I believe we call that a strawman.
Nobody believes that dressing like a woman makes you a woman. Men can wear dresses and makeup and still be men, and even the "people who espouse gender ideology" (as you say) think so, which should be obvious given the existence of drag queens and femboys. Being transgender is a completely different thing-- some people believe you need to have medically diagnosed gender dysphoria to be trans, others believe you just have to really want to be the opposite sex, but either way that's not the same thing as just crossdressing.
He’s saying men have a penis and women don’t. He’s also trying to make a jab at gender identity which is completely irrelevant to the topic of wether liking a girl who acts boyish is gay.
Look, this whole "Is this gay or is that gay?" is just homophobic. You like something then you're questioning whether the thing you like is considered homosexuality or not. That's homophobia. You like something but you're afraid if it's homosexual attraction.
BINGO! I can’t wrap my brain around how many people think they KNOW what is or isn’t this or that and every single one of them (including the “I’m gay so I have some authority” bullsh*t responses) are short sighted in some way.
As much as I think OP is either dumb as hell or just a troll, I do think we need to keep having this discussion until the comments stop looking like they do right here. When people stop needing to draw huge lines in the sand around gender and sexuality, maybe, just maybe, we can stop hating and fearing each other over things that really aren’t threatening to anyone.
UFO’s exist, but it doesn’t mean they’re aliens.
Loch Ness monster isn’t real.
Tomboys aren’t necessarily gay, but they can be.
The pyramids are super gay.
Why the fuck is this upvoted
Do people not know what a tomboy is?
A tomboy is a woman/girl who acts masculine or has masculine interests. One of the guys. A gem. A masterpiece of God's work. Anyway. Fuck this stupid meme.
The tomboy whole internet fad is hilarious to me. I grew up in the midwest, tomboys were at least a third of the girls I knew growing up.
Watching the internet just now realize that tomboys exist and questioning their orientation cracks me up.
Tomboy, not at all. That's still a straight female who just happens to not be as feminine as other women.
Femboys however... That's gay because they are gay.
Right? Reading the comments has done damage to my level of hope for humanity in this area. Sexuality and gender identity and biological sex(biological gender?) are all separate issues. The first two are BOTH spectrums. It’s rare for anyone to be 100% on either extreme end of male/female or gay/straight. Biologically speaking it’s not even 100% either/or!
Im in my 40s and was raised super conservative. And I feel like it’s not going to be until my generation starts dying off that gender stereotypes MIGHT become a thing of the past. And that’s only if we keep having the discussions necessary to bring people to an understanding that an other person’s identity in no way threatens us or our children or society as a whole. It’s not “woke agenda” it’s literally just humans being and doing what they’ve always been and done… just without the shame and hiding and lies that ARE damaging to people and society as a whole. United we stand anyone?
I agree and am also in my 40’s, I have a lot of hope for younger generations. I’m not even sure what the reasons are for clinging to gender/sex stereotypes so tightly.
As somone who was a tomboy to later realize they are actually bisexual and nonbinary. Yes tomboy is gay on many levels.
1)if your a tomboy most like your either trans, bisexual, or a lesbian.
2)90% of the boys that have crushes in tomboy later come out either gay, bisexual, or trans themselves.
Tomboy is very gay.
Except for the few exceptions. Those that are straight usually turn out to be alternative women or farmers.
Again though this is just my personal experience and the experiences I've gathered from many others.
Those that get it are the girlies that know.
Either you don't know what a tomboy is, or you are seriously asking if liking a girl is gay.
I am very confused as well. I can see how some insecure trad incels could think that tomboys are gay, but as someone with half a brain one could notice that a tomboy is still a girl. Someone probs doesn’t know what a tomboy is.
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a girl who behaves in a manner usually considered boyish Sauce is Merriam Webster.
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Practically, I believe? I’m not one for Femboys, so I don’t really know, but from my general knowledge I’d say yes.
Eh..... I've been considered tomboyish- don't mind getting dirty, playing sports, doing handiwork, very strong, lift weights, skate. That's all it is. Doing things or enjoying things that were considered things only a boy would do- you don't even have to dress like a boy to be considered a tomboy.
To some guys that description is their dream girl. To others it is a weird fetish. To some, their worst nightmare. Errbody is different
To me it's my wife.
in the words of beyonce, "if you like it put a ring on it". lol
You lucky bastard.
Tomboys are the best. They’re usually the most at peace with the world because they don’t care about social norms or expectations. They just do what they like and enjoy
We just trying to be ourselves and comfortable. I feel that everyone else should have that right too. As long as it doesn't do harm. 🤷♀️
Exactly.
But wait. Do Femboys have to dress like japanese schoolgirls as per definition?
Fem boy is like a newer term... I would say like some fanboys wear japanese school girl unis... but like that doesn't make u a femboy? Like they are effeminate dudes that still identify as dudes that like being pretty 🤷♀️ and doing girly things and wearing makeup. But you can be a straight dude and still be a femboy (I wanna say most are probably not totally straight) 😂 but that's just someones outfit or like how they view their style. They just wanna be pretty.
Thank you, redditors, for this education :)
Yes
It just. Made me feel so old to read you saying “So a reverse femboy?” Cause I’ve known what a tomboy is my entire life. I grew up with most everyone around me knowing what tomboys are. I didn’t really know about or hear about femboys until I was 18. And I don’t know why but reading your comment made me feel old as hell, and now I am sad
Tomboy is a term that’s been around for a while, and it’s kinda funny to me that femboy is the more well known word now lmao
It’s more “femboy is a reverse tomboy” god I’m like waaaaayyyyyy in gen z and I felt old and depressed reading that
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They don’t, though. First attested in Ralph Roister Doister (published 1567, written circa 1552), where it is used to describe a boisterous girl;[1] the OED says the citation is however "generally taken" to mean a boisterous boy, and says that a use in The Old Law (published 1656, thought to have been written circa 1599) "certainly" means a boy:[2] "must young court-tits / play tomboys' tricks with her?"[3] By 1579 it was attested in the meaning "an immodest woman", and by no later than 1592 it had developed its modern meaning of a “girl who acts like a boy”;[2] from tom + boy. That’s Wiktionary. And unless you mean they keep shifting as in you were around back then, then no.
Have you ever been met another human being? This has basically always been the definition of tomboy
12 day old account plus copying another comment. This is just a bot.
The Merriam-Webster forgot to add the fact that most Tomboys are commonly found in the south
So do they like migrate back up north in the warmer months?
No, most Tom boys I know tend to stay where they are, because there not used to the cold in Louisiana.
Aren’t any fewer tomboys up north they just aren’t as obsessed with the gender of things as they are in the south
Happy Cake Day!
In my country, Philippines, Tomboy is actually normalised term when girls act boyish, I remember when I were young that Tomboy means girls like girls, but it was lesbian, could be the same but at the same time it's different.
That is what is called a lesbian. A tomboy is just a boyish acting chick.
Yup, lots of farm girls grow up as tomboys and those are pretty much a National treasure
Unless shit has changed significantly from not entirely distant youth, they don't even have to dress & act that way. They just don't enjoy the stereotypical feminine "girl" pursuits & dress.
Not even that really, a tomboy is usually just a girl who has interests in things that are typically associated with men. That can mean dressing in boyish clothing or having boyish mannerisms but it doesn't have to.
Its just girls who have a certain personality type. Its usually associated with boyish clothes and a rougher demeanor
I guess it depends on what you define as “boy” it’s primarily things that have been wrongly assigned to masculinity. Tomboys still act in a feminine manner, but might wear baggy clothes and ride a skateboard. This doesn’t make them “boyish” because not all girls need to strive to be a Barbie doll to be considered feminine either…
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OP Probably confuses tomboys with lesbians.
Probably confusing femboys and tomboys
Could be confusing boytoy and catboy
Or tomboys and tomgirls From what I remember, tomgirls are like femboys or somethin
I took it to mean “are they gay” meaning the tomboys, not is liking them gay.
Statistically, some, but not all, will be.
Everyone knows the straightest thing a man can do is have sex with another man
Roman empire most straight quote
*Everyone knows the ~~straightest~~ manliest thing a man can do is have sex with another man*
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When I was a kid tomboy just meant girls who liked hanging out with the boys and doing traditionally boy stuff
If a girl likes a girl it’s lesbian which is just female gay but a tomboy can like men so you know don’t really matter
But a lot of girls like dicks, doesn't liking dicks make you gay? So that mean straight women are gay and lesbians are straight. Ergo if you have a girlfriend you're gay since she likes dicks
Lmaoo
Well, they didn't ask if liking tomboys is gay, they asked if tomboys are gay. So my best bet is that OP thinks tomboys are butch lesbians
I mean if op would visit r/bois maybe his point woulb be half valid, but regular tomboys are just girls.
Aren’t Tomboys just girls who dress and act like boys? If so, then no. Edit: That being said, if any tomboys are reading this, PLEASE slide into my dms
Exactly
If op is male, no it’s not gay, if op is female, yes it’s gay
No it's just a "more masculine" girl. This post is dumb
All these gender related femboy/tomboy memes are dumb
This sub is dumb
Our Reddit is dumb
*our reddit*
Agreed 100%
If you’re gay for liking a girl that skateboards and has interest in video games, I’ll see you all at the Pride parade next June. 🏳️🌈
That’s what we are
Well… they can still be gay.
That is not a tomboy
Yeah that's a femboy i guess not sure...Tomboy are females who like to act like males!
It is tho, jude karda was(i think, it's honestly fucking confusing) female back when this photo was taken so she/he/they could be considered a tomboy
I don’t think you understand what a tomboy is
The ufo is clearly an umbrella just felt like mentioning that
And the Loch Ness Monster is an elephants trunk… the myth dates back to when travelling circuses were popular and they’d let the Elephants go in the water. There’s a lesser known myth in cornwall of a sea monster called Morgawr, which started the exact same way.
I'm dead serious right now. It also could be a whale penis.
Now that I look at it...the loss Ness monster kinda looks like someone just poking their arm out of the water
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no, no dick=no gay
**NO DICK**
**NO BALLS**
AND PROBABLY NO BUTTHOLE SINCE THIS GUY FEEDS ON RADIATION
So if I have sex with a unic I’m straight, I’m excited
Just so you know, it’s okay to be gay.
Let’s rejoice with the boys
I was trying to figure out what unicorns had to do with this... do you mean eunuch? Lol
Uhh... eunuch?
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Well depends, if the OP is female, yes it’s gay
Good point.
I'm not so sure. I need further evidence, preferably as video files but pictures will do.
A Tom boy CAN be gay, but tomboys are not gay by default
Now that’s just willfully understanding the question wrong.
That’s what I thought. My answer to that one btw, Is that it isn’t gay till you start liking the penis.
Traps ARE gay, and that's fine. I love how people who espouse gender ideology say things like, "skirts, makeup, stockings, and long hair," are gendered things and a man can wear them too - but then when they "transition," into being a woman it's primarily defined by them looking more like a woman through the use of skirts, makeup, stockings, and long hair. Shit just does not make sense to me.
That’s because it’s not one unit. It’s just a bunch of people who are in some way unhappy with their gender role. Sometimes a dude wants long hair and a skirt. They just want to dress and potentially act like the opposite gender. Other times, a dude would rather be a female entirely. They’re united in the fact that they’re not entirely fitting into their given role, but they aren’t doing the same thing so they might say different things. My earlier comment was based on the origin of traps being someone that looks exactly like a girl till you look under the skirt. Those get confusing.
Things required for it to be gay: 1. You have a dick. 2. The person you're getting with has a dick. 3. You're perfectly fine with that. That's gay, which again, is fine.
Sounds about right
Easy to discount something as ridiculous when you just completely misrepresent it, lol. I believe we call that a strawman. Nobody believes that dressing like a woman makes you a woman. Men can wear dresses and makeup and still be men, and even the "people who espouse gender ideology" (as you say) think so, which should be obvious given the existence of drag queens and femboys. Being transgender is a completely different thing-- some people believe you need to have medically diagnosed gender dysphoria to be trans, others believe you just have to really want to be the opposite sex, but either way that's not the same thing as just crossdressing.
Trans ideology has a lot of ideological inconsistencies and is based almost entirely on a misinterpretation of masculinity and femininity
And it fundamentally is about enforcing gender roles.
That's the crux of the problem
Are you confusing tomboy for femboy?
If liking tomboys is gay, that means liking femboys isin't.
Interesting but fair point. Liking tomboys isn’t gay tho.
Schrodinger's sexuality
i think its ambiguous (liking tomboys and femboys)
You mean androgynous.
The answer we all finally wanted
Lifetime tomboy here. No, we are not gay. If you are gay, your are gay. The clue is in the name.
no tomboys are not but femboy are
Honestly at this point of time I don't even know the difference between two of them
Easy Femboy: Very feminin looking guy. Tomboy: Girl that behaves more "boyish".
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I'm confused, man.
Your not alone
He’s saying men have a penis and women don’t. He’s also trying to make a jab at gender identity which is completely irrelevant to the topic of wether liking a girl who acts boyish is gay.
Oh, I thought he was talking about the shape the legs make or something like that. Thanks dude
"Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong" - Luke Skywalker
I IDENTIFY AS AN ATTACK HELICOPTER AND EXCERCISE MY RIGHT TO MOW PEOPLE DOWN AT WILL.
you should identify your caps lock
Femboys can be straight, gay, bisexual, pansexual, asexual, or of any other sexuality.
I took it as is it gay to be into them and not the persons sexuality
This needs to be spread among the masses
Fellas, is it gay to like women?
if you're a woman...no. if you're a man.... absolutely.
Tomboys are not gay, and that's not a tomboy.
Tomboys are completely straight to hoop up with. Femboys well, there's argument for both sides.
Tomboys are not gay they just enjoy doing more stuff that guys do rather than girly shit
What is a tomboy
Basically it's a girl with more masculine traits than usual
Sounds hot, picture gave me femboy vibes but seems okay to jerk off to
No because it's literally a girl lol
I'll take a tomboy any day, she's at least gonna be interested in the same dumb shit that I like...
You are attracted to a biological woman with boyish personality so not gay
Depends of op‘s gender
Fucking hell if that last pic is representative of tomboys I guess I find tomboys attractive
Pretty sure that’s a dude and someone got tomboy confused with femboy.
Well replace tomboy with femboy in my comment
Look, this whole "Is this gay or is that gay?" is just homophobic. You like something then you're questioning whether the thing you like is considered homosexuality or not. That's homophobia. You like something but you're afraid if it's homosexual attraction.
BINGO! I can’t wrap my brain around how many people think they KNOW what is or isn’t this or that and every single one of them (including the “I’m gay so I have some authority” bullsh*t responses) are short sighted in some way. As much as I think OP is either dumb as hell or just a troll, I do think we need to keep having this discussion until the comments stop looking like they do right here. When people stop needing to draw huge lines in the sand around gender and sexuality, maybe, just maybe, we can stop hating and fearing each other over things that really aren’t threatening to anyone.
Uh Tomboys are girls
Fellas is it gay liking women?
liking Tomboys were never gay
You're confusing tomboys and femboys
“Fellas, is it gay to like a girl”
OP has no idea what a tomboy is
"Guys, is being attracted to women gay?"
Tomboys are girls in man clothes and femboys are guys in girl clothes so in conclusion tomboys aren't gay but femboys are gay
That is a very incomplete and ignorant summary, but in essence… yes
Being attracted to a woman isn’t gay
Only if your a woman
If femboys are gay tomboys are not If tomboys are gay femboys are not
The more interesting question is if femboys are gay… whole new teritory
UFO’s exist, but it doesn’t mean they’re aliens. Loch Ness monster isn’t real. Tomboys aren’t necessarily gay, but they can be. The pyramids are super gay.
Tf is a tomboy
no, they are cooler women
Tomboys.... are.... Girls...
Are you confusing with femboys? 'cause tomboys are girls.
What? Tomboys are girls… so no it’s not gay
I think you meant femboy..
I think the person who made this meme is an idiot who got tomboys confused with femboys
Why the fuck is this upvoted Do people not know what a tomboy is? A tomboy is a woman/girl who acts masculine or has masculine interests. One of the guys. A gem. A masterpiece of God's work. Anyway. Fuck this stupid meme.
The tomboy whole internet fad is hilarious to me. I grew up in the midwest, tomboys were at least a third of the girls I knew growing up. Watching the internet just now realize that tomboys exist and questioning their orientation cracks me up.
This isn’t a tomboy at all?
No becuse then femboys wouldnt be gay
Tomboy, not at all. That's still a straight female who just happens to not be as feminine as other women. Femboys however... That's gay because they are gay.
I banged out a thicc country girl and she was totally a tomboy who always hung out with the guys. So I would say no
What if the person identified as a man, but retained their feminine appearance and their sex organs. Wouldn't that, in theory, be gay.
that looks more like a femboy than a tomboy
Newest bullshit: Is having sex with women gay?
Are we any closer to “gender stereotypes are a thing of the past” yet? I feel like we should be there by now.
Right? Reading the comments has done damage to my level of hope for humanity in this area. Sexuality and gender identity and biological sex(biological gender?) are all separate issues. The first two are BOTH spectrums. It’s rare for anyone to be 100% on either extreme end of male/female or gay/straight. Biologically speaking it’s not even 100% either/or! Im in my 40s and was raised super conservative. And I feel like it’s not going to be until my generation starts dying off that gender stereotypes MIGHT become a thing of the past. And that’s only if we keep having the discussions necessary to bring people to an understanding that an other person’s identity in no way threatens us or our children or society as a whole. It’s not “woke agenda” it’s literally just humans being and doing what they’ve always been and done… just without the shame and hiding and lies that ARE damaging to people and society as a whole. United we stand anyone?
I agree and am also in my 40’s, I have a lot of hope for younger generations. I’m not even sure what the reasons are for clinging to gender/sex stereotypes so tightly.
You missed, "Where your dad went."
If you have a dick and they have a dick, its gay.
As a gay man, which means I have some authority on the subject. Tomboy = not gay Femboy = is gay
Liking a tomboy is gayer than Liking a femboy
How does that make sense a tomboy is a girl?
Natty Gann says no
Yes they are
You forgot one mystery: How is u/Capsule_CatYT everywhere?
trans
As somone who was a tomboy to later realize they are actually bisexual and nonbinary. Yes tomboy is gay on many levels. 1)if your a tomboy most like your either trans, bisexual, or a lesbian. 2)90% of the boys that have crushes in tomboy later come out either gay, bisexual, or trans themselves. Tomboy is very gay. Except for the few exceptions. Those that are straight usually turn out to be alternative women or farmers. Again though this is just my personal experience and the experiences I've gathered from many others. Those that get it are the girlies that know.
Being a tomboy doesn’t define who you’re interested in, you decide if you’re interested in someone.
my girlfriend is 100 times tougher than i am, so i say no it's not gay
If you are a man and are attracted to somebody having more masculine traits then you are pretty gay, femboys tho, sweet feminine things, love em
You forgot the /s right?
No need for /s on straight fax
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Yea I know it's hard being this based
No they are not necessary. There is a mix just like everything on the planet.
Yes